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  -Straight Story's rant is exactly why this election may be my last tango with the Democratic party. Skidmore  Dec-28-07 02:32 PM   #0 
  - Changes start at the grassroots and getting rid of ALL incumbents. All of them. No exceptions.  Buzz Clik   Dec-28-07 02:35 PM   #1 
  - All I see is astroturf.  TahitiNut   Dec-28-07 02:41 PM   #2 
  - A particularly apt analysis.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Dec-28-07 03:08 PM   #7 
  - Well, my dear friend, we need to find some real grass roots.  Buzz Clik   Dec-28-07 06:55 PM   #31 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-28-07 02:45 PM   #4 
  - Cool site.  Le Taz Hot   Dec-29-07 05:46 AM   #49 
     - I also thought it was an interesting site. Why was it deleted?? nm  rhett o rick   Dec-29-07 11:41 AM   #72 
  - How? The Democratic Party will fight you every step of the way.  rhett o rick   Dec-28-07 04:46 PM   #15 
     - When you say "best answer", I assume you're being sarcastic  brentspeak   Dec-28-07 05:16 PM   #20 
     - I wish as you that I was, but no. I have yet to get anyone to advise how to  rhett o rick   Dec-28-07 05:31 PM   #24 
     - vote them out? It worked against Lieberman  harmonicon   Dec-28-07 05:35 PM   #27 
     - You consider what happened with Lieberman as a success?  rhett o rick   Dec-28-07 05:52 PM   #30 
     - a mixed success  harmonicon   Dec-28-07 06:56 PM   #32 
        - It sounds so democratic to say that we will run candidate against those that supported  rhett o rick   Dec-28-07 11:08 PM   #41 
           - but we can, and they did!!  harmonicon   Dec-29-07 06:01 AM   #54 
              - Lieberman in the Senate is terrible every way you look at it. For some reason that still  rhett o rick   Dec-29-07 10:42 AM   #63 
                 - but Lieberman ISN'T a Democrat anymore - that's a victory for the party  harmonicon   Dec-29-07 11:17 AM   #69 
                    - So you don't think there is a Clinton/Lieberman ticket in the making?  rhett o rick   Dec-29-07 06:13 PM   #81 
                       - God I hope not - you know, I hadn't even considered that.... beyond my worst nightmares  harmonicon   Dec-29-07 06:22 PM   #83 
                          - Sorry to give you nightmares. I hope it never comes to that but I believe  rhett o rick   Dec-29-07 06:54 PM   #87 
                             - it's not my cat pic (got it from here), but it looks like my old cat (best friend) too n/t  harmonicon   Dec-30-07 10:58 AM   #88 
     - Lieberman got the message loud and clear.  Buzz Clik   Dec-28-07 07:00 PM   #34 
        - Are you kidding. Lieberman is in the driver's seat. Both parties are kissing his ass  rhett o rick   Dec-28-07 11:11 PM   #42 
        - Not for long  MsMagnificent   Dec-29-07 12:13 PM   #74 
           - Plez don't leave me in suspenders. What are you predicting magnificent ms?? nm  rhett o rick   Dec-29-07 06:14 PM   #82 
              - What I think will happen  MsMagnificent   Dec-30-07 03:44 PM   #89 
        - Yup, yup,and yup again.  Skidmore   Dec-29-07 11:01 AM   #66 
     - Voting Republican is not the answer. Third party is not the deal either unless...  Buzz Clik   Dec-28-07 06:58 PM   #33 
     - I know everyone is tired of me saying this but tell me how do we dump  rhett o rick   Dec-28-07 11:13 PM   #43 
        - They did it in Virginia  Le Taz Hot   Dec-29-07 05:48 AM   #50 
           - My fault. I meant in the primaries. It is easy to dump a republican, we proved that in 06  rhett o rick   Dec-29-07 10:34 AM   #62 
              - I'm going to PM you  Le Taz Hot   Dec-29-07 10:50 AM   #65 
                 - Please be gentle. nm  rhett o rick   Dec-29-07 11:13 AM   #68 
     - Put in a REAL Democrat against the incumbent  MsMagnificent   Dec-29-07 12:31 PM   #75 
        - Thank you. I agree with you wholeheartedly.  Skidmore   Dec-29-07 12:53 PM   #76 
        - I absolutely agree with what you said but ..............  rhett o rick   Dec-29-07 06:34 PM   #86 
           - Sounds easier than it is?  MsMagnificent   Dec-30-07 04:10 PM   #90 
  - How is what he wrote the fault of the Democratic party?  EstimatedProphet   Dec-28-07 02:44 PM   #3 
  - rants are overrated  Enrique   Dec-28-07 02:57 PM   #5 
  - Mealy-mouthed rationalizations are parsed excuses for why someone  Skidmore   Dec-28-07 03:09 PM   #8 
  - yes, they are often explanations of something controversial  Enrique   Dec-28-07 03:46 PM   #10 
     - And many rants are the product of many years of hard work going  Joe Fields   Dec-28-07 04:35 PM   #14 
     - yep  Swamp Rat   Dec-28-07 04:59 PM   #16 
     - Double Yep !!!  WillyT   Dec-28-07 08:57 PM   #39 
     - "a groundswell of disappointment and frustration here and it is wholly justified"  The Straight Story   Dec-28-07 08:43 PM   #37 
     - And that fits what I said How?  The Straight Story   Dec-28-07 09:03 PM   #40 
        - it fits the OP more than it does your own post  Enrique   Dec-29-07 05:49 AM   #51 
  - Some times rationalizations are just rationalizations. n/t  sfexpat2000   Dec-28-07 04:06 PM   #12 
  - that's true  Enrique   Dec-28-07 04:16 PM   #13 
  - Remember, rationalization is the key to happyness. nm  rhett o rick   Dec-28-07 05:33 PM   #25 
     - Curious,  quantessd   Dec-29-07 03:43 AM   #47 
        - I'd like to know that myself. I got it from my friend. Maybe I should look it up. nm  rhett o rick   Dec-29-07 10:44 AM   #64 
        - Per the Internets, I am given credit for the quote, but only because of my unique  rhett o rick   Dec-29-07 11:11 AM   #67 
  - Rants are NOT leading this country right off the cliff.  bobbolink   Dec-28-07 05:03 PM   #17 
  - Your doctor disagrees  OzarkDem   Dec-28-07 08:55 PM   #38 
  - Vent from AJC  elifino   Dec-28-07 03:04 PM   #6 
  - that was a damned good rant by straight story nt  shireen   Dec-28-07 03:26 PM   #9 
  - I am with you.  lateo   Dec-28-07 04:01 PM   #11 
  - All those people panting for Al Gore would be really ticked with you...  bobbolink   Dec-28-07 05:20 PM   #21 
  - Right after the elections of '04, there was a very thoughtful DUer who  bobbolink   Dec-28-07 05:04 PM   #18 
  - Hold on. Where did you get the idea that Straight Story's was an anti-DEMOCRATIC PARTY rant?  brentspeak   Dec-28-07 05:15 PM   #19 
  - Correct. Anger is the Democratic Party's greatest weapon. It mobilizes our voters the way that fear  McCamy Taylor   Dec-28-07 05:44 PM   #29 
  - K&R nt  Yuugal   Dec-28-07 05:22 PM   #22 
  - In my view, there is a GREAT war in the making, something akin to the forefathers' war against,...  sicksicksick_N_tired   Dec-28-07 05:31 PM   #23 
  - I fear you are correct And damn those who sold us into  Skidmore   Dec-28-07 05:34 PM   #26 
  - I fear that full revolution will be necessary to correct if even possible.  rhett o rick   Dec-28-07 05:38 PM   #28 
  - That was Ralph Nader's reasoning for not dropping out of the race in 2000,  MilesColtrane   Dec-29-07 11:18 AM   #70 
     - I so totally agree. But I am in a quandary, not yet ready to totally give up.  rhett o rick   Dec-29-07 06:10 PM   #80 
  - When the economy tanks--and it will--there will be anarchy in this country.  mnhtnbb   Dec-29-07 11:21 AM   #71 
  - loyalty has kelp a republican in office for 8 years  surfermaw   Dec-28-07 07:16 PM   #35 
  - The SCOTUS keeps me on board  RiverStone   Dec-28-07 07:28 PM   #36 
  - Ah yes the SCOTUS  Lydia Leftcoast   Dec-28-07 11:20 PM   #44 
     - Excellent example! Yes, at a time when something could have been  Skidmore   Dec-29-07 03:19 AM   #46 
  - I'm with you.  bbgrunt   Dec-29-07 01:07 AM   #45 
  - I'm on the same outbound train and I have voted Dem since JFK, no to corp control, no to Hillary  FreeStateDemocrat   Dec-29-07 05:34 AM   #48 
  - Ugly truths vs. simple answers  PATRICK   Dec-29-07 05:50 AM   #52 
  - Thank you for your post.  Skidmore   Dec-29-07 06:05 AM   #55 
     - Search among past Dems  PATRICK   Dec-29-07 06:24 AM   #56 
  - 2004 was my last tango.  Le Taz Hot   Dec-29-07 06:01 AM   #53 
  - "Kerry being chosen for us...." Thanks Le Tax Hot. Many seem to have forgotten.  loudsue   Dec-29-07 11:51 AM   #73 
  - Another victim of the corporate media. They exist to weaken and demoralize the left.  Perry Logan   Dec-29-07 07:00 AM   #57 
  - Hi, Perry. That statement doesn't even make sense. It contradicts itself.  Skidmore   Dec-29-07 07:04 AM   #58 
     - It's a zen thing.  Perry Logan   Dec-29-07 08:02 AM   #59 
  - The Democratic Party is Going Through a Schism Right Now  fascisthunter   Dec-29-07 08:09 AM   #60 
  - Its who counts the votes. Not who casts them.  Twist_U_Up   Dec-29-07 08:35 AM   #61 
  - Don't leave with the feeling  sallyseven   Dec-29-07 01:37 PM   #77 
  - When enough people get fed up and quit supporting the DLC candidates  Skidmore   Dec-29-07 03:23 PM   #79 
  - You are NOT ALONE, by any means! And the predictable flaming response is why  bobbolink   Dec-29-07 02:00 PM   #78 
  - So this is your "last tango" with the Dems, unless Hillary takes the nom, in which case  smalll   Dec-29-07 06:24 PM   #84 
     - What the heck did you write? Either you did not read what I said closely  Skidmore   Dec-29-07 06:30 PM   #85 

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