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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:53 AM
Response to Reply #12
13. corporations enjoy many of the same legal rights as individuals.
Furthermore they have no moral or ethical compass other than the imperative to turn a profit. If they are not held "collectively" accountable when they violate laws or standards of civilized conduct then they will operate with impunity, as they frequently do.

Only the "owners" of corporations can ultimately influence their behavior. Therefore only when the consequences of accountability are passed along to the "owners" will corporations be motivated to act in legally and morally accountable ways.

Either that or we could eliminate the legal principle of "corporate person-hood." That would work too.
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  -Democratic Senators whom you like today... will be voting... in favor of telecom amnesty Truth2Tell  Jan-29-08 12:41 AM   #0 
  - Thanks for posting this. It's good to have an idea of what going on.  John Q. Citizen   Jan-29-08 12:55 AM   #1 
  - I haven't read much about this...  water   Jan-29-08 01:05 AM   #2 
  - A lawsuit (civil action) wouldn't result in an arrest (criminal prosecution)  wtmusic   Jan-29-08 01:13 AM   #3 
     - If there can't be arrests, wouldn't the only result be higher prices for consumers, then? What's...  water   Jan-29-08 01:18 AM   #4 
        - Telcos' prices are still regulated  wtmusic   Jan-29-08 01:23 AM   #6 
        - Civil and/or criminal proceedings  Truth2Tell   Jan-29-08 01:25 AM   #7 
           - I'm all for the rule of law, but when the WRONG PEOPLE ARE PUNISHED...  water   Jan-29-08 01:29 AM   #10 
              - Nobody is trying to "siphon dollars" out of anyone  Truth2Tell   Jan-29-08 01:36 AM   #11 
              - Corporations aren't living, concious entities. They don't do things...  water   Jan-29-08 01:40 AM   #12 
                 - corporations enjoy many of the same legal rights as individuals.  Truth2Tell   Jan-29-08 01:53 AM   #13 
                 - Yeah, the legal principle is nuts... but that doesn't change the wrong people being punushed.  water   Jan-29-08 01:58 AM   #14 
                    - If the telecom execs were bribed or threatened  Truth2Tell   Jan-29-08 02:04 AM   #18 
                       - Again, what will be gained?  water   Jan-29-08 02:07 AM   #19 
                          - individuals' retirement accounts take a beating ?  Truth2Tell   Jan-29-08 02:09 AM   #20 
                             - No, I'm channeling practicality.  water   Jan-29-08 02:12 AM   #21 
                                - Nevermind.  Truth2Tell   Jan-29-08 02:13 AM   #23 
                                   - i know! pretty fucking hysterical, isn't it? n/t  orleans   Jan-29-08 02:17 AM   #25 
                                   - I apologize for not having a knee-jerk reaction, but I prefer positives to negatives.  water   Jan-29-08 02:40 AM   #27 
                 - so you're willing to get fucked over as long as your phone bill doesn't go up?  orleans   Jan-29-08 01:59 AM   #15 
                    - Read my response to Truth2Tell  water   Jan-29-08 02:01 AM   #17 
                       - they won't be held accountable if the fuckhead gets his way, that's for sure  orleans   Jan-29-08 02:12 AM   #22 
              - Let me guess, we need to eliminate corporate taxes all together.  greyhound1966   Jan-29-08 02:16 AM   #24 
                 - and don't forget about your "individual retirement accounts"  orleans   Jan-29-08 02:22 AM   #26 
                 - If there would be truth, justice, and the american way I'd be all for it!!  water   Jan-29-08 02:08 PM   #28 
                    - They won't be able  vpilot   Jan-29-08 04:05 PM   #36 
                    - oh please!  orleans   Jan-29-08 05:06 PM   #38 
                 - Compared to Europe, our corporate taxes are very high and complicated.  water   Jan-29-08 02:10 PM   #29 
                    - Not in reality  Zodiak Ironfist   Jan-29-08 02:23 PM   #30 
                    - You make an excellent point, which happened to be mine as well!  water   Jan-29-08 02:32 PM   #31 
                       - Because they do not have loopholes so everyone pays the sticker price  Zodiak Ironfist   Jan-29-08 02:45 PM   #32 
                       - Yes, and their sticker price is lower! Exactly how it should be here.  water   Jan-29-08 03:11 PM   #33 
                       - American corporations aren't moving to Europe.  Truth2Tell   Jan-29-08 03:32 PM   #34 
                          - I'm voting for Obama, though as a libertarian I traditionally I haven't voted.  water   Jan-29-08 03:45 PM   #35 
                             - LOL.  Zodiak Ironfist   Jan-29-08 04:43 PM   #37 
                                - Chill out. :)  water   Jan-29-08 08:42 PM   #39 
                                   - Dude,  Truth2Tell   Jan-29-08 11:22 PM   #40 
                                      - Here's a better way of thinking about it.  water   Jan-30-08 12:47 AM   #41 
                                         - In order that corporations do not  Truth2Tell   Jan-30-08 01:41 AM   #42 
                                         - I don't disagree with you.  water   Jan-30-08 02:25 AM   #46 
                                         - What you wrote.........  tkmorris   Jan-30-08 01:54 AM   #44 
                                            - Anything specifically wrong?  water   Jan-30-08 02:10 AM   #45 
                    - WHAT?!? /credibility  tkmorris   Jan-30-08 01:49 AM   #43 
                       - Name a European country that has higher corporate taxes.  water   Jan-30-08 02:26 AM   #47 
                          - Pull out a map of Europe, close your eyes, and point.  greyhound1966   Jan-30-08 02:57 AM   #48 
                             - That's such a silly argument!  water   Jan-30-08 03:07 AM   #49 
                                - Well, no shit. You've managed to completely miss the whole point (again).  greyhound1966   Jan-30-08 11:51 PM   #50 
                                   - You are either confused or trying to mislead...  water   Jan-31-08 12:44 AM   #51 
  - This is silly.  wtmusic   Jan-29-08 01:18 AM   #5 
     - They have ego though.  Truth2Tell   Jan-29-08 01:27 AM   #8 
        - Hoo boy...that's what I call confidence  wtmusic   Jan-29-08 01:28 AM   #9 
        - HEY! nobody here wants to see that picture!  orleans   Jan-29-08 02:01 AM   #16 
 

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