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Response to Reply #90
107. Lots of good questions!
1- Yesterday I read (I think via Steve Clemmons) a suggestion that perhaps you came upon a "fake" spy/selling weapons thing and for this reason the MSM and the state's secrets and all that.

Mr. Clemmons did not do his homework; no research. Because that was the first thing the Senate Judiciary Committee had to rule out before they took my case officially/formally and investigated it. In June & July 2002, two senior senators, Grassley (R) & Leahy (D), summoned several FBI-DOJ and DOD officials to rule out: 1- no covert operations involved; 2- No double agent situation in Dickersons' case. And they did. Mr. Clemmons is insulting these two senators' judgment and common sense?

2-Looking back, was there ever a time in which you recall being given any reason to back off (via your direct supervisor or otherwise?)?

No. In fact, the initial report was issued by the agent in charge of Turkish CI at the FBI Washington Field Office; SA Saccher. I was dragged into it later.

3- I still don't understand how state secrecy can be retroactively invoked.
It can't. However, no one challenged it. The congress took it as an order and obliged...
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  Sibel Edmonds case: Facts and Thanks. lukery  Jan-09-08 05:58 PM   #0 
   I'm sorry that happened lukery  seemslikeadream   Jan-09-08 06:03 PM   #1 
   We all are.  leveymg   Jan-09-08 06:36 PM   #2 
      Let's Hope It Gets More  randyconspiracybuff   Jan-09-08 06:56 PM   #8 
         "International"  lukery   Jan-09-08 07:05 PM   #14 
            Yeah, 'foreign' and 'international'  randyconspiracybuff   Jan-09-08 07:31 PM   #23 
               I use some of my family and friends to see long these issues take to reach  astonamous   Jan-09-08 08:37 PM   #88 
   sibel will be dropping by  lukery   Jan-09-08 06:40 PM   #3 
   Thank you Sibel.  onethatcares   Jan-09-08 06:50 PM   #4 
   Sibel is a true American hero.  Roland99   Jan-09-08 06:54 PM   #5 
   Great - do you know when she is due on the site?  ajeffersonian   Jan-09-08 06:55 PM   #6 
   Any moment now...  randyconspiracybuff   Jan-09-08 06:58 PM   #9 
   Probably when I'm upstairs tending to fixing my dinner.  Roland99   Jan-09-08 07:00 PM   #10 
   soon!  lukery   Jan-09-08 07:01 PM   #11 
   Can I take 14 1/2 min. in the pool?  Roland99   Jan-09-08 07:02 PM   #12 
   8pm Eastern  lukery   Jan-09-08 07:13 PM   #15 
   Thanks, Lukery, and thank you, Sibel...  timeforarevolution   Jan-09-08 06:56 PM   #7 
   Thanks Sibel  ajeffersonian   Jan-09-08 07:03 PM   #13 
   Sibel Edmonds and other Whistleblowers Group  seemslikeadream   Jan-09-08 07:19 PM   #16 
   A heart-felt thanks to the both of you...  Steven_S   Jan-09-08 07:23 PM   #17 
   non DUers  lukery   Jan-09-08 07:25 PM   #18 
   Thank you, lukery. n/t  antigop   Jan-09-08 07:29 PM   #21 
      lukery and Sibel you fill in the blanks and I thank you!  4Freedom   Jan-09-08 07:43 PM   #28 
         Thank You  StateSecrets   Jan-09-08 08:24 PM   #71 
            Thank you very, very much.  4Freedom   Jan-09-08 09:24 PM   #129 
            THANK YOU  elleng   Jan-09-08 09:38 PM   #145 
            Thank you so much.  kas125   Jan-09-08 11:31 PM   #179 
   Wow! She may be stopping by? THANK YOU, SIBEL. THANK YOU.  antigop   Jan-09-08 07:27 PM   #19 
   Sibel, Thank You. America needs you now more than ever.  Twist_U_Up   Jan-09-08 07:29 PM   #20 
   Thank You, Ms. Edmonds  fascisthunter   Jan-09-08 07:30 PM   #22 
   K&R and a thank you to Ms. Edmonds.  Kurovski   Jan-09-08 07:34 PM   #24 
   Sibel is the same as Larry Flint, all show and no go. She can't write a book  CK_John   Jan-09-08 07:39 PM   #25 
   Minority report  ajeffersonian   Jan-09-08 07:47 PM   #29 
   She knew the rules going in. Time to dance or go home. n/t  CK_John   Jan-09-08 07:56 PM   #37 
      What rules?  ajeffersonian   Jan-09-08 08:07 PM   #42 
         Ask her? n/t  CK_John   Jan-09-08 08:11 PM   #47 
            Are You Marc Grossman?  randyconspiracybuff   Jan-09-08 08:16 PM   #56 
            No. n/t  CK_John   Jan-09-08 08:17 PM   #59 
               Eric Edelman?  seemslikeadream   Jan-09-08 08:19 PM   #63 
                  Thanks from our Whistleblowers  StateSecrets   Jan-09-08 09:14 PM   #121 
                     Thank you, thank you, thank you.  pberq   Jan-10-08 10:07 AM   #206 
            Why don't you? She's here.  ajeffersonian   Jan-09-08 08:17 PM   #57 
               What is there to know, she says I know something but "I can't tell you". I  CK_John   Jan-09-08 08:24 PM   #72 
                  I KNOW you have NO idea what you are talking about  seemslikeadream   Jan-09-08 08:27 PM   #75 
                  What about the State Secrets Privilege?  ajeffersonian   Jan-09-08 08:34 PM   #84 
                  You are unbelievable  Sydnie   Jan-09-08 10:15 PM   #172 
   Further - what "bucks" ?  ajeffersonian   Jan-09-08 07:55 PM   #34 
   Soooooooooo easy for you to say  seemslikeadream   Jan-09-08 08:13 PM   #50 
   By the way...  randyconspiracybuff   Jan-09-08 08:18 PM   #60 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-09-08 08:20 PM   #65 
   "the bipartisan nature of the guilty"  RuleOfNah   Jan-09-08 07:41 PM   #26 
   Sibel is a true patriot  upi402   Jan-09-08 07:43 PM   #27 
   thanks lukery and Sibel...this is the most important issue in my lifetime  xiamiam   Jan-09-08 07:48 PM   #30 
   one quick question...has olbermann asked for an interview?  xiamiam   Jan-09-08 07:50 PM   #31 
   no n/t  lukery   Jan-09-08 07:55 PM   #35 
   Question for Sibel:  JackBeck   Jan-09-08 07:51 PM   #32 
   I can answer that one  lukery   Jan-09-08 07:58 PM   #38 
      I know most of the answer.  JackBeck   Jan-09-08 08:02 PM   #39 
   It's about time we felt LESS supression of the discussion about Sibel Edmonds...  MrMickeysMom   Jan-09-08 07:51 PM   #33 
   Sibel  WillyBill   Jan-09-08 07:56 PM   #36 
   Welcome to DU WillyBill!  Viva_La_Revolution   Jan-09-08 10:19 PM   #174 
   Thank You DU  StateSecrets   Jan-09-08 08:05 PM   #40 
   have any msm come foreward since the uk article for interviews?  xiamiam   Jan-09-08 08:07 PM   #41 
   Not Even One  StateSecrets   Jan-09-08 08:10 PM   #45 
      What Can We Average Citizens Do to Help?  fascisthunter   Jan-09-08 08:12 PM   #48 
      suggestions  StateSecrets   Jan-09-08 09:10 PM   #117 
         Post #116 has links to all Congressional contact info and how to send an LTE to papers.  Roland99   Jan-09-08 09:11 PM   #118 
         Kudos  StateSecrets   Jan-09-08 09:17 PM   #122 
            Wish I could turn into Jack Bauer and "convince" some in the media to wake up!  Roland99   Jan-09-08 09:19 PM   #123 
               You'd Have to Waterboard Some People...  randyconspiracybuff   Jan-09-08 09:20 PM   #125 
                  Nah...just bite into their necks like Hannibal Lecter  Roland99   Jan-09-08 09:22 PM   #126 
         I Will Do So  fascisthunter   Jan-09-08 09:39 PM   #148 
         What about those in Congress in charge of funding "Homeland Security"?  mmonk   Jan-09-08 09:48 PM   #153 
         Lieberman?  lukery   Jan-09-08 09:50 PM   #156 
            No, heck no.  mmonk   Jan-09-08 09:55 PM   #159 
         Thanks, Sibel...  BradBlog   Jan-10-08 03:33 AM   #194 
      unbelievable really...how do we organize behind this issue?  xiamiam   Jan-09-08 08:17 PM   #58 
      Again and again this makes the MSM part of the crimes and  astonamous   Jan-09-08 08:26 PM   #74 
      The MSM is Bought and Paid for... They are Responsible for Too Much  fascisthunter   Jan-09-08 08:28 PM   #77 
      Many Thanks  StateSecrets   Jan-09-08 09:12 PM   #119 
      Sibel, first of all, thank you very much for refusing to give up, even in the face of ...  kgfnally   Jan-09-08 08:37 PM   #89 
         Why should I care?  lukery   Jan-09-08 08:50 PM   #101 
         Thank you lukery, that was *exactly* the sort of thing I was after  kgfnally   Jan-09-08 09:03 PM   #112 
         Because:  StateSecrets   Jan-09-08 09:53 PM   #157 
            Thank you  kgfnally   Jan-10-08 12:16 AM   #186 
            Am deeply appreciative  AikidoSoul   Jan-10-08 08:35 PM   #227 
   I am honored  ajeffersonian   Jan-09-08 08:11 PM   #46 
   Welcome Sibel  lukery   Jan-09-08 08:13 PM   #52 
   WE LOVE YOU SIBEL  seemslikeadream   Jan-09-08 08:14 PM   #54 
   (i don't think i knew about this group. thanks for the link.) n/t  orleans   Jan-10-08 01:56 AM   #190 
   Group of 1?  seemslikeadream   Jan-10-08 12:27 PM   #208 
   I didn't know about this group either, SLaD  Hope2006DU Moderator   Jan-10-08 12:59 PM   #212 
   Any denials?  ajeffersonian   Jan-09-08 08:14 PM   #55 
   I think She's received SILENCE  randyconspiracybuff   Jan-09-08 08:19 PM   #61 
      no denials  lukery   Jan-09-08 08:29 PM   #79 
   Thank you, Sibel. You are very courageous. And please,  Texas Explorer   Jan-09-08 08:19 PM   #62 
   Here is a Quote for you  StateSecrets   Jan-09-08 08:22 PM   #68 
      Are they not others who can ...  wildbilln864   Jan-09-08 08:30 PM   #80 
         there are others  lukery   Jan-09-08 08:34 PM   #83 
         re: there are others  cbears34   Jan-10-08 09:19 AM   #202 
         Witnesses  StateSecrets   Jan-09-08 08:37 PM   #87 
            could you place odds?  upi402   Jan-09-08 11:34 PM   #180 
   Sibel....  wildbilln864   Jan-09-08 08:22 PM   #67 
   wow -- what an honor to see your words here. Thank YOU, Sibel, for fighting.  nashville_brook   Jan-09-08 08:23 PM   #70 
   Your Quote  ajeffersonian   Jan-09-08 08:27 PM   #76 
   Exactly  StateSecrets   Jan-09-08 08:31 PM   #81 
      With greatest respect...  warren pease   Jan-10-08 09:26 AM   #204 
   Bless you Sibel and Lukery and thank you both for all you have done :)  SalmonChantedEvening   Jan-09-08 08:36 PM   #85 
   Thanks for all you are doing Ms Edmonds  supernova   Jan-09-08 08:44 PM   #94 
   I certainly will  StateSecrets   Jan-09-08 08:49 PM   #98 
      My name is Denice Sharpe  supernova   Jan-09-08 08:57 PM   # 
         Nice to Meet you Denice:-)  StateSecrets   Jan-09-08 09:36 PM   #140 
   Thank YOU, Ms. Edmonds!!  mycritters2   Jan-09-08 08:49 PM   #99 
   Thank you!  Lugnut   Jan-09-08 08:50 PM   #102 
   There are certain people I think of in some way almost every day of my life.  whereismyparty   Jan-09-08 08:59 PM   #108 
   Thank You  StateSecrets   Jan-09-08 09:02 PM   #111 
   What's Next?  ajeffersonian   Jan-09-08 09:05 PM   #114 
   Thank YOU, Sibel!  SeattleGirl   Jan-09-08 09:37 PM   #143 
   Thank you Sibel  lovuian   Jan-10-08 01:10 AM   #188 
   our warmest regards and heart felt thanks, Ms. Edmonds...  mike_c   Jan-10-08 01:53 AM   #189 
   Thank YOU very much for service above and beyond the call of duty.  Orsino   Jan-10-08 07:55 AM   #197 
   Sibel, thanks so much! You've been an inspiration every day for me!  calipendence   Jan-10-08 01:24 PM   #214 
   Sugar maple drips drop by drop  Justice Is Comin   Jan-09-08 08:07 PM   #43 
   Another nonDUer asks...  lukery   Jan-09-08 08:09 PM   #44 
   the uk article is supposedly only 20% of what they were given, will be there be more from them..and  xiamiam   Jan-09-08 08:12 PM   #49 
   A Good Question  StateSecrets   Jan-09-08 08:19 PM   #64 
      don't call once  lukery   Jan-09-08 08:23 PM   #69 
      im in...someone here has a list of all the congress numbers to call and email  xiamiam   Jan-09-08 08:31 PM   #82 
         An Excellent Idea  StateSecrets   Jan-09-08 08:47 PM   #97 
         Here are some Congressional and news media email addresses and contact info >>>>>>>>>>  Roland99   Jan-09-08 09:06 PM   #116 
         Thanks for the media list - some LTTE suggestions  NewJeffCT   Jan-10-08 09:10 AM   #200 
            Excellent advice! n/t  Roland99   Jan-10-08 09:24 AM   #203 
         Media and congressional contact lists...  warren pease   Jan-10-08 09:43 AM   #205 
      ive participated in a few amazing organized experiences here on du..there are other blogs as well  xiamiam   Jan-09-08 08:25 PM   #73 
         It's not lack of interest...  warren pease   Jan-10-08 10:24 AM   #207 
   Because There Was No Controlled Demolition  randyconspiracybuff   Jan-09-08 08:14 PM   #53 
      2 planes hit, 3 buildings collapsed.  soulcore   Jan-10-08 02:58 PM   #218 
   Thanks to you lukery, and of course, Ms. Edmonds.  BushDespiser12   Jan-09-08 08:13 PM   #51 
   Sibel, say it loud.  ingin   Jan-09-08 08:21 PM   #66 
   Sorry  StateSecrets   Jan-09-08 08:29 PM   #78 
   very bold to post the photos on your site...any response from that?  xiamiam   Jan-09-08 08:36 PM   #86 
   No Denials  StateSecrets   Jan-09-08 08:38 PM   #91 
   rogue gallery of americas most wanted ...nt  xiamiam   Jan-09-08 08:41 PM   #92 
   They are perfect 10s!  Roland99   Jan-09-08 08:42 PM   #93 
   They are perfect 10s!  ImForGore   Jan-10-08 12:58 PM   #211 
   Any chance that the question marks become real faces anytime soon?  BushDespiser12   Jan-09-08 08:50 PM   #100 
   Surely, one day soon  StateSecrets   Jan-09-08 08:59 PM   #109 
   it's like christmas again!  lukery   Jan-09-08 09:03 PM   #113 
   ? Can Only Be Dick Cheney  randyconspiracybuff   Jan-09-08 09:19 PM   #124 
      no cheney  lukery   Jan-09-08 09:23 PM   #127 
         I was Joking...  randyconspiracybuff   Jan-09-08 09:38 PM   #144 
            it's difficult to imagine...  lukery   Jan-09-08 09:46 PM   #152 
   Perle looks every bit the Dark Lord.  4Freedom   Jan-09-08 08:56 PM   #105 
      You mean this guy  BushDespiser12   Jan-09-08 09:24 PM   #130 
         Priceless!  StateSecrets   Jan-09-08 09:30 PM   #135 
         That certainly wins the prize for ugly!  4Freedom   Jan-09-08 09:48 PM   #154 
         You mean this guy  seemslikeadream   Jan-09-08 10:12 PM   #171 
   pics and names  lukery   Jan-09-08 08:45 PM   #95 
   Thank You  RainDog   Jan-09-08 08:38 PM   #90 
      Lots of good questions!  StateSecrets   Jan-09-08 08:57 PM   #107 
         Thanks again  RainDog   Jan-09-08 09:13 PM   #120 
            Not at all  StateSecrets   Jan-09-08 09:28 PM   #133 
            i can answer this one  lukery   Jan-09-08 09:29 PM   #134 
   I think the big danger is...  AntiFascist   Jan-09-08 08:47 PM   #96 
   The Usual MO  StateSecrets   Jan-09-08 09:23 PM   #128 
      Great advice, thanks for that!  AntiFascist   Jan-09-08 09:39 PM   #146 
   check posts here by Octafish, bobthedrummer and others  kineneb   Jan-09-08 09:53 PM   #158 
      An Excellent book  StateSecrets   Jan-09-08 10:02 PM   #163 
         here it is  lukery   Jan-09-08 10:05 PM   #165 
            Looks like an important article!  AntiFascist   Jan-10-08 05:07 PM   #223 
   Wow....K&R....  Bennyboy   Jan-09-08 08:52 PM   #103 
   new pic  lukery   Jan-09-08 08:54 PM   #104 
   Sibel, be safe  bluesmail   Jan-09-08 08:56 PM   #106 
   Have you talked to Bill Moyers?  wildbilln864   Jan-09-08 09:02 PM   #110 
   Moyers is a great idea!  supernova   Jan-09-08 09:06 PM   #115 
   No  StateSecrets   Jan-09-08 09:27 PM   #132 
      WBTV  lukery   Jan-09-08 09:31 PM   #136 
      Bet the ratings would be good.  mmonk   Jan-09-08 10:11 PM   #170 
      Rather has been doing great work on his HDNet show. Maybe he might take the angle of covering why  Hissyspit   Jan-09-08 11:37 PM   #181 
   Ask AP  lukery   Jan-09-08 09:26 PM   #131 
   Done!  Roland99   Jan-09-08 09:35 PM   #138 
   Interesting.  mmonk   Jan-09-08 10:19 PM   #173 
   This sounds like a perfect subject for PBS Frontline.  FORREST GRUMP   Jan-09-08 09:31 PM   #137 
   Oops. Self delete.  whereismyparty   Jan-09-08 09:36 PM   #141 
   John Bircher Society  lukery   Jan-09-08 09:36 PM   #139 
   I'm on their mailing list because they are simply what they are.  4Freedom   Jan-09-08 09:43 PM   #151 
   I emailed McClatchey's head investigative reporter.  4Freedom   Jan-09-08 09:37 PM   #142 
   McClatchey has been contacted before.  mmonk   Jan-10-08 07:51 AM   #196 
   Since filmmaking is my background...  whereismyparty   Jan-09-08 09:39 PM   #147 
   And you accomplished that:-)  StateSecrets   Jan-09-08 09:56 PM   #160 
   Maybe making a hollywood film would inspire a real investigation  Voice for Peace   Jan-10-08 02:01 AM   #191 
   What about talking to Mark Cuban and HD Net (and Dan Rather)?  Roland99   Jan-09-08 09:40 PM   #149 
   Thank you lukery.  mmonk   Jan-09-08 09:42 PM   #150 
   Grateful  StateSecrets   Jan-09-08 09:59 PM   #161 
      Thank you for coming forth.  mmonk   Jan-09-08 10:00 PM   #162 
   Thank you lukery and Sibel  DemReadingDU   Jan-09-08 09:50 PM   #155 
   Whistleblowers always welcome! Thanks Sibel  Echo In Light   Jan-09-08 10:04 PM   #164 
   Hi, Sibel.  JackBeck   Jan-09-08 10:09 PM   #166 
   So Long For Now  StateSecrets   Jan-09-08 10:09 PM   #167 
   Goodnight and take care! And THANKS!  Roland99   Jan-09-08 10:11 PM   #168 
   Thank you very much  lukery   Jan-09-08 10:11 PM   #169 
   No, thank you  Sydnie   Jan-09-08 10:38 PM   #175 
   Don't be a stranger, ok?  JackBeck   Jan-09-08 10:39 PM   #176 
   I'm just so honored that you have joined us here at DU.  Viva_La_Revolution   Jan-09-08 10:46 PM   #177 
   Thank you, Sibel, for your courage and tenacity. Stay safe please!  vickiss   Jan-09-08 11:16 PM   #178 
   Hi, Sibel.  Hissyspit   Jan-09-08 11:52 PM   #182 
   Thank you for coming here, Sibel  kgfnally   Jan-10-08 12:00 AM   #183 
   Please stay safe Sybel..  rAVES   Jan-10-08 12:11 AM   #185 
   A heartfelt thanks to you, Sibel,  colorado_ufo   Jan-10-08 02:29 AM   #192 
   Thank you for visiting us - nice quote in your sig line, too  NewJeffCT   Jan-10-08 09:17 AM   #201 
   Thank you for your service to your country.  lumberjack_jeff   Jan-10-08 01:24 PM   #213 
   Kicking to read later  bonito   Jan-10-08 12:00 AM   #184 
   You are a heroine, Sibel. How can we help?  leftofthedial   Jan-10-08 12:55 AM   #187 
   Kicked, recommended, bookmarked, memorized  walldude   Jan-10-08 03:04 AM   #193 
   Thank you, Sibel, you are an inspiration  Mithreal   Jan-10-08 05:54 AM   #195 
   I can remember when the Soviet Union's News Services were  NoFederales   Jan-10-08 08:01 AM   #198 
   Hello Sibel thank you for your work  subsuelo   Jan-10-08 08:57 AM   #199 
   Thank you for all you've done Sibel  George Oilwellian   Jan-10-08 12:29 PM   #209 
   Late arrival: Thank you lukery & Sibel!  JackRiddler   Jan-10-08 12:37 PM   #210 
   Sibel, I'm so sorry I missed you!  loudsue   Jan-10-08 01:45 PM   #215 
   always a big kick for THE BRAVE, THE INTELLIGENT,  ooglymoogly   Jan-10-08 02:05 PM   #216 
   Thank you Sibel Edmonds!  Anarcho-Socialist   Jan-10-08 02:52 PM   #217 
   wow  elizfeelinggreat   Jan-10-08 03:28 PM   #219 
   Salutes to the both of you!  whyzayker   Jan-10-08 03:43 PM   #220 
   I am probably too late....  femrap   Jan-10-08 04:51 PM   #221 
   K &R. It is us who owe her many thanks...  Mr_Jefferson_24   Jan-10-08 04:56 PM   #222 
   Sibel, if you happen to drop by ,,, I have a question ...  Gonnuts   Jan-10-08 05:18 PM   #224 
   Kick. (nt)  Kurovski   Jan-10-08 05:40 PM   #225 
   Thank you, Ms. Edmonds, for the courage and patriotism that you possess..  Ghost in the Machine   Jan-10-08 05:56 PM   #226 
 

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