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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:52 PM
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51. Yes.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/2002101...

and the answer to your question is in the middle of paragraph two:

"The debate over this resolution in the Congress was in the finest traditions of American democracy. There is no social or political force greater than a free people united in a common and compelling objective. It is for that reason that I sought an additional resolution of support from the Congress to use force against Iraq, should force become necessary. While I appreciate receiving that support, my request for it did not, and my signing this resolution does not, constitute any change in the long-standing positions of the executive branch on either the President's constitutional authority to use force to deter, prevent, or respond to aggression or other threats to U.S. interests or on the constitutionality of the War Powers Resolution. On the important question of the threat posed by Iraq, however, the views and goals of the Congress, as expressed in H.J. Res. 114 and previous congressional resolutions and enactments, and those of the President are the same."
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  -Hagel: WH Originally wanted IWR in 2002 for ALL of Mideast !!! Laura PackYourBags  Jan-24-07 11:05 AM   #0 
  - Boy, Hagel is singing like a canary these days  demnan   Jan-24-07 11:07 AM   #1 
  - You are so right. It is amazing that our win in November was almost  Laura PackYourBags   Jan-24-07 11:13 AM   #7 
  - Thank you Mark Foley  goclark   Jan-24-07 12:00 PM   #33 
  - You know, never thought about it - but that could have been  Laura PackYourBags   Jan-24-07 01:02 PM   #53 
  - Thank Haggard too  malaise   Jan-24-07 02:51 PM   #72 
     - Out with them all~ nt  goclark   Jan-24-07 04:24 PM   #76 
  - Hagel probably feels that lifted "burden" like rush does for not  War Pigs   Jan-24-07 01:29 PM   #56 
  - Hagel makes it CRYSTAL CLEAR -> An Attack on Iran without authorization is a CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS!!  charles t   Jan-24-07 12:08 PM   #38 
  - Constitution crisis more than that  Bitwit1234   Jan-24-07 12:57 PM   #52 
     - An act of treason  Lasher   Jan-25-07 02:49 AM   #94 
  - Yes. And the song he's singing is, "I want to be president."  Straight Shooter   Jan-24-07 12:43 PM   #46 
  - And Bush is operating under the original WH resolution  Norquist Nemesis   Jan-24-07 11:07 AM   #2 
  - Well, this puts a different spin on things if you ask me..  Virginia Dare   Jan-24-07 11:08 AM   #3 
  - My first thought as well.  emperor72   Jan-24-07 11:14 AM   #8 
  - Yes. Get media to start asking Warner and Graham about it.  OregonBlue   Jan-24-07 11:35 AM   #26 
  - Horse-trading  redqueen   Jan-24-07 11:16 AM   #12 
  - I think any senator, right or left, who knew about PNAC...  Just-plain-Kathy   Jan-24-07 12:34 PM   #43 
  - You're so right on this one. Cripes, the already knew he was `  acmavm   Jan-24-07 11:20 AM   #20 
  - I love it Frat Rat, that is what he is exactly.  alyce douglas   Jan-24-07 12:32 PM   #42 
  - I have said repeatedly that IWR was NEGOTIATED to get Syria and Iran OFF the table  blm   Jan-24-07 11:47 AM   #29 
  - Right,  Castleman   Jan-24-07 12:32 PM   #41 
  - Then why did dems vote for Syria authorization act?  The Count   Jan-24-07 04:31 PM   #78 
  - Syria ACCOUNTABILITY Act. Not war authorization. And Kerry has gone to Syria 3X  blm   Jan-24-07 07:02 PM   #82 
  - Wow, I've never heard that. Do you have a lnk to a source?  cui bono   Jan-25-07 02:13 AM   #93 
  - I knew Bush would abuse the power given him under IWR. Why didn't congress?  ItsTheMediaStupid   Jan-24-07 12:06 PM   #35 
  - Like giving a madman a gun.  tabasco   Jan-24-07 12:09 PM   #39 
  - "madman and a gun"?????? How about deranged man and a nuclear button? e/t  emald   Jan-24-07 02:12 PM   #65 
  - OT... Scott Ritter now writes: Stop Iran war before it starts..  halobeam   Jan-24-07 11:45 PM   #90 
  - That's probably why they gave him power. They didn't think he'd invade the entire  mzmolly   Jan-24-07 06:51 PM   #81 
  - kick and nom... just think what War Boy had done had he got it  wakeme2008   Jan-24-07 11:08 AM   #4 
  - He's not done yet!  Blue State Native   Jan-24-07 11:33 AM   #25 
  - K&R  OnceUponTimeOnTheNet   Jan-24-07 11:10 AM   #5 
  - H-O-L-Y SHIT!  originalpckelly   Jan-24-07 11:12 AM   #6 
  - H-O-L-Y SHIT for me too.  Tin Man   Jan-24-07 11:20 AM   #19 
  - Wow. Exactly what I was thinking. HO-LEEEE SHIT!!!  joeunderdog   Jan-24-07 01:53 PM   #63 
     - I gotta say it too...HOLY SHIT!!!!  progressoid   Jan-24-07 02:32 PM   #68 
  - Ironically, that was this atheist's initial reaction, too!  Zhade   Jan-24-07 07:17 PM   #84 
  - Wow. They haven't veered from their original goals.  sparosnare   Jan-24-07 11:14 AM   #9 
  - yes. iran had better  Laura PackYourBags   Jan-24-07 11:19 AM   #17 
     - That's a great, great cartoon  Nostradammit   Jan-24-07 01:44 PM   #59 
        - Yes - foreign press - have great cartoons. From Germany  Laura PackYourBags   Jan-24-07 02:10 PM   #64 
           - Thank You!  Nostradammit   Jan-24-07 02:21 PM   #67 
           - Another thank you. Those are excellent. nt  crickets   Jan-25-07 03:24 AM   #95 
  - Makes sense, really.  redqueen   Jan-24-07 11:15 AM   #10 
  - their plan was for world dominance, and oil, what more needs  alyce douglas   Jan-24-07 12:36 PM   #44 
  - Thank you  malaise   Jan-24-07 02:54 PM   #73 
  - yes  mmonk   Jan-24-07 11:16 AM   #11 
  - They don't ask permission for their 'adventures' in  redqueen   Jan-24-07 11:17 AM   #15 
  - Sounds like they lifted the whole plan direct from the PNAC website.  Old and In the Way   Jan-24-07 11:17 AM   #13 
  - The '97 "Clean Break" document called for Iraq, Lebanon, Syria and then Iran.  leveymg   Jan-24-07 11:22 AM   #22 
     - Hi Mark!  Old and In the Way   Jan-24-07 11:55 AM   #31 
     - Howdie, OAITW  leveymg   Jan-24-07 02:47 PM   #70 
     - Interesting letter from PNAC to Asshat in 2001  Laura PackYourBags   Jan-24-07 12:01 PM   #34 
     - Thanks for that  leveymg   Jan-24-07 02:49 PM   #71 
     - Notice the last signatory?  Zhade   Jan-24-07 07:19 PM   #85 
     - A Clean Break, PNAC and The U.S. National Security Strategy  slipslidingaway   Jan-24-07 01:30 PM   #57 
        - ._  leveymg   Jan-24-07 01:48 PM   #60 
           - This earlier document 'A Clean Break' is rarely mentioned...  slipslidingaway   Jan-24-07 09:06 PM   #86 
  - K&R n/t  Jcrowley   Jan-24-07 11:17 AM   #14 
  - If Congress refused to authorize outside Iraq in'02, then Bush can't argue now that IWR gave him any  leveymg   Jan-24-07 11:18 AM   #16 
  - It's what we always thought they were up to...  SaveOurDemocracy   Jan-24-07 11:19 AM   #18 
  - I sure am happy that we know about this. This means that  acmavm   Jan-24-07 11:21 AM   #21 
  - I'm with you, I didn't know there were restrictions..you sure learn a lot here at DU.  Just-plain-Kathy   Jan-24-07 02:33 PM   #69 
  - Evidently, most everyone in DC fears Bush will expand the war intentionally.  LonelyLRLiberal   Jan-24-07 11:26 AM   #23 
  - they better stop this madman.  alyce douglas   Jan-24-07 12:39 PM   #45 
  - Wow. Coming from a republican is more damaging then had this  Chimichurri   Jan-24-07 11:28 AM   #24 
  - The committee that read this DEFINETELY has explaining to do.  halobeam   Jan-24-07 11:38 AM   #27 
     - Absolutely. I'm shocked this is the first we've heard about it outright.  Chimichurri   Jan-24-07 01:50 PM   #61 
  - kick  Klukie   Jan-24-07 11:45 AM   #28 
  - !  Faye   Jan-24-07 11:50 AM   #30 
  - WOW  Marie26   Jan-24-07 11:58 AM   #32 
  - Wes Clark spoke about this...  CarolNYC   Jan-24-07 12:06 PM   #36 
  - U-tube of Clark telling Werner to take it out?  NCarolinawoman   Jan-25-07 12:11 AM   #92 
  - Damn, there really is a monster under the bed.  DemSinceBirth   Jan-24-07 12:06 PM   #37 
  - Was there a signing statement to go along with the IWR?  Cruzan   Jan-24-07 12:28 PM   #40 
  - Welcome to DU Cruzan  alyce douglas   Jan-24-07 12:45 PM   #47 
  - Yes.  Norquist Nemesis   Jan-24-07 12:52 PM   #51 
     - Thanks. n/t  slipslidingaway   Jan-24-07 01:50 PM   #62 
  - So Hagel is singing. Who will be next? Scooter?  Tatiana   Jan-24-07 12:45 PM   #48 
  - Sure would like to see that guy  rateyes   Jan-24-07 12:46 PM   #49 
  - Hi RE. Speaking of Repugs coming out of the closet, do you  Laura PackYourBags   Jan-24-07 01:05 PM   #54 
     - Hagel said that he wanted every senator to look in the  rateyes   Jan-25-07 09:34 AM   #99 
  - The Senate is now seeing that IWR being CHALLENGED by these thugs and are scared shitless  in_cog_ni_to   Jan-24-07 12:51 PM   #50 
  - Gee really Hagel, you think?  Mrspeeker   Jan-24-07 01:09 PM   #55 
  - good point. It is like the repubs who are speaking up now were  Laura PackYourBags   Jan-24-07 10:30 PM   #89 
  - This doesn't surprise me.  fooj   Jan-24-07 01:36 PM   #58 
  - This reminds me of something I've always thought  Generator   Jan-24-07 02:15 PM   #66 
  - our media is very untrusthworthy and unworthy to not give  alyce douglas   Jan-25-07 10:38 AM   #101 
  - How will the Democratic Congress RESPOND to an Iranian "Gulf of Tonkin" incident?  charles t   Jan-24-07 03:15 PM   #74 
  - PNAC PNAC PNAC  StrictlyRockers   Jan-24-07 03:59 PM   #75 
  - PNAC (and the successor organization)  liam_laddie   Jan-24-07 04:29 PM   #77 
  - Hagel also cut into Bush's "plan" today  stevietheman   Jan-24-07 05:11 PM   #79 
  - Thank goodness he was somewhat limited.  mzmolly   Jan-24-07 06:50 PM   #80 
  - But 9/11 was not an inside job....  Phrogman   Jan-24-07 07:10 PM   #83 
  - Whew! We could have had a new world war on our hands  Canuckistanian   Jan-24-07 09:11 PM   #87 
  - That darn Bush.  Octafish   Jan-24-07 09:30 PM   #88 
  - I remember that. The language about "the region" was a red flag  Hailtothechimp   Jan-24-07 11:46 PM   #91 
  - A lot of the "evidence" you see of Iran invasion plans is explained  GreenZoneLT   Jan-25-07 03:44 AM   #96 
  - Another "General Clark's been saying that for years!!"  Sparkly   Jan-25-07 08:22 AM   #97 
  - Iraq = FOB  texanforclark   Jan-25-07 08:44 AM   #98 
  - Why didn't Lugar, Hagel, or Biden  femrap   Jan-25-07 10:27 AM   #100 
 

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