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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:47 PM
Response to Reply #63
68. Just for your info because you seem to be ill informed
Partial birth abortions don't exist, they never did. It is just fodder to whip the RW base into a frenzy.
ANY third trimester abortion done is done solely for the health of the mother--and not "on demand".
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  -Do you feel that abortion is a moral issue? IndianaJones  Jan-22-08 03:54 PM   #0 
  - It is a private matter between the woman  HockeyMom   Jan-22-08 03:56 PM   #1 
  - That wasn't the question, though.  yibbehobba   Jan-22-08 04:49 PM   #30 
  - Self delete. Dupe.  yibbehobba   Jan-22-08 04:51 PM   #31 
  - That's just so wrong on so many levels  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 05:50 PM   #46 
     - just because people can not legally  Djinn   Jan-22-08 07:05 PM   #75 
        - The question, of course, is whether aborting a fetus  maui9002   Jan-22-08 08:11 PM   #93 
        - nope  Djinn   Jan-22-08 10:14 PM   #227 
        - That doesn't actually make sense  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 08:20 PM   #96 
           - *You* are at odd with progressivism.  Lars39   Jan-22-08 08:34 PM   #100 
           - Well... I like things nicely organized  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 08:37 PM   #102 
              - in other words  Djinn   Jan-22-08 10:23 PM   #239 
           - So you're claiming that  Djinn   Jan-22-08 10:19 PM   #234 
  - Personal issue  Lithos   Jan-22-08 03:57 PM   #2 
  - Whose morals?  zanne   Jan-22-08 03:57 PM   #3 
  - Well either way its a moral issue  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-22-08 03:59 PM   #5 
     - And where do you fall? nt  zanne   Jan-22-08 04:17 PM   #14 
  - It's a legal issue...  SidDithers   Jan-22-08 03:58 PM   #4 
  - I think the IWR is a moral issue.  Bornaginhooligan   Jan-22-08 04:00 PM   #6 
  - It's a privacy issue  maxanne   Jan-22-08 04:00 PM   #7 
  - It's a personal issue  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Jan-22-08 04:08 PM   #8 
  - Why do people always say it's between a woman and  Yupster   Jan-22-08 08:44 PM   #108 
  - I've used that phrase when defending the right to an abortion  maui9002   Jan-22-08 09:03 PM   #138 
  - Whoops  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Jan-22-08 09:56 PM   #198 
  - I wasn't suggesting she needs "permission" from anybody  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Jan-22-08 09:53 PM   #189 
  - Other: I have no uterus, so I have no say in the matter  NightWatcher   Jan-22-08 04:13 PM   #9 
  - I'm with you.  tekisui   Jan-22-08 04:14 PM   #11 
  - There is no moral issue until the fetus is viable. Until that time it is no more a moral issue than  sinkingfeeling   Jan-22-08 04:14 PM   #10 
  - It's a moral issue, not a political one.  MrCoffee   Jan-22-08 04:15 PM   #12 
  - How is it a moral issue? Please explain.  sinkingfeeling   Jan-22-08 04:31 PM   #19 
     - I believe it's a moral issue for those who choose to have one  MrCoffee   Jan-22-08 05:10 PM   #41 
        - The decision to have an abortion is not morally "right or wrong"  Horse with no Name   Jan-22-08 06:42 PM   #66 
  - No. Not A Moral Issue At All  querelle   Jan-22-08 04:16 PM   #13 
  - It's a moral issue in the same way that adultery is a moral issue  XemaSab   Jan-22-08 04:18 PM   #15 
  - Privacy  libnnc   Jan-22-08 04:18 PM   #16 
  - Let's link these 2 polls:  Lars39   Jan-22-08 04:20 PM   #17 
  - Moral as in the moral thing to do is mind your own business about what choices a woman makes n/t  gollygee   Jan-22-08 04:22 PM   #18 
  - Other  Terran   Jan-22-08 04:34 PM   #20 
  - Fair Enough.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jan-22-08 04:35 PM   #23 
  - I was thinking along those lines. Sometimes it's a survival issue.  Iris   Jan-22-08 05:12 PM   #42 
  - absolutely not.  spanone   Jan-22-08 04:34 PM   #21 
  - it depends on the person, I guess.  FLDem5   Jan-22-08 04:34 PM   #22 
  - Which of these definitions  kdmorris   Jan-22-08 04:37 PM   #24 
  - It's a PRIVATE issue  supernova   Jan-22-08 04:41 PM   #25 
  - No-one's business but the woman and her doctor.  yy4me   Jan-22-08 04:42 PM   #26 
  - It's a none of your fucking business issue  Solly Mack   Jan-22-08 04:44 PM   #27 
  - Isn't "none of your business" a moral value? n/t  lumberjack_jeff   Jan-22-08 04:57 PM   #36 
  - How so?  Solly Mack   Jan-22-08 04:58 PM   #38 
     - Do I have a moral obligation to stay out of your business, absent a compelling reason?  lumberjack_jeff   Jan-22-08 06:33 PM   #58 
        - Do you? You are attributing a *moral* value to it  Solly Mack   Jan-22-08 07:08 PM   #77 
           - It doesn't matter how people "view" things  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 08:10 PM   #92 
              - Oh - absolutely  Solly Mack   Jan-22-08 08:49 PM   #113 
                 - Well, they aren't  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 08:50 PM   #118 
  - HALLO!  Karenina   Jan-22-08 05:03 PM   #39 
  - Do you feel the government should be legislating morality?  RandomKoolzip   Jan-22-08 04:47 PM   #28 
  - Yes, I do.  spoony   Jan-22-08 04:58 PM   #37 
     - I don't see that as morality, I see it as common sense.  RandomKoolzip   Jan-22-08 06:00 PM   #51 
  - Well, I think it's immoral but I'm glad it's legal  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 04:49 PM   #29 
  - I'm sorry, but that is inane  kdmorris   Jan-22-08 04:51 PM   #32 
     - Yes, my position *is* immoral, but I don't care, we should be able to kill  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 05:48 PM   #45 
  - Of course it is. Very few issues of consequence are not moral issues.  lumberjack_jeff   Jan-22-08 04:56 PM   #33 
  - Of course it's a moral issue.  yibbehobba   Jan-22-08 04:56 PM   #34 
  - I still think defining it as moral lies with the individual woman.  Iris   Jan-22-08 05:14 PM   #43 
  - That can be said of just about any issue.  yibbehobba   Jan-22-08 06:13 PM   #55 
     - Yup. (sorry for the short answer, but just yup)  uppityperson   Jan-22-08 06:35 PM   #59 
     - but that doesn't rule out that it could simply be just a decision  Iris   Jan-22-08 06:52 PM   #70 
  - actually you probably do  Djinn   Jan-22-08 07:09 PM   #79 
  - Yes, well said! nt  JerseygirlCT   Jan-22-08 08:16 PM   #95 
  - its only when i moved to america did i realize that abortion and evolution were considered  lionesspriyanka   Jan-22-08 04:57 PM   #35 
  - Why, were you living on Mars?  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 06:46 PM   #67 
  - no, i lived in india where neither a medical decision nor a scientific one had moral connotations  lionesspriyanka   Jan-22-08 07:02 PM   #74 
  - I don't think you know what "moral" means... and I also call bullshit  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 08:01 PM   #86 
     - just because something contradicts your limited worldview doesnt make it bullshit  lionesspriyanka   Jan-22-08 08:48 PM   #112 
        - I just cited an article that directly contradicts your claims  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 08:55 PM   #127 
  - wrong  Djinn   Jan-22-08 07:13 PM   #80 
     - Prove it  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 07:56 PM   #85 
  - Then what were the issues called, if I may ask for your perspective?  HypnoToad   Jan-22-08 09:07 PM   #142 
     - selective abortion is a feminist issue which is a very different debate from aborrtion is murder.  lionesspriyanka   Jan-22-08 10:00 PM   #206 
  - abortion is a medical procedure, which is PRIVATE between  Scout   Jan-22-08 05:04 PM   #40 
  - But it really isn't, though... you know that, right?  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 05:52 PM   #47 
     - of course i do....  Scout   Jan-22-08 05:57 PM   #49 
     - But you just said you did, but then you wrote something else...  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 06:19 PM   #56 
        - "the woman doesn't actually get much of a say" What?  uppityperson   Jan-22-08 06:35 PM   #60 
        - You heard me... starting in the second trimester and more so in the third  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 06:40 PM   #63 
           - Just for your info because you seem to be ill informed  Horse with no Name   Jan-22-08 06:47 PM   #68 
           - Of course partial birth abortions exist... doctors just don't use that term  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 08:05 PM   #87 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-22-08 08:08 PM   #89 
              - Of course the act exists... arguing over terminology is stupid  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 08:13 PM   #94 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-22-08 08:25 PM   #97 
                    - If I call a diamond a LOONSTONE, it's still the same substance  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 08:31 PM   #99 
                       - Calling abortion murder does not belong on a progressive website  Horse with no Name   Jan-22-08 08:37 PM   #103 
                          - I support abortion rights... that's all I owe progressivism  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 08:41 PM   #105 
                             - You're mealy-mouthed.  Lars39   Jan-22-08 08:44 PM   #106 
                                - Please be civil... supporting abortion and believing that the act is distasteful  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 08:47 PM   #111 
                                   - It's hard to believe a jewel such as yourself has been divorced by at least 2 women.  Hoof Hearted   Jan-22-08 09:00 PM   #133 
                                   - That's uncalled for  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 09:03 PM   #137 
                                   - Supporting abortion and telling women, some who have had abortions, it's distasteful?  LynneSin   Jan-22-08 09:54 PM   #191 
                                   - Abortion is distasteful  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 09:56 PM   #195 
                                      - Oh, so you've downgraded to 'distasteful' huh  LynneSin   Jan-22-08 09:59 PM   #204 
                                      - Okay... it's gross and disgusting  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 10:04 PM   #213 
                                      - Repeat after me if you want me to back off: IT'S A PERSONAL CHOICE  LynneSin   Jan-22-08 10:07 PM   #218 
                                      - Repeat after me... the legal system sez differently  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 10:12 PM   #224 
                                      - There is a problem with that.  uppityperson   Jan-22-08 10:25 PM   #242 
                                   - murder is "distasteful"?  uppityperson   Jan-22-08 10:23 PM   #240 
              - Jesus, could you possibly fit any more RW code terms in your post?  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Jan-22-08 08:47 PM   #110 
              - BE CIVIL.  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 08:49 PM   #114 
              - you COULD use the term 'late term abortion' or can't you wrap your  FLDem5   Jan-22-08 08:50 PM   #120 
              - Actually, that's fine by me... I apologize for not thinking of it... but  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 08:52 PM   #122 
              - STOP YELLING  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Jan-22-08 09:48 PM   #182 
              - Indeed. n/t  Horse with no Name   Jan-22-08 08:49 PM   #115 
              - Murder is illegal killing with malice aforethought.  FLDem5   Jan-22-08 08:50 PM   #116 
              - Manslaughter then  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 08:54 PM   #124 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-22-08 08:57 PM   #130 
                 - So you are incapable of being polite?  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 09:04 PM   #139 
                 - try again, Sunshine...  FLDem5   Jan-22-08 08:59 PM   #132 
                 - Ahhh but my wiki is too strong for you...  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 09:06 PM   #140 
                    - so now you are equating abortion with justifiable homicide?!  FLDem5   Jan-22-08 09:13 PM   #154 
                       - Not now... that's ALWAYS been my position  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 09:14 PM   #155 
                          - No... your position was that it was murder. Then that it was manslaughter.  FLDem5   Jan-22-08 09:16 PM   #157 
                             - Whatever word you want to use for the deliberate taking of a life is fine by me  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 09:19 PM   #160 
                                - I don't know - a human life to me denotes a certain degree of independance  FLDem5   Jan-22-08 09:29 PM   #169 
                                - That's a pretty specific definition of human life  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 09:38 PM   #175 
                                - Abortion is deliberate.  ChazII   Jan-22-08 09:56 PM   #196 
                                   - Actually no it's not Abortion is more common than you think  LynneSin   Jan-22-08 10:01 PM   #210 
                                      - And D&C's are routinely performed following an incomplete miscarriage (nt)  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 10:06 PM   #216 
                 - Good point. n/t  ChazII   Jan-22-08 09:45 PM   #180 
              - Frankly, it is a private matter...  vmaus   Jan-22-08 08:54 PM   #123 
              - Two points  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 08:56 PM   #129 
                 - I disagree on your first point.  vmaus   Jan-22-08 09:23 PM   #163 
              - That's YOUR opinion  LynneSin   Jan-22-08 08:54 PM   #125 
              - Right on... those things are murder  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 08:58 PM   #131 
                 - Ah - I see - you're a guy. Sure, easy enough for you to say those things  LynneSin   Jan-22-08 09:06 PM   #141 
                    - TRY READING MY POSTS... I SUPPORT ABORTION RIGHTS  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 09:09 PM   #146 
                       - You call it murder and taking a life  LynneSin   Jan-22-08 09:12 PM   #152 
                          - I support animal rights, but I still eat meat  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 09:15 PM   #156 
                             - Thank you - you just proved my point to your flawed thinking  LynneSin   Jan-22-08 09:24 PM   #164 
                                - So you also support animal rights and eat burgers?  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 09:27 PM   #167 
                                   - Oh lordy you're a whack job  LynneSin   Jan-22-08 09:33 PM   #171 
              - You support murder on demand?? That makes you a sick fuck.  Der Blaue Engel   Jan-22-08 08:55 PM   #128 
              - I'm a sick fuck... at least I can admit it...  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 09:02 PM   #136 
                 - Just keep babbling, sicko n/t  Der Blaue Engel   Jan-22-08 09:08 PM   #144 
                    - So you never support a morally suspect position for the good of all?  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 09:10 PM   #147 
                       - Lol...sounds like the Republican platform  Der Blaue Engel   Jan-22-08 09:40 PM   #177 
                          - I'm pretty sure that have and do support positions that you personally  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 09:57 PM   #199 
                             - Will you please stop attributing your motives to me?  Der Blaue Engel   Jan-22-08 10:47 PM   #258 
              - Is it "murder" to have an unwanted child and make that child  texastoast   Jan-22-08 09:00 PM   #134 
                 - Look... I SUPPORT ABORTION... I JUST DON'T LIKE IT  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 09:08 PM   #143 
                    - GOOD THEN GO FUCKING POST ON A FUNDIE ANTI-CHOICE SITE  LynneSin   Jan-22-08 09:34 PM   #173 
                       - BUT I'M PRO-CHOICE (NT)  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 09:39 PM   #176 
                          - No you're not. If you were you'd think your actions post this completely thru  LynneSin   Jan-22-08 09:44 PM   #179 
                          - But abortion is not a private matter  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 09:58 PM   #202 
                             - WE HAVE ENOUGH LAWS and it's STILL between a doctor and the PREGNANT WOMAN!  LynneSin   Jan-22-08 10:04 PM   #211 
                                - Ultimately, it's a legal issue, not a matter for a woman and her doctor  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 10:05 PM   #215 
                                   - No, it is between a woman and her doctor. It is legislated to be up to them.  uppityperson   Jan-22-08 10:30 PM   #247 
                          - no you aren't, you're pro choice cafeteria style.  chimpsrsmarter   Jan-22-08 09:53 PM   #190 
                             - What does that mean? (nt)  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 09:55 PM   #193 
                                - you aren't pro choice, you called 3rd trimester abortions murder so your pro choice  chimpsrsmarter   Jan-22-08 09:57 PM   #200 
                                   - That's not even remotely helpful  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 10:00 PM   #205 
                                      - you're cool with it until it becomes what, icky, distasteful or until you think it can live outside  chimpsrsmarter   Jan-22-08 10:04 PM   #212 
                                         - Chimp, I don't mean to step in here on your arguement but...  LynneSin   Jan-22-08 10:05 PM   #214 
                                            - and he can't have it both ways, if he thinks 3rd trimester is murder than 1st must be as well so he  chimpsrsmarter   Jan-22-08 10:07 PM   #217 
                                            - How is supporting a woman's right to choose being anti-choice?  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 10:10 PM   #220 
                                            - When you call the choice that woman make as 'murder'  LynneSin   Jan-22-08 10:11 PM   #223 
                                            - I love the fact that he can be so fricking insultive when....  LynneSin   Jan-22-08 10:10 PM   #222 
                                            - thats right, he will never be in that postion ever but is willing to pass judgement  chimpsrsmarter   Jan-22-08 10:12 PM   #225 
                                            - This is what offends me the most  LynneSin   Jan-22-08 10:18 PM   #230 
                                            - lee mercer is prochoice all the way.  chimpsrsmarter   Jan-22-08 10:19 PM   #232 
                                            - Abortion is the ending of a human life... but that's okay by me  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 10:08 PM   #219 
                                            - why is first trimester abortion not murder to you but 3rd is? Explain that please.  chimpsrsmarter   Jan-22-08 10:10 PM   #221 
                                            - No... it's the taking of a human life in all trimesters...  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 10:13 PM   #226 
                                            - Why is it more okay the earlier it's done?  uppityperson   Jan-22-08 10:31 PM   #248 
                                            - You don't fricking get it - WE DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK IT IS  LynneSin   Jan-22-08 10:14 PM   #228 
                                            - So you would advocate removing all laws regarding abortion?  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 10:18 PM   #231 
                                            - I highly doubt we could get those laws removed  LynneSin   Jan-22-08 10:26 PM   #243 
           - The woman has a say in seeking one.  uppityperson   Jan-22-08 06:59 PM   #71 
              - Since the partial birth ban "changed all that," then women actually  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 08:06 PM   #88 
                 - Nobody seeks out third trimester abortions  Horse with no Name   Jan-22-08 08:37 PM   #104 
                 - So the ban wasn't a big deal then?  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 08:44 PM   #107 
                    - If you mean banning certain types of late abortions, no. Not a big deal.  uppityperson   Jan-22-08 10:32 PM   #249 
                 - Try finding a 3rd trimester abortion BEFORE that stupid rule  LynneSin   Jan-22-08 09:09 PM   #145 
                 - Some people here support that position  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 09:11 PM   #150 
                 - I've been here at DU long enough to known that not one DUer  LynneSin   Jan-22-08 09:17 PM   #158 
                 - Come on now, there have been flame wars over this  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 09:21 PM   #161 
                    - And you think it's just progressives that post here  LynneSin   Jan-22-08 09:25 PM   #166 
                 - No. They don't. More RW tripe from you.  Horse with no Name   Jan-22-08 09:17 PM   #159 
                    - I wish I could... I remember it like it was yesterday  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 09:22 PM   #162 
                       - You won't find it because it never happened  Horse with no Name   Jan-22-08 09:24 PM   #165 
                          - why won't you fucking well be polite? PS found it  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 09:28 PM   #168 
                             - Apples and oranges  Horse with no Name   Jan-22-08 09:55 PM   #194 
                                - But they were all wrong  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 10:01 PM   #209 
                 - Exactly. The entire legislation was a bone for the fundies to gnaw on  Horse with no Name   Jan-22-08 09:12 PM   #153 
                 - WTF is "partial birth ban"? There is no such thing.  uppityperson   Jan-22-08 10:19 PM   #233 
        - what the LAW states  Djinn   Jan-22-08 07:17 PM   #81 
           - Are you using the English language in some sort of new way?  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 08:08 PM   #91 
     - let's see...  salin   Jan-22-08 09:33 PM   #172 
        - Abortions are always morally wrong... it's just that sometimes things have to  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 10:16 PM   #229 
  - The legality of: "yes"; whether or not to have one: "arguably".  Donald Ian Rankin   Jan-22-08 05:15 PM   #44 
  - So the answer to the question depends on the date?  lumberjack_jeff   Jan-22-08 06:41 PM   #64 
     - Absolutely.  Donald Ian Rankin   Jan-22-08 06:49 PM   #69 
        - On what basis?  lumberjack_jeff   Jan-22-08 07:00 PM   #72 
           - Self-awareness.  Donald Ian Rankin   Jan-22-08 07:07 PM   #76 
  - Other, question is too vague. Is choice of breakfast food moral?...  uppityperson   Jan-22-08 05:56 PM   #48 
  - Many times it's an economic issue. n/t  Blue_In_AK   Jan-22-08 05:57 PM   #50 
  - Thinking further, of COURSE it's a moral issue. Read on...  uppityperson   Jan-22-08 06:01 PM   #52 
  - Yes. And you can't legislate morality.  Canuckistanian   Jan-22-08 06:06 PM   #53 
  - Now, that's what I call irony (nt)  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 06:41 PM   #65 
  - Also true.  HypnoToad   Jan-22-08 09:11 PM   #151 
  - I think that depends on the woman.  BlackVelvet04   Jan-22-08 06:10 PM   #54 
  - No  krabigirl   Jan-22-08 06:20 PM   #57 
  - Inherently, no. It is NOT a moral issue  Horse with no Name   Jan-22-08 06:38 PM   #61 
  - See... that just doesn't make sense  cgrindley   Jan-22-08 08:26 PM   #98 
  - I replied "Other"  MrsMatt   Jan-22-08 06:38 PM   #62 
  - yes...............nt  michreject   Jan-22-08 07:01 PM   #73 
  - I don't believe in morals  Jed Dilligan   Jan-22-08 07:09 PM   #78 
  - No  ismnotwasm   Jan-22-08 07:25 PM   #82 
  - The abortion issue raises serious questions.  I work for workers   Jan-22-08 07:30 PM   #83 
  - It is a HEALTH and PRIVACY issue, period. Anybody who says differently has a BIBLE to sell you.  Hoof Hearted   Jan-22-08 07:34 PM   #84 
  - Somehow I doubt this one has a Bible to sell.  spoony   Jan-22-08 10:22 PM   #238 
  - On a personal level, of course  JerseygirlCT   Jan-22-08 08:08 PM   #90 
  - Morals should have nothing to do with either way. If anything, it's a medical issue. n/t  LibInTexas   Jan-22-08 08:34 PM   #101 
  - I think it is..  sendero   Jan-22-08 08:45 PM   #109 
  - Decisions made between a woman and her doctor...........  tyedyeto   Jan-22-08 08:50 PM   #117 
  - no n/t  Skittles   Jan-22-08 08:50 PM   #119 
  - Yes, of course it is.  baldguy   Jan-22-08 08:52 PM   #121 
  - Thank you, baldguy.  Lars39   Jan-22-08 08:55 PM   #126 
  - And is it moral to say only those rich enough to afford to pay private doctors can have safe abortio  uppityperson   Jan-22-08 10:35 PM   #251 
  - A more basic question:  HypnoToad   Jan-22-08 09:02 PM   #135 
  - uhh.... duh ?  teleharmonium   Jan-22-08 09:11 PM   #148 
  - I believe it's a private choice and I believe it should not be legislated by MEN who will never  LynneSin   Jan-22-08 09:11 PM   #149 
  - Yes - I believe it is immoral.  Midwestern Democrat   Jan-22-08 09:32 PM   #170 
  - and in the case of rape or incest?  chimpsrsmarter   Jan-22-08 09:37 PM   #174 
  - I would favor permitting abortion in those circumstances, as well as  Midwestern Democrat   Jan-22-08 09:56 PM   #197 
     - Again - another man making a choice over something that will never happen to him  LynneSin   Jan-22-08 09:58 PM   #203 
     - i have no business making someone's choice for them and neither does anyone else.  chimpsrsmarter   Jan-22-08 10:01 PM   #207 
     - oh yeah thanks for "Permitting" something thats already permissible under the law.  chimpsrsmarter   Jan-22-08 10:21 PM   #236 
     - So why is it ok in cases of rape or incest?  uppityperson   Jan-22-08 10:37 PM   #253 
  - Welcome to DU, I hope you enjoy your short stay  Saint Etienne17   Jan-22-08 09:48 PM   #181 
  - Here is the critical point/question:  salin   Jan-22-08 09:50 PM   #183 
  - Ironically posted by another MAN  LynneSin   Jan-22-08 09:50 PM   #186 
  - Yes. Anyone who thinks they have a right to take over  ThomCat   Jan-22-08 09:43 PM   #178 
  - Riddle me this:  Perragrande   Jan-22-08 10:01 PM   #208 
     - What does this have to do with the OP?  ThomCat   Jan-22-08 10:20 PM   #235 
     - Sounds like a vindictive, uncaring person.  uppityperson   Jan-22-08 10:38 PM   #254 
  - I'm male. Therefore, it's none of my fucking business.  Redstone   Jan-22-08 09:50 PM   #184 
  - Thank you, Redstone!  Suich   Jan-22-08 09:53 PM   #187 
  - I vote you the smartest man ever in DU  LynneSin   Jan-22-08 09:53 PM   #188 
  - win!  chimpsrsmarter   Jan-22-08 09:55 PM   #192 
  - I disagree, because as long as other men are anti-choice  ThomCat   Jan-22-08 10:22 PM   #237 
     - You didn't understand what I was saying.  Redstone   Jan-22-08 10:25 PM   #241 
        - I do. You're saying it shouldn't be any man's business.  ThomCat   Jan-22-08 10:28 PM   #244 
           - No. That's not what I said.  Redstone   Jan-22-08 10:30 PM   #246 
           - I'm open to an elaboration.  ThomCat   Jan-22-08 10:33 PM   #250 
              - No, I'm too tired. Figure it out for yourself, if you don't mind.  Redstone   Jan-22-08 10:40 PM   #256 
           - Thom - I don't think Redstone meant he doens't support our fight for choice  LynneSin   Jan-22-08 10:36 PM   #252 
              - I get measured for the seat on Friday  ThomCat   Jan-22-08 10:41 PM   #257 
  - Abortion is a health issue..  stillcool47   Jan-22-08 09:50 PM   #185 
  - I love these facts - such a valid point  LynneSin   Jan-22-08 09:57 PM   #201 
     - It is all so unnecessary.  stillcool47   Jan-22-08 10:39 PM   #255 
  - Moral issue? No.  mwdem   Jan-22-08 10:29 PM   #245 
  - It's a medical issue.  Chovexani   Jan-22-08 10:48 PM   #259 
  - locking  maddezmom   Jan-22-08 10:55 PM   #260 
 

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