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Rights ONLY exist as enforced legal constructs. If no one enforces them, they don't exist. If they're not codified and not enforced, they don't exist. RIghts, historically, have never approached the demands that one would want for a characterization as "inalienable," even in the minds of the men who framed this country's constitution. Unless you're arguing for some bizarre strict constructionalist point of view which sort of puts you at odds with progressivism.
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| -Do you feel that abortion is a moral issue? |
IndianaJones |
Jan-22-08 03:54 PM |
#0 |
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It is a private matter between the woman |
HockeyMom |
Jan-22-08 03:56 PM |
#1 |
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That wasn't the question, though. |
yibbehobba |
Jan-22-08 04:49 PM |
#30 |
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Self delete. Dupe. |
yibbehobba |
Jan-22-08 04:51 PM |
#31 |
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That's just so wrong on so many levels |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 05:50 PM |
#46 |
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just because people can not legally |
Djinn |
Jan-22-08 07:05 PM |
#75 |
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The question, of course, is whether aborting a fetus |
maui9002 |
Jan-22-08 08:11 PM |
#93 |
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nope |
Djinn |
Jan-22-08 10:14 PM |
#227 |
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That doesn't actually make sense |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 08:20 PM |
#96 |
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*You* are at odd with progressivism. |
Lars39 |
Jan-22-08 08:34 PM |
#100 |
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Well... I like things nicely organized |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 08:37 PM |
#102 |
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in other words |
Djinn |
Jan-22-08 10:23 PM |
#239 |
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So you're claiming that |
Djinn |
Jan-22-08 10:19 PM |
#234 |
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Personal issue |
Lithos |
Jan-22-08 03:57 PM |
#2 |
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Whose morals? |
zanne |
Jan-22-08 03:57 PM |
#3 |
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Well either way its a moral issue |
DadOf2LittleAngels |
Jan-22-08 03:59 PM |
#5 |
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And where do you fall? nt |
zanne |
Jan-22-08 04:17 PM |
#14 |
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It's a legal issue... |
SidDithers |
Jan-22-08 03:58 PM |
#4 |
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I think the IWR is a moral issue. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-22-08 04:00 PM |
#6 |
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It's a privacy issue |
maxanne |
Jan-22-08 04:00 PM |
#7 |
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It's a personal issue |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jan-22-08 04:08 PM |
#8 |
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Why do people always say it's between a woman and |
Yupster |
Jan-22-08 08:44 PM |
#108 |
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I've used that phrase when defending the right to an abortion |
maui9002 |
Jan-22-08 09:03 PM |
#138 |
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Whoops |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jan-22-08 09:56 PM |
#198 |
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I wasn't suggesting she needs "permission" from anybody |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jan-22-08 09:53 PM |
#189 |
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Other: I have no uterus, so I have no say in the matter |
NightWatcher |
Jan-22-08 04:13 PM |
#9 |
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I'm with you. |
tekisui |
Jan-22-08 04:14 PM |
#11 |
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There is no moral issue until the fetus is viable. Until that time it is no more a moral issue than |
sinkingfeeling |
Jan-22-08 04:14 PM |
#10 |
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It's a moral issue, not a political one. |
MrCoffee |
Jan-22-08 04:15 PM |
#12 |
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How is it a moral issue? Please explain. |
sinkingfeeling |
Jan-22-08 04:31 PM |
#19 |
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I believe it's a moral issue for those who choose to have one |
MrCoffee |
Jan-22-08 05:10 PM |
#41 |
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The decision to have an abortion is not morally "right or wrong" |
Horse with no Name |
Jan-22-08 06:42 PM |
#66 |
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No. Not A Moral Issue At All |
querelle |
Jan-22-08 04:16 PM |
#13 |
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It's a moral issue in the same way that adultery is a moral issue |
XemaSab |
Jan-22-08 04:18 PM |
#15 |
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Privacy |
libnnc |
Jan-22-08 04:18 PM |
#16 |
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Let's link these 2 polls: |
Lars39 |
Jan-22-08 04:20 PM |
#17 |
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Moral as in the moral thing to do is mind your own business about what choices a woman makes n/t |
gollygee |
Jan-22-08 04:22 PM |
#18 |
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Other |
Terran |
Jan-22-08 04:34 PM |
#20 |
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Fair Enough. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jan-22-08 04:35 PM |
#23 |
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I was thinking along those lines. Sometimes it's a survival issue. |
Iris |
Jan-22-08 05:12 PM |
#42 |
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absolutely not. |
spanone |
Jan-22-08 04:34 PM |
#21 |
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it depends on the person, I guess. |
FLDem5 |
Jan-22-08 04:34 PM |
#22 |
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Which of these definitions |
kdmorris |
Jan-22-08 04:37 PM |
#24 |
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It's a PRIVATE issue |
supernova |
Jan-22-08 04:41 PM |
#25 |
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No-one's business but the woman and her doctor. |
yy4me |
Jan-22-08 04:42 PM |
#26 |
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It's a none of your fucking business issue |
Solly Mack |
Jan-22-08 04:44 PM |
#27 |
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Isn't "none of your business" a moral value? n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jan-22-08 04:57 PM |
#36 |
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How so? |
Solly Mack |
Jan-22-08 04:58 PM |
#38 |
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Do I have a moral obligation to stay out of your business, absent a compelling reason? |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jan-22-08 06:33 PM |
#58 |
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Do you? You are attributing a *moral* value to it |
Solly Mack |
Jan-22-08 07:08 PM |
#77 |
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It doesn't matter how people "view" things |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 08:10 PM |
#92 |
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Oh - absolutely |
Solly Mack |
Jan-22-08 08:49 PM |
#113 |
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Well, they aren't |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 08:50 PM |
#118 |
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HALLO! |
Karenina |
Jan-22-08 05:03 PM |
#39 |
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Do you feel the government should be legislating morality? |
RandomKoolzip |
Jan-22-08 04:47 PM |
#28 |
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Yes, I do. |
spoony |
Jan-22-08 04:58 PM |
#37 |
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I don't see that as morality, I see it as common sense. |
RandomKoolzip |
Jan-22-08 06:00 PM |
#51 |
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Well, I think it's immoral but I'm glad it's legal |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 04:49 PM |
#29 |
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I'm sorry, but that is inane |
kdmorris |
Jan-22-08 04:51 PM |
#32 |
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Yes, my position *is* immoral, but I don't care, we should be able to kill |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 05:48 PM |
#45 |
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Of course it is. Very few issues of consequence are not moral issues. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jan-22-08 04:56 PM |
#33 |
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Of course it's a moral issue. |
yibbehobba |
Jan-22-08 04:56 PM |
#34 |
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I still think defining it as moral lies with the individual woman. |
Iris |
Jan-22-08 05:14 PM |
#43 |
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That can be said of just about any issue. |
yibbehobba |
Jan-22-08 06:13 PM |
#55 |
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Yup. (sorry for the short answer, but just yup) |
uppityperson |
Jan-22-08 06:35 PM |
#59 |
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but that doesn't rule out that it could simply be just a decision |
Iris |
Jan-22-08 06:52 PM |
#70 |
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actually you probably do |
Djinn |
Jan-22-08 07:09 PM |
#79 |
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Yes, well said! nt |
JerseygirlCT |
Jan-22-08 08:16 PM |
#95 |
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its only when i moved to america did i realize that abortion and evolution were considered |
lionesspriyanka |
Jan-22-08 04:57 PM |
#35 |
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Why, were you living on Mars? |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 06:46 PM |
#67 |
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no, i lived in india where neither a medical decision nor a scientific one had moral connotations |
lionesspriyanka |
Jan-22-08 07:02 PM |
#74 |
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I don't think you know what "moral" means... and I also call bullshit |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 08:01 PM |
#86 |
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just because something contradicts your limited worldview doesnt make it bullshit |
lionesspriyanka |
Jan-22-08 08:48 PM |
#112 |
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I just cited an article that directly contradicts your claims |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 08:55 PM |
#127 |
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wrong |
Djinn |
Jan-22-08 07:13 PM |
#80 |
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Prove it |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 07:56 PM |
#85 |
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Then what were the issues called, if I may ask for your perspective? |
HypnoToad |
Jan-22-08 09:07 PM |
#142 |
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selective abortion is a feminist issue which is a very different debate from aborrtion is murder. |
lionesspriyanka |
Jan-22-08 10:00 PM |
#206 |
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abortion is a medical procedure, which is PRIVATE between |
Scout |
Jan-22-08 05:04 PM |
#40 |
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But it really isn't, though... you know that, right? |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 05:52 PM |
#47 |
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of course i do.... |
Scout |
Jan-22-08 05:57 PM |
#49 |
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But you just said you did, but then you wrote something else... |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 06:19 PM |
#56 |
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"the woman doesn't actually get much of a say" What? |
uppityperson |
Jan-22-08 06:35 PM |
#60 |
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You heard me... starting in the second trimester and more so in the third |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 06:40 PM |
#63 |
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Just for your info because you seem to be ill informed |
Horse with no Name |
Jan-22-08 06:47 PM |
#68 |
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Of course partial birth abortions exist... doctors just don't use that term |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 08:05 PM |
#87 |
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Jan-22-08 08:08 PM |
#89 |
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Of course the act exists... arguing over terminology is stupid |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 08:13 PM |
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Jan-22-08 08:25 PM |
#97 |
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If I call a diamond a LOONSTONE, it's still the same substance |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 08:31 PM |
#99 |
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Calling abortion murder does not belong on a progressive website |
Horse with no Name |
Jan-22-08 08:37 PM |
#103 |
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I support abortion rights... that's all I owe progressivism |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 08:41 PM |
#105 |
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You're mealy-mouthed. |
Lars39 |
Jan-22-08 08:44 PM |
#106 |
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Please be civil... supporting abortion and believing that the act is distasteful |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 08:47 PM |
#111 |
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It's hard to believe a jewel such as yourself has been divorced by at least 2 women. |
Hoof Hearted |
Jan-22-08 09:00 PM |
#133 |
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That's uncalled for |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 09:03 PM |
#137 |
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Supporting abortion and telling women, some who have had abortions, it's distasteful? |
LynneSin |
Jan-22-08 09:54 PM |
#191 |
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Abortion is distasteful |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 09:56 PM |
#195 |
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Oh, so you've downgraded to 'distasteful' huh |
LynneSin |
Jan-22-08 09:59 PM |
#204 |
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Okay... it's gross and disgusting |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 10:04 PM |
#213 |
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Repeat after me if you want me to back off: IT'S A PERSONAL CHOICE |
LynneSin |
Jan-22-08 10:07 PM |
#218 |
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Repeat after me... the legal system sez differently |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 10:12 PM |
#224 |
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There is a problem with that. |
uppityperson |
Jan-22-08 10:25 PM |
#242 |
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murder is "distasteful"? |
uppityperson |
Jan-22-08 10:23 PM |
#240 |
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Jesus, could you possibly fit any more RW code terms in your post? |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jan-22-08 08:47 PM |
#110 |
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BE CIVIL. |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 08:49 PM |
#114 |
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you COULD use the term 'late term abortion' or can't you wrap your |
FLDem5 |
Jan-22-08 08:50 PM |
#120 |
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Actually, that's fine by me... I apologize for not thinking of it... but |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 08:52 PM |
#122 |
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STOP YELLING |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jan-22-08 09:48 PM |
#182 |
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Indeed. n/t |
Horse with no Name |
Jan-22-08 08:49 PM |
#115 |
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Murder is illegal killing with malice aforethought. |
FLDem5 |
Jan-22-08 08:50 PM |
#116 |
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Manslaughter then |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 08:54 PM |
#124 |
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Deleted message |
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Jan-22-08 08:57 PM |
#130 |
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So you are incapable of being polite? |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 09:04 PM |
#139 |
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try again, Sunshine... |
FLDem5 |
Jan-22-08 08:59 PM |
#132 |
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Ahhh but my wiki is too strong for you... |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 09:06 PM |
#140 |
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so now you are equating abortion with justifiable homicide?! |
FLDem5 |
Jan-22-08 09:13 PM |
#154 |
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Not now... that's ALWAYS been my position |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 09:14 PM |
#155 |
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No... your position was that it was murder. Then that it was manslaughter. |
FLDem5 |
Jan-22-08 09:16 PM |
#157 |
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Whatever word you want to use for the deliberate taking of a life is fine by me |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 09:19 PM |
#160 |
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I don't know - a human life to me denotes a certain degree of independance |
FLDem5 |
Jan-22-08 09:29 PM |
#169 |
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That's a pretty specific definition of human life |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 09:38 PM |
#175 |
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Abortion is deliberate. |
ChazII |
Jan-22-08 09:56 PM |
#196 |
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Actually no it's not Abortion is more common than you think |
LynneSin |
Jan-22-08 10:01 PM |
#210 |
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And D&C's are routinely performed following an incomplete miscarriage (nt) |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 10:06 PM |
#216 |
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Good point. n/t |
ChazII |
Jan-22-08 09:45 PM |
#180 |
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Frankly, it is a private matter... |
vmaus |
Jan-22-08 08:54 PM |
#123 |
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Two points |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 08:56 PM |
#129 |
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I disagree on your first point. |
vmaus |
Jan-22-08 09:23 PM |
#163 |
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That's YOUR opinion |
LynneSin |
Jan-22-08 08:54 PM |
#125 |
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Right on... those things are murder |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 08:58 PM |
#131 |
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Ah - I see - you're a guy. Sure, easy enough for you to say those things |
LynneSin |
Jan-22-08 09:06 PM |
#141 |
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TRY READING MY POSTS... I SUPPORT ABORTION RIGHTS |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 09:09 PM |
#146 |
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You call it murder and taking a life |
LynneSin |
Jan-22-08 09:12 PM |
#152 |
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I support animal rights, but I still eat meat |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 09:15 PM |
#156 |
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Thank you - you just proved my point to your flawed thinking |
LynneSin |
Jan-22-08 09:24 PM |
#164 |
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So you also support animal rights and eat burgers? |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 09:27 PM |
#167 |
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Oh lordy you're a whack job |
LynneSin |
Jan-22-08 09:33 PM |
#171 |
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You support murder on demand?? That makes you a sick fuck. |
Der Blaue Engel |
Jan-22-08 08:55 PM |
#128 |
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I'm a sick fuck... at least I can admit it... |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 09:02 PM |
#136 |
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Just keep babbling, sicko n/t |
Der Blaue Engel |
Jan-22-08 09:08 PM |
#144 |
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So you never support a morally suspect position for the good of all? |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 09:10 PM |
#147 |
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Lol...sounds like the Republican platform |
Der Blaue Engel |
Jan-22-08 09:40 PM |
#177 |
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I'm pretty sure that have and do support positions that you personally |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 09:57 PM |
#199 |
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Will you please stop attributing your motives to me? |
Der Blaue Engel |
Jan-22-08 10:47 PM |
#258 |
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Is it "murder" to have an unwanted child and make that child |
texastoast |
Jan-22-08 09:00 PM |
#134 |
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Look... I SUPPORT ABORTION... I JUST DON'T LIKE IT |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 09:08 PM |
#143 |
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GOOD THEN GO FUCKING POST ON A FUNDIE ANTI-CHOICE SITE |
LynneSin |
Jan-22-08 09:34 PM |
#173 |
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BUT I'M PRO-CHOICE (NT) |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 09:39 PM |
#176 |
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No you're not. If you were you'd think your actions post this completely thru |
LynneSin |
Jan-22-08 09:44 PM |
#179 |
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But abortion is not a private matter |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 09:58 PM |
#202 |
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WE HAVE ENOUGH LAWS and it's STILL between a doctor and the PREGNANT WOMAN! |
LynneSin |
Jan-22-08 10:04 PM |
#211 |
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Ultimately, it's a legal issue, not a matter for a woman and her doctor |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 10:05 PM |
#215 |
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No, it is between a woman and her doctor. It is legislated to be up to them. |
uppityperson |
Jan-22-08 10:30 PM |
#247 |
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no you aren't, you're pro choice cafeteria style. |
chimpsrsmarter |
Jan-22-08 09:53 PM |
#190 |
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What does that mean? (nt) |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 09:55 PM |
#193 |
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you aren't pro choice, you called 3rd trimester abortions murder so your pro choice |
chimpsrsmarter |
Jan-22-08 09:57 PM |
#200 |
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That's not even remotely helpful |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 10:00 PM |
#205 |
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you're cool with it until it becomes what, icky, distasteful or until you think it can live outside |
chimpsrsmarter |
Jan-22-08 10:04 PM |
#212 |
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Chimp, I don't mean to step in here on your arguement but... |
LynneSin |
Jan-22-08 10:05 PM |
#214 |
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and he can't have it both ways, if he thinks 3rd trimester is murder than 1st must be as well so he |
chimpsrsmarter |
Jan-22-08 10:07 PM |
#217 |
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How is supporting a woman's right to choose being anti-choice? |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 10:10 PM |
#220 |
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When you call the choice that woman make as 'murder' |
LynneSin |
Jan-22-08 10:11 PM |
#223 |
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I love the fact that he can be so fricking insultive when.... |
LynneSin |
Jan-22-08 10:10 PM |
#222 |
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thats right, he will never be in that postion ever but is willing to pass judgement |
chimpsrsmarter |
Jan-22-08 10:12 PM |
#225 |
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This is what offends me the most |
LynneSin |
Jan-22-08 10:18 PM |
#230 |
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lee mercer is prochoice all the way. |
chimpsrsmarter |
Jan-22-08 10:19 PM |
#232 |
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Abortion is the ending of a human life... but that's okay by me |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 10:08 PM |
#219 |
| -
why is first trimester abortion not murder to you but 3rd is? Explain that please. |
chimpsrsmarter |
Jan-22-08 10:10 PM |
#221 |
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No... it's the taking of a human life in all trimesters... |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 10:13 PM |
#226 |
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Why is it more okay the earlier it's done? |
uppityperson |
Jan-22-08 10:31 PM |
#248 |
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You don't fricking get it - WE DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK IT IS |
LynneSin |
Jan-22-08 10:14 PM |
#228 |
| -
So you would advocate removing all laws regarding abortion? |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 10:18 PM |
#231 |
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I highly doubt we could get those laws removed |
LynneSin |
Jan-22-08 10:26 PM |
#243 |
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The woman has a say in seeking one. |
uppityperson |
Jan-22-08 06:59 PM |
#71 |
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Since the partial birth ban "changed all that," then women actually |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 08:06 PM |
#88 |
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Nobody seeks out third trimester abortions |
Horse with no Name |
Jan-22-08 08:37 PM |
#104 |
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So the ban wasn't a big deal then? |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 08:44 PM |
#107 |
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If you mean banning certain types of late abortions, no. Not a big deal. |
uppityperson |
Jan-22-08 10:32 PM |
#249 |
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Try finding a 3rd trimester abortion BEFORE that stupid rule |
LynneSin |
Jan-22-08 09:09 PM |
#145 |
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Some people here support that position |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 09:11 PM |
#150 |
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I've been here at DU long enough to known that not one DUer |
LynneSin |
Jan-22-08 09:17 PM |
#158 |
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Come on now, there have been flame wars over this |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 09:21 PM |
#161 |
| -
And you think it's just progressives that post here |
LynneSin |
Jan-22-08 09:25 PM |
#166 |
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No. They don't. More RW tripe from you. |
Horse with no Name |
Jan-22-08 09:17 PM |
#159 |
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I wish I could... I remember it like it was yesterday |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 09:22 PM |
#162 |
| -
You won't find it because it never happened |
Horse with no Name |
Jan-22-08 09:24 PM |
#165 |
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why won't you fucking well be polite? PS found it |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 09:28 PM |
#168 |
| -
Apples and oranges |
Horse with no Name |
Jan-22-08 09:55 PM |
#194 |
| -
But they were all wrong |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 10:01 PM |
#209 |
| -
Exactly. The entire legislation was a bone for the fundies to gnaw on |
Horse with no Name |
Jan-22-08 09:12 PM |
#153 |
| -
WTF is "partial birth ban"? There is no such thing. |
uppityperson |
Jan-22-08 10:19 PM |
#233 |
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what the LAW states |
Djinn |
Jan-22-08 07:17 PM |
#81 |
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Are you using the English language in some sort of new way? |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 08:08 PM |
#91 |
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let's see... |
salin |
Jan-22-08 09:33 PM |
#172 |
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Abortions are always morally wrong... it's just that sometimes things have to |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 10:16 PM |
#229 |
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The legality of: "yes"; whether or not to have one: "arguably". |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Jan-22-08 05:15 PM |
#44 |
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So the answer to the question depends on the date? |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jan-22-08 06:41 PM |
#64 |
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Absolutely. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Jan-22-08 06:49 PM |
#69 |
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On what basis? |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jan-22-08 07:00 PM |
#72 |
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Self-awareness. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Jan-22-08 07:07 PM |
#76 |
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Other, question is too vague. Is choice of breakfast food moral?... |
uppityperson |
Jan-22-08 05:56 PM |
#48 |
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Many times it's an economic issue. n/t |
Blue_In_AK |
Jan-22-08 05:57 PM |
#50 |
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Thinking further, of COURSE it's a moral issue. Read on... |
uppityperson |
Jan-22-08 06:01 PM |
#52 |
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Yes. And you can't legislate morality. |
Canuckistanian |
Jan-22-08 06:06 PM |
#53 |
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Now, that's what I call irony (nt) |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 06:41 PM |
#65 |
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Also true. |
HypnoToad |
Jan-22-08 09:11 PM |
#151 |
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I think that depends on the woman. |
BlackVelvet04 |
Jan-22-08 06:10 PM |
#54 |
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No |
krabigirl |
Jan-22-08 06:20 PM |
#57 |
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Inherently, no. It is NOT a moral issue |
Horse with no Name |
Jan-22-08 06:38 PM |
#61 |
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See... that just doesn't make sense |
cgrindley |
Jan-22-08 08:26 PM |
#98 |
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I replied "Other" |
MrsMatt |
Jan-22-08 06:38 PM |
#62 |
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yes...............nt |
michreject |
Jan-22-08 07:01 PM |
#73 |
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I don't believe in morals |
Jed Dilligan |
Jan-22-08 07:09 PM |
#78 |
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No |
ismnotwasm |
Jan-22-08 07:25 PM |
#82 |
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The abortion issue raises serious questions. |
I work for workers |
Jan-22-08 07:30 PM |
#83 |
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It is a HEALTH and PRIVACY issue, period. Anybody who says differently has a BIBLE to sell you. |
Hoof Hearted |
Jan-22-08 07:34 PM |
#84 |
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Somehow I doubt this one has a Bible to sell. |
spoony |
Jan-22-08 10:22 PM |
#238 |
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On a personal level, of course |
JerseygirlCT |
Jan-22-08 08:08 PM |
#90 |
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Morals should have nothing to do with either way. If anything, it's a medical issue. n/t |
LibInTexas |
Jan-22-08 08:34 PM |
#101 |
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I think it is.. |
sendero |
Jan-22-08 08:45 PM |
#109 |
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Decisions made between a woman and her doctor........... |
tyedyeto |
Jan-22-08 08:50 PM |
#117 |
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no n/t |
Skittles |
Jan-22-08 08:50 PM |
#119 |
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Yes, of course it is. |
baldguy |
Jan-22-08 08:52 PM |
#121 |
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Thank you, baldguy. |
Lars39 |
Jan-22-08 08:55 PM |
#126 |
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And is it moral to say only those rich enough to afford to pay private doctors can have safe abortio |
uppityperson |
Jan-22-08 10:35 PM |
#251 |
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A more basic question: |
HypnoToad |
Jan-22-08 09:02 PM |
#135 |
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uhh.... duh ? |
teleharmonium |
Jan-22-08 09:11 PM |
#148 |
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I believe it's a private choice and I believe it should not be legislated by MEN who will never |
LynneSin |
Jan-22-08 09:11 PM |
#149 |
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Yes - I believe it is immoral. |
Midwestern Democrat |
Jan-22-08 09:32 PM |
#170 |
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and in the case of rape or incest? |
chimpsrsmarter |
Jan-22-08 09:37 PM |
#174 |
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I would favor permitting abortion in those circumstances, as well as |
Midwestern Democrat |
Jan-22-08 09:56 PM |
#197 |
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Again - another man making a choice over something that will never happen to him |
LynneSin |
Jan-22-08 09:58 PM |
#203 |
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i have no business making someone's choice for them and neither does anyone else. |
chimpsrsmarter |
Jan-22-08 10:01 PM |
#207 |
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oh yeah thanks for "Permitting" something thats already permissible under the law. |
chimpsrsmarter |
Jan-22-08 10:21 PM |
#236 |
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So why is it ok in cases of rape or incest? |
uppityperson |
Jan-22-08 10:37 PM |
#253 |
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Welcome to DU, I hope you enjoy your short stay |
Saint Etienne17 |
Jan-22-08 09:48 PM |
#181 |
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Here is the critical point/question: |
salin |
Jan-22-08 09:50 PM |
#183 |
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Ironically posted by another MAN |
LynneSin |
Jan-22-08 09:50 PM |
#186 |
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Yes. Anyone who thinks they have a right to take over |
ThomCat |
Jan-22-08 09:43 PM |
#178 |
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Riddle me this: |
Perragrande |
Jan-22-08 10:01 PM |
#208 |
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What does this have to do with the OP? |
ThomCat |
Jan-22-08 10:20 PM |
#235 |
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Sounds like a vindictive, uncaring person. |
uppityperson |
Jan-22-08 10:38 PM |
#254 |
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I'm male. Therefore, it's none of my fucking business. |
Redstone |
Jan-22-08 09:50 PM |
#184 |
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Thank you, Redstone! |
Suich |
Jan-22-08 09:53 PM |
#187 |
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I vote you the smartest man ever in DU |
LynneSin |
Jan-22-08 09:53 PM |
#188 |
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win! |
chimpsrsmarter |
Jan-22-08 09:55 PM |
#192 |
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I disagree, because as long as other men are anti-choice |
ThomCat |
Jan-22-08 10:22 PM |
#237 |
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You didn't understand what I was saying. |
Redstone |
Jan-22-08 10:25 PM |
#241 |
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I do. You're saying it shouldn't be any man's business. |
ThomCat |
Jan-22-08 10:28 PM |
#244 |
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No. That's not what I said. |
Redstone |
Jan-22-08 10:30 PM |
#246 |
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I'm open to an elaboration. |
ThomCat |
Jan-22-08 10:33 PM |
#250 |
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No, I'm too tired. Figure it out for yourself, if you don't mind. |
Redstone |
Jan-22-08 10:40 PM |
#256 |
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Thom - I don't think Redstone meant he doens't support our fight for choice |
LynneSin |
Jan-22-08 10:36 PM |
#252 |
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I get measured for the seat on Friday |
ThomCat |
Jan-22-08 10:41 PM |
#257 |
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Abortion is a health issue.. |
stillcool47 |
Jan-22-08 09:50 PM |
#185 |
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I love these facts - such a valid point |
LynneSin |
Jan-22-08 09:57 PM |
#201 |
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It is all so unnecessary. |
stillcool47 |
Jan-22-08 10:39 PM |
#255 |
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Moral issue? No. |
mwdem |
Jan-22-08 10:29 PM |
#245 |
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It's a medical issue. |
Chovexani |
Jan-22-08 10:48 PM |
#259 |
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locking |
maddezmom |
Jan-22-08 10:55 PM |
#260 |
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