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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 08:24 PM
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10. I completely disagree with #1
Having goals helps to draw them to you.
And expectation is a powerful tool in reality creation.
A lot of people use visualization as a tool. Their expectation about the outcome is important.

"Furthermore the sense of accomplishment for achieving a goal seldom lasts long enough to justify the stress.
That would depend on the goal.

"Basing your happiness on goals is often the result of an internal attempt to bargain your way to happiness."
Having goals and bargaining aren't the same thing.
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  -Want to be happy? Az  Feb-18-07 07:01 PM   #0 
  - Interesting  ayeshahaqqiqa   Feb-18-07 07:30 PM   #1 
  - That's what I thought too  sleebarker   Feb-18-07 08:31 PM   #12 
  - welcome to DU!  ayeshahaqqiqa   Feb-19-07 06:37 AM   #42 
  - It's also Christianity  dmesg   Feb-19-07 11:44 AM   #55 
  - Nah, not so much.  The Stranger   Feb-19-07 01:33 PM   #64 
     - That heaven/hell thing was not in the New Testament but added  truedelphi   Feb-19-07 02:31 PM   #66 
     - Changing "The kingdom of heaven" to "heaven as a place you go after death" was a later addition  dmesg   Feb-19-07 05:04 PM   #74 
        - Well, the hook was fall/redemption, whenever that was installed into the theology.  The Stranger   Feb-20-07 10:00 AM   #84 
  - it is very Zen Buddhist  ktlyon   Feb-19-07 04:10 PM   #69 
  - The place where they meet is truly sublime  tavalon   Feb-19-07 07:47 AM   #45 
  - quit complaining too  AZDemDist6   Feb-18-07 07:39 PM   #2 
  - Actually that is covered in the article as well  Az   Feb-18-07 07:45 PM   #3 
  - that is living in the moment  ktlyon   Feb-19-07 04:11 PM   #70 
  - yuppers!  AZDemDist6   Feb-20-07 08:26 AM   #82 
  - Sounds like Gandhi:  Delphinus   Feb-20-07 05:16 PM   #87 
  - a kick and a rec and a prayer  stellanoir   Feb-18-07 07:48 PM   #4 
  - Now if I can just remember to do all this....at the precise moments  B Calm   Feb-18-07 07:51 PM   #5 
  - Will I look like your avatar?  The Straight Story   Feb-18-07 07:57 PM   #6 
  - Na  Az   Feb-18-07 07:59 PM   #7 
     - I'd say it is fortunate they are rare...  davsand   Feb-18-07 08:02 PM   #8 
  - Very nice, Az. Kicking & recommending. n/t  I Have A Dream   Feb-18-07 08:05 PM   #9 
  - I completely disagree with #1  nicknameless   Feb-18-07 08:24 PM   #10 
  - Agree with you  PADemD   Feb-18-07 08:28 PM   #11 
  - You can disagree  Az   Feb-18-07 08:31 PM   #13 
  - Which studies? Links?  nicknameless   Feb-18-07 08:38 PM   #14 
  - Translation please...  RiverStone   Feb-18-07 11:38 PM   #31 
     - My experience, as someone who started a business  wildeyed   Feb-19-07 10:19 AM   #52 
        - Thanks for the perspective...  RiverStone   Feb-19-07 02:02 PM   #65 
           - It would be scarier to do with kids.  wildeyed   Feb-19-07 04:49 PM   #72 
  - having goals and constantly meeting them can work for a while  unblock   Feb-18-07 08:45 PM   #16 
  - Having the goal isn't what causes unhappiness.  nicknameless   Feb-18-07 08:55 PM   #18 
     - i'm open to the idea that there's a way to do goals "properly"  unblock   Feb-18-07 09:03 PM   #20 
        - There are a number of things to consider.  nicknameless   Feb-18-07 09:13 PM   #22 
  - I understand your point  NobleCynic   Feb-18-07 08:48 PM   #17 
  - Link?  nicknameless   Feb-18-07 08:59 PM   #19 
     - Unfortunately, unless you have a subscription  NobleCynic   Feb-18-07 09:15 PM   #24 
        - Not everyones goals are the same.  nicknameless   Feb-18-07 09:40 PM   #25 
           - I believe as it is defined  NobleCynic   Feb-18-07 10:04 PM   #26 
           - A-type personalities may include people who set goals, but NOT ALL people who set goals are A-types.  nicknameless   Feb-18-07 10:18 PM   #27 
              - You are absolutely correct  NobleCynic   Feb-18-07 11:19 PM   #30 
                 - No. A-types and goal-setters aren't synonymous.  nicknameless   Feb-18-07 11:59 PM   #33 
                    - I'm not saying they're synonymous  NobleCynic   Feb-19-07 01:03 AM   #37 
                       - They are NOT selling something  nicknameless   Feb-19-07 01:24 AM   #38 
                          - A motivational speaker is most definitely "selling something"  NobleCynic   Feb-19-07 01:13 PM   #62 
                             - You are hopelessly deluded, if you believe a word of what you just wrote.  nicknameless   Feb-19-07 05:49 PM   #75 
                                - Look. You misunderstand each of my arguments,  NobleCynic   Feb-20-07 08:46 PM   #89 
                                   - You have yet to post a non-disingenuous reply, save your first one.  nicknameless   Feb-20-07 08:59 PM   #90 
                                      - Not getting through at all...  NobleCynic   Feb-20-07 09:30 PM   #91 
           - The houses being built now are a helluva lot bigger than they were 50 years ago.  raccoon   Feb-19-07 10:01 AM   #51 
              - Oh please.  nicknameless   Feb-19-07 05:52 PM   #76 
                 - I said in some places houses were way overpriced. nt  raccoon   Feb-20-07 08:00 AM   #81 
                    - The original claim was that people's buying power is greater than it was 50 years ago.  nicknameless   Feb-20-07 05:10 PM   #86 
  - It needs a better explanation, I believe.  TahitiNut   Feb-19-07 12:21 AM   #35 
  - Yes. There are a lot of variables here.  nicknameless   Feb-19-07 12:59 AM   #36 
  - This is, of course, just anecdotal  dmesg   Feb-19-07 11:45 AM   #56 
  - Its all anecdotal.  nicknameless   Feb-20-07 06:17 PM   #88 
  - The human experience is based upon opportunity, not goals  SimpleTrend   Feb-19-07 02:56 PM   #68 
  - I think it means not obsessing  ktlyon   Feb-19-07 04:16 PM   #71 
  - i'm really psyched about this whole "positivite psychology" line of research  unblock   Feb-18-07 08:43 PM   #15 
  - Interesting  Southpawkicker   Feb-18-07 09:06 PM   #21 
  - Or  Gregorian   Feb-18-07 09:15 PM   #23 
  - I cannot believe nobody recognized the true essential core of happiness here!  Gregorian   Feb-19-07 12:50 PM   #60 
  - Love helps lead to happiness.  Jonathan50   Feb-18-07 10:40 PM   #28 
  - "Happiness is simply getting enough sleep."  Lilith Velkor   Feb-19-07 11:15 AM   #54 
     - Very true.  Blue in Portland   Feb-20-07 10:03 AM   #85 
  - Thanks for this. It helped a lot. Cheers!  BigBearJohn   Feb-18-07 11:12 PM   #29 
  - Let me recommend a similar philosophy...and it's a cheap book!  tomreedtoon   Feb-18-07 11:58 PM   #32 
  - Sorry, self delete! (That ol' demon "couldn't post" again.)  tomreedtoon   Feb-19-07 12:04 AM   #34 
  - I"m surprised the list doesn't have "gratitude" at the #1 position  renate   Feb-19-07 01:44 AM   #39 
  - Hmm  undergroundpanther   Feb-19-07 03:04 AM   #40 
  - This all sounds good until you get to your dysfunctional workplace..  B Calm   Feb-19-07 05:36 AM   #41 
  - Amen to that  BluePatriot   Feb-19-07 11:51 AM   #57 
     - Within the first hour at work today I forgot the lessons in the OP.  B Calm   Feb-19-07 04:51 PM   #73 
        - It's a new day... Maybe it'll be different....  B Calm   Feb-20-07 05:31 AM   #80 
  - I get lots of emails about this - apparently happiness involves bigger boobs and a better erection.  progressoid   Feb-19-07 07:26 AM   #43 
  - Very Zen.  Boogie   Feb-19-07 07:31 AM   #44 
  - Thanks for posting this, Az!  Karenina   Feb-19-07 08:28 AM   #46 
  - Hmmm. So the key to happiness is giving up?  bryant69   Feb-19-07 08:32 AM   #47 
  - more like "non-attachment" -- eschew "maya" or illusion  nashville_brook   Feb-19-07 12:49 PM   #59 
  - What about number two?  Unca Jim   Feb-19-07 09:39 AM   #48 
  - Welcome to DU  NobleCynic   Feb-19-07 01:30 PM   #63 
  - Interesting ...  Everybody   Feb-19-07 09:41 AM   #49 
  - So that's why we're all crazy  NoMoreMyths   Feb-19-07 09:57 AM   #50 
  - I wish I had been less focused on goals when I was younger.  wildeyed   Feb-19-07 10:40 AM   #53 
  - no worries about global warming, peak oil and the oil wars  rman   Feb-19-07 12:25 PM   #58 
  - And......  demrabble   Feb-19-07 12:51 PM   #61 
  - Another road to happiness...  cooolandrew   Feb-19-07 02:39 PM   #67 
  - Just had a major cancer scare and major surgery at 42  Carni   Feb-19-07 08:15 PM   #77 
  - "Happiness" is ill-defined  dmesg   Feb-19-07 10:34 PM   #78 
  - I get sad thinking about happiness. Striving for contentment makes me anxious.  autorank   Feb-20-07 05:19 AM   #79 
  - Agreed. Try doing something nice for someone, just to have done so.  Peake   Feb-20-07 08:33 AM   #83 
 

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