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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 10:35 PM
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10. I'll give you the first election. Not the second.
Edited on Sun Jan-20-08 10:36 PM by aquart
Americans like high profile celebrities. California made Arnold a governor. So, yeah. We liked voting for the First Lady who had behaved with such consummate grace during eight years of constant assault. And it was delightful that the woman who didn't bake cookies became the FIRST First Lady to go on to elective office.

I'll give you something else: I think the Republicans conceded the election in advance. Her opposition was lightweight both times. I can't even remember them.

But she worked her ass off and she delivered. Which is what we had in mind when we voted for her. (She and Schumer also broke my heart with the IWR vote which is why I preferred Edwards until Iowa.)

I would like to think, and hope it's true, that we would not have voted Britney Spears into the Senate had she chosen to run. But I'm not totally sure. I do know we would laugh Laura Bush out of the five boroughs. Upstate New York? Who knows with them.
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  -For the record, Hillary Clinton got where she is own her own merits journalist3072  Jan-20-08 10:11 PM   #0 
  - THANK YOU. I'm getting sick and tired of the sexist crud being spouted here.  LulaMay   Jan-20-08 10:13 PM   #1 
  - Welcome to DU, Lula May. Right you are: she was one of the best "children's rights" lawyers inthe US  Hekate   Jan-20-08 10:24 PM   #5 
  - For the record: Ther e is absolutely no fucking way on earth to  cali   Jan-21-08 03:26 AM   #67 
     - For the record: did I say there was?  Hekate   Jan-21-08 03:48 AM   #69 
        - I'm sorry  cali   Jan-21-08 04:17 AM   #71 
  - And don't ever say anything about the STAR  Bitwit1234   Jan-20-08 11:01 PM   #24 
  - "brilliant, extremely accomplished"  leftchick   Jan-21-08 03:37 AM   #68 
  - I agree that she is brilliant and very accomplished  Yupster   Jan-21-08 04:15 AM   #70 
  - The Obama nutcase contingent has already rewritten the history  The_Casual_Observer   Jan-20-08 10:14 PM   #2 
  - k&r  Fredda Weinberg   Jan-20-08 10:15 PM   #3 
  - Um, you don't think she won the NY Senate seat because of her marriage to Bill?  Stephanie   Jan-20-08 10:21 PM   #4 
  - No, I do not. Do you even have a clue how she won that Senate senate? Because she listened to the  journalist3072   Jan-20-08 10:30 PM   #8 
  - thank you!  kineta   Jan-20-08 10:39 PM   #12 
  - Um, I AM a "people of New Yorker"  Stephanie   Jan-20-08 10:49 PM   #13 
  - Yawn...Boo freakin boo, sob, sob, sob...  journalist3072   Jan-20-08 10:50 PM   #14 
  - Oh, that's substantive.  Stephanie   Jan-20-08 10:50 PM   #15 
     - And your post was? NOT! eom  journalist3072   Jan-20-08 10:51 PM   #16 
        - You might be off the clock but do google Buffalo and Tata Industries  Stephanie   Jan-20-08 10:53 PM   #18 
  - tata? what a company!  madrchsod   Jan-20-08 11:15 PM   #33 
  - She promised to bring jobs to Buffalo. She only brought Tata, an outsourcing firm.  Stephanie   Jan-20-08 11:23 PM   #40 
  - Being a NYer myself, thank you for telling it like it was/is! nt  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jan-21-08 05:12 AM   #74 
  - Oh, BS. She won the senate seat because she was already famous.  dorkulon   Jan-20-08 10:57 PM   #21 
  - What a bunch of crock.....Just more B.S. from the anti-Clinton contingent...  journalist3072   Jan-20-08 10:58 PM   #22 
  - You can't pretend being one of the most famous people in the world  dorkulon   Jan-20-08 11:10 PM   #30 
  - it was not just fame  hfojvt   Jan-20-08 11:16 PM   #34 
  - And had they never heard of her and her husband they'd have said  JVS   Jan-20-08 11:18 PM   #35 
  - She won her Senate Seat with a huge campaign war chest.  dkf   Jan-20-08 11:35 PM   #45 
  - She worked hard to win her races...I won't doubt that  fujiyama   Jan-21-08 12:14 AM   #53 
  - And you think that if she weren't Bill's wife  Yupster   Jan-22-08 02:00 AM   #99 
  - I'll give you the first election. Not the second.  aquart   Jan-20-08 10:35 PM   #10 
  - Stephanie..  Cleetus   Jan-20-08 10:37 PM   #11 
  - she needed a job and new york had an opening  madrchsod   Jan-20-08 11:21 PM   #38 
  - Deserved it? On what basis?  Stephanie   Jan-20-08 11:33 PM   #44 
     - just kidding  madrchsod   Jan-21-08 12:56 PM   #91 
  - No, she won because the GOP ran Lazio as an "Anti-Hillary" which backfired  niceypoo   Jan-21-08 12:14 AM   #52 
  - Giuliani backed out and left the GOP stuck for a candidate.  Stephanie   Jan-21-08 12:18 AM   #55 
  - But she would have never gotten the nomination  Yupster   Jan-22-08 02:04 AM   #100 
  - you don't think hillary helped bill get where he got? nt  VotesForWomen   Jan-21-08 01:34 AM   #64 
  - No.  Andromeda   Jan-21-08 02:39 AM   #66 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-21-08 10:18 AM   #75 
     - You're the only woman I have a problem with at the moment.  Stephanie   Jan-21-08 10:57 AM   #76 
        - Apparently not, given your remarks about Hillary. For the record, I'm a woman.  LulaMay   Jan-21-08 11:14 AM   #78 
        - Call her SENATOR Clinton, not "Mrs." Clinton.  LulaMay   Jan-21-08 11:46 AM   #82 
        - Don't tell me what to do.  Stephanie   Jan-21-08 11:47 AM   #83 
        - MMoore gives Hillary credit for putting health care reform on the table. Check his website.  LulaMay   Jan-21-08 12:28 PM   #85 
        - Then why doesn't he endorse her?  Stephanie   Jan-21-08 12:48 PM   #89 
        - That's not the point. You don't give her any credit or respect at all. She may be our nominee.  LulaMay   Jan-21-08 12:56 PM   #90 
        - Are you a stalker or something?  Stephanie   Jan-21-08 01:04 PM   #92 
        - You call me a liar and now a stalker. I guess you have nothing else to say.  LulaMay   Jan-21-08 01:07 PM   #93 
           - How about you deal with the facts?  Stephanie   Jan-21-08 01:09 PM   #94 
              - Jesus Steph This Person Is A Motherfucking Batshit Crazy Loon  Binka   Jan-21-08 01:33 PM   #95 
  - K & R for truth  durrrty libby   Jan-20-08 10:24 PM   #6 
  - Oh for goodness sakes...she got into the Rose Law Firm when her husband was AG.  dkf   Jan-20-08 10:28 PM   #7 
  - And you know what? From what I read, the Rose Law Firm struggled with that  journalist3072   Jan-20-08 10:32 PM   #9 
  - From Wikipedia Rose Law firm was a bastion of Arkansas political and economic influence  dkf   Jan-20-08 11:29 PM   #42 
  - There is a direct connection between ignorance of Hillary and opposition to Hillary  niceypoo   Jan-21-08 12:17 AM   #54 
  - I got all that stuff from Wikipedia. I already read it.  dkf   Jan-21-08 12:30 AM   #56 
  - So you're saying that the OP is incorrect and/or misleading?  JVS   Jan-21-08 12:46 AM   #58 
     - I just don't see how she does it if Bill was a nobody.  dkf   Jan-21-08 12:52 AM   #61 
        - I agree completely  JVS   Jan-21-08 12:54 AM   #62 
  - Sounds like Clarence Thomas' "pull yourself up by your own  sb5697   Jan-20-08 10:52 PM   #17 
  - Huh? How did Clarence Thomas enter the picture here?  journalist3072   Jan-20-08 10:55 PM   #19 
     - And you can't see the parallels? She did NOT get where she  sb5697   Jan-20-08 11:03 PM   #26 
        - No, it's not.....You think she's tried to benefit from being married to Bill Clinton?  journalist3072   Jan-20-08 11:09 PM   #29 
           - Irregardless of any of this you suggest she didn't benefit and  sb5697   Jan-20-08 11:20 PM   #37 
  - It would be easier to give her credit for her own experience  sfexpat2000   Jan-20-08 10:55 PM   #20 
  - Thank you---and a 5th to the GREATEST  rodeodance   Jan-20-08 10:59 PM   #23 
  - You speak of things from the 70s....but no way Hillary would be elected Senator from NY  earthlover   Jan-20-08 11:01 PM   #25 
  - Please read my response above to the person who tried to pull that same pathetic BS meme...  journalist3072   Jan-20-08 11:03 PM   #27 
  - Name Recognition is always a factor  rodeodance   Jan-20-08 11:06 PM   #28 
  - Nor did she have any credible experience in public office.  sb5697   Jan-20-08 11:28 PM   #41 
  - Hmmm...bulleted "fact point" list in post. It's almost as if a campaign planned this response...hmm  NoodleyAppendage   Jan-20-08 11:12 PM   #31 
  - Without her husband she would very likely be a successful lawyer, but her becomeing a senator...  JVS   Jan-20-08 11:15 PM   #32 
  - The problem is not "how she got there" but "where she is," which is a lousy place.  JackRiddler   Jan-20-08 11:18 PM   #36 
  - Amen I say. HRC is her person.  OHdem10   Jan-20-08 11:22 PM   #39 
  - is not  JVS   Jan-21-08 12:51 AM   #60 
  - I'll be glad when we can all return from fantasyland  lumberjack_jeff   Jan-20-08 11:31 PM   #43 
  - Actually, the question should be would Hillary be running for President  dkf   Jan-20-08 11:45 PM   #46 
  - I am not a Clinton fan in any way, but  lastliberalintexas   Jan-20-08 11:48 PM   #47 
  - I do agree that she is intelligent and qualified on her own merits  dkf   Jan-21-08 12:03 AM   #48 
  - Who outside of her previous employers and  LibDemAlways   Jan-21-08 12:04 AM   #49 
  - Hillary is sharp, bright, and talented in her own right  fujiyama   Jan-21-08 12:09 AM   #50 
  - As a journalist, may I recommend that you proof-read your threads?  Stephanie   Jan-21-08 12:10 AM   #51 
  - Right. Just like Dubya got where he is on his own "merits".  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jan-21-08 12:45 AM   #57 
  - Mighty thin, that list.....  FrenchieCat   Jan-21-08 12:46 AM   #59 
  - How much of her "experience" comes from being at his side?  Hailtothechimp   Jan-21-08 01:05 AM   #63 
  - message to women from nay-sayers: never sacrifice anything for your husband's career; you will get n  VotesForWomen   Jan-21-08 01:45 AM   #65 
  - A good reason never to get married  Elspeth   Jan-21-08 11:08 AM   #77 
  - Did you mean to say ON her own merits?  B Calm   Jan-21-08 04:29 AM   #72 
  - Hillary will win because the CORPORATIONS want it n/t  conspirator   Jan-21-08 04:42 AM   #73 
  - Then how come she leads in negative press coverage? nt  MookieWilson   Jan-21-08 09:48 PM   #97 
     - Negative coverage is just a strategy. The key word is COVERAGE  conspirator   Jan-22-08 05:17 AM   #102 
  - You're Absolutely Right. She's Intelligent, Strong and Politically Talented.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jan-21-08 11:18 AM   #79 
  - You can't tell this bunch that.  Jamastiene   Jan-21-08 11:21 AM   #80 
  - Without taking a thing away from her accomplishments, I think it  Vinca   Jan-21-08 11:24 AM   #81 
  - Without Bill  DadOf2LittleAngels   Jan-21-08 11:48 AM   #84 
  - k&r  Iceburg   Jan-21-08 12:43 PM   #86 
  - and when she voted for the IWR it wasn't because her husband was a former president  Gonnabuymeagun   Jan-21-08 12:47 PM   #87 
  - Thanks for reminding us...  DemCam   Jan-21-08 12:48 PM   #88 
  - Uh huh yes she did BUT  never_get_over_it   Jan-21-08 01:54 PM   #96 
  - Huh huh...on her backbone n/t  spokane   Jan-21-08 09:51 PM   #98 
  - Maybe it was Monica Lewinsky that got Hillary notoriety!  0007   Jan-22-08 02:22 AM   #101 
 

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