Hoof Hearted
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Sat Dec-29-07 11:12 PM
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| 13. Almost all surrogate parenting arrangements are made because of infertility |
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Edited on Sat Dec-29-07 11:12 PM by Hoof Hearted
as a last resort, not to "avoid the rigors of pregnancy". Sometimes a medical condition like severe type I diabetes might come into play but I don't think one could fairly dismiss that kind of circumstance as frivolous.
If the women in the story are being compensated on a comparable scale to those in the U.S., or better, do you object?
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| -Giving birth becomes the latest job outsourced to India as commercial surrogacy takes off |
OhioChick |
Dec-29-07 08:35 PM |
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I thought for sure that this would be from either The Onion or satiricalpolitical.com |
Fridays Child |
Dec-29-07 08:38 PM |
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Farmers have been doing this for decades.. |
SoCalDem |
Dec-29-07 08:52 PM |
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Those are all very good points. I don't frankly see much difference between |
Hoof Hearted |
Dec-29-07 10:17 PM |
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I see a difference |
theHandpuppet |
Dec-29-07 10:32 PM |
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How do you know they are not? You assume way too much. |
Hoof Hearted |
Dec-29-07 10:48 PM |
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A quote from becomeasurrogatemom.com: |
Hoof Hearted |
Dec-29-07 10:52 PM |
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Wowwww getting involved one time |
LiberalFighter |
Dec-30-07 10:19 AM |
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Gee -- most will visit ONCE during the pregnancy? |
theHandpuppet |
Dec-30-07 10:44 AM |
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I guess I wasn't making my point clear enough. My point is that surrogacy there is not |
Hoof Hearted |
Dec-30-07 11:52 AM |
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Geez, not the race card again! |
silverojo |
Dec-30-07 12:03 AM |
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Thank You. n/t |
OhioChick |
Dec-30-07 08:00 AM |
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Actually, I do see an element of racism at work here |
theHandpuppet |
Dec-30-07 10:49 AM |
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When the impoverishment of many is a 'convenience' to some ... |
TahitiNut |
Dec-30-07 09:06 AM |
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The same kind of arrangements are made here. Some women chose to fill a financial need by carrying |
Hoof Hearted |
Dec-30-07 02:48 PM |
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So... you think it's okay to treat human women the same way farmers treat animals? |
Katherine Brengle |
Jan-01-08 11:49 AM |
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I'm speechless ! |
Fed_Up_Grammy |
Dec-29-07 08:55 PM |
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Inevitable. If everyone's happy, I don't see anything wrong with it. |
truthisfreedom |
Dec-29-07 08:58 PM |
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Holy "Handmaid's Tale," Batman! |
BlueIris |
Dec-29-07 09:01 PM |
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Why? What exactly is wrong with it that isn't wrong with surrogacy here? |
Hoof Hearted |
Dec-29-07 10:22 PM |
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A poor woman don't have the resources to pursue legal cases long distance |
Lars39 |
Dec-30-07 03:05 PM |
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It's not her baby. Do you understand what surrogacy actually |
lizzy |
Dec-30-07 06:13 PM |
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It isn't *genetically* related, but pregnancy is biological |
gollygee |
Dec-30-07 06:35 PM |
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Exactly - this sense of entitlement to biological offspring in the wealthy is pretty |
Katherine Brengle |
Jan-01-08 11:51 AM |
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Usually they just come to California. |
LeftyMom |
Dec-29-07 09:57 PM |
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The Boys from Bangalore |
jpgray |
Dec-29-07 10:35 PM |
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Almost all surrogate parenting arrangements are made because of infertility |
Hoof Hearted |
Dec-29-07 11:12 PM |
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Yes. The economic disparity makes it exploitative, and adoption is a far more friendly alternative |
jpgray |
Dec-30-07 09:27 AM |
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Excellent post, jpgray |
theHandpuppet |
Dec-30-07 10:51 AM |
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Adoption is so difficult that almost nobody can actually do it. I've seen that up close. |
Hoof Hearted |
Dec-30-07 03:30 PM |
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for white infants this is true.... not so much for older, darker babies. |
bettyellen |
Dec-31-07 08:10 PM |
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My friend has been trying to adopt any child under 3 |
gollygee |
Dec-31-07 09:23 PM |
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That's the myth. Doesn't hold up though. Why do you think there are so many foreign adoptions? |
Hoof Hearted |
Dec-31-07 09:27 PM |
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maybe it's easier in NY where we don;t discriminate based on religion or sexual orientation |
bettyellen |
Dec-31-07 10:06 PM |
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Good post except for 1 point. Question about the "potentially dangerous" bit |
uppityperson |
Jan-01-08 12:07 PM |
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the point being, you are paying someone to do something dangerous, incredibly physically |
bettyellen |
Jan-01-08 02:23 PM |
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Not just the 2 choices and of course. |
uppityperson |
Jan-01-08 02:57 PM |
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i dont; see why that distinction is important... |
bettyellen |
Jan-01-08 03:20 PM |
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But increasingly it's only "infertility" because the couple is too old to concieve. |
LeftyMom |
Dec-30-07 11:13 AM |
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That's not really fair |
gollygee |
Dec-30-07 02:59 PM |
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If it's important to somebody, they work around those things. |
LeftyMom |
Dec-30-07 04:31 PM |
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funny people think poor women should suffer because they themselves want to struggle less when |
bettyellen |
Dec-31-07 06:44 PM |
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It IS ethically complex |
kgfnally |
Jan-01-08 03:30 PM |
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I find this sickening |
SillyFlower |
Dec-30-07 12:13 AM |
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You're Right... |
OhioChick |
Dec-30-07 08:02 AM |
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It also hurts the environment |
Xenotime |
Dec-30-07 08:39 AM |
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Adoption isn't easy |
gollygee |
Dec-30-07 03:02 PM |
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While we here in the states can be above it all |
zalinda |
Dec-30-07 08:59 AM |
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Yes! Let's use our economic might to compel poor folk to take on dangerous work we won't do! |
jpgray |
Dec-30-07 09:42 AM |
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exactly. it amazes me that some here project that these women find it "fulfilling" to spend 9 mos |
bettyellen |
Dec-30-07 11:53 AM |
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Not one person has said that these women find |
zalinda |
Dec-30-07 02:51 PM |
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"valuable and worthwhile" would have whizzed over your head, huh? that means fulfilling |
bettyellen |
Dec-31-07 06:14 PM |
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So, your suggestion is to let them |
zalinda |
Dec-30-07 12:02 PM |
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taken? it's a new form of trade- so we wonder why haven't more progressive opportunities opened up |
bettyellen |
Dec-30-07 01:10 PM |
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So they should be grateful for exploitation, -because- they are desperate? |
jpgray |
Dec-30-07 06:09 PM |
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Want it or not, if those adult women, they can do whatever it |
lizzy |
Dec-30-07 06:16 PM |
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Yet there are some things that should not be up for sale. And I'll wager I can prove it to you |
jpgray |
Dec-30-07 06:34 PM |
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Being pregnant is legal anywhere in the world, I presume. |
lizzy |
Dec-30-07 06:57 PM |
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As that has nothing to do with your earlier argument, is it safe to say you've abandoned it? |
jpgray |
Dec-30-07 07:02 PM |
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Oh please. |
lizzy |
Dec-30-07 07:09 PM |
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Are all equally free to decide? Are there no limits to what they can choose to sell? |
jpgray |
Dec-30-07 07:10 PM |
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John Sayles made a movie sort of about this subject |
Annces |
Dec-30-07 10:00 AM |
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Or... |
Book Lover |
Dec-30-07 01:05 PM |
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Believe it or not, for some people that is not possible |
zalinda |
Dec-30-07 02:39 PM |
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I am sorry |
Book Lover |
Dec-30-07 02:51 PM |
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Adoption isn't easy either |
gollygee |
Dec-30-07 02:52 PM |
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Adoption is so difficult that almost nobody can actually do it. n/t |
Hoof Hearted |
Dec-30-07 02:57 PM |
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wow, i can count four in my office. two are gay, another is single.... |
bettyellen |
Dec-31-07 06:41 PM |
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Indeed. A lot of the reason adoption is "difficult" is because |
Katherine Brengle |
Jan-01-08 11:53 AM |
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see post #37 |
Book Lover |
Jan-01-08 12:28 PM |
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The movie "Coma" is looking more and more plausible each day |
Canuckistanian |
Dec-30-07 06:15 PM |
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Brave New World..... |
Elspeth |
Dec-30-07 06:31 PM |
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Whoa, 15 pregnant women in the same room. Reminded me of Battlestar Galactica |
DS1 |
Dec-30-07 07:11 PM |
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Funny how wealth, vacations, health care, yachts, etc. are never "out-sourced". |
WinkyDink |
Dec-31-07 06:25 PM |
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This reminds me of a Twilight Zone episode. |
Swamp Rat |
Dec-31-07 07:34 PM |
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UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE!!! Now we're outsourcing our babies! |
Kip Humphrey |
Dec-31-07 07:37 PM |
#62 |
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