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Wed Feb-21-07 10:14 AM
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| 14. There are always training deaths in the military. |
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If you are going to count the training, accidental, and illness deaths under Clinton, you need to do the same for *.
Add the 3133 in Iraq to the 300+ in Afghanistan, and the ?? accidental, training and illness death to *'s column. They would probably far outstrip those under Clinton, because of intensifed training since the war started, suicides of returnees from combat, a higher likelihood of accidents as lower quality recruits are brought into the military to keep enlistments up...
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| -4,417 military deaths under Clinton? What are they talking about? |
Hamlette |
Feb-21-07 09:54 AM |
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Baseless moral relativism. Just pure rwingnut propaganda. |
Roland99 |
Feb-21-07 09:56 AM |
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that's 7,550 too many |
Bill McBlueState |
Feb-21-07 09:56 AM |
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but...I didn't think we lost any soldiers in a war under Clinton |
Hamlette |
Feb-21-07 10:02 AM |
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I think there were deaths in Somalia in 1993, iirc. n/t |
hughee99 |
Feb-21-07 10:13 AM |
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Complete right-wing nonsense and lies. The ACTUAL stats: |
WinkyDink |
Feb-21-07 01:57 PM |
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Were you intending to reply to me on this? |
hughee99 |
Feb-21-07 03:20 PM |
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I was in the Kosavo campagn |
dmost |
Feb-21-07 06:53 PM |
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WW2 vets dying of oLd age. |
sniffa |
Feb-21-07 10:01 AM |
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Well now count the deaths for other con presidents. |
Bitwit1234 |
Feb-21-07 10:01 AM |
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she says from the US military official report....? |
Hamlette |
Feb-21-07 10:05 AM |
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Hmmm, seems to me that regardless of her sources, the repukes still |
Javaman |
Feb-21-07 10:07 AM |
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Again, the military does not agree with these numbers, and note that |
sinkingfeeling |
Feb-21-07 10:48 AM |
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There weren't any military deaths in combat situations |
tetedur |
Feb-21-07 10:04 AM |
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military deaths from ALL |
montanto |
Feb-21-07 10:05 AM |
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but there are still twice as many non combat deaths under Clinton n/t |
Hamlette |
Feb-21-07 10:07 AM |
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Non-combat training deaths and car wrecks? |
Jacobin |
Feb-21-07 10:06 AM |
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These propagandists have no shame |
DefenseLawyer |
Feb-21-07 10:09 AM |
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This talking point raises it's ugly head again |
Mortos |
Feb-21-07 10:10 AM |
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There are always training deaths in the military. |
NCevilDUer |
Feb-21-07 10:14 AM |
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She's talking about total deaths occuring amongst all military personnel for any reason. |
sinkingfeeling |
Feb-21-07 10:14 AM |
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What an incredible example of lying with statistics. |
Jackpine Radical |
Feb-21-07 10:16 AM |
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She's comparing apples and oranges |
yardwork |
Feb-21-07 10:21 AM |
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And all the military retirees because technically we're inactive |
sarge43 |
Feb-21-07 01:30 PM |
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Well, according to the Department of Defense it was 4302 |
GirlinContempt |
Feb-21-07 10:23 AM |
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We didn't lose thousands in the Balkans. Do you SERIOUSLY believe that |
kestrel91316 |
Feb-21-07 10:28 AM |
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Did I say that? |
GirlinContempt |
Feb-21-07 10:32 AM |
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didn't Lose one soLdier in the baLkans |
sniffa |
Feb-21-07 10:31 AM |
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Oh |
GirlinContempt |
Feb-21-07 11:16 AM |
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Normal Active duty and reservist mortality rates? Throw in VA hospitals? |
haele |
Feb-21-07 10:24 AM |
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Probably deaths from all causes |
Thevenin |
Feb-21-07 10:30 AM |
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A chart on page 15 of this report details the death rates of the military from 1980-2002 |
izzybeans |
Feb-21-07 10:32 AM |
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Between 1992 - 2001, almost no battle deaths |
mainer |
Feb-21-07 10:37 AM |
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Yep. The Sun journalist is clearly a liar. |
izzybeans |
Feb-21-07 10:40 AM |
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dupe. |
izzybeans |
Feb-21-07 10:40 AM |
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Mysteriously enough |
Mortos |
Feb-21-07 10:37 AM |
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True. |
izzybeans |
Feb-21-07 10:39 AM |
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Kosovo US battle deaths: 0. Total US deaths: 2 |
mainer |
Feb-21-07 10:34 AM |
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As memory serves |
sarge43 |
Feb-21-07 10:51 AM |
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She's counting accidents, murders, suicides & natural causes |
wicket |
Feb-21-07 10:37 AM |
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thank you! |
Hamlette |
Feb-21-07 12:20 PM |
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Any time Hamlette!!!! |
wicket |
Feb-21-07 01:14 PM |
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Jesus H. Christ!!! |
maxrandb |
Feb-21-07 01:29 PM |
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Running the numbers |
BrooklyniteBlog |
Feb-21-07 01:53 PM |
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Re: Running the numbers |
BrooklyniteBlog |
Feb-21-07 01:54 PM |
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Whoa Brooklyn! What great posts.... |
Hamlette |
Feb-21-07 02:37 PM |
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Much appreciated. |
BrooklyniteBlog |
Feb-21-07 08:19 PM |
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I've made a spreadsheet for this if anyone wants it |
Bucky |
Feb-21-07 05:04 PM |
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