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Mon Dec-10-07 07:46 PM
Response to Reply #15 |
| 131. Hell, I'll call 'em racist and sexist |
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I'm not afraid of calling people out on their unconsidered biases.
The OP is right - half the people here who say they don't like Oprah are saying it's because she's bossy or overbearing or patronizing. Women have heard it all before - you've got to be a "man in a man's world" but as soon as you do anything a man could do without criticism, you stop being feminine and demure. People of color have heard it all before - as soon as they succeed at anything in the "white man's world", they're not "black enough" any more.
Consider your motivations. If you wouldn't criticize George Clooney for his endorsement of a (white, male) candidate, then leave Oprah and Obama alone or at least consider that there's a double standard on the part of the criticizer.
I think the OP was spot-fucking-on.
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| -Damned Uppity Black Women |
matcom |
Dec-09-07 08:10 AM |
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Yeah, people should be more honest with their problem (they don't like Obama) |
jpgray |
Dec-09-07 08:11 AM |
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What if you don't like either? n/t |
NWHarkness |
Dec-09-07 08:14 AM |
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Say why you don't like them? Do you have a problem with the fact of the endorsement? |
jpgray |
Dec-09-07 08:16 AM |
#5 |
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She has every right to endorse |
NWHarkness |
Dec-09-07 08:35 AM |
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That's totally fair, in my view. |
jpgray |
Dec-09-07 08:35 AM |
#17 |
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He's running for President, right? |
Labors of Hercules |
Dec-09-07 12:34 PM |
#71 |
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I don't particularly like Oprah. |
MADem |
Dec-09-07 08:55 AM |
#26 |
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What you said. |
DesertedRose |
Dec-09-07 10:13 AM |
#47 |
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Exactly |
Dorian Gray |
Dec-09-07 10:38 AM |
#58 |
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I totally share your opinion about the big O |
Carni |
Dec-09-07 07:51 PM |
#97 |
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EWWWW--I didn't realize she interviewed the Monkey. I knew she did Ahhh-nuld. |
MADem |
Dec-10-07 07:32 PM |
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I thought it was just me that hated the giveaways? It seems so paternalistic. n/t |
progressivebydesign |
Dec-09-07 11:03 PM |
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What about the people |
citizen_jane |
Dec-09-07 08:16 AM |
#6 |
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Again, is it the fact of the endorsement that's the problem? The likely effect of the endorsement? |
jpgray |
Dec-09-07 08:19 AM |
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It is the likely effect, |
citizen_jane |
Dec-09-07 09:08 AM |
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Well my problem is that I really don't like Oprah |
JVS |
Dec-09-07 10:27 AM |
#53 |
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I turned her off 20 years ago |
sandnsea |
Dec-09-07 11:49 AM |
#67 |
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i really don't like Obama |
sniffa |
Dec-09-07 10:29 AM |
#54 |
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Aren't you the clever lad!! It is comical, I think. A waste of energy, IMO. NT |
MADem |
Dec-09-07 10:35 AM |
#56 |
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Is it racisim? No? Is it sexism? No? What is it? |
flashl |
Dec-09-07 08:12 AM |
#2 |
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People see it as an unfair advantage. And it is, in lots of ways |
jpgray |
Dec-09-07 08:13 AM |
#3 |
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Then why bring celeb endorsements into the campaign vortex? |
flashl |
Dec-09-07 08:17 AM |
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In a perfect world money and influence behind a point of view shouldn't matter |
jpgray |
Dec-09-07 08:21 AM |
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The problem is solve when we move from Infotainment. |
flashl |
Dec-09-07 08:42 AM |
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Media ownership regulation and public financing of campaigns could fix a lot |
jpgray |
Dec-09-07 08:44 AM |
#21 |
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In many ways, the power of celebrity worship is tied to the American dream |
flashl |
Dec-09-07 09:00 AM |
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Life ain't fair. Look at the asshole in the White House. No way THAT's fair!! nt |
MADem |
Dec-09-07 08:58 AM |
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You don't mean that these same people would be lauding |
hedgehog |
Dec-09-07 04:40 PM |
#82 |
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And the goperverts |
zidzi |
Dec-09-07 08:15 PM |
#100 |
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Is it racisim? No? Is it sexism? No? What is it? --> duh! common sense?!? |
Imagevision |
Dec-09-07 11:17 AM |
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It's both. |
Chovexani |
Dec-09-07 05:36 PM |
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it's that a lot of people don't like her, more than anything. n/t |
progressivebydesign |
Dec-09-07 11:04 PM |
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Oh, I cannot stand Oprah... Pretending to psycho-analyze people and |
glowing |
Dec-09-07 08:17 AM |
#7 |
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what she said!!!!!! |
madmom |
Dec-09-07 08:24 AM |
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Thanks |
glowing |
Dec-09-07 08:56 AM |
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I have a problem with the COVERAGE of her endorsement... |
joeybee12 |
Dec-09-07 08:20 AM |
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I agree. With all the coverage of Oprah's endorsement, how will |
hedgehog |
Dec-09-07 04:42 PM |
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Wow. "If you don't like Oprah you're a racist!!"? |
MethuenProgressive |
Dec-09-07 08:26 AM |
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Hardly |
matcom |
Dec-09-07 08:27 AM |
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Hardly - it's *you* projecting racism - and calling your fellow DUers racists. |
MethuenProgressive |
Dec-09-07 08:34 AM |
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if it makes you think that... |
matcom |
Dec-09-07 08:36 AM |
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I repeat: Your OP, and your defense of it, is disgusting. |
MethuenProgressive |
Dec-09-07 08:40 AM |
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I'm surprised that you don't "get it". |
Blue-Jay |
Dec-09-07 03:02 PM |
#75 |
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... |
sniffa |
Dec-09-07 10:30 AM |
#55 |
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*points and laughs* |
DS1 |
Dec-09-07 12:27 PM |
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good grief calm down there little feller... |
Whisp |
Dec-09-07 12:41 PM |
#72 |
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Hell, I'll call 'em racist and sexist |
lukasahero |
Dec-10-07 07:46 PM |
#131 |
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I found the premise a bit off-putting, myself. As I said upthread, I don't like Oprah much. |
MADem |
Dec-09-07 09:02 AM |
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The OP doesn't say that but instead defends Oprah's right |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-09-07 11:58 AM |
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That is not what the OP was saying |
Quixote1818 |
Dec-09-07 04:35 PM |
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Gazillionaire Black women who buy cars for other people |
undeterred |
Dec-09-07 08:45 AM |
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Meh, she's anti-union. /nt |
readmoreoften |
Dec-09-07 08:46 AM |
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women who buy cars for other people |
undeterred |
Dec-09-07 08:47 AM |
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I'm not sure what the rest of your rant is about |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-09-07 08:52 AM |
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in a nutshell |
matcom |
Dec-09-07 08:57 AM |
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I dont care which |
sabbat hunter |
Dec-09-07 08:58 AM |
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Maybe Edwards will file a lawsuit. |
ileus |
Dec-09-07 09:04 AM |
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Karl Rove, is that you? |
brentspeak |
Dec-09-07 04:50 PM |
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Where's Streisand when we need her? Jewish women should... |
TreasonousBastard |
Dec-09-07 09:06 AM |
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Streisand has come out in support of Hillary |
lukasahero |
Dec-10-07 07:49 PM |
#132 |
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What I think is funny about the whole thing is how influential |
Evergreen Emerald |
Dec-09-07 09:09 AM |
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I have no problem with Oprah |
Libby2 |
Dec-09-07 09:11 AM |
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She's leaving it up to the "pundents." nt |
MookieWilson |
Dec-09-07 09:13 AM |
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I feel the same way about plain old women endorsing Hillary Clinton |
Bitwit1234 |
Dec-09-07 09:26 AM |
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Well her endorsement |
JustAnotherGen |
Dec-09-07 09:28 AM |
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Very well said, full of wisdom n/t |
ellacott |
Dec-09-07 07:39 PM |
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I think all celebrity endorsements are stupid |
dsc |
Dec-09-07 09:31 AM |
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I don't really care if Oprah or Obama are black or whatever. |
Rene |
Dec-09-07 09:31 AM |
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I haven't seen it here, but I did hear that argument on NPR this morning. |
izzybeans |
Dec-09-07 09:33 AM |
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I take that back |
izzybeans |
Dec-09-07 10:05 AM |
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Hmm. So, did Barbara Streisand endorse Hillary because they're both white?? |
hisownpetard |
Dec-09-07 11:27 AM |
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Did you ask her? Just wondering. |
izzybeans |
Dec-09-07 06:30 PM |
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#95 was supposed to go to you; instead, I sent it to myself! Time for a nap... |
hisownpetard |
Dec-09-07 08:54 PM |
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self-delete/dupe/I really DO need a nap |
hisownpetard |
Dec-09-07 08:54 PM |
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Just wanted to point out how ridiculous it would be to say that, and therefore |
hisownpetard |
Dec-09-07 07:20 PM |
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Thank you; I just saw that vile poll. Celeb endorsements make no difference to me, but sheesh, they |
blondeatlast |
Dec-09-07 10:08 AM |
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Seems like there are a lot of folks who think her endorsement is racially driven. |
davsand |
Dec-09-07 10:11 AM |
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Meh, she has as much right to endorse a product as the next vapid overpaid celebrity. nt |
Mark Twain Girl |
Dec-09-07 10:14 AM |
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I think you have a point |
KingFlorez |
Dec-09-07 10:16 AM |
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More Matcom |
OzarkDem |
Dec-09-07 10:19 AM |
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eh |
matcom |
Dec-09-07 10:21 AM |
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Oprah IS powerful and it scares those in power just like Hillary did. |
live love laugh |
Dec-09-07 10:20 AM |
#51 |
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How many people here |
Dorian Gray |
Dec-09-07 10:37 AM |
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Nice post, Hitler. |
Midlodemocrat |
Dec-09-07 10:39 AM |
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.. |
matcom |
Dec-09-07 11:13 AM |
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The o.p., especially the headline, DOES make it racist, despite sarcasm & satire |
UTUSN |
Dec-09-07 11:13 AM |
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please see #18 |
matcom |
Dec-09-07 11:16 AM |
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Why would a personal slap at (my, at least) sincere post "work here too"? n/t |
UTUSN |
Dec-09-07 11:45 AM |
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Maybe Huckabee or Rudy can get laura Bush to schtump for them...? |
Imagevision |
Dec-09-07 11:19 AM |
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Nobody complained when they dragged Bill Clinton out here |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-09-07 12:00 PM |
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Thank you |
tammywammy |
Dec-09-07 01:26 PM |
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I don't think it's about that at all. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Dec-09-07 02:57 PM |
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But, doesn't that go back to the way we fund our elections more than |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-09-07 03:05 PM |
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Who is stopping Oprah from exercising her civil rights? |
The Backlash Cometh |
Dec-09-07 03:17 PM |
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Were there 25 threads on DU the last time Penn voiced an opinion? |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-09-07 04:12 PM |
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What's going on? |
Swamp Rat |
Dec-09-07 04:39 PM |
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I think the Hillary crowd is just jealous that Obama got her support |
Quixote1818 |
Dec-09-07 04:54 PM |
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Imo, because we don't get enough exercise. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-09-07 07:51 PM |
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LOLOL!! |
Swamp Rat |
Dec-09-07 10:58 PM |
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So good to see you, Swampy. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-09-07 11:13 PM |
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¿Todo bien? |
Swamp Rat |
Dec-09-07 11:24 PM |
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DU appears to be heavily patronized by progressives who support |
The Backlash Cometh |
Dec-09-07 04:48 PM |
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I don't feel sorry for Oprah. I'm sure she can take care of herself! |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-09-07 08:26 PM |
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But if Oprah had endorsed Hillary you would be all for it! |
Quixote1818 |
Dec-09-07 04:57 PM |
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Um...think again. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Dec-09-07 05:14 PM |
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More power to 'em. |
Perry Logan |
Dec-09-07 04:17 PM |
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I don't give a flying fig about Oprah (or any other celebrity) endorsing whoever |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Dec-09-07 05:01 PM |
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I agree to a point |
Quixote1818 |
Dec-09-07 05:11 PM |
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I'm not impugning the intelligence of celebrities, |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Dec-09-07 05:52 PM |
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It's the new version of "Who would you like to have a beer with?". |
Beausoir |
Dec-09-07 07:53 PM |
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We know where that got us last time |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Dec-09-07 09:16 PM |
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I've cared a bit about a celeb endorsement, unless it was someone totally unsavory. |
progressivebydesign |
Dec-09-07 11:07 PM |
#111 |
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You win at life, again. |
Chovexani |
Dec-09-07 05:24 PM |
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Damned uppity LOUNGE PEOPLE!1 n/t |
UTUSN |
Dec-09-07 08:58 PM |
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I get the point, for sure. But I just don't care for Oprah at all.. |
progressivebydesign |
Dec-09-07 11:02 PM |
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Actually, if you look at her fans and audience, I wouldn't use her to court black voters. |
progressivebydesign |
Dec-09-07 11:05 PM |
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Can someone explain the Oprah thing to me? |
Prophet 451 |
Dec-09-07 11:08 PM |
#112 |
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Do you want brain damage? |
Swamp Rat |
Dec-09-07 11:26 PM |
#115 |
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*cue blast of machine gun fire* |
Prophet 451 |
Dec-09-07 11:31 PM |
#118 |
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Lieutenant George: Oh, sir, if we should happen to tread on a mine, what do we do? |
Swamp Rat |
Dec-09-07 11:38 PM |
#120 |
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Rat-au-van? |
Prophet 451 |
Dec-09-07 11:45 PM |
#121 |
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Oh, I'm sorry, sir! |
Swamp Rat |
Dec-09-07 11:51 PM |
#122 |
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He missed "sausage" out of his dictionary |
Prophet 451 |
Dec-09-07 11:56 PM |
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That is my favorite episode, |
Swamp Rat |
Dec-10-07 12:01 AM |
#124 |
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You think, just because we're actors, we'll sleep with everyone! |
Prophet 451 |
Dec-10-07 12:08 AM |
#125 |
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My father, Daddy Ploppy, was known as "Ploppy, the Slopper"! It was from him that I inherited my |
Swamp Rat |
Dec-10-07 12:16 AM |
#126 |
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Haven't even seen that |
Prophet 451 |
Dec-10-07 12:19 AM |
#127 |
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Really?!? It's the funniest thing since Hieronymus Bosch ate ergot of rye bread! |
Swamp Rat |
Dec-10-07 12:27 AM |
#128 |
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A couple of posters decided that if Oprah endorsed Obama |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-09-07 11:28 PM |
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Thanks |
Prophet 451 |
Dec-09-07 11:29 PM |
#117 |
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We're still suffering from Puritanism and so, the cult of the individual. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-09-07 11:36 PM |
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As my daughter would say |
mzmolly |
Dec-10-07 01:03 AM |
#129 |
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