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195. I've never checked anybody's papers, so I don't know.
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  -Illegal Immigration ThomWV  Dec-19-07 08:39 AM   #0 
  - WV, a few  ThomWV   Dec-19-07 08:40 AM   #1 
  - Illegals are overrunning my community. I live in a state of irrational fear.  Buzz Clik   Dec-19-07 08:42 AM   #2 
  - So much so that I hand the RW a victory by referring to fellow humans as "illegals"  bunkerbuster1   Dec-19-07 09:53 AM   #21 
  - Hypperbole and sarcasm, I hope.  pampango   Dec-19-07 10:13 AM   #34 
  - Gee, thanks for that.  Buzz Clik   Dec-19-07 10:23 AM   #35 
  - lol. brown people are gonna get ya!  lionesspriyanka   Dec-19-07 10:28 AM   #37 
  - Terra terra terra!  yardwork   Dec-19-07 01:52 PM   #152 
  - WY, a few  TransitJohn   Dec-19-07 08:42 AM   #3 
  - MA- I have no idea  Marrah_G   Dec-19-07 08:46 AM   #4 
  - NYC...this city would be in a world of hurt without them.  MNDemNY   Dec-19-07 08:47 AM   #5 
  - yup.  lionesspriyanka   Dec-19-07 10:28 AM   #38 
  - So would we up in the northwest  ismnotwasm   Dec-19-07 01:07 PM   #140 
  - NC  citizen_jane   Dec-19-07 08:50 AM   #6 
  - New to WNY so guessing, but averaging with NE = "few" NT  dmallind   Dec-19-07 08:54 AM   #7 
  - TX. Many of the manual laborers here do not speak English  brazos121200   Dec-19-07 08:54 AM   #8 
  - Of course nothing is done. The contractors report that they pay minimum wage,  redqueen   Dec-19-07 09:56 AM   #25 
  - TX  dkofos   Dec-19-07 08:57 AM   #9 
  - What part?  ThomWV   Dec-19-07 08:58 AM   #11 
  - TX n/t  texanshatingbush   Dec-19-07 08:58 AM   #10 
  - Do you assume they're all here illegally?  redqueen   Dec-19-07 09:47 AM   #17 
     - I assume.....  texanshatingbush   Dec-20-07 09:56 AM   #196 
  - Someone better DU this poll.  Zywiec   Dec-19-07 09:03 AM   #12 
  - Yip. "Irrational fear" says it all. Who would think that FDR's party (All we have to fear...) would  UTUSN   Dec-19-07 09:11 AM   #13 
  - Because the racist trolls/disrupters here make sure to weigh in when "illegals" are discussed.  bunkerbuster1   Dec-19-07 10:03 AM   #29 
     - I agree; this is a sick poll  proud2Blib   Dec-19-07 12:03 PM   #53 
  - Immigrants are NOT illegal  Brother_1969   Dec-19-07 09:35 AM   #14 
  - Some are, some aren't.  ThomWV   Dec-19-07 09:36 AM   #15 
  - Undocumented immigrants would be the correct term  Hippo_Tron   Dec-19-07 09:50 AM   #19 
     - Yes. Not only is the term "Illegal" as a noun flat-out racist,  bunkerbuster1   Dec-19-07 09:54 AM   #24 
     - It's akin to Death Tax, Abortion on Demand, and Democrat Party  Hippo_Tron   Dec-19-07 09:56 AM   #26 
     - Complete nonsense.  TahitiNut   Dec-19-07 02:23 PM   #164 
     - Bull... oni  Juniperx   Dec-19-07 02:43 PM   #171 
        - deleted  redqueen   Dec-19-07 02:54 PM   #178 
  - Visa status. Everyone gets one if not a citizen.  YOY   Dec-19-07 10:04 AM   #30 
  - Sometimes a bleeding heart deprives the brain of oxygen.  TahitiNut   Dec-19-07 10:07 AM   #31 
  - Immoral? No. Illegal? Yes.  Occam Bandage   Dec-19-07 11:31 AM   #41 
  - AR - We have a rising number of workers here and I welcome them all.  sinkingfeeling   Dec-19-07 09:45 AM   #16 
  - It depends on where you are in Florida.  porphyrian   Dec-19-07 09:50 AM   #18 
  - How are we supposed to know they're illegal?  superduperfarleft   Dec-19-07 09:51 AM   #20 
  - exactly what i was thinking  iamthebandfanman   Dec-19-07 09:53 AM   #23 
  - If they speak spanish, they're illegal - that seems to be the only criterion. (nt)  redqueen   Dec-19-07 09:57 AM   #27 
  - I have done retirement plan enrollment meetings all over the  Common Sense Party   Dec-19-07 12:00 PM   #47 
     - And this proves what?  redqueen   Dec-19-07 12:14 PM   #64 
        - Who the hell said it proves anything? nt  Common Sense Party   Dec-19-07 12:26 PM   #69 
           - What's it supposed to mean, then?  redqueen   Dec-19-07 12:27 PM   #71 
              - It means what I wrote. In my experience, most Spanish speaking  Common Sense Party   Dec-19-07 12:29 PM   #72 
                 - So if they speak Spanish, they're illegal. Gotcha.  redqueen   Dec-19-07 12:34 PM   #80 
                 - Good grief, did you even read what I wrote? They TELL me they are  Common Sense Party   Dec-19-07 12:38 PM   #89 
                    - *sigh* You said:  redqueen   Dec-19-07 12:43 PM   #99 
                    - nothing lost in the translation, intent or context...  LanternWaste   Dec-19-07 02:40 PM   #169 
                       - Bullpucky. She (and you) intentionally misunderstand. nt  Common Sense Party   Dec-19-07 04:52 PM   #190 
                          - Nonsense. (nt)  redqueen   Dec-19-07 05:58 PM   #192 
                 - yeah, and?  RedCappedBandit   Dec-19-07 12:36 PM   #85 
                    - I never mentioned other "undocumented" groups, because I don't  Common Sense Party   Dec-19-07 12:41 PM   #96 
                       - The latter part of my post..  RedCappedBandit   Dec-19-07 12:44 PM   #100 
  - Exactly! What a joke.  Beausoir   Dec-19-07 10:08 AM   #32 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-19-07 10:26 AM   #36 
  - I'd start by looking here:  Occam Bandage   Dec-19-07 11:30 AM   #40 
  - Someone had to say it...  SemiCharmedQuark   Dec-19-07 11:39 AM   #43 
  - When you are talking with people they often will tell you. Also if the person still has Mexican tag  RGBolen   Dec-19-07 12:02 PM   #50 
  - That's my point.  superduperfarleft   Dec-19-07 12:07 PM   #56 
  - "the nonchalant way people responded to it"  redqueen   Dec-19-07 12:13 PM   #62 
     - It's easy to be nonchalant for some of us...  Juniperx   Dec-19-07 02:07 PM   #160 
        - The OP is disgusting.  redqueen   Dec-19-07 02:22 PM   #163 
           - Perspective is everything...  Juniperx   Dec-19-07 02:40 PM   #168 
              - I'm poor and live in TX... what do you think?  redqueen   Dec-19-07 02:49 PM   #175 
                 - I honestly didn't see anything racist in the OP...  Juniperx   Dec-19-07 03:08 PM   #181 
                    - "Overrunning" = fearmongering.  redqueen   Dec-19-07 03:09 PM   #182 
                       - I understand that, and I agree..  Juniperx   Dec-19-07 04:23 PM   #184 
                          - Completely agree.  redqueen   Dec-19-07 04:26 PM   #185 
                             - Please check my post here before we all put this thread on hide...  Juniperx   Dec-19-07 04:39 PM   #188 
  - Nevermind.  redqueen   Dec-19-07 12:12 PM   #60 
     - no problem  RGBolen   Dec-19-07 12:13 PM   #61 
        - D'oh.  redqueen   Dec-19-07 12:14 PM   #65 
  - The frequency with which people who are arrested for crimes are identified as illegal immigrants  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 12:33 PM   #77 
  - So... if they're criminals, they're illegal immigrants?  redqueen   Dec-19-07 12:36 PM   # 
  - Read my post again slowly  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 12:38 PM   #90 
  - That is what is known as a non sequitur.  redqueen   Dec-19-07 12:48 PM   #108 
  - Your question is a red herring  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 12:53 PM   #117 
     - Um... wasn't my question...  redqueen   Dec-19-07 12:54 PM   #119 
     - It was my question, not his/her's.  superduperfarleft   Dec-19-07 02:02 PM   #157 
        - My city has a very high Hispanic population  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 02:18 PM   #162 
           - Sounds like you've found yourself a very... rewarding hobby.  LanternWaste   Dec-19-07 02:44 PM   #172 
              - I have never personally done that, and never would  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 02:49 PM   #174 
  - Odd that.  LanternWaste   Dec-19-07 02:42 PM   #170 
     - My response was totally valid - I LIVE IN SAN DIEGO!  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 03:05 PM   #179 
  - If they are undocumented, living in the USA...  Juniperx   Dec-19-07 02:46 PM   #173 
     - You didn't follow the thread to that point.  redqueen   Dec-19-07 02:51 PM   #176 
        - Ugh... I see...  Juniperx   Dec-19-07 04:13 PM   #183 
  - That doesn't answer my question.  superduperfarleft   Dec-19-07 02:08 PM   #161 
     - Serious answer - Here's how you are supposed to do it  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 06:46 PM   #193 
  - Simplemente en mi barrio...  Juniperx   Dec-19-07 02:02 PM   #158 
  - When you hire anyone, you're supposed to fill out an I-9 form to verify every worker.  Selatius   Dec-19-07 04:45 PM   #189 
  - Plenty of them in the Atlanta metro area.  RebelOne   Dec-19-07 09:53 AM   #22 
  - And you know this because . . . ?  proud2Blib   Dec-19-07 12:04 PM   #54 
  - PA - a few here and there NT  Snarkturian Clone   Dec-19-07 09:57 AM   #28 
  - Here in WA, we still don't require people to wear patches designating their status.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Dec-19-07 10:09 AM   #33 
  - This poll is bullshit. n/t  Lilith Velkor   Dec-19-07 10:51 AM   #39 
  - WTF would "overrunning" mean? Fearmongering bull.  Occam Bandage   Dec-19-07 11:32 AM   #42 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-19-07 11:56 AM   #45 
  - And Teh Blacks too.  superduperfarleft   Dec-19-07 12:01 PM   #48 
  - I guess legal ones don't do that, are great considerate neighbors?  uppityperson   Dec-19-07 12:01 PM   #49 
  - I duu like r mexercuns becoise  Truth2Tell   Dec-19-07 12:07 PM   #57 
  - We have several "undocumented" families on our street.  Common Sense Party   Dec-19-07 12:17 PM   #66 
  - Guess what... "they" are not all the same.  redqueen   Dec-19-07 12:18 PM   #67 
  - Blah blah blah  RedCappedBandit   Dec-19-07 12:33 PM   #78 
  - I do not like them, Occam-I-am.  Occam Bandage   Dec-19-07 12:36 PM   #83 
  - Yeah, those Mexicans  rene moon   Dec-19-07 12:42 PM   #97 
  - I live in Chicago! We have a huge hispanic community.  SemiCharmedQuark   Dec-19-07 01:04 PM   #135 
  - They are literally trashing the back country in San Diego County  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 12:36 PM   #84 
     - I've seen people of all races do the same  RedCappedBandit   Dec-19-07 12:39 PM   #92 
     - When the discarded containers are ALL from Mexican brands and printed in Spanish  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 12:43 PM   #98 
        - And I'm giving you a first-hand report as well.  RedCappedBandit   Dec-19-07 12:47 PM   #104 
        - You're trying to make it a race issue by saying you've seen people of all colors litter  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 12:49 PM   #111 
           - Gasp!  RedCappedBandit   Dec-19-07 12:51 PM   # 
           - Get mad at the freeps that LURE THEM HERE AND HIRE THEM!!  maveric   Dec-19-07 02:27 PM   #165 
              - Hey, I hold them responsible as much as I do the US and Mexican governments  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 02:37 PM   #167 
        - San Diego, in german it means a whales vagina.....................  judaspriestess   Dec-19-07 01:02 PM   #131 
           - The truth can be painful sometimes  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 01:12 PM   #143 
           - LOL! Good one!  Juniperx   Dec-19-07 04:37 PM   #187 
     - That post is disgusting. Seriously.  yardwork   Dec-19-07 01:54 PM   #153 
        - What's wrong with describing the trash and waste they are leaving the back country?  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 01:57 PM   #154 
  - Immigration is 4th and 5th down the list of priorities on polls.  madfloridian   Dec-19-07 11:45 AM   #44 
  - Great point about current priorities with voters.  pampango   Dec-19-07 12:36 PM   #82 
  - TX  RGBolen   Dec-19-07 11:59 AM   #46 
  - Many undocumented people residing in central NC.  Labors of Hercules   Dec-19-07 12:02 PM   #51 
  - NC here too. We have a seasonal worker camp across the road from us...  greguganus   Dec-19-07 12:10 PM   #59 
     - In the small town where I live, the Mexican immigrants aren't  Common Sense Party   Dec-19-07 12:25 PM   #68 
     - "It's those redneck brats" more like it...  Labors of Hercules   Dec-19-07 12:30 PM   #73 
  - I have no idea  proud2Blib   Dec-19-07 12:02 PM   #52 
  - Hawai'i: many immigrants, but most are documented  KamaAina   Dec-19-07 12:06 PM   #55 
  - NY, near Port Chester and the CT border  robcon   Dec-19-07 12:09 PM   #58 
  - CA  Juniperx   Dec-19-07 12:13 PM   #63 
  - Hi Juniperx,  Kajsa   Dec-19-07 01:11 PM   #142 
     - Exactly! Scorn isn't very progressive, is it?  Juniperx   Dec-19-07 01:58 PM   #155 
  - Last option - I live in N. VA.  williesgirl   Dec-19-07 12:26 PM   #70 
  - CA n/t  yawnmaster   Dec-19-07 12:30 PM   #74 
  - Overrunning (southern) California for sure  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 12:30 PM   #75 
  - How can you tell?  RedCappedBandit   Dec-19-07 12:31 PM   #76 
  - The question in the OP is not whether you can identify an individual as an illegal immigrant  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 12:34 PM   #81 
  - Thank you for stating the obvious. n/t  RedCappedBandit   Dec-19-07 12:37 PM   #86 
  - Doesn't answering the question require that a person know whether someone is an illegal immigrant?  redqueen   Dec-19-07 12:37 PM   #87 
  - No  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 12:40 PM   #93 
  - You don't need to know if someone is an illegal immigrant, in order to label them as such.  redqueen   Dec-19-07 12:47 PM   #103 
  - I'm not talking about individuals, I'm talking about entire shanty towns  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 12:50 PM   #114 
     - If there are entire shanty-towns in San Diego...  redqueen   Dec-19-07 01:01 PM   #128 
        - Try "mcgonigle canyon" or "migrant encampment san diego"  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 01:07 PM   #139 
           - That would require fixing their government.  redqueen   Dec-19-07 01:08 PM   #141 
  - So, lets say your area really is being "overrun"  RedCappedBandit   Dec-19-07 12:49 PM   #112 
     - Plenty of blame to go around  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 12:51 PM   #116 
        - You should first look at our own government  RedCappedBandit   Dec-19-07 12:53 PM   #118 
           - Both governments are fully culpable  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 12:54 PM   #120 
  - No. To answer the question, I just looked for some demographic information  Occam Bandage   Dec-19-07 12:49 PM   #113 
     - Well at least you used some kind of logical method  redqueen   Dec-19-07 12:51 PM   #115 
     - They're a big drain on the hospital system here too  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 12:55 PM   #121 
  - It's easy enough in my neighborhood  Juniperx   Dec-19-07 02:01 PM   #156 
  - AS IF you CAN'T tell.....  Megahurtz   Dec-19-07 05:28 PM   #191 
  - How am I supposed to know if they're illegal?  ceile   Dec-19-07 12:33 PM   #79 
  - deleted  redqueen   Dec-19-07 12:38 PM   #88 
  - This is insane.  redqueen   Dec-19-07 12:39 PM   #91 
  - Please don't ignore the reality of the situation, redqueen  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 12:41 PM   #94 
  - Yeah, I'm positive trolls aren't skewing this poll.  redqueen   Dec-19-07 12:45 PM   #101 
     - I'm no troll, and I have personally seen what the influx has done to my area  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 12:47 PM   #105 
        - Have you ever thought about the reasons behind  RedCappedBandit   Dec-19-07 12:47 PM   #107 
        - Yes, and those reasons do not change the fact that my area is being overrun by them  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 12:56 PM   #122 
           - But it should change your outlook  RedCappedBandit   Dec-19-07 12:59 PM   #124 
           - Jeez, now your're spinning me as insensitive because I gave an honest answer to the OP  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 01:00 PM   #125 
              - ...  RedCappedBandit   Dec-19-07 01:02 PM   #130 
                 - I have done no such thing  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 01:03 PM   #134 
                    - Okay then..  RedCappedBandit   Dec-19-07 01:04 PM   #136 
           - You seem to use the word "them" more than any progressive I know of.  LanternWaste   Dec-19-07 02:52 PM   #177 
              - Can you suggest an alternate that serves the same function as the word "them"?  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 03:07 PM   #180 
        - I know several people in SD... none of them are  redqueen   Dec-19-07 12:49 PM   #110 
           - Please point out where I said I was either alarmed or terrified  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 12:57 PM   #123 
           - The beautiful wild areas..  RedCappedBandit   Dec-19-07 01:00 PM   #126 
           - I recommend auto-flagellation  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 01:02 PM   #129 
              - I recommend...  RedCappedBandit   Dec-19-07 01:02 PM   #132 
                 - You seem to be having the same misunderstanding as RedCappedBandit  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 01:05 PM   #137 
                    - I am RedCappedBandit  RedCappedBandit   Dec-19-07 01:06 PM   #138 
                       - Sorry RCB, I got cross-threaded  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 01:12 PM   #144 
           - Sorry for mischaracterizing your views.  redqueen   Dec-19-07 01:03 PM   #133 
           - I am alarmed and terrified on a few counts...  Juniperx   Dec-19-07 04:33 PM   #186 
  - Agreed. n/t  ceile   Dec-19-07 12:41 PM   #95 
  - Agreed, requeen.. n.t  RedCappedBandit   Dec-19-07 12:48 PM   #109 
  - California  goodgd_yall   Dec-19-07 12:46 PM   #102 
  - TX, common  Asgaya Dihi   Dec-19-07 12:47 PM   #106 
  - No panic in SoCal either, but it does create some serious economic and environmental problems  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 01:01 PM   #127 
     - It can  Asgaya Dihi   Dec-19-07 01:14 PM   #146 
        - I agree very much with your post, Asgaya Dihi  slackmaster   Dec-19-07 01:18 PM   #147 
  - OR and illegals are very common.  MiltonF   Dec-19-07 01:13 PM   #145 
  - AK -- I have no clue.  Blue_In_AK   Dec-19-07 01:24 PM   #148 
  - None. How can a person be illegal?  hunter   Dec-19-07 01:27 PM   #149 
  - TX  subliminable   Dec-19-07 01:28 PM   #150 
  - Common, NYC  Dorian Gray   Dec-19-07 01:38 PM   #151 
  - Choice 3, Phoenix, they bother me not a bit. nt  blondeatlast   Dec-19-07 02:05 PM   #159 
  - No category for "I'm Dating an Undocumented Worker"?  LanternWaste   Dec-19-07 02:37 PM   #166 
  - I don't know of any undocumented immigrants  treestar   Dec-19-07 07:14 PM   #194 
  - I've never checked anybody's papers, so I don't know.  rucky   Dec-19-07 07:18 PM   #195 
 

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