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In 1972 a philosophy professor put a .45 automatic Colt to my head and said ..
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"Defend your existence!"

In retrospect, he was trying to jolt me out of a quasi-suicidal, post Vietnam funk. We were studying Kant at the time, and I had just submitted a required paper that said only" "I kant! I kant!"

He called me to his office for a consultation. Hence the gun-play episode, which changed my life. His too, probably.

I defended for two hours. Specious syllogisms from me got a cocked gun from him. Was he serious with the .45? I don't know. In the end, I said what he wanted to hear .. and it was, indeed, what I believed. The gun went into his desk drawer and the reefer came out.

Did I ever report him to university officials? No. Did I re-read and re-write the assignment on Kant? Yes. Did I clean up my post-Vietnam act and quit feeling sorry for myself? Yes.

I tell this story as a part of a collection I will tell over the next few days. Stream-of-consciousness (perhaps) leading into the 40th anniversary of the 1968 Tet Offensive (1/31/1968).

Mac
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  In 1972 a philosophy professor put a .45 automatic Colt to my head and said .. DemoTex  Jan-28-08 08:39 PM   #0 
   Deeee ammmn.  lonestarnot   Jan-28-08 08:40 PM   #1 
   Wow. I used to bitch about my social ethics prof.  mycritters2   Jan-28-08 08:41 PM   #2 
   Wow... just WOW.  alittlelark   Jan-28-08 08:41 PM   #3 
   Why did I never have profs like that?  Sabriel   Jan-28-08 08:41 PM   #4 
   Professional Philosopher, You Say, Sir....  The Magistrate   Jan-28-08 08:42 PM   #5 
   Why do you always say that "sir" and "madame" monkey business?  King Coal   Jan-28-08 09:26 PM   #22 
      If Your Highness Is Pleased  The Magistrate   Jan-28-08 09:57 PM   #24 
      ROFLMAO!  hootinholler   Jan-29-08 12:30 AM   #45 
      Insulting??  Saboburns   Jan-28-08 10:25 PM   #26 
      No, it is deferential regard.  dmr   Jan-28-08 11:33 PM   #35 
      He does it because he is The Magistrate, Sir, and a Confucian when it comes to formality.  Hekate   Jan-29-08 12:20 AM   #42 
      Do not fuck with the Magistrate  alcibiades_mystery   Jan-29-08 01:19 AM   #50 
      Being the word police is insulting too  BoneDaddy   Jan-29-08 04:54 AM   #56 
      Insulting To Whom?  ProfessorGAC   Jan-29-08 06:06 AM   #58 
      Only if you interpret it as insulting.  RandomKoolzip   Jan-29-08 10:31 AM   #61 
      It use to bug me too as a lurker, then I discovered Magistrate is awesome. :)  Political Heretic   Jan-29-08 08:14 PM   #75 
         Me too. Most people doing that are just being smarmy and sarcastic.  ieoeja   Jan-30-08 01:38 PM   #94 
   I'm a university faculty member, and I do say, there are some weird folks in the business.  CLW   Jan-28-08 08:46 PM   #6 
   well,yeah, because today's student would have called mommy on his cell phone,  Iris   Jan-29-08 06:58 PM   #66 
   Ha! You're so right. My colleagues who teach undergraduates have tales  CLW   Jan-29-08 08:16 PM   #76 
   Hopefully they will stay off your lawn, too.  AngryAmish   Jan-30-08 10:03 AM   #88 
   Strange bunch on those campus's.  R_M   Jan-30-08 12:24 AM   #84 
   They all do that.  gulliver   Jan-28-08 08:47 PM   #7 
   lol!. . . n/t  annabanana   Jan-28-08 10:51 PM   #34 
   in that case, I'd ask for the gun [n/t]  stranger81   Jan-29-08 01:30 AM   #51 
   More please...  shrdlu   Jan-28-08 08:47 PM   #8 
   No more to that story. Other than an "A" at the quarter's end.  DemoTex   Jan-28-08 09:37 PM   #23 
   Was he a vet?  WilliamPitt   Jan-28-08 08:47 PM   #9 
   No. He was not a vet. BTW: It was at Auburn.  DemoTex   Jan-28-08 09:14 PM   #16 
   I had a Staff Sergeant point a .45 at my head.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jan-28-08 08:48 PM   #10 
   I had a medic accidentally fire his .45 when he was cleaning it.  tabasco   Jan-29-08 07:40 PM   #73 
   Oh, that was you?  Lex   Jan-28-08 08:48 PM   #11 
   No! Thanks!  DemoTex   Jan-28-08 09:17 PM   #18 
   Not exactly how you thought the consultation would go, huh?  Joe Fields   Jan-28-08 08:49 PM   #12 
   I hate when that happens  NNN0LHI   Jan-28-08 08:52 PM   #13 
   Was he a Jesuit? (Sounds like one.)  TahitiNut   Jan-28-08 08:53 PM   #14 
   Nope. Just a fairly cool Alabama redneck at Auburn.  DemoTex   Jan-28-08 09:18 PM   #19 
   That definitely qualifies as an event that leaves a life-long impression.  scarletwoman   Jan-28-08 08:57 PM   #15 
   Don't Waste That Story Here on DU  Yavin4   Jan-28-08 09:15 PM   #17 
   Damn good idea!  DemoTex   Jan-28-08 09:20 PM   #20 
   I'm Serious  Yavin4   Jan-30-08 01:18 AM   #86 
   What a great premise - DEFEND YOUR EXISTENCE!  UncleSepp   Jan-29-08 06:03 AM   #57 
   Christopher Walken as the prof.  Hardrada   Jan-29-08 06:15 PM   #64 
      SNORT!  crispini   Jan-30-08 10:15 AM   #90 
      He Should Get The Role, Sir, No Question  The Magistrate   Jan-30-08 12:05 PM   #92 
   Cool. I'll be reading that.  King Coal   Jan-28-08 09:23 PM   #21 
   K & R.  BleedingHeartPatriot   Jan-28-08 10:12 PM   #25 
   was it loaded?  QuestionAll   Jan-28-08 10:28 PM   #27 
   Rule #1: Every gun is always loaded  slackmaster   Jan-29-08 07:02 PM   #67 
      i think there's also a rule about a professor putting a guns to a student's head...  QuestionAll   Jan-29-08 07:39 PM   #72 
         The rules I stated are for safe firearm handling  slackmaster   Jan-29-08 08:29 PM   #77 
            well- you didn't specify that, now did you?  QuestionAll   Jan-29-08 08:34 PM   #78 
               If you refuse to learn gun safety, you are potentially a part of the problem  slackmaster   Jan-30-08 10:00 AM   #87 
   Please put your collection in your Journal so I don't miss any of it.  annabanana   Jan-28-08 10:28 PM   #28 
   Done Anna!  DemoTex   Jan-29-08 09:47 PM   #81 
   All I have to say is  Prisoner_Number_Six   Jan-28-08 10:31 PM   #29 
   What conversation did you have ...  Martin Eden   Jan-28-08 10:31 PM   #30 
   A little "tough philosophical love", eh?  Canuckistanian   Jan-28-08 10:33 PM   #31 
   Damn...  herbster   Jan-28-08 10:36 PM   #32 
   Sounds like he wanted to hear you give a Critique of Pure Insanity.  MilesColtrane   Jan-28-08 10:50 PM   #33 
   Don't you mean .45 semi-automatic Colt? n/t  MiltonF   Jan-28-08 11:37 PM   #36 
   "automatic" as in "autoloading"  krispos42DU Moderator   Jan-29-08 03:07 AM   #55 
   Philosophy professors are a breed apart  eridani   Jan-28-08 11:42 PM   #37 
   That, Ma'am, Is A Thing Of Beauty....  The Magistrate   Jan-29-08 02:03 AM   #54 
   Holy cow! You have a screenplay started there. Can't wait for your others.  Neshanic   Jan-28-08 11:44 PM   #38 
   Real life... damn it was a kick-in-the-ass  BushDespiser12   Jan-28-08 11:44 PM   #39 
   Holy Gods!  knight_of_the_star   Jan-28-08 11:56 PM   #40 
   i woulda got shot. n/t  iamthebandfanman   Jan-29-08 12:16 AM   #41 
   Don't make them like they used to or  burrowowl   Jan-29-08 12:23 AM   #43 
   Holy shit. Please do continue.  Hekate   Jan-29-08 12:26 AM   #44 
   Write those stories, DemoTex!  Bozita   Jan-29-08 12:31 AM   #46 
   Stand by!  DemoTex   Jan-29-08 08:09 PM   #74 
   Syllogisms vs. a .45- sounds fair. n/t  bluedawg12   Jan-29-08 12:33 AM   #47 
   Looking forward to you recounting your memories  mrsteve   Jan-29-08 12:40 AM   #48 
   We only get issued a Glock 9mm; but we're a tier 3 institution...n/t  herbster   Jan-29-08 01:14 AM   #49 
   There goes my major  Tuesday Afternoon   Jan-29-08 01:39 AM   #52 
   Sphincter Factor 9.85  BadGimp   Jan-29-08 02:01 AM   #53 
   It took you two hours to defend your existance?  joshcryer   Jan-29-08 06:28 AM   #59 
   You had to be there.  DemoTex   Jan-29-08 07:37 PM   #70 
   today he'd be given a psychiatric eval and a pink slip  Generic Other   Jan-29-08 08:20 AM   #60 
   Holy Shit, Mac!  Cooley Hurd   Jan-29-08 05:42 PM   #62 
   Military I/Ps (instructor pilots) would hit their students over the head with clipboards.  DemoTex   Jan-29-08 07:32 PM   #69 
   Maybe it was loaded with those "bouncy bullets". n/t  LoZoccolo   Jan-29-08 05:52 PM   #63 
   Do you still have his contact number  grantcart   Jan-29-08 06:52 PM   #65 
   Thank you for your service and for the interesting story.  conservdem   Jan-29-08 07:17 PM   #68 
   The Deer Hunter wasn't out till '78/79, so it couldn't be copycatting that.  UTUSN   Jan-29-08 07:39 PM   #71 
   Having just returned from an environment of extreme violence, I was an easy mark (perhaps).  DemoTex   Jan-29-08 09:37 PM   #79 
      Thanks for not taking offense & responding thoughtfully. I didn't intend offense to you.  UTUSN   Jan-30-08 10:04 AM   #89 
   Ah... one of my favorite Red Dwarf episodes  FlyingSquirrel   Jan-29-08 09:45 PM   #80 
   #1 reason why gun ownership should be mandatory  The Inquisitive   Jan-29-08 11:50 PM   #82 
   When do we get the story?  burrowowl   Jan-29-08 11:56 PM   #83 
   this thread is gonna be stewing in the awesome sauce!  Blue_Tires   Jan-30-08 12:34 AM   #85 
   Had he done that to me....  Iggo   Jan-30-08 10:20 AM   #91 
   Sounds like a spiritual teaching story. I can't remember  anamandujano   Jan-30-08 01:03 PM   #93 
 

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