magellan
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Mon Nov-26-07 11:30 AM
Response to Reply #51 |
| 55. I heard that too, it's infuriating |
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But it's something I've been saying for a while, that we're being taken for granted and just shouldn't play their game. Too bad a lot of Dems don't hear, won't listen, or have reason to want a split (can you say Blue Dog? I knew you could).
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| -Guam to have more say in Democratic Primary than Florida -- |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:26 AM |
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Stop fucking with the primary dates, and problem solved. |
Beelzebud |
Nov-26-07 10:28 AM |
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it doesn't matter how it happened -- NO rank and file Floridian had a say in that |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:30 AM |
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Then the Democratic party in Flordia needs to get it's head out of it's ass. |
Beelzebud |
Nov-26-07 10:31 AM |
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time for rank and file Florida Dems to demand a change -- and for now we BETTER get |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:32 AM |
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Now that I agree on! Get some new leadership in the FL Democratic party. |
Beelzebud |
Nov-26-07 10:34 AM |
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if this isn't a clarion call, i don't know what is -- but, as it stands, it's the FL Dem party |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:38 AM |
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we need to get rid of the Dem at the top of the heap..but too many are conned by her! |
flyarm |
Nov-26-07 10:39 AM |
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so what do we do? WHERE ARE THE ALTERNATIVES? i've asked this many times before here... |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:40 AM |
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get to DEC meetings..get others to go with you..make up groups and explain what is going on |
flyarm |
Nov-26-07 11:27 AM |
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so, what's your group? how do i get involved? |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 11:35 AM |
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Here's what I found from a simple search |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 01:24 PM |
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sorry i do not give out info on my group on a public message board..go through |
flyarm |
Nov-26-07 03:29 PM |
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Was gonna suggest following the $$ and finding Republicans behind it |
havocmom |
Nov-26-07 10:55 AM |
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My understanding is the Repub majority in the FL legistlature did this |
magellan |
Nov-26-07 10:45 AM |
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yeah -- and it's not just what we see on the surface. the soul of democracy is being CRUSHED. |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:45 AM |
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yeah the repigs started this but the dems voted for it!... |
flyarm |
Nov-26-07 11:37 AM |
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It does matter. |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 10:38 AM |
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it's going to matter to anyone who doesn't Hillary -- |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:39 AM |
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There have already been lawsuits. |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 10:40 AM |
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yes we know - and it's only the start. |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:43 AM |
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the law up to and including the supreme court supports the DNC postition!!..eom |
flyarm |
Nov-26-07 01:05 PM |
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If the Dems were as tough with the Repubs as they are with their own.... |
magellan |
Nov-26-07 10:29 AM |
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you can bet your sweet bippy the repukes will be seating florida delegates |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:32 AM |
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5 Repuke primaries are having their delegates cut in half |
tekisui |
Nov-26-07 10:32 AM |
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the parties aren't concerned with democracy -- they've already done the math |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:33 AM |
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This is Florida's fault. |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 10:37 AM |
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look state dems voted for this..don't blame it on anyone but who is responsible.. |
flyarm |
Nov-26-07 10:43 AM |
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and... we don't see Michigan losing delegates now do we? |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:46 AM |
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Michigan is losing delegates too. |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 11:03 AM |
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not according to the Democratic National Convention website |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 11:05 AM |
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It may not be up to date |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 11:10 AM |
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their primary is set before Florida's -- you'd think they'd be "punished" too |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 11:21 AM |
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That's the plan. |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 11:25 AM |
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this was all planned to benefit hillary ..this has been even cited |
flyarm |
Nov-26-07 11:41 AM |
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if you read it then it must be true! |
foo_bar |
Nov-26-07 12:31 PM |
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It's Florida's fault |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 10:36 AM |
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oh -- the Repukes are "cutting" delegates BY HALF -- and that somehow makes this even? |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:42 AM |
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I don't think it makes it even or right. |
tekisui |
Nov-26-07 10:49 AM |
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i think that misses the point -- this is supposed to be a democracy |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:56 AM |
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Maybe you don't realize that primaries select delegates that nominate the nominee |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 10:56 AM |
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so the Dems having ZERO and the Repukes having HALF -- b/c of all the difficult math |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:59 AM |
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That's the rules. |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 11:04 AM |
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my statement is about equality -- it's clearly not equitible. |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 11:07 AM |
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Everybody is under the same rules |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 11:10 AM |
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This is a good thing. |
Dr.Phool |
Nov-26-07 10:43 AM |
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so, a whole state falling into permanent apathy is a good thing -- why even bother with DU? |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:44 AM |
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oh believe me ..it is not apathy by people in the party..it is deliberate... |
flyarm |
Nov-26-07 10:48 AM |
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apathy on the part of The People (anyone remember them?) -- why should anyone |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:49 AM |
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we need the people to show up at DEC meetings and we need the people |
flyarm |
Nov-26-07 11:04 AM |
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as someone once involved in FL politics, do you know anyone doing this? |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 11:09 AM |
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yeah ..me!! and i can name a few others..look them up.. |
flyarm |
Nov-26-07 03:31 PM |
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The FDP has prety much forced apathy on the state. |
Dr.Phool |
Nov-26-07 10:50 AM |
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so, what's being done about it? anyone know? |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 11:01 AM |
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A couple of people have challenged them. |
Dr.Phool |
Nov-26-07 11:43 AM |
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wow -- two people TRIED to do something and you can't distance yourself quick and far enough. |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 11:48 AM |
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You obviously don't know me. |
Dr.Phool |
Nov-26-07 11:57 AM |
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as someone who has been involved at such high levels in the past, you would know |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 12:12 PM |
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Hi Doc Phool..i was a delegate in 2004..good thing i ran last time!! |
flyarm |
Nov-26-07 10:46 AM |
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this is why EVERYONE needs to care about this! it makes the whole election a SHAM. |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:48 AM |
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we have been caring about this ..many of us floridians have been writing and exposing it .. |
flyarm |
Nov-26-07 10:50 AM |
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well, ride that Zeitgeist for all it's worth mista' -- this news isn't going away |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:53 AM |
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Yep, they don't have to listen to us. |
magellan |
Nov-26-07 11:13 AM |
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it was said on KO that "the left has no where to go" |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 11:16 AM |
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I heard that too, it's infuriating |
magellan |
Nov-26-07 11:30 AM |
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Exactly |
magellan |
Nov-26-07 10:48 AM |
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talk about party "purity" -- how about election "purity" -- an election where EVERY state counts! |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:50 AM |
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look dem fla state legislators knew exactly what was going to happen..they were warned about doing |
flyarm |
Nov-26-07 10:56 AM |
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i agree with your DLC assessment -- what i'm saying is this is a cancer on the whole of democracy |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:58 AM |
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absolutely!!!...eom |
flyarm |
Nov-26-07 11:01 AM |
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Florida agreed to follow the schedule and later reneged. |
Alexander |
Nov-26-07 11:36 AM |
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i didn't vote for the primary change and neither did any rank and file FL DEM. |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 11:44 AM |
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This is a bullshit response. |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 01:21 PM |
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Too bad they aren't so anal about obeying the US Constitution n/t |
magellan |
Nov-26-07 01:31 PM |
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Who? |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 01:33 PM |
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The National Party |
magellan |
Nov-26-07 01:39 PM |
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*FL voters* didn't renege on anything |
magellan |
Nov-26-07 11:48 AM |
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actually i don't know any dems in fla who agreed to this but the rank and file dlc dems! |
flyarm |
Nov-26-07 12:59 PM |
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Good for Guam.....Florida did it on purpose to be big shots...screwed up. |
madfloridian |
Nov-26-07 11:38 AM |
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that's all fine and good. good for you for being a prolific writer -- unfortunately, |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 11:43 AM |
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You don't want truth....you want to sound off...sound and fury. |
madfloridian |
Nov-26-07 11:47 AM |
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you have nothing. you have no positive input. you just want to be mad. |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 11:49 AM |
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There is nothing positive about what Florida did. |
madfloridian |
Nov-26-07 11:54 AM |
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if "me first" is a serious disease, what do you call the disenfranchisement of whole states? |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 11:57 AM |
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Actually, you are describing yourself |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 01:18 PM |
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Democrazy? |
Dr.Phool |
Nov-26-07 11:47 AM |
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thank you Madfloridian... |
flyarm |
Nov-26-07 01:02 PM |
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