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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 11:58 AM
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70. Most subjects were tested between 10pm and 3am....
... when do you think most spiking would take place?

They could have been claiming to have been spiked over breakfast, or several days ago - we don't really know.

We can all make our own assumptions though.
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  -Women drunk, not "spiked"? JoseNarof  Feb-21-07 10:43 AM   #0 
  - All it takes is one urination and those drugs are gone  Mandate My Ass   Feb-21-07 10:46 AM   #1 
  - Really?! That I didn't know.  JoseNarof   Feb-21-07 10:47 AM   #3 
  - Well, I don't think it's blame the victim unless you make the connection...  SteppingRazor   Feb-21-07 10:49 AM   # 
  - Yeah, I thought that too.  Bunny   Feb-21-07 10:50 AM   #7 
  - The EMJ is a reputable journal.  Lance_Boyle   Feb-21-07 10:47 AM   #2 
  - 1 study, 75 women  JoseNarof   Feb-21-07 10:49 AM   #5 
  - Actually, that's plenty for a scientific study. NT.  TheWraith   Feb-21-07 10:51 AM   #9 
  - You'd better write the journal  Lance_Boyle   Feb-21-07 10:52 AM   #10 
  - Do you see rape minimization a lot? Like in the study cited? Really?  GOTV   Feb-21-07 11:25 AM   #37 
     - I see too many women getting raped  JoseNarof   Feb-21-07 11:34 AM   #47 
        - That's a different issue and not what I asked. n/t  GOTV   Feb-21-07 11:37 AM   #50 
  - I work in a hospital and met an MD who wrote a chapter for a textbook  Mandate My Ass   Feb-21-07 10:50 AM   #8 
  - More of an expert than the study authors?  Lance_Boyle   Feb-21-07 10:57 AM   #15 
     - she works in the ER on a major university campus where date rape  Mandate My Ass   Feb-21-07 11:08 AM   #23 
  - Rape is rape  Warpy   Feb-21-07 11:03 AM   #21 
     - That's bollocks, in several ways  muriel_volestrangler   Feb-21-07 11:36 AM   #48 
     - Majority of subjects were tested between 10pm and 3am...  GOTV   Feb-21-07 11:40 AM   #53 
  - Why do you call bullshit?  asthmaticeog   Feb-21-07 10:49 AM   #4 
  - See post #5 n/t  JoseNarof   Feb-21-07 10:49 AM   #6 
  - So who's trying to minimize rape?  asthmaticeog   Feb-21-07 10:52 AM   #11 
     - The article can be used against rape victims  JoseNarof   Feb-21-07 10:59 AM   #17 
        - You'd suppress the results of a scientific study that competes with your politics, then?  asthmaticeog   Feb-21-07 11:01 AM   #19 
           - Balance, my friend, balance. n/t  JoseNarof   Feb-21-07 11:11 AM   #25 
              - One could say the same to you.  asthmaticeog   Feb-21-07 11:18 AM   #27 
              - Well, thanks, I think  JoseNarof   Feb-21-07 11:28 AM   #41 
              - I say no to balance. I want 100% truth no matter who it hurts...  GOTV   Feb-21-07 11:36 AM   #49 
                 - By not including other info  JoseNarof   Feb-21-07 11:46 AM   #61 
                    - What other info should have been included? n/t  GOTV   Feb-21-07 11:51 AM   #63 
                       - Well, geeeee  JoseNarof   Feb-21-07 11:55 AM   #67 
                          - Well, see, that would be irrelevant to the goal of the study....  GOTV   Feb-21-07 12:05 PM   #76 
  - Drink spiking is far from a "mythical" problem  mongo   Feb-21-07 11:19 AM   #29 
  - And as evidence you cite a friend-of-a-friend story.  asthmaticeog   Feb-21-07 11:34 AM   #46 
  - It's not entirely urban myth. My husband was dosed.  Dora   Feb-21-07 11:23 AM   #34 
     - And the moral?  Dora   Feb-21-07 11:28 AM   #40 
  - Drunk or Drugged someone is raping them while they sleep.  izzybeans   Feb-21-07 10:53 AM   #12 
  - Yes - the language I don't like in the article is  gollygee   Feb-21-07 10:55 AM   #13 
  - I need to read it again, but is that the summary quote or the study authors'?  izzybeans   Feb-21-07 10:56 AM   #14 
  - They are shifting the blame for feeling as though you've been drugged from the drugs to the alcohol  GOTV   Feb-21-07 12:09 PM   #77 
  - The article doesn't say they were victims of rape, though.  asthmaticeog   Feb-21-07 10:58 AM   #16 
  - If they went to the emergency room and said they thought their drinks  gollygee   Feb-21-07 11:15 AM   #26 
     - Thank you.  asthmaticeog   Feb-21-07 11:25 AM   #35 
  - Thank you! This is a progressive site  JoseNarof   Feb-21-07 11:00 AM   #18 
  - There is no mention of rape in the study.  jobycom   Feb-21-07 11:19 AM   #28 
  - Would you please see #26?  gollygee   Feb-21-07 11:22 AM   #32 
  - I saw 26. Would you please read the study? There is no mention of rape  jobycom   Feb-21-07 11:33 AM   #45 
     - How do you know the emergency room patients weren't reporting rape?  gollygee   Feb-21-07 11:40 AM   #52 
        - That has nothing to do with the survey or its conclusions.  jobycom   Feb-21-07 11:44 AM   #57 
        - Some of them were probably raped, some of them probably were not. What's the mix?  GOTV   Feb-21-07 11:50 AM   #62 
  - True, but they were interested in claims of being spiked with known date-rape drugs  izzybeans   Feb-21-07 11:27 AM   #38 
     - My point is that the study's purpose was not to investigate rape.  jobycom   Feb-21-07 11:41 AM   #54 
        - I think we agree.  izzybeans   Feb-21-07 12:02 PM   #73 
  - The article does not specify if any subject was actually raped...  GOTV   Feb-21-07 11:44 AM   #58 
  - 75 over a year, plus the article contradicts the study.  jobycom   Feb-21-07 11:02 AM   #20 
  - Here is the study itself  izzybeans   Feb-21-07 11:05 AM   #22 
     - Thanks. Little connection between the article and the study.  jobycom   Feb-21-07 11:21 AM   #31 
     - Yeah it leaves a lot to be desired IMO. I'm not sure how to justify any claim with  izzybeans   Feb-21-07 11:29 AM   #42 
     - The objective of the study was to examine a local problem...  GOTV   Feb-21-07 11:46 AM   #59 
     - Exactly, but even so, it's flawed.  jobycom   Feb-21-07 11:53 AM   #66 
        - Probably a consession to the difficulty of finding subjects...  GOTV   Feb-21-07 12:00 PM   #71 
           - True, the flaws were more in the limits of the survey, not the mistakes  jobycom   Feb-21-07 12:02 PM   #74 
     - Right. The study is not flawed. It's just not generalizable because of the limitations.  Gormy Cuss   Feb-21-07 11:53 AM   #65 
        - "grand conclusions on broader issues."  jobycom   Feb-21-07 11:56 AM   #68 
           - Watch it, buster. I have a pitchfork and I'm not afraid to use it.  Gormy Cuss   Feb-21-07 12:01 PM   #72 
     - Or, another explanation,  NCevilDUer   Feb-21-07 11:25 AM   #36 
        - Perhaps, but their really is nothing to say one way or the other, at least that  izzybeans   Feb-21-07 11:30 AM   #43 
  - Reading Comprehension 101  notmypresident   Feb-21-07 11:09 AM   #24 
  - Shut up and grab a pitchfork. There are witches about, ya know?  jobycom   Feb-21-07 11:22 AM   #33 
  - Word!  TahitiNut   Feb-21-07 11:41 AM   #55 
     - It is regarded as a sin, Check out my attempts to do that above.  jobycom   Feb-21-07 11:46 AM   #60 
  - THANK YOU.  asthmaticeog   Feb-21-07 11:28 AM   #39 
  - Good summary. n/t  Dora   Feb-21-07 11:40 AM   #51 
  - Am I correct that those kinds of drugs  Katherine Brengle   Feb-21-07 11:20 AM   #30 
  - Most subjects were tested between 10pm and 3am....  GOTV   Feb-21-07 11:58 AM   #70 
  - Nah, No Real Reason To Believe It's Bullshit. Seems Logical Actually.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Feb-21-07 11:33 AM   #44 
  - Makes sense.  Bornaginhooligan   Feb-21-07 11:41 AM   #56 
  - there are no potential dangers to drinking alcohol  Mandate My Ass   Feb-21-07 11:52 AM   #64 
     - I'm not seeing your point.  Bornaginhooligan   Feb-21-07 11:56 AM   #69 
     - Where did anyone claim otherwise?  jobycom   Feb-21-07 12:05 PM   #75 
     - That's just silly.  NCevilDUer   Feb-21-07 12:42 PM   #78 
  - It doesn't really matter. Alcohol is the original date rape drug and  hedgehog   Feb-21-07 12:46 PM   #79 
 

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