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11. His choice divided veteran Chicago political activists.
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 04:36 PM by indimuse
Mr. Obama was a 38-year-old state senator and University of Chicago lecturer, unknown in much of Mr. Rush's Congressional district. He lived in its most rarefied

neighborhood, Hyde Park. He was taking on a local legend, a former alderman and four-term incumbent who had given voters no obvious reason to displace him.

Mr. Rush's name recognition started off at 90 percent, Mr. Obama's at 11. Then Mr. Rush's son was murdered, leading Mr. Obama to put his campaign on hold. Later,

while vacationing in Hawaii with his family, he missed a high-profile vote in the Legislature and was pilloried. (One Chicago Tribune editorial began, "What a bunch of

gutless sheep.") Then President Clinton endorsed Mr. Rush.

"Campaigns are always, 'What's the narrative of the race?' " said Eric Adelstein, a media consultant in Chicago who worked on the Rush campaign. "In a sense, it was

'the Black Panther against the professor.' That's not a knock on Obama; but to run from Hyde Park, this little bastion of academia, this white community in the black

South Side -- it just seemed odd that he would make that choice as a kind of stepping out."

The episode revealed a lot about Senator Obama -- now running for president, against the odds again and with a relatively slim rsum. It showed his impatience with

the frustrations of his state Senate job; his outsize confidence; his fund-raising powers; his broad appeal; and his willingness to be what Abner J. Mikva, a former

congressman and supporter, calls "a very apt student of his own mistakes."

There they began the tedious process of challenging hundreds of signatures on the nominating petitions of state Sen. Alice Palmer, the longtime progressive activist from the city's South Side. And they kept challenging petitions until every one of Obama's four Democratic primary rivals was forced off the ballot.
Palmer served the district in the Illinois Senate for much of the 1990s. Decades earlier, she was working as a community organizer in the area when Obama was growing up in Hawaii and Indonesia. She risked her safe seat to run for Congress and touted Obama as a suitable successor, according to news accounts and interviews.

But when Palmer got clobbered in that November 1995 special congressional race, her supporters asked Obama to fold his campaign so she could easily retain her state Senate seat.

Obama not only refused to step aside, he filed challenges that nullified Palmer's hastily gathered nominating petitions, forcing her to withdraw.

"I liked Alice Palmer a lot. I thought she was a good public servant," Obama said. "It was very awkward. That part of it I wish had played out entirely differently."

His choice divided veteran Chicago political activists.

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  -I understand Obama's trying to tap into the "Youth Vote" but does he have to do it like this? KoKo01  Jan-17-08 03:12 PM   #0 
  - This is disturbing to me too...  polichick   Jan-17-08 03:17 PM   #1 
  - His choice divided veteran Chicago political activists.  indimuse   Jan-17-08 04:34 PM   #11 
     - Thanks for that post...  polichick   Jan-17-08 04:44 PM   #13 
     - I do unfortunately feel...Obama is for...  indimuse   Jan-17-08 04:50 PM   #14 
        - Yikes...  polichick   Jan-17-08 04:55 PM   #15 
     - Then President Clinton endorsed Mr. Rush and not Obama.  codeindigo   Jan-17-08 09:28 PM   #45 
  - Obama seems to have been brainwashed by "Slouching Toward Gomorrah" by Robert Bork.  TahitiNut   Jan-17-08 03:24 PM   #2 
  - Hmm, you may be onto something...  polichick   Jan-17-08 03:26 PM   #3 
  - his references to the "excesses" of that era  killbotfactory   Jan-17-08 03:28 PM   #4 
  - I'm no longer sure who or what his target is lately...  timeforarevolution   Jan-17-08 03:49 PM   #5 
  - You raise thoughtful questions...  KoKo01   Jan-17-08 04:01 PM   #8 
  - I think what he's saying is  tishaLA   Jan-17-08 05:01 PM   #16 
     - I thank you for your response, but I'm sorry...  timeforarevolution   Jan-17-08 05:17 PM   #18 
        - What bugs me about Obama  Marie26   Jan-17-08 06:24 PM   #20 
           - So Obama's desire "to make goverment 'cool' again"  tishaLA   Jan-17-08 06:54 PM   #23 
              - I think so.  Marie26   Jan-17-08 07:04 PM   #26 
                 - "Hello, I'm from the government and I'm here to help you"  tishaLA   Jan-17-08 07:11 PM   #27 
                    - You might do better to remind OBAMA that Reagan was a shitty president then  Hoof Hearted   Jan-17-08 07:34 PM   #35 
                       - I was unaware of Sen Obama saying he was wonderful  tishaLA   Jan-17-08 07:51 PM   #36 
  - Well, the GOP is also reaching out to lure young voters...  Atman   Jan-17-08 03:53 PM   #6 
  - Finally, I Get To See What The Brewhaha Is About. I Don't See Anything Wrong With His Statements.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jan-17-08 03:58 PM   #7 
  - That's not a liberal talking. nt  Marie26   Jan-17-08 04:02 PM   #9 
  - What Obama did was insane  blues90   Jan-17-08 04:14 PM   #10 
  - I think he truly hopes and thinks that Reagan "OPTIMISM" is what he's trying to bring to America...  KoKo01   Jan-17-08 06:18 PM   #19 
     - Agree. n/t  timeforarevolution   Jan-17-08 06:47 PM   #22 
     - Handlers or not , if Obama does not know the history of Reganomics  blues90   Jan-18-08 12:24 PM   #51 
  - Hell, he could have pointed to FDR, for CHRIST'S SAKE if he wanted to  Gloria   Jan-17-08 04:42 PM   #12 
  - Sadly...the "Youth Vote" doesn't remember FDR/Johnson's Poverty Program,/ Carter's Energy Savings  KoKo01   Jan-17-08 06:46 PM   #21 
     - Well said, Koko01  Gloria   Jan-17-08 07:00 PM   #24 
     - The 20-somethings that are coming out for him in droves  bullwinkle428   Jan-17-08 09:06 PM   #39 
  - I don't like his implication that he really is just pushing change...  tandem5   Jan-17-08 05:16 PM   #17 
  - He's very congenial...and working to have a New Vision for America...but Short on Specifics...  KoKo01   Jan-17-08 07:02 PM   #25 
  - Some younger people resent Boomers, think we got everything,  DemBones DemBones   Jan-17-08 07:13 PM   #28 
  - Yeah, because the Draft and VietNam were walks in the park. Because the criminal Nixon was a delight  WinkyDink   Jan-17-08 07:21 PM   #31 
  - It's quite sad.  AX10   Jan-17-08 09:09 PM   #41 
  - Free Pampers for All!  Canuckistanian   Jan-17-08 07:14 PM   #29 
  - Reagan's change should have been used as an example of "Be careful what you wish for."  WinkyDink   Jan-17-08 07:19 PM   #30 
  - I'm missing where Sen Obama disparages Clinton's  tishaLA   Jan-17-08 07:55 PM   #37 
     - The point he made was gratuitous, and the implications unfortunate. Sorry. He praised a Republican  WinkyDink   Jan-17-08 08:58 PM   #38 
        - I also don't see where he "praised a reppublican"  tishaLA   Jan-17-08 09:19 PM   #43 
  - He may not literally be DLC but he sounds just like them to me.  sfexpat2000   Jan-17-08 07:22 PM   #32 
  - I'm beginning to think that when Obama isn't speechifying  leftofthedial   Jan-17-08 07:23 PM   #33 
  - My thoughts exactly. He was very stuttery and vague in that 3-person debate.  WinkyDink   Jan-17-08 07:25 PM   #34 
  - Thanks for the ray gun reminder. Piece of crap he was.  lonestarnot   Jan-17-08 09:08 PM   #40 
  - He's very dismissive of the movements that gave him equal rights.  AX10   Jan-17-08 09:10 PM   #42 
  - Obama dismisses the progressive movements of...  AX10   Jan-17-08 09:20 PM   #44 
  - Uh... A couple problems with that...  Bishop Rook   Jan-17-08 10:08 PM   #46 
  - The appeal might be to  KoKo01   Jan-18-08 09:01 AM   #49 
  - There is more big government without accountability right now--  eridani   Jan-18-08 01:17 AM   #47 
  - When Obama speaks, I hear and see a man with a serious  Faux pas   Jan-18-08 04:42 AM   #48 
  - it's not the ''youth'' vote -- but whoever the hell ''reagan democrats'' were. nt  xchrom   Jan-18-08 09:44 AM   #50 

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