pat_k
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Fri Feb-08-08 02:13 AM
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| 24. Impeachment is "Smart" for America. . . and Democrats (here's why) |
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Edited on Fri Feb-08-08 02:38 AM by pat_k
From the PDF flyer Talking Impeachment is a Foreign Land (the DC beltway). . . Impeachment is Best for Democrats:- The party’s historical "weakness" is what got us into this mess.
It pervades the electorate’s view on all other issues. A display of resolve now could erase decades of damage. - Impeachment forces a comprehensive "up or down vote."
It can force Republicans to go on record defending the worst of the recent past with the maximum public attention. - The polls show independents’ support for impeachment
to be high. Now is the time to lock in that swing vote for the foreseeable future.
. . . Members of Congress have a moral obligation to impeach. That is, and always will be, the bottom line. But they have been so hung up on their baseless belief that impeachment is "certain" political suicide that they have been deaf to the moral case. The truth is that impeachment shouldn't actually require much "courage." Impeaching is not just the right thing to do, impeaching Bush and Cheney for torture is a BIG WINNER It's not just about telling Conyers why impeachment is the Best and Smartest political move he can make. We need to combat the fears too. If Conyers is really "on the edge;" if he is actually looking for reasons that impeachment is Smart, then the points in the Talking Impeachment flyer should help you "close the deal." (Print the flyer double-sided and fold to make yourself and your fellow impeachment lobbyists a handy quick reference.) For tips on getting "buy-in" on basic principles, eliciting their rationalizations for inaction, and challenging them in a way that leaves no logical out, check out: Talking Impeachment as a Citizen Lobbyist A PDF guide that describes how you can request, schedule, prepare for, conduct, and follow-up a meeting with a Member of Congress or staffer to maximize your effectiveness.
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Conyers Says He's on Edge of Starting Impeachment |
davidswanson |
Feb-07-08 11:36 PM |
#0 |

Oh, oh. He'll be at odd with his candidate, Obama. |
jasmine621 |
Feb-07-08 11:39 PM |
#1 |
 
Jasmine, that's bunk |
jkshaw |
Feb-07-08 11:40 PM |
#3 |
  
Not bunk. He said it. |
BleedingHeartPatriot |
Feb-08-08 12:04 AM |
#6 |
   
Obama says Bush administration has "SHORTCOMINGS" . . . !!! !!!! |
defendandprotect |
Feb-08-08 12:20 AM |
#8 |
  
"...impeachment should not be used as a standard political tool." |
DCKit |
Feb-08-08 01:30 AM |
#21 |
   
AMEN! |
Journalgrrl |
Feb-08-08 05:41 PM |
#82 |
   
It *won't* be used by the standard political tools, says Pelosi. n/t |
Orsino |
Feb-08-08 07:25 PM |
#100 |
  
Vote the bums out? Doesn't Mr. Obama remember how hard we've tried... |
puebloknot |
Feb-08-08 06:04 AM |
#30 |
  
..impeachment should not be used as a standard political tool.. |
Pirate looks at 50 |
Feb-08-08 12:55 PM |
#58 |
  
Get Real. Obama said it himself: * & Cheney haven't done anything "grave" enough to Impeach. |
TheGoldenRule |
Feb-08-08 02:00 AM |
#23 |
   
Neither Obama or Hillary will hold these thugs accountable. |
alyce douglas |
Feb-08-08 08:53 AM |
#44 |
  
Well, read what he said for yourself. |
jasmine621 |
Feb-08-08 08:37 AM |
#43 |
 
They don't care just so long as Barack "I'm in this for myself" Obama is the nominee. |
Blue State Native |
Feb-08-08 02:10 PM |
#72 |
 
The lesser of two Evils is the only choice we have now that DK & JE have dropped out of the race |
sce56 |
Feb-08-08 09:13 PM |
#116 |
 
Delete. |
sfexpat2000 |
Feb-08-08 12:23 AM |
#11 |
 
Impeachment of Bush and Cheney would be used as a Law Enorcement tool. |
Wizard777 |
Feb-08-08 10:13 AM |
#47 |
  
!!! Ding Ding!! We got a winner! |
Patchuli |
Feb-08-08 10:49 PM |
#125 |
 
So what does Hillary say about impeachment? |
Lance_Boyle |
Feb-08-08 11:38 AM |
#55 |
 
Hasn't Conyers been on edge for a couple of years now?...seriously, what's the rush. |
alllyingwhores |
Feb-08-08 06:07 PM |
#87 |

I have called, written, supported and advocated petitions |
Ichingcarpenter |
Feb-07-08 11:40 PM |
#2 |

Oh well, take your freaking time John |
shadowknows69 |
Feb-07-08 11:45 PM |
#4 |
 
He's Such a Tease! |
Demeter |
Feb-08-08 12:40 AM |
#14 |
 
Exactly. I'll believe it when I see it. n/t |
Zookeeper |
Feb-08-08 04:40 PM |
#81 |

Weapons of Mass Impeachment... |
jberryhill |
Feb-08-08 12:02 AM |
#5 |
 
By GAWD, you *nailed* it! |
Ghost in the Machine |
Feb-08-08 12:13 AM |
#7 |
  
A worthy DUzy for sure. |
Ichingcarpenter |
Feb-08-08 12:22 AM |
#10 |
 
You. Nail. Head. |
dicksteele |
Feb-08-08 05:04 AM |
#28 |
 
DUZY Nomination! |
Donnachaidh |
Feb-08-08 08:30 AM |
#42 |
 
BINGO! |
pberq |
Feb-08-08 10:37 AM |
#48 |
 
and "btw ....help yourself to the beer and nuts." |
KoKo01 |
Feb-08-08 02:46 PM |
#73 |
 
I don't know whether to |
AikidoSoul |
Feb-08-08 08:16 PM |
#109 |

Mr. Conyers knows we cannot impeach at the polls. |
sfexpat2000 |
Feb-08-08 12:20 AM |
#9 |

The edge of what? The table? Nancy'll just shove his ass off it again. |
TahitiNut |
Feb-08-08 12:32 AM |
#12 |
 
Democrats in this district are looking for someone to challenge her. |
sfexpat2000 |
Feb-08-08 12:36 AM |
#13 |
 
now that is the best thing i have read all day:) |
lala_rawraw |
Feb-08-08 11:32 AM |
#51 |

The "corporate power structure", he said, would not allow impeachment without unleashing "blowback." |
nashville_brook |
Feb-08-08 12:48 AM |
#15 |
 
Yes! What does he mean by blowback? |
puebloknot |
Feb-08-08 06:16 AM |
#33 |

Blowback, like anthrax? |
RuleOfNah |
Feb-08-08 11:33 AM |
#52 |

Blowback, like martial law, closing of borders, "detention centers"... |
puebloknot |
Feb-08-08 06:09 PM |
#89 |

Well Jesus John do it today! |
peace13 |
Feb-08-08 01:15 AM |
#16 |

Coward & liar |
KakistocracyHater |
Feb-08-08 01:18 AM |
#17 |

Uh-huh, sure. |
Marr |
Feb-08-08 01:23 AM |
#18 |

Letting Darth Vader overtly run the Country is a bad idea. - n/t |
BrightKnight |
Feb-08-08 01:25 AM |
#19 |
 
The people in our government should be held accountable. |
peace13 |
Feb-08-08 01:42 AM |
#22 |
 
Pretending he doesn't do exactly that and hasn't since 2000 |
tavalon |
Feb-08-08 06:04 PM |
#85 |

Conyers is full of shit. |
trashcanistanista |
Feb-08-08 01:28 AM |
#20 |

Impeachment is "Smart" for America. . . and Democrats (here's why) |
pat_k |
Feb-08-08 02:13 AM |
#24 |
 
Forget that! Just send another nasty letter! n/t |
dmosh42 |
Feb-08-08 04:59 AM |
#27 |
 
If any national leader had the guts to stand up for justice... |
puebloknot |
Feb-08-08 06:11 AM |
#32 |

Corporate mafia: no one wants to upset their apple cart |
Echo In Light |
Feb-08-08 07:43 AM |
#39 |

If they try, they'll very possibly be "Wellstoned" -- a euphemism... |
puebloknot |
Feb-08-08 06:03 PM |
#84 |

As I see it, not on the edge of impeachment |
Tresalisa |
Feb-08-08 02:18 AM |
#25 |

If he hasn't seen enough to push him over that edge by now, |
Riddler |
Feb-08-08 02:25 AM |
#26 |

The corporate power structure? |
malaise |
Feb-08-08 05:28 AM |
#29 |
 
Translation: greedhead anti-American republicon cronies |
SpiralHawk |
Feb-08-08 06:08 AM |
#31 |
  
"That's how our system is designed." |
Disturbed |
Feb-08-08 06:19 AM |
#35 |
 
Well, he is one of the few to mention the elephant in the room |
tavalon |
Feb-08-08 06:08 PM |
#88 |

kick that! |
BelgianMadCow |
Feb-08-08 07:39 PM |
#105 |

I Would Think That Anyone "Corporate" Seeking To Defend War Criminals... |
Senator |
Feb-08-08 06:18 AM |
#34 |

Well David, Mr, Conyers has certainly pulled us all around into circles. |
mmonk |
Feb-08-08 06:43 AM |
#36 |

let me know if he crosses the edge |
radfringe |
Feb-08-08 06:47 AM |
#37 |

Whatever. I'll believe it when someone actually does something. -n/t |
porphyrian |
Feb-08-08 06:55 AM |
#38 |

Yawn . . . no excitement here. Not a chance in hell. nt |
Vinca |
Feb-08-08 08:05 AM |
#40 |

Jeeze, Conyers. What took you so long? |
Stoic |
Feb-08-08 08:09 AM |
#41 |
 
It is neither from where I'm sitting, |
tavalon |
Feb-08-08 06:10 PM |
#90 |

Conyers must start impeachment now! |
whistle |
Feb-08-08 10:01 AM |
#45 |

YES, folks it is a two-year plan, and year two has begun. |
L. Coyote |
Feb-08-08 10:06 AM |
#46 |

Where he will remain carefully balanced until January. |
Warren Stupidity |
Feb-08-08 11:16 AM |
#49 |

on the edge? |
lala_rawraw |
Feb-08-08 11:32 AM |
#50 |
 
No, he isn't kidding you, lala, |
tavalon |
Feb-08-08 06:13 PM |
#91 |

i have no clue |
lala_rawraw |
Feb-08-08 09:44 PM |
#118 |

his voice roars with the strength of a......kitten |
emald |
Feb-08-08 11:35 AM |
#53 |

I Would Love To Be Wrong About This |
NikolaC |
Feb-08-08 11:37 AM |
#54 |
 
I don't know, but I do know it is making me sick! |
lonestarnot |
Feb-08-08 12:40 PM |
#57 |

This is why they won't impeach? |
Cleita |
Feb-08-08 12:34 PM |
#56 |

Once again....I'll believe it when I see it. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Feb-08-08 01:03 PM |
#59 |

Maybe he is waiting until after the Hearing on Voter Suppression (w Blackwell) |
mod mom |
Feb-08-08 01:05 PM |
#60 |

Conyers, I love you, but shit or get off the pot |
dmesg |
Feb-08-08 01:11 PM |
#61 |

They are going to huff, and they are going to puff, but -- |
The Stranger |
Feb-08-08 01:12 PM |
#62 |

K and R |
femrap |
Feb-08-08 01:12 PM |
#63 |

Pull the trigger or STFU, John |
Lilith Velkor |
Feb-08-08 01:16 PM |
#64 |
 
no shit |
2008 |
Feb-08-08 01:49 PM |
#69 |

Hasn't he been saying this for years? |
jlake |
Feb-08-08 01:20 PM |
#65 |

The dog and pony show continues. |
notsodumbhillbilly |
Feb-08-08 01:20 PM |
#66 |

Last month I spoke with Betty Sutton, |
femrap |
Feb-08-08 01:25 PM |
#67 |

Oh for fucking christ sakes, someone kick him in his |
Javaman |
Feb-08-08 01:26 PM |
#68 |

Sadly, he's talking about Nixon. |
jgraz |
Feb-08-08 02:02 PM |
#70 |

The price of peace is victory over those who don't want it. -Joe S. |
Peake |
Feb-08-08 02:03 PM |
#71 |

Wow! |
Time for change |
Feb-08-08 03:29 PM |
#74 |
 
I feel there is. |
Independent_Liberal |
Feb-08-08 03:45 PM |
#76 |

There's another problem I see. |
tblue37 |
Feb-08-08 03:34 PM |
#75 |

Kick |
Ichingcarpenter |
Feb-08-08 03:51 PM |
#77 |

Conyers: 3 More Congress Members and I'll Impeach |
Freddie Stubbs |
Feb-08-08 04:14 PM |
#78 |

Kick for the DUer that wrote this |
Ichingcarpenter |
Feb-08-08 04:18 PM |
#79 |

Just one word : |
ForeignSpectator |
Feb-08-08 04:30 PM |
#80 |
 
No shit. I'm not holding my breath. They should have done this years ago. |
Beam Me Up |
Feb-08-08 05:56 PM |
#83 |

If, indeed, Conyers is on the edge of the impeachment cliff... |
rateyes |
Feb-08-08 06:06 PM |
#86 |

Push him! |
Radical Activist |
Feb-08-08 06:15 PM |
#92 |

How many times have we been here? |
Phred42 |
Feb-08-08 06:16 PM |
#93 |
 
Where would we be if the Founding Fathers were AFRAID of Blowback? |
Phred42 |
Feb-08-08 07:21 PM |
#98 |

The "corporate power structure", he said, would not allow impeachment without unleashing "blowback." |
Psyop Samurai |
Feb-08-08 06:26 PM |
#94 |
 
Did Conyers actually say "corporate power structure" and "blowback"? |
RuleOfNah |
Feb-08-08 08:29 PM |
#112 |

Impeach Cheney first---do it for Haliburton's illegal no bid contracts. |
McCamy Taylor |
Feb-08-08 06:26 PM |
#95 |
 
I'm with you baby N/T |
AikidoSoul |
Feb-08-08 08:28 PM |
#111 |

Not Fooled.He has no intention of making admin. accountable. Just appeasing the public. |
bjobotts |
Feb-08-08 07:13 PM |
#96 |
 
He's like Lucy in the Peanuts comic strip, |
notsodumbhillbilly |
Feb-08-08 07:26 PM |
#102 |

ON the edge? What does it take with these people? Anything he's done up to now |
AllyCat |
Feb-08-08 07:14 PM |
#97 |

"A time comes when silence is betrayal" - Martin Luther King |
Phred42 |
Feb-08-08 07:22 PM |
#99 |

REC 60 Looking forward to more evidence becoming public soon. |
L. Coyote |
Feb-08-08 07:26 PM |
#101 |

what edge? |
spanone |
Feb-08-08 07:27 PM |
#103 |

No More Talking... Just Do It! |
fascisthunter |
Feb-08-08 07:29 PM |
#104 |

Is Conyers' up for re-election in 2008? If so, then look for the answer no more. COWARD. |
NoodleyAppendage |
Feb-08-08 07:40 PM |
#106 |
 
like all congress members |
davidswanson |
Feb-08-08 07:49 PM |
#107 |

Nice Aristophanes reference...doesn't happen much around DU. n/t |
NoodleyAppendage |
Feb-08-08 10:07 PM |
#122 |

He really, really, really, means it this time. |
jmauller |
Feb-08-08 08:04 PM |
#108 |

It's about time! |
nightrain |
Feb-08-08 08:25 PM |
#110 |

It sounds to me like |
disndat |
Feb-08-08 08:30 PM |
#113 |
 
That actually sounds like a smart thing to do... |
varelse |
Feb-08-08 08:51 PM |
#114 |

Oh for god's sake. |
bushwentawol |
Feb-08-08 09:09 PM |
#115 |

And I say I'm on the edge of giving a shit WHAT this cowardly Dem-controlled Congress says... |
DRoseDARs |
Feb-08-08 09:34 PM |
#117 |

Call us when you "get to the rim"..... |
Postman |
Feb-08-08 09:49 PM |
#119 |

the "corporate power structure" just about says it all.... |
mike_c |
Feb-08-08 09:51 PM |
#120 |

Timing is everything |
California Griz |
Feb-08-08 10:03 PM |
#121 |

New flash...I'm on the edge of staring to date Michelle Pfeiffer. |
Snarkoleptic |
Feb-08-08 10:28 PM |
#123 |
 
I'm with you snark. |
Deny and Shred |
Feb-08-08 10:42 PM |
#124 |

Some public contact phone numbers-John Conyers direct DC office lines |
bobthedrummer |
Feb-08-08 11:32 PM |
#126 |

No he won't - he's a fucking LIAR... |
TankLV |
Feb-08-08 11:51 PM |
#127 |

Re: "So how would it look if I allowed two women |
anotheryellowdog |
Feb-09-08 12:44 AM |
#128 |