LeftyMom
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Wed Dec-26-07 10:34 PM
Response to Reply #108 |
| 112. Oh, I thought this was about writing checks to (domesticated) animal welfare groups. |
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Not only has he likely got you beat on that one (hell, he's got the heads of half of 'em in his cell phone) he's doing the same sort of work on his own dime. So now you're bitching that he's unqualified to tell you that hitting a tiger with a 2x4 is abusive because he's got dogs and cats and rabbits, and not fucking ocelots or something? (Jesus Christ, I think he strains the kindness of the local zoning authorities quite enough as is.)
Hitting a tiger with a 2x4 is a violation of any local or state anti-cruelty statute I've ever seen, it's against federal regulations governing captive exotics, and it's probably a violation of a couple of different international treaties governing the trade in exotic and threatened animals.
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| -I used to work with large cats (Lions) and I really have to wonder |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 04:26 PM |
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A sad affair all around. An innocent guest at the zoo cafe gets mauled to death |
truedelphi |
Dec-26-07 04:27 PM |
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It is a tragic affair and it's one that didn't need to happen. |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 04:29 PM |
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very sad |
judaspriestess |
Dec-26-07 04:29 PM |
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I don't know a thing about big cats |
goodgd_yall |
Dec-26-07 04:30 PM |
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I was lucky, I only once had a cat "go wild" on me and that was entirely my fault. |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 04:38 PM |
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this is now being investigated as a crime scene |
pitohui |
Dec-26-07 04:31 PM |
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Well, it for sure is a homicide-by a tiger. |
lizzy |
Dec-26-07 04:36 PM |
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Homicide by...tiger? |
iconoclastic cat |
Dec-26-07 04:40 PM |
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I just meant, the tiger killed the guy. That much is known. |
lizzy |
Dec-26-07 04:42 PM |
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Well, downthread the word is that a human set the tiger loose |
iconoclastic cat |
Dec-26-07 04:54 PM |
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i found the link |
pitohui |
Dec-26-07 04:45 PM |
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Latest reports |
MonkeyFunk |
Dec-26-07 04:55 PM |
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the tiger would have had to leap higher than any tiger has been to known to be able to do |
pitohui |
Dec-26-07 04:41 PM |
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I don't know. Some of these tiger experts were on tv saying |
lizzy |
Dec-26-07 04:45 PM |
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our wall in nola is about that high and none of the tigers have ever leapt out |
pitohui |
Dec-26-07 04:47 PM |
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Hah? They already ID the guy. He was 17 years old. |
lizzy |
Dec-26-07 05:06 PM |
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um i just believed what the coroner said in the above news reports |
pitohui |
Dec-26-07 05:44 PM |
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Oh he's got family. |
lizzy |
Dec-26-07 10:14 PM |
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That would be my guess. I don't know how many times in CA |
truedelphi |
Dec-26-07 04:52 PM |
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I'm hoping it wasn't a deliberate action in that someone opened access |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 04:49 PM |
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I Get The Feeling |
Crisco |
Dec-26-07 04:50 PM |
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I have an active imagination |
MS Liberal |
Dec-26-07 04:46 PM |
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They were saying on MSNBC that all the guys knew each other |
malaise |
Dec-26-07 04:49 PM |
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Murder? |
snailly |
Dec-26-07 09:03 PM |
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I imagine whoever opened the door would have been most |
lizzy |
Dec-26-07 05:12 PM |
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This is such a tragic story. |
cat_girl25 |
Dec-26-07 04:46 PM |
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If you ever do, find the biggest 2x4 you can and knock the shit out of it. |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 04:54 PM |
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Thanks for advocating animal abuse. |
flvegan |
Dec-26-07 07:51 PM |
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Pray tell, is this practice why you're no longer caring for big cats? |
LeftyMom |
Dec-26-07 08:28 PM |
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Check downthread. |
flvegan |
Dec-26-07 08:35 PM |
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Good god, I wish I were. |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 08:40 PM |
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Good god, I'm glad you're not. |
flvegan |
Dec-26-07 08:45 PM |
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Which is why captivity is a bad idea. |
LeftyMom |
Dec-26-07 08:45 PM |
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Lol! You've never worked with big cats. If you had, you'd already have |
Lorien |
Dec-29-07 09:18 AM |
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Is anyone on this thread from SF area? |
PeaceNikki |
Dec-26-07 04:47 PM |
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BEST local TV in the Bay Area is KTVU dot com nt |
fed-up |
Dec-26-07 08:54 PM |
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my nephew had zoo volunteer training.... |
grasswire |
Dec-26-07 05:06 PM |
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That sure doesn't sound very safe or smart. |
lizzy |
Dec-26-07 05:09 PM |
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Here's some interesting information of recommended Tiger enclosures |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 05:12 PM |
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Boys were taunting tiger |
Uben |
Dec-26-07 05:09 PM |
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Because if they taunted the tiger |
sleebarker |
Dec-26-07 05:22 PM |
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When I go to the zoo, I expect the tigers and lions to stay in their |
lizzy |
Dec-26-07 05:43 PM |
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When we go to the zoo, |
MrsMatt |
Dec-26-07 06:42 PM |
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Well don't act like an ass and taunt them |
classicfilmfan |
Dec-26-07 09:29 PM |
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Doesn't this kind of thing happen at least once a year? |
classicfilmfan |
Dec-26-07 06:01 PM |
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I hope you realize that it's a complete speculation that |
lizzy |
Dec-26-07 07:37 PM |
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Read post 26 |
classicfilmfan |
Dec-26-07 09:28 PM |
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It's relevant |
LWolf |
Dec-26-07 05:40 PM |
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They weren't "boys"--the news report says "men" since they were 19 and 23 years old. |
paxmusa |
Dec-26-07 05:50 PM |
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silly! Don't you know the rules? If they shot someone, they'd be men. |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 05:56 PM |
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The one that was killed was 17. |
lizzy |
Dec-26-07 07:49 PM |
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When I heard the story, my first assumption was that some idiot |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Dec-26-07 06:44 PM |
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know what's so sad? |
CatWoman |
Dec-26-07 05:14 PM |
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The tiger has been killed yesterday. |
lizzy |
Dec-26-07 05:16 PM |
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Sadly, it has been destroyed already. |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 05:16 PM |
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Of course police should have just given it some milk and cookies, |
lizzy |
Dec-26-07 05:19 PM |
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It's hard to say, not knowing the keeper, but the only folks I have ever |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 05:27 PM |
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Jesus Christ- the tiger was doing what tigers do for fuck's sake |
Beaverhausen |
Dec-26-07 05:52 PM |
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I agree, tigers are not good zoo/show animals. |
uppityperson |
Dec-26-07 06:50 PM |
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Killing something that is |
Raine |
Dec-26-07 08:07 PM |
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This thread has brought back some of my best memories. |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 05:38 PM |
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A Georgia politician has a lion refuge? |
OzarkDem |
Dec-26-07 06:10 PM |
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Might have been Max Cleland -- I can see him running an actual refuge. |
seawolf |
Dec-26-07 06:32 PM |
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This was back in the seventies... |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 08:07 PM |
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dawggie, i'm getting really jealous of your experiences! |
maxsolomon |
Dec-26-07 06:21 PM |
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I'd give my left nut just to wrestle with Hutch one more time. |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 08:09 PM |
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Why wrestle when a 2x4 is so convenient. |
flvegan |
Dec-26-07 08:22 PM |
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Ummmm... if you have a cat attacking you? |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 08:24 PM |
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"when a lion misbehaves" |
flvegan |
Dec-26-07 08:25 PM |
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And I'll stand by that. |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 08:31 PM |
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So then smashing an animal with a 2x4 is cool with you? |
flvegan |
Dec-26-07 08:33 PM |
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Personally, I never have (hit an animal with a 2x4). |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 08:43 PM |
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When are you going to define "misbehaving" Dawggie? |
flvegan |
Dec-26-07 08:47 PM |
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Biting. |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 09:01 PM |
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A lion biting? |
flvegan |
Dec-26-07 09:04 PM |
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WTF's you problem? |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 09:07 PM |
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Stop advocating animal abuse, and I'm gone. |
flvegan |
Dec-26-07 09:09 PM |
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Okay, you have a 300 pound cat charging you with hunger in its eyes... Whatya gonna do? |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 09:20 PM |
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Why is that cat charging me? |
flvegan |
Dec-26-07 09:22 PM |
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You smell like food? |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 09:30 PM |
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But it's an acceptable training method, yes, at least in your circle? |
flvegan |
Dec-26-07 09:33 PM |
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No, you idgit! It's a method of defense! |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 09:35 PM |
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Oh, do go on. |
LeftyMom |
Dec-26-07 09:41 PM |
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Sorry, what would you suggest against an attacking lion? |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 10:12 PM |
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Defense? |
flvegan |
Dec-26-07 09:42 PM |
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this was stated i dunno how many times upthread? |
CreekDog |
Dec-29-07 11:19 AM |
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he didn't say it was a training method |
CreekDog |
Dec-29-07 11:18 AM |
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he explained "misbehaving" and it wasn't for simply breaking a rule you have for your kitty |
CreekDog |
Dec-29-07 11:14 AM |
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I think he's saying if you are about to get killed or seriously injured |
CreekDog |
Dec-29-07 11:05 AM |
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I'm not bullshitting man. |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 08:27 PM |
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You advocated smashing an animal with a 2x4 for "misbehaving" |
flvegan |
Dec-26-07 08:31 PM |
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Look, I've let Macaws gnaw on my arm to show them I'm their equal. |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 08:52 PM |
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You have yet to define "misbehaving" which begets a slam with a 2x4. |
flvegan |
Dec-26-07 08:59 PM |
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Actually, I have. Biting. |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 09:05 PM |
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How does APHIS feel about the 2x4 training method, eh? |
flvegan |
Dec-26-07 09:07 PM |
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Dear Moronica... |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 09:17 PM |
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Post #22, your words |
flvegan |
Dec-26-07 09:19 PM |
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"Misbehaving" Essentially refers to ATTACKING or chowing down |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 09:28 PM |
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Seems that mortally wounding someone is more than "misbehaving" |
flvegan |
Dec-26-07 09:40 PM |
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Okay, you want a pissing contest? Post your receipt from your most recent ASPCA donation |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 09:46 PM |
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Oh. My. Gawd. |
LeftyMom |
Dec-26-07 09:47 PM |
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LOL! Really! |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 09:48 PM |
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You have no, idea. |
LeftyMom |
Dec-26-07 09:49 PM |
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I don't think so.... |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 09:51 PM |
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You're right, I don't. But I know flvegan pretty well, and you just busted out the "I care more |
LeftyMom |
Dec-26-07 10:14 PM |
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Now tell me what kind of experience you have with non-indigenous animals |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 10:23 PM |
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*spoken to a vegan* |
flvegan |
Dec-26-07 10:25 PM |
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Oh, I thought this was about writing checks to (domesticated) animal welfare groups. |
LeftyMom |
Dec-26-07 10:34 PM |
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I promise, if htere is a hungry bear or large cat coming after you with food in mind... |
Dawggie |
Dec-27-07 12:04 AM |
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I have the good sense not to imprison or otherwise fuck with one. |
LeftyMom |
Dec-27-07 12:39 AM |
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it's not illegal if you are defending yourself from an attack |
CreekDog |
Dec-29-07 01:15 PM |
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How cute. |
Dawggie |
Dec-27-07 12:23 AM |
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i need a refill, with extra butter this time |
CreekDog |
Dec-29-07 11:24 AM |
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Are you serious? |
flvegan |
Dec-26-07 09:50 PM |
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You betcha. this is something that's important to me. |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 09:52 PM |
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So, in addition to a pissing contest, you really don't know what APHIS is? |
flvegan |
Dec-26-07 09:53 PM |
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National Animal Health Monitoring System? |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 09:57 PM |
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So then your answer is "no" you have no clue as to what APHIS is |
flvegan |
Dec-26-07 09:59 PM |
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OTOH, it's my bedtime at the moment and I've been down with pneumonia |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 10:02 PM |
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I'm sorry for your illness. |
flvegan |
Dec-26-07 10:17 PM |
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Hey, search my posts and you wil find that I'm not calling `the pneumonia |
Dawggie |
Dec-26-07 10:26 PM |
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And? |
flvegan |
Dec-26-07 10:31 PM |
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it bothered me so much I came back. |
Dawggie |
Dec-27-07 12:11 AM |
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Surveillance camera still released. |
rug |
Dec-29-07 11:53 AM |
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