DemoTex
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Mon Jan-28-08 08:39 PM
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| In 1972 a philosophy professor put a .45 automatic Colt to my head and said .. |
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"Defend your existence!"
In retrospect, he was trying to jolt me out of a quasi-suicidal, post Vietnam funk. We were studying Kant at the time, and I had just submitted a required paper that said only" "I kant! I kant!"
He called me to his office for a consultation. Hence the gun-play episode, which changed my life. His too, probably.
I defended for two hours. Specious syllogisms from me got a cocked gun from him. Was he serious with the .45? I don't know. In the end, I said what he wanted to hear .. and it was, indeed, what I believed. The gun went into his desk drawer and the reefer came out.
Did I ever report him to university officials? No. Did I re-read and re-write the assignment on Kant? Yes. Did I clean up my post-Vietnam act and quit feeling sorry for myself? Yes.
I tell this story as a part of a collection I will tell over the next few days. Stream-of-consciousness (perhaps) leading into the 40th anniversary of the 1968 Tet Offensive (1/31/1968).
Mac
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In 1972 a philosophy professor put a .45 automatic Colt to my head and said .. |
DemoTex |
Jan-28-08 08:39 PM |
#0 |

Deeee ammmn. |
lonestarnot |
Jan-28-08 08:40 PM |
#1 |

Wow. I used to bitch about my social ethics prof. |
mycritters2 |
Jan-28-08 08:41 PM |
#2 |

Wow... just WOW. |
alittlelark |
Jan-28-08 08:41 PM |
#3 |

Why did I never have profs like that? |
Sabriel |
Jan-28-08 08:41 PM |
#4 |

Professional Philosopher, You Say, Sir.... |
The Magistrate |
Jan-28-08 08:42 PM |
#5 |
 
Why do you always say that "sir" and "madame" monkey business? |
King Coal |
Jan-28-08 09:26 PM |
#22 |

If Your Highness Is Pleased |
The Magistrate |
Jan-28-08 09:57 PM |
#24 |
 
ROFLMAO! |
hootinholler |
Jan-29-08 12:30 AM |
#45 |

Insulting?? |
Saboburns |
Jan-28-08 10:25 PM |
#26 |

No, it is deferential regard. |
dmr |
Jan-28-08 11:33 PM |
#35 |

He does it because he is The Magistrate, Sir, and a Confucian when it comes to formality. |
Hekate |
Jan-29-08 12:20 AM |
#42 |

Do not fuck with the Magistrate |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-29-08 01:19 AM |
#50 |

Being the word police is insulting too |
BoneDaddy |
Jan-29-08 04:54 AM |
#56 |

Insulting To Whom? |
ProfessorGAC |
Jan-29-08 06:06 AM |
#58 |

Only if you interpret it as insulting. |
RandomKoolzip |
Jan-29-08 10:31 AM |
#61 |

It use to bug me too as a lurker, then I discovered Magistrate is awesome. :) |
Political Heretic |
Jan-29-08 08:14 PM |
#75 |

Me too. Most people doing that are just being smarmy and sarcastic. |
ieoeja |
Jan-30-08 01:38 PM |
#94 |

I'm a university faculty member, and I do say, there are some weird folks in the business. |
CLW |
Jan-28-08 08:46 PM |
#6 |
 
well,yeah, because today's student would have called mommy on his cell phone, |
Iris |
Jan-29-08 06:58 PM |
#66 |
  
Ha! You're so right. My colleagues who teach undergraduates have tales |
CLW |
Jan-29-08 08:16 PM |
#76 |
  
Hopefully they will stay off your lawn, too. |
AngryAmish |
Jan-30-08 10:03 AM |
#88 |
 
Strange bunch on those campus's. |
R_M |
Jan-30-08 12:24 AM |
#84 |

They all do that. |
gulliver |
Jan-28-08 08:47 PM |
#7 |
 
lol!. . . n/t |
annabanana |
Jan-28-08 10:51 PM |
#34 |
 
in that case, I'd ask for the gun [n/t] |
stranger81 |
Jan-29-08 01:30 AM |
#51 |

More please... |
shrdlu |
Jan-28-08 08:47 PM |
#8 |
 
No more to that story. Other than an "A" at the quarter's end. |
DemoTex |
Jan-28-08 09:37 PM |
#23 |

Was he a vet? |
WilliamPitt |
Jan-28-08 08:47 PM |
#9 |
 
No. He was not a vet. BTW: It was at Auburn. |
DemoTex |
Jan-28-08 09:14 PM |
#16 |

I had a Staff Sergeant point a .45 at my head. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jan-28-08 08:48 PM |
#10 |
 
I had a medic accidentally fire his .45 when he was cleaning it. |
tabasco |
Jan-29-08 07:40 PM |
#73 |

Oh, that was you? |
Lex |
Jan-28-08 08:48 PM |
#11 |
 
No! Thanks! |
DemoTex |
Jan-28-08 09:17 PM |
#18 |

Not exactly how you thought the consultation would go, huh? |
Joe Fields |
Jan-28-08 08:49 PM |
#12 |

I hate when that happens |
NNN0LHI |
Jan-28-08 08:52 PM |
#13 |

Was he a Jesuit? (Sounds like one.) |
TahitiNut |
Jan-28-08 08:53 PM |
#14 |
 
Nope. Just a fairly cool Alabama redneck at Auburn. |
DemoTex |
Jan-28-08 09:18 PM |
#19 |

That definitely qualifies as an event that leaves a life-long impression. |
scarletwoman |
Jan-28-08 08:57 PM |
#15 |

Don't Waste That Story Here on DU |
Yavin4 |
Jan-28-08 09:15 PM |
#17 |
 
Damn good idea! |
DemoTex |
Jan-28-08 09:20 PM |
#20 |
  
I'm Serious |
Yavin4 |
Jan-30-08 01:18 AM |
#86 |
 
What a great premise - DEFEND YOUR EXISTENCE! |
UncleSepp |
Jan-29-08 06:03 AM |
#57 |
 
Christopher Walken as the prof. |
Hardrada |
Jan-29-08 06:15 PM |
#64 |

SNORT! |
crispini |
Jan-30-08 10:15 AM |
#90 |

He Should Get The Role, Sir, No Question |
The Magistrate |
Jan-30-08 12:05 PM |
#92 |

Cool. I'll be reading that. |
King Coal |
Jan-28-08 09:23 PM |
#21 |

K & R. |
BleedingHeartPatriot |
Jan-28-08 10:12 PM |
#25 |

was it loaded? |
QuestionAll |
Jan-28-08 10:28 PM |
#27 |
 
Rule #1: Every gun is always loaded |
slackmaster |
Jan-29-08 07:02 PM |
#67 |

i think there's also a rule about a professor putting a guns to a student's head... |
QuestionAll |
Jan-29-08 07:39 PM |
#72 |

The rules I stated are for safe firearm handling |
slackmaster |
Jan-29-08 08:29 PM |
#77 |

well- you didn't specify that, now did you? |
QuestionAll |
Jan-29-08 08:34 PM |
#78 |

If you refuse to learn gun safety, you are potentially a part of the problem |
slackmaster |
Jan-30-08 10:00 AM |
#87 |

Please put your collection in your Journal so I don't miss any of it. |
annabanana |
Jan-28-08 10:28 PM |
#28 |
 
Done Anna! |
DemoTex |
Jan-29-08 09:47 PM |
#81 |

All I have to say is |
Prisoner_Number_Six |
Jan-28-08 10:31 PM |
#29 |

What conversation did you have ... |
Martin Eden |
Jan-28-08 10:31 PM |
#30 |

A little "tough philosophical love", eh? |
Canuckistanian |
Jan-28-08 10:33 PM |
#31 |

Damn... |
herbster |
Jan-28-08 10:36 PM |
#32 |

Sounds like he wanted to hear you give a Critique of Pure Insanity. |
MilesColtrane |
Jan-28-08 10:50 PM |
#33 |

Don't you mean .45 semi-automatic Colt? n/t |
MiltonF |
Jan-28-08 11:37 PM |
#36 |
 
"automatic" as in "autoloading" |
krispos42 |
Jan-29-08 03:07 AM |
#55 |

Philosophy professors are a breed apart |
eridani |
Jan-28-08 11:42 PM |
#37 |
 
That, Ma'am, Is A Thing Of Beauty.... |
The Magistrate |
Jan-29-08 02:03 AM |
#54 |

Holy cow! You have a screenplay started there. Can't wait for your others. |
Neshanic |
Jan-28-08 11:44 PM |
#38 |

Real life... damn it was a kick-in-the-ass |
BushDespiser12 |
Jan-28-08 11:44 PM |
#39 |

Holy Gods! |
knight_of_the_star |
Jan-28-08 11:56 PM |
#40 |

i woulda got shot. n/t |
iamthebandfanman |
Jan-29-08 12:16 AM |
#41 |

Don't make them like they used to or |
burrowowl |
Jan-29-08 12:23 AM |
#43 |

Holy shit. Please do continue. |
Hekate |
Jan-29-08 12:26 AM |
#44 |

Write those stories, DemoTex! |
Bozita |
Jan-29-08 12:31 AM |
#46 |
 
Stand by! |
DemoTex |
Jan-29-08 08:09 PM |
#74 |

Syllogisms vs. a .45- sounds fair. n/t |
bluedawg12 |
Jan-29-08 12:33 AM |
#47 |

Looking forward to you recounting your memories |
mrsteve |
Jan-29-08 12:40 AM |
#48 |

We only get issued a Glock 9mm; but we're a tier 3 institution...n/t |
herbster |
Jan-29-08 01:14 AM |
#49 |

There goes my major |
Tuesday Afternoon |
Jan-29-08 01:39 AM |
#52 |

Sphincter Factor 9.85 |
BadGimp |
Jan-29-08 02:01 AM |
#53 |

It took you two hours to defend your existance? |
joshcryer |
Jan-29-08 06:28 AM |
#59 |
 
You had to be there. |
DemoTex |
Jan-29-08 07:37 PM |
#70 |

today he'd be given a psychiatric eval and a pink slip |
Generic Other |
Jan-29-08 08:20 AM |
#60 |

Holy Shit, Mac! |
Cooley Hurd |
Jan-29-08 05:42 PM |
#62 |
 
Military I/Ps (instructor pilots) would hit their students over the head with clipboards. |
DemoTex |
Jan-29-08 07:32 PM |
#69 |

Maybe it was loaded with those "bouncy bullets". n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Jan-29-08 05:52 PM |
#63 |

Do you still have his contact number |
grantcart |
Jan-29-08 06:52 PM |
#65 |

Thank you for your service and for the interesting story. |
conservdem |
Jan-29-08 07:17 PM |
#68 |

The Deer Hunter wasn't out till '78/79, so it couldn't be copycatting that. |
UTUSN |
Jan-29-08 07:39 PM |
#71 |
 
Having just returned from an environment of extreme violence, I was an easy mark (perhaps). |
DemoTex |
Jan-29-08 09:37 PM |
#79 |

Thanks for not taking offense & responding thoughtfully. I didn't intend offense to you. |
UTUSN |
Jan-30-08 10:04 AM |
#89 |

Ah... one of my favorite Red Dwarf episodes |
FlyingSquirrel |
Jan-29-08 09:45 PM |
#80 |

#1 reason why gun ownership should be mandatory |
The Inquisitive |
Jan-29-08 11:50 PM |
#82 |

When do we get the story? |
burrowowl |
Jan-29-08 11:56 PM |
#83 |

this thread is gonna be stewing in the awesome sauce! |
Blue_Tires |
Jan-30-08 12:34 AM |
#85 |

Had he done that to me.... |
Iggo |
Jan-30-08 10:20 AM |
#91 |

Sounds like a spiritual teaching story. I can't remember |
anamandujano |
Jan-30-08 01:03 PM |
#93 |