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DadOf2LittleAngels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:37 PM
Response to Reply #133
144. Sorry Charlie
"You've had your day in the sun or the bar or restaurant."

I don't smoke and I don't take my kids where people are smoking, you see us big boys and girls are capable of looking out for our health without crapping on the rights of private business owners...
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  -WOO-HOO!! Smoking ban in Maryland bars and restaurants goes into madinmaryland  Jan-30-08 01:27 PM   #0 
  - Bah. Body nazis.  SteppingRazor   Jan-30-08 01:28 PM   #1 
  - Yes god forbid we tramp on the rights of the smoking nazis  LynneSin   Jan-30-08 01:47 PM   #20 
  - Strict clean-air standards for nonsmoking sections would serve just as well...  benEzra   Jan-30-08 04:40 PM   #146 
  - Smoking sections in a building is like peeing sections in a pool.  Swede   Jan-30-08 09:52 PM   #167 
     - Yes, it does...and air quality standards would be enforceable.  benEzra   Jan-31-08 08:05 AM   #172 
        - No...,really.... it doesn't work. n/t  Caoimhe   Jan-31-08 05:11 PM   #174 
           - Yes, it does, if properly designed.  benEzra   Jan-31-08 08:09 PM   #176 
  - This is all so that people will drive to Delaware and pay their tolls to smoke in their bars, right?  JVS   Jan-30-08 11:28 PM   #169 
  - Some of those "body Nazis" have asthma, and second-hand  JDPriestly   Jan-30-08 04:45 PM   #150 
  - This smoker...  LanternWaste   Jan-30-08 01:30 PM   #2 
  - this smoker would like everyone else to quit driving and spewing invisible carcinogens into my air.  Viva_La_Revolution   Jan-30-08 01:33 PM   #7 
  - when i was a smoker i had  sweets   Jan-30-08 01:42 PM   #15 
  - and now it's ok that smog causes as many illnesses as long-term exposure to second hand smoke?  Viva_La_Revolution   Jan-30-08 02:00 PM   #42 
  - We selectively and conveniently choose  LanternWaste   Jan-30-08 02:36 PM   #98 
  - There's nothing like having a track record.  TahitiNut   Jan-30-08 02:01 PM   #44 
  - When your cigarette can also drive you to and from work...  LanternWaste   Jan-30-08 02:30 PM   # 
  - Well I have to hand it to you. Your bull shit is up front!  Mountainman   Jan-30-08 03:12 PM   #125 
  - +1  harmonicon   Jan-30-08 03:52 PM   #141 
  - good for you.  sweets   Jan-30-08 01:43 PM   #16 
     - I've learned the hard way...  LanternWaste   Jan-30-08 03:26 PM   #137 
        - good luck to you. i smoked for 30 years --- 2 packs a day.  sweets   Jan-30-08 05:32 PM   #160 
  - Reason #29 not to visit Maryland  meegbear   Jan-30-08 01:30 PM   #3 
  - Only 29?  Sweet Pea   Jan-30-08 01:39 PM   #11 
  - There's been this ban in Montgomery Co, Maryland for several years  turtlensue   Jan-30-08 01:55 PM   #32 
     - And business increased!  kirby   Jan-30-08 01:59 PM   #40 
        - These bans happen and intially there is always backlash  LynneSin   Jan-30-08 02:02 PM   #46 
  - It's effect, asshat.  Midlodemocrat   Jan-30-08 01:31 PM   #4 
  - Nice post, Hitler!  madinmaryland   Jan-30-08 01:52 PM   #26 
  - I guess I'll be spending my money in Virginia.  High Plains   Jan-30-08 01:31 PM   #5 
  - About damn time...  kirby   Jan-30-08 01:32 PM   #6 
  - How many people die from second hand smoke, anyway?  High Plains   Jan-30-08 01:34 PM   #8 
  - There are studies...  kirby   Jan-30-08 01:38 PM   #10 
  - More than you think and this isn't just about 2nd hand smoke.  Deep13   Jan-30-08 01:49 PM   #22 
  - Don't get me started with second hand smoke - I dealt with it for years  LynneSin   Jan-30-08 01:50 PM   #24 
  - And  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 01:53 PM   #29 
     - Yeah but the voters wanted this!!  kirby   Jan-30-08 01:56 PM   #33 
     - They call us non-smokers 'Nazis' but the real 'Nazis' are the smokers  LynneSin   Jan-30-08 01:59 PM   #39 
     - Tell ya what  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 02:13 PM   #59 
        - How about when I have to walk through a cloud of smoke to  Midlodemocrat   Jan-30-08 02:16 PM   #62 
        - If the resturant allows somking and you hate it that much  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 02:19 PM   #72 
           - Missed the point, but thanks for playing.  Midlodemocrat   Jan-30-08 02:46 PM   #106 
              - Wow  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 03:08 PM   #121 
                 - You're missing the point entirely.  Midlodemocrat   Jan-30-08 03:29 PM   #139 
        - Clearly you don't get it - it's not about the patrons  LynneSin   Jan-30-08 02:16 PM   #63 
           - "It's about the employees. "  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 02:22 PM   #75 
              - Irish need not apply.  kirby   Jan-30-08 02:26 PM   #80 
              - One can say the same  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 02:37 PM   #99 
                 - Business want to 'stay competitive'  kirby   Jan-30-08 02:42 PM   #103 
                    - Point by Point  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 02:53 PM   #111 
                    - Try Advertising  Crisco   Jan-30-08 04:51 PM   #151 
              - And you can just live  StarryNite   Jan-30-08 02:35 PM   #96 
                 - And you can live in a state where revolutaniory free speech is allowed  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 02:54 PM   #112 
                    - Smoking bans are happening  StarryNite   Jan-30-08 03:18 PM   #133 
                       - Sorry Charlie  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 04:37 PM   #144 
                          - My name isn't Charlie...  StarryNite   Jan-30-08 04:54 PM   #156 
                             - good point n/t  Caoimhe   Jan-30-08 06:19 PM   #161 
                             - You dont have to take a test or obtain a license to drink/smoke  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 08:50 PM   #164 
     - The majority is not always right  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 02:13 PM   #56 
        - The majority is not always wrong either...  kirby   Jan-30-08 02:36 PM   #97 
     - Smokers makes a choice - why should those of us who choose not to smoke suffer?  LynneSin   Jan-30-08 01:57 PM   #37 
        - My Great-grandfather who never smoked died of lung cancer.  Viva_La_Revolution   Jan-30-08 02:05 PM   #47 
        - My grandfather was an invalid for 15 years with emphysema from smoking  kwassa   Jan-30-08 02:09 PM   #54 
        - That's sad  Viva_La_Revolution   Jan-30-08 02:18 PM   #67 
           - because smoking is an addictive source of fatal disease easily eradicated.  kwassa   Jan-30-08 02:21 PM   #74 
           - Wrong thread...  kirby   Jan-30-08 02:29 PM   #88 
        - My grand-father smoked till he died at 85, and did not die of lung  madinmaryland   Jan-30-08 02:13 PM   #57 
        - Oh that lovely strawman  LynneSin   Jan-30-08 02:13 PM   #58 
        - Great post. And, dead on.  Midlodemocrat   Jan-30-08 02:14 PM   #60 
        - You're clever... I'm sure you can find someone to blame  LanternWaste   Jan-30-08 03:08 PM   #120 
        - So did The  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 02:16 PM   #61 
           - Cigarettes serve no positive social purpose. None.  kwassa   Jan-30-08 02:19 PM   #70 
           - Neither does weed, alcohol, pornography, ....  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 02:23 PM   #76 
           - Exactly. I just want people to acknowledge the duplicity of their Angst Against Smoke  temeah   Jan-30-08 02:28 PM   #85 
           - I don't think that the smoke from weed contains  LanternWaste   Jan-30-08 03:10 PM   #124 
              - Fact..  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 04:39 PM   #145 
           - But those can be used healthfully in moderation. Smoking can't.  kwassa   Jan-30-08 02:29 PM   #87 
           - Really?  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 02:35 PM   #95 
              - oh, I am sure that outweighs the 400,000 that die from smoking-related illnesses each year  kwassa   Jan-30-08 02:41 PM   #102 
                 - Well you said alchol can be enjoyed in moderation  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 03:06 PM   #117 
           - All other things being equal, what you mentioned are not addictive.  LanternWaste   Jan-30-08 03:10 PM   #123 
           - Youre kidding right  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 03:27 PM   #138 
           - Again, Not True (Porn is Questionable)  Crisco   Jan-30-08 04:54 PM   #155 
           - That's Not True At All  Crisco   Jan-30-08 04:53 PM   #154 
           - What about the 100,000,000 people in this country  madinmaryland   Jan-30-08 02:26 PM   #82 
              - Chance are if youre in a town with only one resturant  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 02:39 PM   #100 
                 - I guess what you are trying to say is that the almighty dollar  madinmaryland   Jan-30-08 02:47 PM   #107 
                    - No but thanks for playing..  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 02:57 PM   #114 
                    - Well, I'll leave it that we have fundamental difference.  madinmaryland   Jan-30-08 03:07 PM   #119 
                       - Well  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 03:15 PM   #130 
                    - It's funny how all these people whine about smoking bans  alarimer   Jan-30-08 05:04 PM   #158 
  - One is too many. But here are the facts:  Lorien   Jan-30-08 02:28 PM   #84 
  - Thanks Lorien for posting this information.  madinmaryland   Jan-30-08 02:49 PM   #108 
     - Well, I'm afraid the facts won't matter to a lot of people  Lorien   Jan-30-08 08:20 PM   #162 
  - 49,400 each year. See above post. n/t  Lorien   Jan-30-08 02:33 PM   #92 
  - Yea not to mention  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 01:40 PM   #12 
     - Huh?  kirby   Jan-30-08 01:44 PM   #17 
     - Everything can be a public health issue  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 01:51 PM   #25 
        - The slippery slope argument...  kirby   Jan-30-08 01:54 PM   #31 
        - No it just means we dont crap on a freedom to make us all better  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 02:06 PM   #49 
           - As a smoker, I'm crapping on the freedoms  LanternWaste   Jan-30-08 03:14 PM   #128 
        - A couple of points about your arguments:  madinmaryland   Jan-30-08 02:00 PM   #41 
        - Picking at nits  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 02:07 PM   #50 
        - Not sure what your response is to my first comment and  madinmaryland   Jan-30-08 02:19 PM   #69 
           - To clarify  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 02:25 PM   #78 
              - My point is, which you don't seem to get,  madinmaryland   Jan-30-08 02:35 PM   #94 
              - Nope I made a choice not to  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 02:40 PM   #101 
              - What's the ratio of food addicts to nicotine addicts?  LanternWaste   Jan-30-08 03:15 PM   #129 
        - Personally I think going after fatty foods isn't a bad idea.  LynneSin   Jan-30-08 02:17 PM   #66 
           - I don't have a problem going after fatty foods,  madinmaryland   Jan-30-08 02:20 PM   #73 
           - Some how I did not think you would  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 02:26 PM   #81 
              - Facism of the diet ? Are you calling us Diet Facists?  kwassa   Jan-30-08 02:33 PM   #93 
                 - Oh that name will never do for marketing  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 02:43 PM   #104 
                    - well, about 30% of cancers are related to diet, says the CDC  kwassa   Jan-30-08 02:50 PM   #109 
                       - So 100% of those  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 02:58 PM   #116 
                          - because it runs up health insurance premiums for everyone, making it unaffordable for many  kwassa   Jan-30-08 03:06 PM   #118 
                             - Well if thats the case  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 03:13 PM   #127 
                                - Eating is voluntary behavior, and genetics are involuntary.  kwassa   Jan-30-08 03:17 PM   #132 
                                   - Ahhh but who you breed with *is* voulntary...  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 03:18 PM   #134 
                                      - and what is your point?  kwassa   Jan-30-08 03:21 PM   #135 
                                         - But  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 04:41 PM   #147 
        - You say cable TV is worse than second-hand smoke for your children?  kwassa   Jan-30-08 02:01 PM   #43 
        - Well... Because you *really* want to see it  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 02:11 PM   #55 
           - oh please ...  kwassa   Jan-30-08 02:26 PM   #79 
           - So its a metter of degree?  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 02:28 PM   #86 
              - hey, you compared cable TV to smoking, not me!  kwassa   Jan-30-08 02:30 PM   #90 
                 - Can you answer the question then...  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 02:44 PM   #105 
                    - Smoking is a huge proven health risk. Cable TV is not.  kwassa   Jan-30-08 02:52 PM   #110 
                       - You dont think voilent stupid kids are a health risk  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 02:55 PM   #113 
                          - um, there are no measurements in that quote of yours.  kwassa   Jan-30-08 03:08 PM   #122 
           - So cable teevee is responsible for over a quarter million  LanternWaste   Jan-30-08 03:16 PM   #131 
        - It's already happening... California City Approves Outdoor Smoking Ban  Viva_La_Revolution   Jan-30-08 02:09 PM   #52 
     - All other things being equal...  LanternWaste   Jan-30-08 03:12 PM   #126 
        - Sex in public is legal..  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-30-08 04:43 PM   #148 
  - As a smoker...  skypilot   Jan-30-08 01:37 PM   #9 
  - Nice post, Big Nanny Brother  temeah   Jan-30-08 01:41 PM   #13 
  - I will have you know..  turtlensue   Jan-30-08 01:57 PM   #35 
     - When will people learn that the coolness of a bar depends upon 4 things:  temeah   Jan-30-08 02:09 PM   #53 
     - I'm going to be completely honest here  turtlensue   Jan-30-08 04:52 PM   #152 
        - I'll be on my bunk  temeah   Jan-30-08 05:05 PM   #159 
     - Hey, wait a second there Snyder!  madinmaryland   Jan-30-08 02:17 PM   #64 
  - i hope it happens in every state.  sweets   Jan-30-08 01:42 PM   #14 
  - Wow, Ohio beat Maryland in protecting public health?  Deep13   Jan-30-08 01:46 PM   #18 
  - Parts of MD have had this for years  turtlensue   Jan-30-08 01:58 PM   #38 
     - Howard County went smokeless three years ago.  madinmaryland   Jan-30-08 02:01 PM   #45 
  - Been like that in California the past 10 years - what took MD so long?  devilgrrl   Jan-30-08 01:47 PM   #19 
  - Big Tobacco...  kirby   Jan-30-08 01:50 PM   #23 
     - MD has the HIGHEST tobacco tax in the country  turtlensue   Jan-30-08 05:02 PM   #157 
  - Rock On!!!!!!111  Southpawkicker   Jan-30-08 01:48 PM   #21 
  - Wish Pennsylvania's stupid legislature would catch up  RamboLiberal   Jan-30-08 01:52 PM   #27 
  - As promised in your Lounge thread, I'm officially flaming you.  dbaker41   Jan-30-08 01:52 PM   #28 
  - Flame away all you want! OUTSIDE!!1!!  madinmaryland   Jan-30-08 01:53 PM   #30 
     - Gladly!  dbaker41   Jan-30-08 01:57 PM   #34 
  - When is Skinner going to make a Smoking Section (dungeon)?  stimbox   Jan-30-08 01:57 PM   #36 
  - LOL That would be a cool place (like the Lounge). And non-smoker DUers would want to be  temeah   Jan-30-08 02:06 PM   #48 
     - The cool DUers ARE the non smokers.  Midlodemocrat   Jan-30-08 02:17 PM   #65 
        - But I'm a non-smoker AND non-mercer  LynneSin   Jan-30-08 02:18 PM   #68 
        - Half-cool, of course.  kwassa   Jan-30-08 02:27 PM   #83 
        - ...  temeah   Jan-30-08 02:24 PM   #77 
  - OMGz teh facism!  IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge   Jan-30-08 02:09 PM   #51 
  - I must say... there's nothing like a good Hate the Smokers thread to take my mind off of Edwards  Viva_La_Revolution   Jan-30-08 02:19 PM   #71 
  - As long as they don't have an inhaling law, I don't care  no name no slogan   Jan-30-08 02:30 PM   #89 
  - Bill? Is that you? n/t  kirby   Jan-30-08 02:31 PM   #91 
  - Cool - Maryland just became a little nicer!  El Pinko   Jan-30-08 02:57 PM   #115 
  - Yee HAW!  jhain   Jan-30-08 03:25 PM   #136 
  - My mom died from smoking related health issues 4 months ago  Caoimhe   Jan-30-08 03:51 PM   #140 
  - I'm so sorry for your loss, and for what you endured as a child  Lorien   Jan-30-08 08:28 PM   #163 
     - Thankyou and I am the same way.  Caoimhe   Jan-31-08 05:09 PM   #173 
        - Here's some info on the portable air filters:  Lorien   Jan-31-08 06:18 PM   #175 
  - Great, now lets go after the assholes that wear perfumed products in public.  Mugu   Jan-30-08 04:22 PM   #142 
  - I have not heard of any perfume that kills people by the thousands that don't  madinmaryland   Jan-30-08 09:23 PM   #166 
  - Hooray for a restriction of freedom that closes businesses!!  Snarkturian Clone   Jan-30-08 04:35 PM   #143 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-30-08 09:21 PM   #165 
     - Great reply!  neverforget   Jan-30-08 10:12 PM   #168 
     - What greed?  Snarkturian Clone   Jan-31-08 06:25 AM   #170 
     - .  Midlodemocrat   Jan-31-08 06:29 AM   #171 
  - Congrats! Illinois' took effect the 1st of the year, and it's great!  mycritters2   Jan-30-08 04:43 PM   #149 
  - Looks like we have the semi annual thread about smoking again.  anitar1   Jan-30-08 04:52 PM   #153 
 

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