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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:01 PM
Response to Reply #24
29. That's because our police departments are undermanned and
underfunded. Also, they aren't getting the best applicants anymore because of the danger and lack of incentives to do a dangerous job. It isn't worth the while of candidates who could be good police officers. Instead police departments are attracting people who sometimes are no better than the criminals. It's just that they are paid to be thugs by the taxpayer.
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  -This is not a gun thread but a social thread question. Dawggie  Feb-04-08 01:23 PM   #0 
  - I think you are overthinking the question  dmallind   Feb-04-08 01:54 PM   #1 
  - We're paranoid and competitive  supernova   Feb-04-08 02:03 PM   #2 
  - You are on your own when it comes to self-defense. Unless of course,  bluestdogest   Feb-04-08 03:05 PM   #4 
     - We have body guards. They are known as the police department.  Cleita   Feb-04-08 03:38 PM   #8 
     - Sorry, but that is utter nonsense. Police do not and can not prevent crime.  karlrschneider   Feb-04-08 03:46 PM   #12 
     - Hey Karl.  Cleita   Feb-04-08 03:56 PM   #23 
     - Not true  ismnotwasm   Feb-04-08 06:59 PM   #45 
        - So the overgrown field is gone and thus a possible venue for crime, great.  karlrschneider   Feb-04-08 08:19 PM   #47 
     - Maybe if you're the mayor ...  JustABozoOnThisBus   Feb-04-08 03:56 PM   #24 
        - That's because our police departments are undermanned and  Cleita   Feb-04-08 04:01 PM   #29 
     - I haven't owned a gun since I outgrew duck hunting when I was 18...  Dawggie   Feb-04-08 03:46 PM   #11 
        - Yes, well those who were NOT able to get out of a "situation" aren't around to post...  karlrschneider   Feb-04-08 03:47 PM   #13 
           - Oh, give me a break, Karl. You know that's a silly argument.  Dawggie   Feb-04-08 03:56 PM   #22 
              - No, gunmen today are far worse.  spoony   Feb-04-08 04:04 PM   #33 
              - Damn, I know what you mean. I was in this card game last week...  Dawggie   Feb-04-08 04:06 PM   #35 
                 - Ask those dead in the mall if they found that funny.  spoony   Feb-05-08 01:56 PM   #49 
              - Well then, there's no reason to worry about guns at all, I guess.  karlrschneider   Feb-04-08 06:39 PM   #41 
  - Guns don't cause violence, but violence causes guns.  spin   Feb-04-08 02:59 PM   #3 
  - ...  Bornaginhooligan   Feb-04-08 03:05 PM   #5 
  - IF it was more likely to (be used to) shoot a family member, having a gun would indeed be irrational  jmg257   Feb-04-08 03:30 PM   #7 
  - "that is not the case"  Bornaginhooligan   Feb-04-08 03:46 PM   #10 
  - Body Count Fallacy  slackmaster   Feb-04-08 03:49 PM   #15 
  - Sure.  Bornaginhooligan   Feb-04-08 03:50 PM   #16 
     - Accidents: 789 (all ages); Suicide (17,000); Murders: 10,000... 2005/6 stats  jmg257   Feb-04-08 04:00 PM   #27 
        - 1.3, 4.6, 37  Bornaginhooligan   Feb-04-08 04:03 PM   #32 
  - Way too many defensive gun uses; number used in "shooting of family members" pales in comparison. n  jmg257   Feb-04-08 03:55 PM   #20 
     - Sorry, no.  Bornaginhooligan   Feb-04-08 03:58 PM   #25 
        - Read the stats - FBI, WISQARS, DOJ, etc. truth is out there - check it out! nt  jmg257   Feb-04-08 04:00 PM   #28 
        - Some stats for you - this is kind of old and may not display properly  slackmaster   Feb-04-08 04:01 PM   #30 
  - I think that published data might disagree with you there.  Dawggie   Feb-04-08 03:48 PM   #14 
  - A lot depends on where you live.  spin   Feb-05-08 12:13 AM   #48 
  - i dunno if thats nessarily true  iamthebandfanman   Feb-04-08 03:08 PM   #6 
  - The argument is not really for more guns, rather an elimination of unenforced fake gun-free zones  slackmaster   Feb-04-08 03:40 PM   #9 
  - You're a bright guy, SM... If those guys were armed with knives do you feel that the death toll  Dawggie   Feb-04-08 03:52 PM   #18 
     - If you can figure out a way to disarm just the bad guys, please post it  slackmaster   Feb-04-08 03:55 PM   #21 
        - Can't you admit that if handguns were harder for people to acquire that there would most likely  Dawggie   Feb-04-08 04:01 PM   #31 
           - Sure, but if the overall death rate doesn't decline because criminals use other weapons  slackmaster   Feb-04-08 04:05 PM   #34 
           - I'll respectfully disagree with you there. Look at the recent school shootings.  Dawggie   Feb-04-08 04:11 PM   #36 
              - You're indulging in some cherry-picking of information  slackmaster   Feb-04-08 04:14 PM   #37 
           - If he has looked at the evidence, he won't admit to that fallacy.  I work for workers   Feb-04-08 06:54 PM   #43 
  - See: the George W Bush administration response to 9/11. 99.9% of the population won't kill me.  blondeatlast   Feb-04-08 03:50 PM   #17 
  - Does that mean something in English?  karlrschneider   Feb-04-08 03:54 PM   #19 
     - Yes. nt  blondeatlast   Feb-04-08 03:59 PM   #26 
  - We have a Draconian police system that avoides real criminals  TheFriendlyAnarchist   Feb-04-08 04:15 PM   #38 
  - This IS a gun thread.  Swamp Rat   Feb-04-08 04:21 PM   #39 
  - Yeah, it turned out that way and a big part of it is my fault.  Dawggie   Feb-04-08 05:29 PM   #40 
  - Hillary will fix this problem also...give people hope, and this kind of stuff will end.  ileus   Feb-04-08 06:51 PM   #42 
  - Hillary better hope Heller beats DC, lest her "national database"  I work for workers   Feb-04-08 06:55 PM   #44 
  - Why do such threads turn into gun threads?  I work for workers   Feb-04-08 07:00 PM   #46 
 

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