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Wed Dec-12-07 02:54 AM
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| 61. If you're fanatical enough to order torture . . . you want to be sure that the dummies are |
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doing what you told them --- and you need pics to be sure that they are doing it right!!!
PLUS, without doubt, Bush/Cheney are getting off on all this violence --- !!!
They're not human ---
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| -in 2004, Seymour Hersh said torture tapes show RAPE and MURDER |
nashville_brook |
Dec-10-07 09:34 AM |
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Hersh really, really deserves some kind of medal |
rurallib |
Dec-10-07 09:36 AM |
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I totally agree with you there. |
Sugar Smack |
Dec-10-07 09:38 AM |
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K&R |
dicksteele |
Dec-10-07 09:43 AM |
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K&R...where are the copies of THOSE tapes? |
w8liftinglady |
Dec-10-07 09:44 AM |
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i am wondering if Hersh will be on KO this week to talk about this... |
nashville_brook |
Dec-10-07 09:46 AM |
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I remember him writing about the sounds of children screaming. |
Sugar Smack |
Dec-10-07 09:49 AM |
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perhaps that's why he's not chimed into the debate yet... i found a link to a recent |
nashville_brook |
Dec-10-07 09:55 AM |
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The link isn't working for me, but thank you. |
Sugar Smack |
Dec-10-07 10:46 AM |
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If these atrocities did occur... |
Aviation Pro |
Dec-10-07 09:45 AM |
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Hersh was talking about Abu Graib. And the images were |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-10-07 09:51 AM |
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i believe torture is aimed at the culture at-large. it's terrorism by the elites... |
nashville_brook |
Dec-10-07 10:01 AM |
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Yes, it's a display of power and we are the audience |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-10-07 10:06 AM |
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That's correct. And instead of working, it produced |
mmonk |
Dec-10-07 10:20 AM |
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We are in Iraq for the oil. The occupation is resisted for the reasons you cite, et.al. |
L. Coyote |
Dec-10-07 10:02 AM |
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Yes, we are the for the oil and occupations do create resistance |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-10-07 10:17 AM |
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creating a culture of insurgency is job security for Blackwater and the US military n/t |
nashville_brook |
Dec-10-07 10:21 AM |
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Yes, it is. And don't forget, Buzzy Krongard was #3 at CIA before |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-10-07 10:41 AM |
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Omg, and Jeremy Scahill just said that J. Coffer Black is working |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-10-07 10:47 AM |
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i just saw that too! |
nashville_brook |
Dec-10-07 10:49 AM |
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I wonder how many campaigns have a Blackwater consultant. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-10-07 10:50 AM |
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And the pay off -- Blackwater has been recruiting Jose Rodriguez |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-10-07 11:01 AM |
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actually,I think they should face Iraq and Afghanistan courts...and justice. |
w8liftinglady |
Dec-10-07 09:52 AM |
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Exactly, let them hang in the same spot Saddam died... |
countryjake |
Dec-10-07 11:16 AM |
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Kaboom... That Would Go a Long Way to Healing Tensions in the Middle East |
fascisthunter |
Dec-10-07 05:32 PM |
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And when Kerry, Dean, Clark and Gore were calling for Rumsfeld's job, many of |
blm |
Dec-10-07 09:51 AM |
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NOTHING Hersh has reported EVER pans out. |
MNDemNY |
Dec-10-07 09:57 AM |
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Could you get this |
rwork |
Dec-10-07 10:00 AM |
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there used to be an email address for KO, but i've noticed that it's gone now -- |
nashville_brook |
Dec-10-07 10:02 AM |
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I think it's 'countdown@msnbc.com', unless it's changed recently |
hisownpetard |
Dec-10-07 10:43 AM |
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thanks. |
nashville_brook |
Dec-10-07 10:51 AM |
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here's a link to the original New Yorker article -->> |
nashville_brook |
Dec-10-07 10:20 AM |
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Almost certainly not the same. |
igil |
Dec-10-07 10:24 AM |
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It makes you wonder how much of this type of material BushCo has. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-10-07 10:45 AM |
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i totally agree -- there's prolly heaps of video -- i'm very interested in Larisa Alexandrovna's |
nashville_brook |
Dec-10-07 10:48 AM |
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republicon homelanders = Evil Doers |
SpiralHawk |
Dec-10-07 10:51 AM |
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Amazing! and the Bush machine manages to keep this 'intel' under wraps and |
Imagevision |
Dec-10-07 11:39 AM |
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That's a completely different thing you're talking about. |
TheWraith |
Dec-10-07 02:18 PM |
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yes, i know -- sorry if it muddies the issue -- my point is that these aren't the only tapes |
nashville_brook |
Dec-10-07 04:33 PM |
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I've been waiting since this article was printed for these tapes to get their |
tekisui |
Dec-10-07 02:20 PM |
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I've never forgotten this - and always wonder how.... |
quiet.american |
Dec-10-07 05:08 PM |
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I wondered, too. |
southerncrone |
Dec-10-07 06:30 PM |
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A corporate Congress . . .???? |
defendandprotect |
Dec-10-07 08:25 PM |
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I saw Hersh here in town back in 2005. Wrote about it here >>>> |
Roland99 |
Dec-10-07 08:02 PM |
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In reading this again --- and let's make clear this is rape of CHILDREN, as well --- |
defendandprotect |
Dec-10-07 08:13 PM |
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don't need a perv for that ; |
FreedomRain |
Dec-10-07 10:41 PM |
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You mean you think that any ordinary male soldier would do this --- ???? |
defendandprotect |
Dec-12-07 02:52 AM |
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Several congressmembers saw this as well....nothing more said about it. nt |
wiggs |
Dec-10-07 08:24 PM |
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ding ding ding!! |
nashville_brook |
Dec-11-07 08:50 AM |
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I remember a judge ruled that these tapes with children being raped must be released |
antiimperialist |
Dec-10-07 10:56 PM |
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i remember that too -- it's why i posted this. |
nashville_brook |
Dec-11-07 09:22 AM |
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Those are the tapes which Donald Rumsfeld has kept for his private collection |
whistle |
Dec-10-07 11:18 PM |
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Not the same. |
smoogatz |
Dec-11-07 12:17 AM |
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yes, i know -- sorry if it muddies the issue -- my point is that these aren't the only tapes |
nashville_brook |
Dec-11-07 08:49 AM |
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Do you remember that they found HUNDREDS of tapes of |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-11-07 09:13 AM |
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NO! i totally missed this. holy crap -- i just watched a crappy movie called The Black Book |
nashville_brook |
Dec-11-07 09:20 AM |
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It's consistent with people like Cheney (and Rudy) who micromanage. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-11-07 09:43 AM |
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If you're fanatical enough to order torture . . . you want to be sure that the dummies are |
defendandprotect |
Dec-12-07 02:54 AM |
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I did a video on torture & used a lot of clips of Seymour Hersh |
George Oilwellian |
Dec-11-07 10:11 AM |
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I'll tell you where the copies are |
burythehatchet |
Dec-11-07 10:14 AM |
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or the "man-size" safe in his office. n/t |
timeforarevolution |
Dec-11-07 10:17 AM |
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That's where he keeps the live children to harvest their organs n/t |
burythehatchet |
Dec-11-07 10:24 AM |
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I've often joked - well, half-joked - that when Cheney disappears, he is off |
Solly Mack |
Dec-12-07 04:26 AM |
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