| 35. Wow. that'll stop legislation! |
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NC will probably be the last state to pass anything.
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nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 01:18 PM |
#0 |
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wtmusic |
Feb-04-08 01:24 PM |
#1 |
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k r |
higher class |
Feb-04-08 01:24 PM |
#2 |
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thanks for this post! |
light catcher |
Feb-04-08 01:31 PM |
#3 |
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I smoke additive-free American Spirits. Hope that helps. |
High Plains |
Feb-04-08 01:31 PM |
#4 |
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Me too! |
iris5426 |
Feb-04-08 01:45 PM |
#12 |
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As do I |
Oeditpus Rex |
Feb-04-08 01:53 PM |
#17 |
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Darn. Though you wrote "addictive free". |
elehhhhna |
Feb-04-08 03:11 PM |
#56 |
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Question |
teacher gal |
Feb-05-08 02:07 AM |
#187 |
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As I look at my life, I think cigarettes have diminished my living. At a certain |
higher class |
Feb-04-08 01:31 PM |
#5 |
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A question... |
americanstranger |
Feb-04-08 01:31 PM |
#6 |
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In the part of NC |
citizen_jane |
Feb-04-08 01:44 PM |
#11 |
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That, I can understand. |
americanstranger |
Feb-04-08 01:47 PM |
#15 |
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Oh it is strong for sure! |
citizen_jane |
Feb-04-08 02:30 PM |
#32 |
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Wow. that'll stop legislation! |
americanstranger |
Feb-04-08 02:32 PM |
#35 |
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I agree. |
citizen_jane |
Feb-04-08 02:36 PM |
#37 |
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I think it'll be... |
Satbod Elder |
Feb-04-08 04:55 PM |
#89 |
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Nope - it'll be SOUTH Carolina |
aphopkin |
Feb-04-08 03:44 PM |
#62 |
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Anyone? |
americanstranger |
Feb-04-08 01:45 PM |
#13 |
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Lots. Map and Venn Diagram, plus Schedule here... |
mcscajun |
Feb-04-08 01:51 PM |
#16 |
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Thanks for that! |
americanstranger |
Feb-04-08 01:56 PM |
#19 |
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I think |
Imagine In Texas |
Feb-04-08 01:59 PM |
#23 |
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Check out the heartland... |
High Plains |
Feb-04-08 02:53 PM |
#46 |
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Except for Philly smoking is still allowed in Pennsylvania |
RamboLiberal |
Feb-04-08 03:36 PM |
#60 |
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I want you to be highly taxed....Gee thanks O Progressive one.... |
catnhatnh |
Feb-04-08 01:35 PM |
#7 |
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And use the taxes to pay for problems associated with the drug. |
uppityperson |
Feb-04-08 01:41 PM |
#9 |
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Taxes will PAY for your healthcare and any associated healthcare |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 03:04 PM |
#52 |
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Fine, but why should my cig taxes fund the general fund? |
High Plains |
Feb-04-08 03:50 PM |
#66 |
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That is a whole different matter, but to SCHIP |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 04:23 PM |
#79 |
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Now that statement is a crock |
Mojorabbit |
Feb-05-08 01:17 AM |
#181 |
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Amazing, so you are telling that second hand smoke |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-08 01:43 AM |
#185 |
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No I am not saying that and I think you know it |
Mojorabbit |
Feb-05-08 02:07 AM |
#186 |
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In an ideal world, try to get that through republcians |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-08 10:26 AM |
#191 |
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The question is why you so readily pick regressive taxes..... |
catnhatnh |
Feb-04-08 06:15 PM |
#101 |
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Ye are talking of policy |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 08:53 PM |
#123 |
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Well, currently tobacco is 'highly' taxed. Much higher rates than alcohol. Now I have a question |
sinkingfeeling |
Feb-04-08 01:38 PM |
#8 |
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You will never get a an intelligent response to that question |
bamalib |
Feb-04-08 02:49 PM |
#41 |
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Because of your hired help and the effects of second hand smoke |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 03:04 PM |
#53 |
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Why? I would advise those applying for the jobs that it was a smoking establishment and since about |
sinkingfeeling |
Feb-04-08 03:46 PM |
#64 |
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I gave you the health reason |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 04:12 PM |
#75 |
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Sure those "public health studies" which are financed by agenda driven groups |
bamalib |
Feb-04-08 06:52 PM |
#108 |
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I did not know that those studies done by the Frammingham Institute |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 08:40 PM |
#115 |
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You're welcome |
bamalib |
Feb-05-08 05:06 PM |
#195 |
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My name is JQC and I'm a nicotine addict... |
John Q. Citizen |
Feb-04-08 01:44 PM |
#10 |
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one quibble |
northzax |
Feb-04-08 02:28 PM |
#31 |
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PA is a long way from MI |
vanboggie |
Feb-04-08 03:53 PM |
#68 |
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come on, at a thousand bucks a day |
northzax |
Feb-04-08 04:05 PM |
#73 |
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I KNOW it is not easy to quit |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 04:25 PM |
#80 |
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Makes way too much sense |
vanboggie |
Feb-04-08 04:55 PM |
#90 |
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Note to nadin |
ixion |
Feb-04-08 01:46 PM |
#14 |
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Note to you... your second hand smoke |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 03:06 PM |
#54 |
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It won't if you don't fucking GO IN THERE |
karlrschneider |
Feb-04-08 03:59 PM |
#70 |
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Tell me oh wise one how do I avoid the second hand smoke |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 04:30 PM |
#82 |
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Your apartment? |
proud2Blib |
Feb-04-08 05:05 PM |
#94 |
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Right... |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 06:42 PM |
#103 |
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Move |
karlrschneider |
Feb-04-08 06:16 PM |
#102 |
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Expected |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 06:43 PM |
#104 |
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Did you notice how he has no problem telling others where they can/can't smoke |
kgfnally |
Feb-04-08 08:48 PM |
#118 |
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We have |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 08:49 PM |
#119 |
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Why, yes, I do have another question. Even though my post WASN'T directed at you. |
kgfnally |
Feb-04-08 08:53 PM |
#122 |
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Sorry if you feel it is a screed |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 08:55 PM |
#124 |
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It's not that I feel it's a screed |
kgfnally |
Feb-04-08 09:02 PM |
#128 |
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Ok so going to a hospital is preaching? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 09:19 PM |
#130 |
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How did we get from |
kgfnally |
Feb-04-08 09:21 PM |
#131 |
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Cigarette smoke does that to more than just me |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 09:57 PM |
#135 |
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Not for nothing, but he has a valid point. |
americanstranger |
Feb-04-08 09:25 PM |
#132 |
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Look we told him, he gets out, or rather I take him out |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 09:56 PM |
#134 |
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That is a rough situation. |
americanstranger |
Feb-04-08 10:26 PM |
#141 |
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Well debating whether to go to the doc, and get a second course of steroids |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 10:41 PM |
#145 |
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I've been told I live in a "police state" (California) because smokers have to go outside to smoke. |
impeachdubya |
Feb-04-08 01:56 PM |
#18 |
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I'm a smoker, and I have no problem with it. |
americanstranger |
Feb-04-08 01:59 PM |
#24 |
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I'm with you, there. I would make exceptions for playgrounds where a bunch of 3 yr olds are playing |
impeachdubya |
Feb-04-08 02:03 PM |
#25 |
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I don't smoke around kids anyway. |
americanstranger |
Feb-04-08 02:05 PM |
#26 |
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No doubt. I think probably 90-95% of smokers get it. |
impeachdubya |
Feb-04-08 02:26 PM |
#30 |
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Thanks for recognizing that. |
americanstranger |
Feb-04-08 02:30 PM |
#34 |
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Thanks, my nephews thank you |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 04:31 PM |
#83 |
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Cigarette smokers have fewer restrictions placed on us... |
LanternWaste |
Feb-04-08 02:44 PM |
#40 |
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when I was growing up I used to see people smoking in grocery |
roguevalley |
Feb-04-08 02:56 PM |
#49 |
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I remember those days, |
StarryNite |
Feb-04-08 03:56 PM |
#69 |
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I grew up in the midwest, riding around in smoke-filled cars where any request to roll the window |
impeachdubya |
Feb-04-08 04:34 PM |
#85 |
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I hear you, friend. What a mess this habit has caused. |
roguevalley |
Feb-04-08 04:39 PM |
#86 |
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I grew up in the southwest. |
StarryNite |
Feb-04-08 05:46 PM |
#98 |
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Hot butts on the floor of Sears, smoking in clothing stores, hardware stores, restaurants... |
Hekate |
Feb-04-08 09:52 PM |
#133 |
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My sympathy as well and I agree there is a special circle of hell |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 10:04 PM |
#136 |
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Maybe you need to move. I don't know where you could be |
snappyturtle |
Feb-04-08 01:56 PM |
#20 |
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Here's an interesting story about a woman who had her husband chain her to a radiator to quit. |
John Q. Citizen |
Feb-04-08 01:57 PM |
#21 |
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i agree with you, and i am a smoker |
noiretblu |
Feb-04-08 01:58 PM |
#22 |
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CHENTIX IS WORKING FOR ME.. |
YEBBA |
Feb-04-08 02:08 PM |
#27 |
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Good for you... |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 04:27 PM |
#81 |
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It will work, Yebba! |
vanboggie |
Feb-04-08 04:58 PM |
#91 |
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And just for everyones info; here is the list of the chemicals in a cigarette and it's smoke... |
Javaman |
Feb-04-08 02:20 PM |
#28 |
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Restaurants could get really empty |
vanboggie |
Feb-04-08 02:25 PM |
#29 |
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First of all, that law is "dead on arrival". Secondly, laws re: smoking in restaurants in CA |
impeachdubya |
Feb-04-08 02:30 PM |
#33 |
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I didn't mind smoking outside away from doors |
vanboggie |
Feb-04-08 02:40 PM |
#39 |
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I repeat: I'm not at all interested in banning cigarettes. |
impeachdubya |
Feb-04-08 03:13 PM |
#57 |
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Prior to smoking bans being passed, |
kgfnally |
Feb-04-08 02:52 PM |
#45 |
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I don't remember that at all. |
LanternWaste |
Feb-04-08 03:01 PM |
#51 |
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I remember my father-in-law saying |
vanboggie |
Feb-04-08 03:18 PM |
#58 |
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Thanks for posting this |
FloridaJudy |
Feb-04-08 02:57 PM |
#50 |
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Be a compassionate non-smoker like me |
vanboggie |
Feb-04-08 03:39 PM |
#61 |
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I live in a state where it is not permitted |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 04:10 PM |
#74 |
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I grew up on a smoking household |
vanboggie |
Feb-04-08 05:16 PM |
#96 |
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Good for you on the stopping part |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 09:05 PM |
#129 |
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Yep, I was always aware of the danger |
vanboggie |
Feb-04-08 10:25 PM |
#140 |
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Sorry to read you have that severe |
ScreamingWhisper |
Feb-04-08 02:35 PM |
#36 |
| -
Do cigarettes transport rolling stock across the country? |
LanternWaste |
Feb-04-08 02:50 PM |
#42 |
| -
I did always find smokers to be nicer, more tolerant people |
vanboggie |
Feb-04-08 02:51 PM |
#44 |
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Thanks! n/t |
ScreamingWhisper |
Feb-04-08 03:10 PM |
#55 |
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I've found that that's true |
FloridaJudy |
Feb-04-08 04:12 PM |
#76 |
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Didn't know city transit came through my living room |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 03:25 PM |
#59 |
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Because |
ScreamingWhisper |
Feb-04-08 03:47 PM |
#65 |
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You are making way, and I mean this WAAYYYYY too many assumptions |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 04:20 PM |
#77 |
| -
I do go to bars, so what? |
ScreamingWhisper |
Feb-04-08 05:01 PM |
#92 |
| -
Fair enough |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 08:48 PM |
#117 |
| -
So you found that data or long term study yet? |
ScreamingWhisper |
Feb-05-08 11:43 AM |
#193 |
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Fine, I won't smoke in your living room. Now stay out of my bar. |
High Plains |
Feb-04-08 03:51 PM |
#67 |
| -
You stay on your side of the Darwin line and I'll stay on mine. |
ScreamingWhisper |
Feb-04-08 04:00 PM |
#71 |
| -
Whoops! Sorry bout that!!!!!!! |
ScreamingWhisper |
Feb-04-08 04:02 PM |
#72 |
| -
They will never be happy. |
spacelady |
Feb-04-08 11:24 PM |
#159 |
| -
Hmm. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-04-08 02:37 PM |
#38 |
| -
whew.. i thougtt u were addressing tokers... |
crimsonblue |
Feb-04-08 02:51 PM |
#43 |
| -
LOL |
vanboggie |
Feb-04-08 03:46 PM |
#63 |
| -
If you were alergic to peanuts????? |
Dawggie |
Feb-04-08 02:54 PM |
#47 |
| -
As a former medic I call bullshit on your statement |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 04:22 PM |
#78 |
| -
Unless your allergy is one that I have never heard of before |
Dawggie |
Feb-04-08 05:40 PM |
#97 |
| -
HAVE YOU EVER been around an asthmatic in the midst of a bad attack? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 08:51 PM |
#120 |
| -
hmm i dunno about that |
iamthebandfanman |
Feb-04-08 02:54 PM |
#48 |
| -
Trust me, denial is quite strong |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 04:32 PM |
#84 |
| -
Hmmm |
davidthegnome |
Feb-04-08 04:41 PM |
#87 |
| -
Nobody is telling you we need to ban anything |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 08:57 PM |
#126 |
| -
Your concern is touching. |
trof |
Feb-04-08 04:45 PM |
#88 |
| -
Your heart is in the right place but those who need your |
Cleita |
Feb-04-08 05:03 PM |
#93 |
| -
I know that... this is part of the problem |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 06:44 PM |
#105 |
| -
I don't want to smoke in your local restaurant, I want to smoke in my local bar. |
Lilith Velkor |
Feb-04-08 05:09 PM |
#95 |
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I don't want to smoke anywhere around you |
RainDog |
Feb-04-08 06:07 PM |
#99 |
| -
Two things |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 08:36 PM |
#112 |
| -
right |
RainDog |
Feb-04-08 11:16 PM |
#155 |
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Sorry to tell you this but the effects to YOUR lungs long term |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-08 12:30 AM |
#172 |
| -
no |
RainDog |
Feb-05-08 12:49 AM |
#176 |
| -
Again you might want to review the SCIENCE |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-08 01:03 AM |
#178 |
| -
and yet...have you posted any links to articles proving you science |
ScreamingWhisper |
Feb-05-08 11:55 AM |
#194 |
| -
Are you adhering to DU rules? |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Feb-04-08 06:10 PM |
#100 |
| -
The world got along fine before the anti-smoking sanctimonious hysteria. |
Political Heretic |
Feb-04-08 06:49 PM |
#107 |
| -
That's ok, you have smokin' soul sister here |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Feb-04-08 07:47 PM |
#110 |
| -
I have no beef with considerate smokers |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 08:38 PM |
#114 |
| -
Where's edwards when we need him...Time to sue the Tobacco compainies. |
ileus |
Feb-04-08 06:46 PM |
#106 |
| -
So now that cigarettes have been banned.... |
Kansas Wyatt |
Feb-04-08 07:38 PM |
#109 |
| -
Spitoons pittered out for the same basic reason. |
cottonseed |
Feb-04-08 07:55 PM |
#111 |
| -
Cigarettes have not been banned |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 08:37 PM |
#113 |
| -
I don't know about that |
pipoman |
Feb-04-08 08:47 PM |
#116 |
| -
That might be a way to deal with it |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 08:52 PM |
#121 |
| -
The same could be said for imposing detrimental taxing |
pipoman |
Feb-04-08 10:11 PM |
#137 |
| -
Well in an ideal world, alas this is not one |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 10:33 PM |
#142 |
| -
And which of these regressive |
pipoman |
Feb-04-08 10:53 PM |
#148 |
| -
Fast food |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 11:06 PM |
#151 |
| -
I don't drink or smoke |
pipoman |
Feb-05-08 01:19 AM |
#183 |
| -
Policy wise, and yes we are talking here ideals not reality |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-08 01:34 AM |
#184 |
| -
So exactly what I am paying taxes for? |
pipoman |
Feb-05-08 07:04 AM |
#189 |
| -
Excuse me while I vomit |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-08 10:25 AM |
#190 |
| -
It's already highly regulated |
brook |
Feb-04-08 08:55 PM |
#125 |
| -
So you mean public health concerns are my responsibly and not Society's |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 08:59 PM |
#127 |
| -
I smoke but I have no problem with restaurant bans. |
MrSlayer |
Feb-04-08 10:17 PM |
#138 |
| -
It is an addiction, period |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 10:40 PM |
#144 |
| -
I didn't deny that it was. |
MrSlayer |
Feb-04-08 11:43 PM |
#165 |
| -
I have been both a smoker and a non-smoker... |
salin |
Feb-04-08 10:20 PM |
#139 |
| -
I agree with you, a university is going a tad far if they ban it on |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 10:39 PM |
#143 |
| -
You know, when I read these diatribes for the umpteenth time, |
spacelady |
Feb-04-08 10:49 PM |
#146 |
| -
And when I read these attitudes from people who are addicted to a substance |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 10:50 PM |
#147 |
| -
Yawn. |
spacelady |
Feb-04-08 10:57 PM |
#149 |
| -
Classic |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 11:06 PM |
#152 |
| -
Of course I was serious about saving your breath - blow it into |
spacelady |
Feb-04-08 11:27 PM |
#162 |
| -
You forgot the sarcasm |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 11:34 PM |
#163 |
| -
Yes, I was ribbing you, but smokers for the most part have made |
spacelady |
Feb-04-08 11:43 PM |
#166 |
| -
Not asking you to quit |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-08 12:11 AM |
#168 |
| -
Ok, I did read it again, and seriously, how am I going to know |
spacelady |
Feb-05-08 12:33 AM |
#173 |
| -
If you are sensitive to ammonia, I'd think of quitting, one by-product of the smoke |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-08 12:42 AM |
#175 |
| -
Avoid enclosed spaces where smoking is allowed, problem solved. |
spacelady |
Feb-05-08 01:06 AM |
#179 |
| -
How do I avoid my home? Good grief |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-08 01:09 AM |
#180 |
| -
I think this sums up your tirade: |
The Straight Story |
Feb-04-08 11:04 PM |
#150 |
| -
As I said above, public health (and studies) are NOT a choice |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 11:07 PM |
#153 |
| -
I don't care if it is upthread - deny choice to people is still wrong IMHO |
The Straight Story |
Feb-04-08 11:11 PM |
#154 |
| -
Actually the list of poisons is too damn close |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 11:16 PM |
#156 |
| -
Controlling people.... |
The Straight Story |
Feb-04-08 11:20 PM |
#158 |
| -
What about the workers at that bar? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 11:27 PM |
#160 |
| -
A few things about that |
The Straight Story |
Feb-04-08 11:37 PM |
#164 |
| -
In a free society we also have the commons |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-08 12:09 AM |
#167 |
| -
Naw |
The Straight Story |
Feb-05-08 12:12 AM |
#169 |
| -
GD-P a place to stay away for a good while |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-08 12:15 AM |
#170 |
| -
I quit smoking on Feb 8th of last year... I am glad to have thrown off those shackles... |
mikelewis |
Feb-04-08 11:20 PM |
#157 |
| -
Good for you I congratulate you |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-04-08 11:27 PM |
#161 |
| -
obese and/or smokers= less health care costs |
RainDog |
Feb-05-08 12:30 AM |
#171 |
| -
You sure about that? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-08 12:34 AM |
#174 |
| -
did you actually read the link? |
RainDog |
Feb-05-08 12:56 AM |
#177 |
| -
Yes I did |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-08 01:17 AM |
#182 |
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i have oodles of friends and family w/ asthma. bring your inhaler, avoid problem areas. |
NuttyFluffers |
Feb-05-08 02:56 AM |
#188 |
| -
Rebuttal |
DadOf2LittleAngels |
Feb-05-08 10:59 AM |
#192 |
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