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Sat Jan-26-08 06:39 PM
Response to Reply #6 |
| -What say should a 12 yr old have? |
uppityperson |
Jan-26-08 04:54 PM |
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The wishes of 12 YOs are taken into consideration in custody cases. |
Maddy McCall |
Jan-26-08 04:55 PM |
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What if he/she wants to pierce their face? |
uppityperson |
Jan-26-08 04:57 PM |
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The 12 YO should have the right to HALT a cosmetic procedure. |
Maddy McCall |
Jan-26-08 04:59 PM |
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I agree. What if a 12 yr old wants to? |
uppityperson |
Jan-26-08 05:00 PM |
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Then parents can give permission. |
Maddy McCall |
Jan-26-08 05:04 PM |
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And what if 1 parent says yes, 1 no? See post #21 &28 |
uppityperson |
Jan-26-08 05:07 PM |
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Then the child's wishes should be paramount in the decision. |
Maddy McCall |
Jan-26-08 05:19 PM |
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If your 12 yr old really really wanted a tattoo, and you said no, and other parent said yes |
uppityperson |
Jan-26-08 05:22 PM |
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Then I would assume that the parents are stupid for using the child as a pawn... |
Maddy McCall |
Jan-26-08 05:26 PM |
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on this particular situation, it should be the 12-year olds choice |
NYCALIZ |
Jan-26-08 04:56 PM |
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Well, here's my opinion. |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-26-08 04:57 PM |
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I am glad we have Mercer to give us balance. |
uppityperson |
Jan-26-08 04:59 PM |
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Ah, siglines: the hazards of carrying a discussion over from another thread. |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-26-08 05:00 PM |
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If it is cosmetic how will it be paid? Force the parent to pay for it? |
LiberalFighter |
Jan-26-08 06:11 PM |
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This would be like forcing the boy to have his ears pierced. It should be his decision. |
GodlessBiker |
Jan-26-08 04:57 PM |
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What if a 12 yr old wants to? Should it be his decision? |
uppityperson |
Jan-26-08 05:02 PM |
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Nope. It has to do with changing the status quo. The change needs his permission. |
GodlessBiker |
Jan-26-08 05:04 PM |
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Good point. That seems to be the sticking issue with many of us. |
uppityperson |
Jan-26-08 05:08 PM |
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Do you bump into a lot of 12 YO boys who want to get circumcised? |
karlrschneider |
Jan-26-08 06:27 PM |
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You are replying to my reply to getting ears pierced. |
uppityperson |
Jan-26-08 06:34 PM |
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FOR EVERYONE INTENDING ON POSTING IN THIS THREAD: |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-26-08 04:58 PM |
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Thank you. |
uppityperson |
Jan-26-08 06:39 PM |
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Yes, it's the boy's choice. It's his body. |
bluestateguy |
Jan-26-08 04:58 PM |
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Is circumcision plastic surgery now? Who knew? |
dkf |
Jan-26-08 04:59 PM |
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It's similar to forcing a 12 year old to get an abortion |
quantessd |
Jan-26-08 04:59 PM |
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Why worse? |
Teaser |
Jan-26-08 05:02 PM |
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I agree; the quick and generally clean removal |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-26-08 05:04 PM |
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Actually, abortion is safer than childbirth. |
quantessd |
Jan-26-08 05:53 PM |
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If you want to restrict the debate to 12 year olds' decisions... |
Touchdown |
Jan-27-08 01:43 PM |
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It's my personal feeling that no 12 year old should have a baby |
quantessd |
Jan-26-08 05:29 PM |
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I have no opinions on what's best for other people |
Teaser |
Jan-26-08 10:36 PM |
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What if a 12 yr old wants to? |
uppityperson |
Jan-26-08 05:02 PM |
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I wonder, in states with "parental consent" or "parental notification" |
quantessd |
Jan-26-08 06:04 PM |
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How would you force a 12 year old to get an abortion? |
uppityperson |
Jan-26-08 06:31 PM |
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I'm wondering the same. |
quantessd |
Jan-26-08 08:39 PM |
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She could run away for a bit, or some such. |
uppityperson |
Jan-26-08 08:51 PM |
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I would think about it like piercings. If he says no, then it's not happening. |
TheFriendlyAnarchist |
Jan-26-08 04:59 PM |
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Yep. |
otherlander |
Jan-26-08 05:58 PM |
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When the 12 yo is facing possible damage or undue risk |
Hydra |
Jan-26-08 05:00 PM |
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The boy doesn't want his dad's new religion. |
aquart |
Jan-26-08 05:00 PM |
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Not asking about religion but is a 12 yr old capable of making a yes/no decision? |
uppityperson |
Jan-26-08 05:05 PM |
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It shouldn't be forced on any boy at any age. |
Radical Activist |
Jan-26-08 05:02 PM |
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While I understand the point, I think that such a stance removes the distinction between |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-26-08 05:06 PM |
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the fact that a baby is completely defenseless and unable to object |
Radical Activist |
Jan-26-08 05:08 PM |
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A 12 year old should have the right to deny a cosmetic surgery but not |
cgrindley |
Jan-26-08 05:21 PM |
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I agree. |
uppityperson |
Jan-26-08 05:22 PM |
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Okay, how about this? |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-26-08 05:33 PM |
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In this case, is status quo a scar? How about a child who has a scar? |
uppityperson |
Jan-26-08 05:36 PM |
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There is no status quo; status quo is an unhealed wound. The situation |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-26-08 05:38 PM |
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I don't think that meets the standard for cosmetic surgery |
cgrindley |
Jan-26-08 05:38 PM |
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I think that belongs in the same silly hypothetical drawer as the folks who will marry box turtles |
impeachdubya |
Jan-26-08 06:44 PM |
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Ooow. |
ismnotwasm |
Jan-26-08 05:22 PM |
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I think 12 is quite old enough to refuse any unnecessary |
Warpy |
Jan-26-08 05:31 PM |
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When I was about ten, my mother gave the okay for a doctor to |
BuyingThyme |
Jan-26-08 05:36 PM |
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What say should a woman have in circumcision? |
TahitiNut |
Jan-26-08 05:39 PM |
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Ah, ah, ah. 12 yr old rights. |
uppityperson |
Jan-26-08 05:40 PM |
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I've faced this scenario, sort of |
cheryl27 |
Jan-26-08 06:10 PM |
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That's fine |
LiberalFighter |
Jan-26-08 06:16 PM |
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If he wanted it |
cheryl27 |
Jan-26-08 06:35 PM |
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They've Been Arguing Over This for Three Years - Kid Doesn't Want It. Court Ruling Is Here! |
Crisco |
Jan-26-08 06:24 PM |
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If 12 yr old WANTS circumcision, is DU consensus that it's ok? |
uppityperson |
Jan-26-08 06:43 PM |
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Yes n/t |
cheryl27 |
Jan-26-08 07:13 PM |
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Yeah, But |
Crisco |
Jan-26-08 10:41 PM |
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There's a difference -a big one- between initiating something and refusing it. |
impeachdubya |
Jan-26-08 06:36 PM |
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A 12 year old should not have to undergo cosmetic surgery |
LWolf |
Jan-26-08 06:39 PM |
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My God, what will they do to the poor kid if the court rules in the father's favor? |
Withywindle |
Jan-26-08 06:40 PM |
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If it rules in dad's favor, it means court decided kid says yes. |
uppityperson |
Jan-26-08 06:44 PM |
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Depends on the maturity of the child.. Our son decided on surgery when he was 8 |
SoCalDem |
Jan-26-08 07:25 PM |
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Wow |
uppityperson |
Jan-26-08 07:33 PM |
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Yep.. he's 34 now, married, successful |
SoCalDem |
Jan-26-08 07:38 PM |
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just because the father converted to judaism... |
QuestionAll |
Jan-26-08 07:36 PM |
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No doctor should perform elective surgery... |
Orsino |
Jan-26-08 07:43 PM |
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Both parents? All guardians? |
uppityperson |
Jan-26-08 08:49 PM |
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I'd include only parents with legal custody. |
Orsino |
Jan-27-08 06:28 AM |
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Many 12yos have shouldered adult responsibilities. So they should have a huge say |
bean fidhleir |
Jan-27-08 06:33 AM |
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It's the 12 y/o's body. He's got to live the rest of his life with the decision. |
Touchdown |
Jan-27-08 01:35 PM |
#74 |
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