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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:22 PM
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41. What Makes Mainstream Media Mainstream
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The real mass media are basically trying to divert people. Let them do something else, but dont bother us (us being the people who run the show). Let them get interested in professional sports, for example. Let everybody be crazed about professional sports or sex scandals or the personalities and their problems or something like that. Anything, as long as it isnt serious. Of course, the serious stuff is for the big guys. "We" take care of that.

What are the elite media, the agenda-setting ones? The New York Times and CBS, for example. Well, first of all, they are major, very profitable, corporations. Furthermore, most of them are either linked to, or outright owned by, much bigger corporations, like General Electric, Westinghouse, and so on. They are way up at the top of the power structure of the private economy which is a very tyrannical structure. Corporations are basically tyrannies, hierarchic, controled from above. If you dont like what they are doing you get out. The major media are just part of that system.

What about their institutional setting? Well, thats more or less the same. What they interact with and relate to is other major power centersthe government, other corporations, or the universities. Because the media are a doctrinal system they interact closely with the universities. Say you are a reporter writing a story on Southeast Asia or Africa, or something like that. Youre supposed to go over to the big university and find an expert who will tell you what to write, or else go to one of the foundations, like Brookings Institute or American Enterprise Institute and they will give you the words to say. These outside institutions are very similar to the media.

The universities, for example, are not independent institutions. There may be independent people scattered around in them but that is true of the media as well. And its generally true of corporations. Its true of Fascist states, for that matter. But the institution itself is parasitic. Its dependent on outside sources of support and those sources of support, such as private wealth, big corporations with grants, and the government (which is so closely interlinked with corporate power you can barely distinguish them), they are essentially what the universities are in the middle of. People within them, who dont adjust to that structure, who dont accept it and internalize it (you cant really work with it unless you internalize it, and believe it); people who dont do that are likely to be weeded out along the way, starting from kindergarten, all the way up. There are all sorts of filtering devices to get rid of people who are a pain in the neck and think independently. Those of you who have been through college know that the educational system is very highly geared to rewarding conformity and obedience; if you dont do that, you are a troublemaker. So, it is kind of a filtering device which ends up with people who really honestly (they arent lying) internalize the framework of belief and attitudes of the surrounding power system in the society. The elite institutions like, say, Harvard and Princeton and the small upscale colleges, for example, are very much geared to socialization. If you go through a place like Harvard, most of what goes on there is teaching manners; how to behave like a member of the upper classes, how to think the right thoughts, and so on.

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  -WHO OWNS THE U.S. CORPORATE MEDIA? Orwellian_Ghost  Jan-17-08 08:59 PM   #0 
  - And that is why it is time to start breaking up these Mega Corporations.  MadMaddie   Jan-17-08 09:03 PM   #1 
  - Oprah owns a big hunk of it, but you left her out nt  msongs   Jan-17-08 09:04 PM   #2 
  - What big chunk of it does Oprah own?  donheld   Jan-18-08 04:49 AM   #21 
  - Oprah will have her own network soon. OWN. Or Oprah Winfrey Network. Blows my mind.  TheGoldenRule   Jan-18-08 09:48 AM   #33 
     - She won't be the first n/t  spokane   Jan-18-08 07:09 PM   #51 
  - Thanks for this...  shoopnyc   Jan-17-08 09:05 PM   #3 
  - Interconnected  Orwellian_Ghost   Jan-17-08 09:07 PM   #4 
  - Big Media Interlocks with Corporate America  Orwellian_Ghost   Jan-17-08 09:09 PM   #5 
  - "We the mainstream people" need to be looking at a president who seeks..  Triana   Jan-17-08 10:03 PM   #9 
  - I was particularly interested in your "talk clock" which shows the corp media's favorite Dem  Sarah Ibarruri   Jan-17-08 09:16 PM   #6 
  - Great timing, I just had a debate with a hard core right winger  liberal N proud   Jan-17-08 09:19 PM   #7 
  - But were Iowa & NH stolen? That's the question. nt  TheGoldenRule   Jan-18-08 09:51 AM   #34 
  - something doesn't make sense about these numbers  onenote   Jan-17-08 09:35 PM   #8 
  - Thanks for pointing this out  Oeditpus Rex   Jan-18-08 01:30 PM   #47 
  - Frightening,isn't it?  Fed_Up_Grammy   Jan-17-08 10:08 PM   #10 
  - THEY TELL US WHAT IS IMPORTANT, WHAT TO THINK ABOUT, WHAT TO THINK  YEBBA   Jan-17-08 10:15 PM   #11 
  - "Free Press" my ass. Even with 60 it's still elitist.  JanMichael   Jan-17-08 10:19 PM   #12 
  - no wonder we have no real news anymore  madokie   Jan-17-08 10:19 PM   #13 
  - And instead of passing legislation to curtail this trend, our Congress  southerncrone   Jan-17-08 10:22 PM   #14 
  - like a virus, attaches itself to the host and multiplies  seemslikeadream   Jan-17-08 10:23 PM   #15 
  - Corporate or not, the media will operate as a business in a capitalist economy...  Writer   Jan-17-08 10:25 PM   #16 
  - Yeah, like this:  TheGoldenRule   Jan-18-08 09:54 AM   #35 
  - We don't live in a capitalist economy - we live in a regulated capitalist economy  aint_no_life_nowhere   Jan-18-08 01:06 PM   #46 
  - I love info. I love it even more when sourced --  snot   Jan-17-08 11:53 PM   #17 
  - Media deregulation under Reagan and Bush  aint_no_life_nowhere   Jan-17-08 11:57 PM   #18 
  - Time for a new label for 'corporatist'.....  dmosh42   Jan-18-08 04:19 AM   #19 
  - Don't forget Slick Willie  ProudDad   Jan-18-08 07:57 PM   #53 
  - I think John Edwards will be our own , modern-day 'trust-buster'.  AzDar   Jan-18-08 04:41 AM   #20 
  - Not likely.  Clark2008   Jan-18-08 06:07 AM   #26 
     - Maybe or maybe not. But Hillary or Obama are far more diabolically worse. nt  TheGoldenRule   Jan-18-08 09:56 AM   #36 
  - What Candidate Does the Corporate Media and Hell Most Corporations Support?  leftchick   Jan-18-08 05:02 AM   #22 
  - This post should have a sticky  malaise   Jan-18-08 06:02 AM   #23 
  - an awful lot completely ignore her complicity  leftchick   Jan-18-08 06:04 AM   #24 
     - Yep n/t  malaise   Jan-18-08 06:05 AM   #25 
  - I see you've listed part of the unelected shadow government of the  mmonk   Jan-18-08 06:09 AM   #27 
  - ...NSA, Homeland "Security," Big Brother, Inc. They decide; "elections" don't  Echo In Light   Jan-18-08 06:29 AM   #28 
  - this thread needs many many many kicks. Thank you. n/t  deacon   Jan-18-08 06:37 AM   #29 
  - A second kick for those who missed it yesterday  liberal N proud   Jan-18-08 09:24 AM   #30 
  - Kick n/t  malaise   Jan-18-08 09:41 AM   #31 
  - Bagdikian is a local export  wintersoulja   Jan-18-08 09:44 AM   #32 
  - Kicked and recommended.  Uncle Joe   Jan-18-08 10:03 AM   #37 
  - A pleasure and an obligation  Orwellian_Ghost   Jan-18-08 12:19 PM   #40 
     - The last sentence of Lippman's truly hits home.  Uncle Joe   Jan-18-08 12:42 PM   #43 
  - Ben Bagdikian was a prophet....  LanternWaste   Jan-18-08 10:16 AM   #38 
  - KICK & REC! nt  paparush   Jan-18-08 11:06 AM   #39 
  - What Makes Mainstream Media Mainstream  Orwellian_Ghost   Jan-18-08 12:22 PM   #41 
  - Excellent excellent thread, OG. Thank you!! K&R  Desertrose   Jan-18-08 12:35 PM   #42 
  - seems like murdoch owns more every damn day  spanone   Jan-18-08 12:44 PM   #44 
  - There were some great stats distributed on DU prior to the 2004 election  wiggs   Jan-18-08 12:49 PM   #45 
  - Thanks for posting this OG. Rec'd and bookmarked.  DCKit   Jan-18-08 02:03 PM   #48 
  - using distorted and misleading data to make the point about concentration doesnt' help  onenote   Jan-18-08 02:05 PM   #49 
  - Who owns the corporate media?  tbyg52   Jan-18-08 06:13 PM   #50 
  - Mom said, big business founded the country and it will always continue to run it...  Imagevision   Jan-18-08 07:12 PM   #52 
     - Mom was right  Orwellian_Ghost   Jan-19-08 10:03 PM   #54 
 

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