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NATIONAL SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE/NSPD 51

HOMELAND SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE/HSPD-20

Subject: National Continuity Policy

Purpose

(1) This directive establishes a comprehensive national policy on the continuity of Federal Government structures and operations and a single National Continuity Coordinator responsible for coordinating the development and implementation of Federal continuity policies. This policy establishes "National Essential Functions," prescribes continuity requirements for all executive departments and agencies, and provides guidance for State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector organizations in order to ensure a comprehensive and integrated national continuity program that will enhance the credibility of our national security posture and enable a more rapid and effective response to and recovery from a national emergency.

Definitions

(2) In this directive:

(a) "Category" refers to the categories of executive departments and agencies listed in Annex A to this directive;

(b) "Catastrophic Emergency" means any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions;

(c) "Continuity of Government," or "COG," means a coordinated effort within the Federal Government's executive branch to ensure that National Essential Functions continue to be performed during a Catastrophic Emergency;

(d) "Continuity of Operations," or "COOP," means an effort within individual executive departments and agencies to ensure that Primary Mission-Essential Functions continue to be performed during a wide range of emergencies, including localized acts of nature, accidents, and technological or attack-related emergencies;

(e) "Enduring Constitutional Government," or "ECG," means a cooperative effort among the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of the Federal Government, coordinated by the President, as a matter of comity with respect to the legislative and judicial branches and with proper respect for the constitutional separation of powers among the branches, to preserve the constitutional framework under which the Nation is governed and the capability of all three branches of government to execute constitutional responsibilities and provide for orderly succession, appropriate transition of leadership, and interoperability and support of the National Essential Functions during a catastrophic emergency;

(f) "Executive Departments and Agencies" means the executive departments enumerated in 5 U.S.C. 101, independent establishments as defined by 5 U.S.C. 104(1), Government corporations as defined by 5 U.S.C. 103(1), and the United States Postal Service;

(g) "Government Functions" means the collective functions of the heads of executive departments and agencies as defined by statute, regulation, presidential direction, or other legal authority, and the functions of the legislative and judicial branches;

(h) "National Essential Functions," or "NEFs," means that subset of Government Functions that are necessary to lead and sustain the Nation during a catastrophic emergency and that, therefore, must be supported through COOP and COG capabilities; and

(i) "Primary Mission Essential Functions," or "PMEFs," means those Government Functions that must be performed in order to support or implement the performance of NEFs before, during, and in the aftermath of an emergency.

Policy

(3) It is the policy of the United States to maintain a comprehensive and effective continuity capability composed of Continuity of Operations and Continuity of Government programs in order to ensure the preservation of our form of government under the Constitution and the continuing performance of National Essential Functions under all conditions.

Implementation Actions

(4) Continuity requirements shall be incorporated into daily operations of all executive departments and agencies. As a result of the asymmetric threat environment, adequate warning of potential emergencies that could pose a significant risk to the homeland might not be available, and therefore all continuity planning shall be based on the assumption that no such warning will be received. Emphasis will be placed upon geographic dispersion of leadership, staff, and infrastructure in order to increase survivability and maintain uninterrupted Government Functions. Risk management principles shall be applied to ensure that appropriate operational readiness decisions are based on the probability of an attack or other incident and its consequences.

(5) The following NEFs are the foundation for all continuity programs and capabilities and represent the overarching responsibilities of the Federal Government to lead and sustain the Nation during a crisis, and therefore sustaining the following NEFs shall be the primary focus of the Federal Government leadership during and in the aftermath of an emergency that adversely affects the performance of Government Functions:

(a) Ensuring the continued functioning of our form of government under the Constitution, including the functioning of the three separate branches of government;

(b) Providing leadership visible to the Nation and the world and maintaining the trust and confidence of the American people;

(c) Defending the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and preventing or interdicting attacks against the United States or its people, property, or interests;

(d) Maintaining and fostering effective relationships with foreign nations;

(e) Protecting against threats to the homeland and bringing to justice perpetrators of crimes or attacks against the United States or its people, property, or interests;

(f) Providing rapid and effective response to and recovery from the domestic consequences of an attack or other incident;

(g) Protecting and stabilizing the Nation's economy and ensuring public confidence in its financial systems; and

(h) Providing for critical Federal Government services that address the national health, safety, and welfare needs of the United States.

(6) The President shall lead the activities of the Federal Government for ensuring constitutional government. In order to advise and assist the President in that function, the Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism (APHS/CT) is hereby designated as the National Continuity Coordinator. The National Continuity Coordinator, in coordination with the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs (APNSA), without exercising directive authority, shall coordinate the development and implementation of continuity policy for executive departments and agencies. The Continuity Policy Coordination Committee (CPCC), chaired by a Senior Director from the Homeland Security Council staff, designated by the National Continuity Coordinator, shall be the main day-to-day forum for such policy coordination.

(7) For continuity purposes, each executive department and agency is assigned to a category in accordance with the nature and characteristics of its national security roles and responsibilities in support of the Federal Government's ability to sustain the NEFs. The Secretary of Homeland Security shall serve as the President's lead agent for coordinating overall continuity operations and activities of executive departments and agencies, and in such role shall perform the responsibilities set forth for the Secretary in sections 10 and 16 of this directive.

(8) The National Continuity Coordinator, in consultation with the heads of appropriate executive departments and agencies, will lead the development of a National Continuity Implementation Plan (Plan), which shall include prioritized goals and objectives, a concept of operations, performance metrics by which to measure continuity readiness, procedures for continuity and incident management activities, and clear direction to executive department and agency continuity coordinators, as well as guidance to promote interoperability of Federal Government continuity programs and procedures with State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector owners and operators of critical infrastructure, as appropriate. The Plan shall be submitted to the President for approval not later than 90 days after the date of this directive.

(9) Recognizing that each branch of the Federal Government is responsible for its own continuity programs, an official designated by the Chief of Staff to the President shall ensure that the executive branch's COOP and COG policies in support of ECG efforts are appropriately coordinated with those of the legislative and judicial branches in order to ensure interoperability and allocate national assets efficiently to maintain a functioning Federal Government.

(10) Federal Government COOP, COG, and ECG plans and operations shall be appropriately integrated with the emergency plans and capabilities of State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector owners and operators of critical infrastructure, as appropriate, in order to promote interoperability and to prevent redundancies and conflicting lines of authority. The Secretary of Homeland Security shall coordinate the integration of Federal continuity plans and operations with State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector owners and operators of critical infrastructure, as appropriate, in order to provide for the delivery of essential services during an emergency.

(11) Continuity requirements for the Executive Office of the President (EOP) and executive departments and agencies shall include the following:

(a) The continuation of the performance of PMEFs during any emergency must be for a period up to 30 days or until normal operations can be resumed, and the capability to be fully operational at alternate sites as soon as possible after the occurrence of an emergency, but not later than 12 hours after COOP activation;

(b) Succession orders and pre-planned devolution of authorities that ensure the emergency delegation of authority must be planned and documented in advance in accordance with applicable law;

(c) Vital resources, facilities, and records must be safeguarded, and official access to them must be provided;

(d) Provision must be made for the acquisition of the resources necessary for continuity operations on an emergency basis;

(e) Provision must be made for the availability and redundancy of critical communications capabilities at alternate sites in order to support connectivity between and among key government leadership, internal elements, other executive departments and agencies, critical partners, and the public;

(f) Provision must be made for reconstitution capabilities that allow for recovery from a catastrophic emergency and resumption of normal operations; and

(g) Provision must be made for the identification, training, and preparedness of personnel capable of relocating to alternate facilities to support the continuation of the performance of PMEFs.

(12) In order to provide a coordinated response to escalating threat levels or actual emergencies, the Continuity of Government Readiness Conditions (COGCON) system establishes executive branch continuity program readiness levels, focusing on possible threats to the National Capital Region. The President will determine and issue the COGCON Level. Executive departments and agencies shall comply with the requirements and assigned responsibilities under the COGCON program. During COOP activation, executive departments and agencies shall report their readiness status to the Secretary of Homeland Security or the Secretary's designee.

(13) The Director of the Office of Management and Budget shall:

(a) Conduct an annual assessment of executive department and agency continuity funding requests and performance data that are submitted by executive departments and agencies as part of the annual budget request process, in order to monitor progress in the implementation of the Plan and the execution of continuity budgets;

(b) In coordination with the National Continuity Coordinator, issue annual continuity planning guidance for the development of continuity budget requests; and

(c) Ensure that heads of executive departments and agencies prioritize budget resources for continuity capabilities, consistent with this directive.

(14) The Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy shall:

(a) Define and issue minimum requirements for continuity communications for executive departments and agencies, in consultation with the APHS/CT, the APNSA, the Director of the Office of Management and Budget, and the Chief of Staff to the President;

(b) Establish requirements for, and monitor the development, implementation, and maintenance of, a comprehensive communications architecture to integrate continuity components, in consultation with the APHS/CT, the APNSA, the Director of the Office of Management and Budget, and the Chief of Staff to the President; and

(c) Review quarterly and annual assessments of continuity communications capabilities, as prepared pursuant to section 16(d) of this directive or otherwise, and report the results and recommended remedial actions to the National Continuity Coordinator.

(15) An official designated by the Chief of Staff to the President shall:

(a) Advise the President, the Chief of Staff to the President, the APHS/CT, and the APNSA on COGCON operational execution options; and

(b) Consult with the Secretary of Homeland Security in order to ensure synchronization and integration of continuity activities among the four categories of executive departments and agencies.

(16) The Secretary of Homeland Security shall:

(a) Coordinate the implementation, execution, and assessment of continuity operations and activities;

(b) Develop and promulgate Federal Continuity Directives in order to establish continuity planning requirements for executive departments and agencies;

(c) Conduct biennial assessments of individual department and agency continuity capabilities as prescribed by the Plan and report the results to the President through the APHS/CT;

(d) Conduct quarterly and annual assessments of continuity communications capabilities in consultation with an official designated by the Chief of Staff to the President;

(e) Develop, lead, and conduct a Federal continuity training and exercise program, which shall be incorporated into the National Exercise Program developed pursuant to Homeland Security Presidential Directive-8 of December 17, 2003 ("National Preparedness"), in consultation with an official designated by the Chief of Staff to the President;

(f) Develop and promulgate continuity planning guidance to State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector critical infrastructure owners and operators;

(g) Make available continuity planning and exercise funding, in the form of grants as provided by law, to State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector critical infrastructure owners and operators; and

(h) As Executive Agent of the National Communications System, develop, implement, and maintain a comprehensive continuity communications architecture.

(17) The Director of National Intelligence, in coordination with the Attorney General and the Secretary of Homeland Security, shall produce a biennial assessment of the foreign and domestic threats to the Nation's continuity of government.

(18) The Secretary of Defense, in coordination with the Secretary of Homeland Security, shall provide secure, integrated, Continuity of Government communications to the President, the Vice President, and, at a minimum, Category I executive departments and agencies.

(19) Heads of executive departments and agencies shall execute their respective department or agency COOP plans in response to a localized emergency and shall:

(a) Appoint a senior accountable official, at the Assistant Secretary level, as the Continuity Coordinator for the department or agency;

(b) Identify and submit to the National Continuity Coordinator the list of PMEFs for the department or agency and develop continuity plans in support of the NEFs and the continuation of essential functions under all conditions;

(c) Plan, program, and budget for continuity capabilities consistent with this directive;

(d) Plan, conduct, and support annual tests and training, in consultation with the Secretary of Homeland Security, in order to evaluate program readiness and ensure adequacy and viability of continuity plans and communications systems; and

(e) Support other continuity requirements, as assigned by category, in accordance with the nature and characteristics of its national security roles and responsibilities

General Provisions

(20) This directive shall be implemented in a manner that is consistent with, and facilitates effective implementation of, provisions of the Constitution concerning succession to the Presidency or the exercise of its powers, and the Presidential Succession Act of 1947 (3 U.S.C. 19), with consultation of the Vice President and, as appropriate, others involved. Heads of executive departments and agencies shall ensure that appropriate support is available to the Vice President and others involved as necessary to be prepared at all times to implement those provisions.

(21) This directive:

(a) Shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and the authorities of agencies, or heads of agencies, vested by law, and subject to the availability of appropriations;

(b) Shall not be construed to impair or otherwise affect (i) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budget, administrative, and legislative proposals, or (ii) the authority of the Secretary of Defense over the Department of Defense, including the chain of command for military forces from the President, to the Secretary of Defense, to the commander of military forces, or military command and control procedures; and

(c) Is not intended to, and does not, create any rights or benefits, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by a party against the United States, its agencies, instrumentalities, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

(22) Revocation. Presidential Decision Directive 67 of October 21, 1998 ("Enduring Constitutional Government and Continuity of Government Operations"), including all Annexes thereto, is hereby revoked.

(23) Annex A and the classified Continuity Annexes, attached hereto, are hereby incorporated into and made a part of this directive.

(24) Security. This directive and the information contained herein shall be protected from unauthorized disclosure, provided that, except for Annex A, the Annexes attached to this directive are classified and shall be accorded appropriate handling, consistent with applicable Executive Orders.

GEORGE W. BUSH
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  If George Bush Unilaterally Declared Himself Dictator, Would Congress be Obligated to Impeach? Time for change  Dec-06-07 05:00 PM   #0 
   NO! Haven't you heard? Impeachment is OFF the Table! The Nancy Disaster said so.  The Stranger   Dec-06-07 05:03 PM   #1 
   Wouldn't Congress to be obligated to apologize again?  faygokid   Dec-06-07 06:30 PM   #17 
      Or Defend his "Constitutional" Right to declare himself Sun King?!  katty   Dec-07-07 07:30 PM   #93 
   Depends  zorahopkins   Dec-06-07 05:04 PM   #2 
   Constitutionally? No  MonkeyFunk   Dec-06-07 05:05 PM   #3 
   Why is that?  Time for change   Dec-06-07 06:40 PM   #20 
      No it doesn't say  MonkeyFunk   Dec-06-07 06:57 PM   #24 
         And J.C. says there are not enough votes, but then Schmuckabee prollee still  lonestarnot   Dec-06-07 07:41 PM   #34 
         So, do you think that it's optional for Congress to impeach and remove from office a president who's  Time for change   Dec-06-07 11:39 PM   #41 
         constitutionally  MonkeyFunk   Dec-06-07 11:48 PM   #42 
         Well, they take an oath to defend and support the Constitution  Time for change   Dec-07-07 12:06 AM   #44 
            You can ask me as many ways as you want  MonkeyFunk   Dec-07-07 12:31 AM   #48 
               This Time You Lost Me  ProfessorGAC   Dec-07-07 10:53 AM   #65 
                  My point  MonkeyFunk   Dec-07-07 05:22 PM   #92 
                     Your point seems to be that Congress doesn't have a legal obligation to do the job that  Time for change   Dec-08-07 11:27 AM   #98 
                        I thought I was pretty clear  MonkeyFunk   Dec-08-07 07:39 PM   #102 
         it actually is optional for prosecutors to prosecute  onenote   Dec-07-07 12:06 AM   #43 
            Right, just like it was discretionary whether a president would respond to national disasters and do  Time for change   Dec-07-07 12:11 AM   #45 
               an oath doesn't create a legally binding obligation  onenote   Dec-07-07 08:18 AM   #59 
                  It's a matter of degree  Time for change   Dec-07-07 09:05 AM   #60 
         Impeachment could be a hindrance to Bush continuing to act as president  whistle   Dec-08-07 01:27 PM   #99 
   He already pretty much has and NO Congress has put Impeachment OFF The Table.  Toots   Dec-06-07 05:06 PM   #4 
   That's my take too. n/t  truedelphi   Dec-06-07 06:13 PM   #15 
   I wouldn't want them to rush into anything.  Deep13   Dec-06-07 05:14 PM   #5 
   They would be falling all over each other to attend the coronation  RC   Dec-06-07 05:21 PM   #6 
   When they say Bush is above the law. Does that include the laws saying  Wizard777   Dec-06-07 05:25 PM   #7 
   That's one of my greatest worries  Time for change   Dec-07-07 10:10 AM   #62 
   I don't give a crap  PetrusMonsFormicarum   Dec-06-07 05:27 PM   # 
   In what fucking universe do YOU reside in! I want to live there!!!  TankLV   Dec-07-07 01:10 AM   #51 
   Well researched post ....  sjdnb   Dec-07-07 01:47 AM   #52 
      Thank you -- I have been very disappointed with theire failure to pursue this  Time for change   Dec-07-07 03:21 PM   #89 
   I don't give a crap  PetrusMonsFormicarum   Dec-06-07 05:27 PM   #8 
   I absolutely agree.  tomg   Dec-08-07 08:49 AM   #95 
   I especially like how some in Congress say "No one is above the law"  Solly Mack   Dec-06-07 05:27 PM   #9 
   We still won't have the votes.  tekisui   Dec-06-07 05:34 PM   #10 
   If Congress began impeachment hearings the votes would probably materialize  Time for change   Dec-06-07 06:37 PM   #19 
      Oh, I totally agree.  tekisui   Dec-06-07 06:49 PM   #21 
      Ok, I get it  Time for change   Dec-06-07 06:58 PM   #25 
      Which 18 Republicans  MonkeyFunk   Dec-06-07 07:09 PM   #27 
         After a serious and thorough investigation?  tekisui   Dec-06-07 07:15 PM   #30 
         Then let's have a serious and thorough  MonkeyFunk   Dec-06-07 07:19 PM   #32 
            They've had almost a year so far to get their investigations going  Time for change   Dec-07-07 01:41 PM   #80 
            so, you're advocating allowing a dictator in the US through inaction?  Lerkfish   Dec-07-07 08:16 PM   #94 
               I'm advocating nothing here  MonkeyFunk   Dec-08-07 07:41 PM   #103 
         Any Republican who cares more about getting re-elect than s/he does about George W. Bush  Time for change   Dec-07-07 07:45 AM   #56 
         "which 18 Rebublicans will vote to convict?"  LiberalLovinLug   Dec-07-07 01:10 PM   #76 
      Somehow I don't think enough Repubs would peel away to convict in the US Senate.  Selatius   Dec-06-07 07:05 PM   #26 
         Once impeachment hearings begin, Americans will become more familiar with Bush administration crimes  Time for change   Dec-07-07 07:53 AM   #57 
   i dont believe any past president used signing statements like this.  bullimiami   Dec-06-07 05:45 PM   #11 
   They didn't  Time for change   Dec-07-07 11:52 AM   #70 
   It depends.  MADem   Dec-06-07 05:48 PM   #12 
   If he did all that he wouldn't be George W. Bush, would he?  Time for change   Dec-07-07 12:29 PM   #71 
   Nancy would lecture us that we shouldn't get distracted and...  Atman   Dec-06-07 05:48 PM   #13 
   That was a great mistake on her part  Time for change   Dec-07-07 04:15 PM   #90 
   good question, actually  Red Zelda   Dec-06-07 05:55 PM   #14 
   If he declared himself and became a dicator no other of our laws would apply.  Bitwit1234   Dec-06-07 06:24 PM   #16 
   That's my point  Time for change   Dec-06-07 07:16 PM   #31 
   Not unless their powder miraculously dries to their satisfaction.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Dec-06-07 06:35 PM   #18 
   Yes, unless his name was Chavez and the people voted for it  The Straight Story   Dec-06-07 06:50 PM   #22 
   I don't see the relevance  Time for change   Dec-06-07 06:56 PM   #23 
   And like so many lemmings, the rest just go along under the table with their ears, nose, eyes  lonestarnot   Dec-06-07 07:11 PM   #28 
   Congress has no Constitutional duty to impeach--it's completely permissive...nt  Romulox   Dec-06-07 07:15 PM   #29 
   No duty to impeach?  Time for change   Dec-07-07 01:07 PM   #75 
      The Constitution does not have any requirement that they impeach.  Romulox   Dec-07-07 02:57 PM   #88 
   I wish we lived in a country where this post was obviously ridiculous  drslammy   Dec-06-07 07:37 PM   #33 
   Well welcome to the watering hole!  lonestarnot   Dec-06-07 07:42 PM   #35 
   The question was meant to be rhetorical  Time for change   Dec-06-07 10:27 PM   #38 
   They might be too busy, or there might not be enough votes  undeterred   Dec-06-07 07:46 PM   #36 
   or it might be that the signing statement story  hfojvt   Dec-07-07 04:05 AM   #54 
      That is doubtlessly a huge part of it  Time for change   Dec-07-07 02:41 PM   #86 
   he'll be impeached from a rooftop then  Neo   Dec-06-07 07:47 PM   #37 
   I don't believe the constitution with its checks and balances  mmonk   Dec-06-07 10:34 PM   #39 
   Excellent point  Time for change   Dec-07-07 09:11 AM   #61 
   the end is near pdd51  biermeister   Dec-06-07 11:10 PM   #40 
   They would initiate 16 investigations and send out 200 worthless subpoenas. nm  rhett o rick   Dec-07-07 12:26 AM   #46 
   But he would never declare himself a dictator. He might ask Congress to extend his term temporarily  rhett o rick   Dec-07-07 12:29 AM   #47 
   No he won't  MonkeyFunk   Dec-07-07 12:33 AM   #49 
      More important, the Neocons have given up on him. They are hot for Big Gulie.  rhett o rick   Dec-07-07 10:43 AM   #63 
   No, silly! They'd approve it in a "voice vote", or in Obama's case, vote "present" so as not to  TankLV   Dec-07-07 01:06 AM   #50 
   This discussion points out the tacit fact that the difference  bleever   Dec-07-07 01:54 AM   #53 
   Excellent point  Time for change   Dec-07-07 07:43 AM   #55 
   What makes you think there would be a Congress? nt  Vinca   Dec-07-07 07:59 AM   #58 
   They'd say it would be too divisive.  Marr   Dec-07-07 10:45 AM   #64 
   dictatorship is definitely not far from us n/t  f the letter   Dec-07-07 11:05 AM   #66 
   Obviously, only a few take the Constitution seriously  subliminable   Dec-07-07 11:10 AM   #67 
   I agree that Congress will never impeach Bush.... UNLESS  Time for change   Dec-07-07 11:22 AM   #68 
      What's to make Congress respond to the people  subliminable   Dec-07-07 11:33 AM   #69 
         They called me yesterday while I was writing this post  Time for change   Dec-07-07 02:49 PM   #87 
   Not only would congress be obliged  DadOf2LittleAngels   Dec-07-07 12:33 PM   #72 
   He would have gotten rid of congress waaaaay before that. nt  Javaman   Dec-07-07 12:40 PM   #73 
   The Roman Empire continued to have a Senate for hundreds of years after the Republic became an  Time for change   Dec-07-07 01:05 PM   #74 
      True. Moron* does have his own Praetorian guard with blackwater. nt  Javaman   Dec-07-07 02:19 PM   #85 
   If He Declared Martial Law, Congress couldn't Impeach  Justanothercoverup   Dec-07-07 01:29 PM   #77 
   I agree with all of that  Time for change   Dec-07-07 01:40 PM   #79 
   Nancy would talk them out of it.  txaslftist   Dec-07-07 01:31 PM   #78 
   No, "We" dont have the votes. Translation- DLC traitors would vote to protect Bush, as usual.  Dr Fate   Dec-07-07 01:44 PM   #81 
   Yes. Impeachment off the tables because of the 2008 election. If no election, yes impeachment.  McCamy Taylor   Dec-07-07 01:44 PM   #82 
   What do you mean, "If?"  rocknation   Dec-07-07 01:47 PM   #83 
   I mean, what IF he comes out and actually SAYS what is actually the case  Time for change   Dec-07-07 02:12 PM   #84 
   I wish he would declare it  windoe   Dec-07-07 04:28 PM   #91 
   executive privelage  raging_moderate   Dec-08-07 09:04 AM   #96 
      Maybe not completely, but to a large extent they do  Time for change   Dec-08-07 11:23 AM   #97 
   bush would not leave, even if the Senate voted to remove. I'm sure his  alfredo   Dec-08-07 01:35 PM   #100 
   they'd want to keep the powder dry  JVS   Dec-08-07 07:37 PM   #101 
 

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