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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:21 AM
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77. it was an eye-opening book for me
There isn't a lot I can do about here, except read labels. The idea of buying local is not new, of course but I think it's the right idea. We do not need asparagus flown in from Peru (or wherever he said it came from). But if we eats stuff in season and get by the rest of the year, we can improve the food system in this country.

The only thing that I wonder about is how farmers like the one at Polyface can provide food for millions of people. The industrial food system developed to get things everywhere and quickly. How we change that so everyone has adequate, good food at a reasonable price is beyond me at the moment.
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  -Dear Grocery Chains ..... Kiss My Organic Ass (non campaign rant) Husb2Sparkly  Jan-19-08 09:33 PM   #0 
  - It's a fad.  water   Jan-19-08 09:35 PM   #1 
  - Do you worry about health issues?  madeline_con   Jan-19-08 09:38 PM   #5 
  - Thanks for the welcome!  water   Jan-19-08 09:42 PM   #9 
  - I have faith in human science...  Lost-in-FL   Jan-19-08 09:44 PM   #12 
  - It's not the science, it's what food conglomerates know they  madeline_con   Jan-19-08 09:50 PM   #16 
  - There's lots of confusion about "Organic" labels  Lost-in-FL   Jan-19-08 09:56 PM   #21 
     - Amen.  Chovexani   Jan-19-08 10:04 PM   #27 
     - I eat lots of fresh produce, but I worry about what's on it.  madeline_con   Jan-19-08 10:14 PM   #35 
     - I see your point  Lost-in-FL   Jan-19-08 10:23 PM   #44 
     - I think they go hand in hand  Chovexani   Jan-19-08 10:23 PM   #45 
        - its currently -2 degrees here, what grows in this season???  LSK   Jan-19-08 10:46 PM   #55 
           - Frostbite?  Chovexani   Jan-19-08 10:48 PM   #56 
     - 8-6 Lives  Crisco   Jan-20-08 09:31 AM   #80 
     - True, true.  madeline_con   Jan-19-08 10:12 PM   #29 
  - Faith In Human Science Is Misplaced When the #1 Motive Is Profits  Crisco   Jan-20-08 09:29 AM   #79 
  - Do it a bit at a time  Chovexani   Jan-19-08 09:43 PM   #11 
  - It isn't a "status item"  Lost-in-FL   Jan-19-08 09:43 PM   #10 
     - I am in incredibly good shape! I walk and take the bus everywhere I go...  water   Jan-19-08 09:45 PM   #13 
     - There's definitely lots of "trash food"  Lost-in-FL   Jan-19-08 09:49 PM   #15 
     - That's utter nonsense. You clearly don't know what you're talking about.  dicksteele   Jan-20-08 09:37 AM   #83 
     - Organic isn't the problem, corporations are  Chovexani   Jan-19-08 09:47 PM   #14 
        - Here is a problem with getting the government involved...  water   Jan-19-08 09:53 PM   #18 
        - One of the many, many reasons we need a Dem in office  Chovexani   Jan-19-08 09:58 PM   #22 
        - The truth is...  water   Jan-19-08 10:01 PM   #24 
           - If it wasn't for Govment regulations...  Lost-in-FL   Jan-19-08 10:04 PM   #26 
           - There usually aren't competing tap water providers, for a variety of reasons.  water   Jan-19-08 10:08 PM   #28 
              - The demand is there and "the market" has failed  Chovexani   Jan-19-08 10:17 PM   #40 
              - Better way to spend taxes: Getting out of Iraq while implementing food labeling...  Lost-in-FL   Jan-19-08 10:18 PM   #42 
           - Food, period, should be one of our biggest taxspending priorities  Chovexani   Jan-19-08 10:12 PM   #30 
              - And you think that government regulations would lower food prices for them?  water   Jan-19-08 10:17 PM   #39 
                 - I'm confused here...  Lost-in-FL   Jan-19-08 10:54 PM   #57 
        - That's an awful big load of re-labeled Libertarianism you're selling. I ain't buying it.  dicksteele   Jan-20-08 09:36 AM   #82 
        - I wonder about that, too.  madeline_con   Jan-19-08 09:54 PM   #20 
           - I am still learning myself  Chovexani   Jan-19-08 10:14 PM   #33 
  - No doubt  DaveTheWave   Jan-19-08 09:37 PM   #2 
  - They conjur up images of Farmer Brown and his wife to make you feel good.  Husb2Sparkly   Jan-19-08 09:41 PM   #8 
  - Sure enough  Chovexani   Jan-19-08 09:52 PM   #17 
     - Marketing, marketing, marketing  Lost-in-FL   Jan-19-08 10:13 PM   #32 
        - Yep. Government labeling is a joke.  water   Jan-19-08 10:23 PM   #46 
        - Corporate labeling is a joke  Lost-in-FL   Jan-19-08 10:30 PM   #50 
           - Wouldn't you rather it not be dependent upon who is in office?  water   Jan-19-08 10:32 PM   #51 
              - It shouldn't depend upon...  Lost-in-FL   Jan-19-08 10:38 PM   #52 
        - Oh dear god I remember the "fat free" BS  Chovexani   Jan-19-08 10:26 PM   #47 
  - It is outrageous. People can fight back by growing a few things  durrrty libby   Jan-19-08 09:38 PM   #3 
  - And a couple of tomato plants in pots is do-able. n/t  madeline_con   Jan-19-08 09:39 PM   #6 
  - Here here  Chovexani   Jan-19-08 09:38 PM   #4 
  - i plant my own parsley,  pansypoo53219   Jan-19-08 09:40 PM   #7 
  - The label "organic" is a marketing ploy, nothing more.  alarimer   Jan-19-08 09:53 PM   #19 
  - I saw Pollan speak the other night...  XemaSab   Jan-20-08 02:47 AM   #70 
     - it was an eye-opening book for me  alarimer   Jan-20-08 09:21 AM   #77 
        - In the question and answer session someone basically asked him that  XemaSab   Jan-20-08 12:47 PM   #87 
  - Lots of Freepish replies in this thread... I am surprised...  ReverendDeuce   Jan-19-08 10:01 PM   #23 
  - You nailed it with the "freepish replies"...  Lost-in-FL   Jan-19-08 10:03 PM   #25 
  - Here, here!  AZBlue   Jan-19-08 10:55 PM   #58 
  - So buy the cheap stuff. The process to be...  TreasonousBastard   Jan-19-08 10:12 PM   #31 
  - Tell ya what .......  Husb2Sparkly   Jan-19-08 10:17 PM   #38 
     - I know about the recently loosened standards for labelling...  TreasonousBastard   Jan-20-08 12:05 PM   #86 
  - My hubby works for a supermarket, and I jsut asked him is they  napi21   Jan-19-08 10:14 PM   #34 
  - Exactly.  water   Jan-19-08 10:21 PM   #43 
     - Contain fewer vitamins...  Lost-in-FL   Jan-19-08 10:40 PM   #53 
     - I don't doubt that the organic foods are better. I had a rib roast for  napi21   Jan-19-08 11:08 PM   #61 
     - That sounds like corporate propaganda: real organic food has more vitamines  SpiralHawk   Jan-20-08 09:01 AM   #75 
  - Your nutritional training?  flvegan   Jan-19-08 10:16 PM   #36 
  - Who's talking nutrition? I'm talking marketing.  Husb2Sparkly   Jan-19-08 10:27 PM   #49 
  - Indeed. So again, your nutritional training?  flvegan   Jan-19-08 10:40 PM   #54 
     - Do you have an actual point or are you just consumed with starting something?  Husb2Sparkly   Jan-19-08 11:18 PM   #62 
        - Like I said, Sparky  flvegan   Jan-19-08 11:38 PM   #63 
           - Crickets are good too, though.  flvegan   Jan-20-08 12:59 AM   #68 
              - Demanding an immediate response...  Dorian Gray   Jan-20-08 08:05 AM   #73 
                 - His reply was completely disingenuous  Husb2Sparkly   Jan-20-08 09:04 AM   #76 
  - This is the weirdest post on this thread  JanMichael   Jan-20-08 08:15 AM   #74 
  - Safeway grossly overprices their organic items. Pretty much any non-sale items, really.  LeftyMom   Jan-19-08 10:16 PM   #37 
  - Really? Here it's just the opposite - Safeway's got some of the best buys on organic.  AZBlue   Jan-19-08 10:56 PM   #59 
     - Our local food co-op is non-profit and part of a larger buying group.  LeftyMom   Jan-19-08 11:01 PM   #60 
  - Don't shop at Safeway.  Gormy Cuss   Jan-19-08 10:18 PM   #41 
  - You are so right!  quantessd   Jan-20-08 02:17 AM   #69 
     - "Gourmet" foods were high markup items for special occasions or for ethnic cooking  Gormy Cuss   Jan-20-08 09:38 AM   #84 
  - Grow your own parsley! Much cheaper.  icymist   Jan-19-08 10:27 PM   #48 
  - I do believe that supply and demand will even things out.  quantessd   Jan-19-08 11:47 PM   #64 
  - If you like eating fruits and vegetables laden with pesticides, herbicides and fertilizers...  MiltonF   Jan-20-08 12:12 AM   #65 
  - Recently I ate at the Whole Foods Store buffet.  johnaries   Jan-20-08 12:23 AM   #66 
  - Whole Foods is a rip off. n/t  Lost-in-FL   Jan-20-08 09:40 AM   #85 
  - Unless YOU grow it or you personally know the grower, you are probably wasting your money  SoCalDem   Jan-20-08 12:26 AM   #67 
  - I always have to wonder if it is labeled Organic, but is actually *GMF.......  MagickMuffin   Jan-20-08 07:55 AM   #71 
  - Word! You have no idea what's in there anyway.  robbedvoter   Jan-20-08 08:00 AM   #72 
  - I Don't Recommend Buying Organics At Conventional Supermarkets  Crisco   Jan-20-08 09:26 AM   #78 
  - I think the Farmer's Market has the best. And they cut out the middle  cutlassmama   Jan-20-08 06:54 PM   #88 
  - Fair trade organic  midlife_mo_Jo   Jan-20-08 09:36 AM   #81 

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