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Mon Dec-17-07 09:49 AM
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| -OFFICIAL FISA BILL DISCUSSION THREAD #1 |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 09:01 AM |
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thanks for this reminder. |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 09:01 AM |
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Pledge of Alegience. |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 09:04 AM |
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I don't mean to sound cranky, but what exactly are they |
midnight |
Dec-17-07 09:09 AM |
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Of the corporation, By the Corporation |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 09:13 AM |
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Add "Official" to your thread title |
rocknation |
Dec-17-07 09:04 AM |
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Just did. |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 09:05 AM |
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Listening in... |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 09:04 AM |
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Harry comes to the floor - vote expected at noon |
ThomWV |
Dec-17-07 09:05 AM |
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Reid up. |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 09:06 AM |
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Harry Reid up |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 09:06 AM |
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Time divied up, Leadership time withheld |
ThomWV |
Dec-17-07 09:07 AM |
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McConnell bellows his bullshit (R. Leadership time) |
ThomWV |
Dec-17-07 09:08 AM |
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Reid just said Dodd was to speak. Does anyone know what time he's planning to take the floor? |
in_cog_ni_to |
Dec-17-07 09:07 AM |
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He's at the mic. |
PDittie |
Dec-17-07 09:50 AM |
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oh, crap I hate McConnell |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 09:08 AM |
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Mitch McConnell ... |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 09:09 AM |
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and to do the peoples' business?? |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 09:12 AM |
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Yes it would! |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 09:14 AM |
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Rockefeller is up, controls 20 minutes |
ThomWV |
Dec-17-07 09:10 AM |
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Rockefeller is up. |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 09:10 AM |
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Rockefeller |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 09:12 AM |
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Too much like |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 09:15 AM |
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Jello Jay is bragging about his Intelligence bill right now. |
seafan |
Dec-17-07 09:14 AM |
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I fear that many do not |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 09:17 AM |
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That's my fear as well, citizen_jane. The media failed to inform. Catastrophic failure. |
seafan |
Dec-17-07 09:32 AM |
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As I said in another thread... |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 09:35 AM |
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It is "illegal surveillance" because they captured ALL fiber optic traffic. Wire tapping |
L. Coyote |
Dec-17-07 09:35 AM |
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You and I and |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 09:41 AM |
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Thanks! nt |
babylonsister |
Dec-17-07 09:17 AM |
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Rockefeller is running throught the bill's history now |
ThomWV |
Dec-17-07 09:19 AM |
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Not a word yet about immunity (10:21 am) |
ThomWV |
Dec-17-07 09:22 AM |
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As another DUer suggested. |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 09:24 AM |
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they are trampling all over our rights. |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 09:37 AM |
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Exclusivity question discussed now |
ThomWV |
Dec-17-07 09:25 AM |
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We're being assured that there will |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 09:28 AM |
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impeach the sob and get it over with |
madokie |
Dec-17-07 09:29 AM |
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will this be our Christmas present a Big FU to the American people. |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 09:39 AM |
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Supposedly a "limited" |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 09:30 AM |
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Sen. Jay Rockefeller and the "the $66,600 bargain!" Is it a quid pro quo with the telecoms? |
L. Coyote |
Dec-17-07 09:30 AM |
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Here it is ... Immunity |
ThomWV |
Dec-17-07 09:30 AM |
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Retroactive Immunity... |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 09:31 AM |
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Damn Rockfeller; he's an apologist for the telecom companies. His |
babylonsister |
Dec-17-07 09:31 AM |
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Yep.. |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 09:32 AM |
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His testimony is maddening.,. |
calipendence |
Dec-17-07 09:36 AM |
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I know, and agree it's maddening. We cannot be privy to anything |
babylonsister |
Dec-17-07 09:40 AM |
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Does "the specified timeframe" exclude pre-911 domestic spying? |
jtrockville |
Dec-17-07 09:32 AM |
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shameful, cowardly obfuscation. Patriotosm is the last refuge--and why didn't QWEST obey the order? |
librechik |
Dec-17-07 09:32 AM |
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Nacchio and Qwest: Another Political Prosecution? |
L. Coyote |
Dec-17-07 09:36 AM |
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I cannot wait to hear Dodd. nt |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 09:33 AM |
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Oh, goody, Kit Bond now up. |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 09:34 AM |
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Kit Bond: Our "outmoded" FISA bill! |
calipendence |
Dec-17-07 09:40 AM |
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oh if it isn't the jerk who thinks waterboarding is like swimming. |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 09:34 AM |
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What telecom company has their meathooks in Rockefeller? ..... |
marmar |
Dec-17-07 09:36 AM |
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AT&T $32,500 = Verizon $30,500. What a bargain!! |
L. Coyote |
Dec-17-07 09:40 AM |
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Bwahahaha!!! |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 09:43 AM |
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"Our men and women fighting overseas |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 09:39 AM |
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what the hell is that suppose to mean. |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 09:42 AM |
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Basically he's trying to claim that |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 09:45 AM |
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So taking away our rights here |
Old Broad |
Dec-17-07 09:44 AM |
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Wait a a minute here - did you hear all of what Rockefeller really said? |
ThomWV |
Dec-17-07 09:42 AM |
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I think the whole point is to keep us confused, so we don't know what they are really doing! |
calipendence |
Dec-17-07 09:44 AM |
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those who watch those stations are definitely walking around in a fog. |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 09:45 AM |
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You got it....They excell at Double Talk....so you don't find out what's in a bill for months! |
KoKo01 |
Dec-17-07 10:00 AM |
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I only heard part of what he said but got the distinct impression |
babylonsister |
Dec-17-07 09:50 AM |
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hiding crimes behind language |
Solly Mack |
Dec-17-07 09:46 AM |
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get the hook please. |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 09:49 AM |
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lol..no kidding |
Solly Mack |
Dec-17-07 09:50 AM |
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Oh sit down and shut up .... |
marmar |
Dec-17-07 09:47 AM |
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Is he filibustering? Oye! nt |
babylonsister |
Dec-17-07 09:48 AM |
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Hi guys, I'm here too |
MiniMe |
Dec-17-07 09:48 AM |
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Here's Dodd! |
in_cog_ni_to |
Dec-17-07 09:49 AM |
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Dodd's up! |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 09:49 AM |
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w00t! Dodd up! n/t |
hootinholler |
Dec-17-07 09:49 AM |
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NO, fucklehead. You need a bill that protects and defends the Constitution |
Solly Mack |
Dec-17-07 09:50 AM |
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Dodd is up!!!!! |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 09:50 AM |
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The Democratic party is broken. They've made themselves irrelevant. |
Beelzebud |
Dec-17-07 09:50 AM |
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Sanity comes to the Senate!!!!! |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 09:51 AM |
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He needs to slow-w-w down-n-n-n. nt |
babylonsister |
Dec-17-07 09:53 AM |
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You can tell this issue |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 09:55 AM |
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Yep, but not quite yet. |
tridim |
Dec-17-07 10:08 AM |
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. . . Those who voted for the IWR |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 09:53 AM |
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We need a "Protect America from the President" Act..... |
marmar |
Dec-17-07 09:55 AM |
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I fear, before this is over, it won't be just * we need protection from. nt |
babylonsister |
Dec-17-07 09:57 AM |
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Very true..... |
marmar |
Dec-17-07 09:58 AM |
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I fear you are probably correct. nt |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 10:00 AM |
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Protect the World and the Environment Act from this nutcase. |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 10:01 AM |
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The senate is 'debating' the actions of a criminal administration |
Solly Mack |
Dec-17-07 09:56 AM |
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So true....It's an indicator of how far this country has fallen...... |
marmar |
Dec-17-07 10:06 AM |
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I think so too. (an indicator) |
Solly Mack |
Dec-17-07 10:12 AM |
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Great points, Solly. This whole theatre is lending legitimacy |
babylonsister |
Dec-17-07 10:07 AM |
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"...to an issue that shouldn't even be one.Kind of like torture. " |
Solly Mack |
Dec-17-07 10:15 AM |
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Alright Chris Dodd! |
marmar |
Dec-17-07 10:00 AM |
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short memories is right!! |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 10:07 AM |
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Dodd fucking ROCKS! |
Dhalgren |
Dec-17-07 10:03 AM |
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Just called Senator Boxer's office |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 10:06 AM |
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Not allowed? That's odd, isn't it? |
babylonsister |
Dec-17-07 10:08 AM |
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VERY disturbing, isn't it? |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 10:12 AM |
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Many Americans don't care, they really don't |
debbierlus |
Dec-17-07 10:18 AM |
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Dodd is making one of the most important speeches of our lifetimes on the Senate floor today. |
watrwefitinfor |
Dec-17-07 10:06 AM |
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the media wants to keep the american people as usual dumbed down. |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 10:08 AM |
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Dodd .... |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 10:08 AM |
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oof I have to excuse myself, |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 10:12 AM |
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S'okay... |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 10:16 AM |
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Preach on, brother Chris! |
marmar |
Dec-17-07 10:11 AM |
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I'm here |
shadowknows69 |
Dec-17-07 10:12 AM |
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more of them have to kick ass. |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 10:16 AM |
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Amen to that |
shadowknows69 |
Dec-17-07 10:20 AM |
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CSpan 2 is down in the Pittsburgh Area (Comcast)... |
Junkdrawer |
Dec-17-07 10:15 AM |
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Comcast sucks..... |
marmar |
Dec-17-07 10:17 AM |
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Try this link and choose your player to listen online to CSpan2, Senate session: |
seafan |
Dec-17-07 10:28 AM |
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do you have computer to listen or watch? |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 10:17 AM |
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I'm watching online now... |
Junkdrawer |
Dec-17-07 10:19 AM |
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You can stream it |
Nictuku |
Dec-17-07 10:19 AM |
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For this executive branch, Secrecy is Power |
liberalla |
Dec-17-07 10:17 AM |
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Me too!!!! |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 10:19 AM |
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"If the case would go to trial, the corporations would lose." |
marmar |
Dec-17-07 10:20 AM |
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Dodd is doing good. |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 10:20 AM |
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Saying that A.T.&T. |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 10:21 AM |
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Is it time |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 10:21 AM |
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"bring checks and balances... |
G_Leo_Criley |
Dec-17-07 10:22 AM |
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Moving this Tread here: |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 10:23 AM |
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...... |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 10:28 AM |
#119 |