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48. Grossman met with 9/11 financier Mahmoud Ahmed on 9/10/01.
One man described as a pillar of the ATC that Edmonds has been able to talk about is Marc Grossman. http://sibeledmonds.blogspot.com/2006/09/doug-feith-ric... The same Marc Grossman who told Scooter Libby on June 11 or 12, 2003, more than a month before Novak’s column, about Wilson’s wife working at the CIA. http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/001046.php The same Marc Grossman mentioned in the 1st edition of American Judas who had a meeting that was reported on September 10, 2001, as “most important” with General Mahmoud Ahmad, who resigned from being Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) Chief the following month in the wake of an investigation by Times of India, confirmed by the FBI, that he authorized ISI agent Omar Saeed Sheikh to wire transfer $100,000 in August 2001 to Mohammed Atta, the lead hijacker of the 9/11 attacks. http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/main/essays... When questioned in April 2006 by director Mathieu Verboud for an interview that was later cut out of a documentary about Sibel Edmonds titled Kill the Messenger, Grossman claimed he didn’t know anything about Sibel Edmonds or Valerie Plame. This cannot be true, according to Edmonds, because Grossman was one of three officials – the other two, she says, are Richard Perle and Douglas Feith – who had been watched by both Valerie Plame's Brewster Jennings & Associates CIA team, and by the major FBI investigation of organized crime and governmental corruption on which she herself was working until being terminated in April 2002. http://sibeledmonds.blogspot.com/2006/09/doug-feith-ric...

Now that yet another motivation for Cheney to blow Plame’s cover has been revealed, the role that Turkey plays in this game of “many dark actors” appears much larger. Edmonds has researched this extensively and wrote about it in a two part article in November 2006 titled The Hijacking of a Nation. To quote: “Turkey played a major role in Pakistan and Libya's illicit activities in obtaining nuclear technologies. In June 2004, Stephen Fidler, a reporter for Financial Times reported that in 2003, Turkish centrifuge motors and converters destined for Libya's nuclear weapons program turned up in Tripoli aboard a ship that had sailed from Dubai. One of those detained individuals in this incident, a 'respected and successful' Turkish Businessman, Selim Alguadis, was cited in a public report from the Malaysian inspector-general of police into the Malaysian end of a Pakistani-led clandestine network that supplied Libya, Iran and North Korea with nuclear weapons technologies, designs and expertise. According to the report, "he supplied these materials to Libya." Mr. Alguadis also confessed that he had on several occasions met A Q Khan, the disgraced Pakistani scientist who has admitted transmitting nuclear expertise to the three countries”. http://www.counterpunch.org/edmonds11292006.html

One more dot to connect: is Dick Cheney directly affiliated with any of the “semi-legitimate organizations” in this international criminal conspiracy? While only a thorough binding investigation with subpoena power can determine this, the gagged former FBI translator has left a trail of breadcrumbs pointing investigators in the appropriate direction. Again from The Hijacking of a Nation, 'ATC is joined in the creation of the New EuroAsia by the American Azerbaijan Chamber of Commerce (AACC). AACC's Honorary Council of Advisors just happens to have General Scowcroft and the following persons of significance: Henry Kissinger and James Baker III. Former Council members include Dick Cheney and Richard Armitage, and Board of Trustee members include media-overkill subject Richard Perle of AEI, and Senator Sam Brownback of Kansas.' http://www.counterpunch.org/edmonds11292006.html

Interesting that Cheney is listed as having resigned from the AACC in November 2000. As though leaving the organization a month before the Supreme Court selected him to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency could cover up the fact that this American Judas has made more money selling the security of his country out for the greater profits of drugs, money laundering, arms sales and international terrorism than the 30 pieces of silver the Biblical Judas sold his friend Jesus Christ out for. This is a story that cannot be swept under the rug. It is a huge story, sometimes daunting, but it must be told, and those who are in the best position to tell it must no longer be silenced by a government that claims to be of the people, for the people and by the people. We, the people, hunger for the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. The outline of the truth has been mapped in this paper, but there are many more pieces of the puzzle to discover. It’s important to remember that no matter how many stories are listed here, it is still just one story. But to get the whole story, we must have a whole investigation. Nothing in our lifetime could be more important, because there is no greater endeavor than establishing justice. It’s what our Founding Fathers listed first in the Constitution for their priorities of forming “a more perfect union”. We owe it to them, and ourselves, to see the truth through to the end.

http://americanjudas.blogspot.com/2007_03_01_archive.ht...
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  - Grossman met with 9/11 financier Mahmoud Ahmed on 9/10/01.  robertpaulsen   Jan-21-08 12:29 PM   #48 
  - Grossman met with 9/11 financier Mahmoud Ahmed on 9/10/01.  seemslikeadream   Jan-21-08 06:34 PM   #87 
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  - Thank you...  StateSecrets   Jan-21-08 01:20 PM   #58 
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  - Excellent point, the selling of nuclear secrets has also been going on...  AntiFascist   Jan-21-08 03:42 PM   #72 
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  - k&r  bobthedrummer   Jan-21-08 03:13 PM   #71 
  - K&R  me b zola   Jan-21-08 03:50 PM   #73 
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  - AIPAC  lukery   Jan-21-08 04:13 PM   #77 
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  - Rec'd, of course. (nt)  scarletwoman   Jan-21-08 05:32 PM   #83 
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  - watch video by EX CIA agent Please  classykaren   Jan-21-08 06:52 PM   #91 
  - link isn't working  seemslikeadream   Jan-21-08 06:53 PM   #92 
     - IT was working till I put it on the daily kos  classykaren   Jan-22-08 04:10 AM   #120 
        - Interesting note...  jonnyra   Jan-23-08 06:54 AM   #134 
  - Kicked and recommended.  Uncle Joe   Jan-21-08 06:54 PM   #93 
  - kick goddam it.... WE knew... we knew ... we knew....n/t-  annabanana   Jan-21-08 07:00 PM   #94 
  - KICK!  bonito   Jan-21-08 07:47 PM   #95 
  - Let's see how many major american news organizations  Mutineer   Jan-21-08 08:23 PM   #97 
  - harry shearer  lukery   Jan-21-08 09:02 PM   #98 
  - Forgot my password.  mmonk   Jan-21-08 10:24 PM   #109 
  - OMG, just got home during the debate, then came to the Greatest and saw this.  BleedingHeartPatriot   Jan-21-08 09:23 PM   #101 
  - 150th recommendation! kicking too. (i wish this story would soar) n/t  orleans   Jan-21-08 09:59 PM   #106 
  - Sibel's story goes primetime  lukery   Jan-21-08 10:10 PM   #107 
  - Cheers to you lukery for keeping us updated/informed over the years about Sibel's story  file83   Jan-21-08 11:26 PM   #114 
  - A big thank you to everyone who works on this  AikidoSoul   Jan-21-08 10:18 PM   #108 
  - Why do I get the feeling the Bush Admin actually WANTS a nuke to go off in our country?  file83   Jan-21-08 11:19 PM   #113 
  - K&R n/t  proReality   Jan-21-08 11:48 PM   #115 
  - Kpete, as always  lala_rawraw   Jan-22-08 12:04 AM   #116 
  - A convenient twofer? n/t  livvy   Jan-22-08 06:03 AM   #124 
  - good interview with Valerie Plame on Aussie radio  Swagman   Jan-22-08 06:59 AM   #126 
  - K & R  bushwentawol   Jan-22-08 07:53 AM   #127 
  - Wiki- Grossman  RUMMYisFROSTED   Jan-22-08 08:00 AM   #128 
  - Sounds like treason to me  conscious evolution   Jan-22-08 06:31 PM   #130 
  - Action in DC - Today (Wed 1/23) Grossman appearing in congress on unrelated matter  lostnfound   Jan-23-08 02:23 AM   #133 
 

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