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Mon Nov-26-07 10:39 AM
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| 14. we need to get rid of the Dem at the top of the heap..but too many are conned by her! |
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this was done to appease Rahmn the DLC and Hillary anyone who doesn't get this yet ..isn't paying attention!!
Our FDP is lead by a woman who has taken $35,000 bucks from a big repiglican lobbiest..while on salary from the dem party!
she won't allow decention...and has blackballed anyone who has come forward to expose her!
the dem party is fla is totally infiltrated!
a disgusted dem from Fl.
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| -Guam to have more say in Democratic Primary than Florida -- |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:26 AM |
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Stop fucking with the primary dates, and problem solved. |
Beelzebud |
Nov-26-07 10:28 AM |
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it doesn't matter how it happened -- NO rank and file Floridian had a say in that |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:30 AM |
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Then the Democratic party in Flordia needs to get it's head out of it's ass. |
Beelzebud |
Nov-26-07 10:31 AM |
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time for rank and file Florida Dems to demand a change -- and for now we BETTER get |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:32 AM |
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Now that I agree on! Get some new leadership in the FL Democratic party. |
Beelzebud |
Nov-26-07 10:34 AM |
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if this isn't a clarion call, i don't know what is -- but, as it stands, it's the FL Dem party |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:38 AM |
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we need to get rid of the Dem at the top of the heap..but too many are conned by her! |
flyarm |
Nov-26-07 10:39 AM |
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so what do we do? WHERE ARE THE ALTERNATIVES? i've asked this many times before here... |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:40 AM |
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get to DEC meetings..get others to go with you..make up groups and explain what is going on |
flyarm |
Nov-26-07 11:27 AM |
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so, what's your group? how do i get involved? |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 11:35 AM |
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Here's what I found from a simple search |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 01:24 PM |
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sorry i do not give out info on my group on a public message board..go through |
flyarm |
Nov-26-07 03:29 PM |
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Was gonna suggest following the $$ and finding Republicans behind it |
havocmom |
Nov-26-07 10:55 AM |
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My understanding is the Repub majority in the FL legistlature did this |
magellan |
Nov-26-07 10:45 AM |
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yeah -- and it's not just what we see on the surface. the soul of democracy is being CRUSHED. |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:45 AM |
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yeah the repigs started this but the dems voted for it!... |
flyarm |
Nov-26-07 11:37 AM |
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It does matter. |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 10:38 AM |
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it's going to matter to anyone who doesn't Hillary -- |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:39 AM |
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There have already been lawsuits. |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 10:40 AM |
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yes we know - and it's only the start. |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:43 AM |
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the law up to and including the supreme court supports the DNC postition!!..eom |
flyarm |
Nov-26-07 01:05 PM |
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If the Dems were as tough with the Repubs as they are with their own.... |
magellan |
Nov-26-07 10:29 AM |
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you can bet your sweet bippy the repukes will be seating florida delegates |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:32 AM |
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5 Repuke primaries are having their delegates cut in half |
tekisui |
Nov-26-07 10:32 AM |
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the parties aren't concerned with democracy -- they've already done the math |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:33 AM |
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This is Florida's fault. |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 10:37 AM |
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look state dems voted for this..don't blame it on anyone but who is responsible.. |
flyarm |
Nov-26-07 10:43 AM |
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and... we don't see Michigan losing delegates now do we? |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:46 AM |
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Michigan is losing delegates too. |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 11:03 AM |
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not according to the Democratic National Convention website |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 11:05 AM |
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It may not be up to date |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 11:10 AM |
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their primary is set before Florida's -- you'd think they'd be "punished" too |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 11:21 AM |
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That's the plan. |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 11:25 AM |
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this was all planned to benefit hillary ..this has been even cited |
flyarm |
Nov-26-07 11:41 AM |
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if you read it then it must be true! |
foo_bar |
Nov-26-07 12:31 PM |
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It's Florida's fault |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 10:36 AM |
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oh -- the Repukes are "cutting" delegates BY HALF -- and that somehow makes this even? |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:42 AM |
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I don't think it makes it even or right. |
tekisui |
Nov-26-07 10:49 AM |
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i think that misses the point -- this is supposed to be a democracy |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:56 AM |
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Maybe you don't realize that primaries select delegates that nominate the nominee |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 10:56 AM |
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so the Dems having ZERO and the Repukes having HALF -- b/c of all the difficult math |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:59 AM |
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That's the rules. |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 11:04 AM |
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my statement is about equality -- it's clearly not equitible. |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 11:07 AM |
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Everybody is under the same rules |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 11:10 AM |
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This is a good thing. |
Dr.Phool |
Nov-26-07 10:43 AM |
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so, a whole state falling into permanent apathy is a good thing -- why even bother with DU? |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:44 AM |
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oh believe me ..it is not apathy by people in the party..it is deliberate... |
flyarm |
Nov-26-07 10:48 AM |
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apathy on the part of The People (anyone remember them?) -- why should anyone |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:49 AM |
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we need the people to show up at DEC meetings and we need the people |
flyarm |
Nov-26-07 11:04 AM |
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as someone once involved in FL politics, do you know anyone doing this? |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 11:09 AM |
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yeah ..me!! and i can name a few others..look them up.. |
flyarm |
Nov-26-07 03:31 PM |
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The FDP has prety much forced apathy on the state. |
Dr.Phool |
Nov-26-07 10:50 AM |
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so, what's being done about it? anyone know? |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 11:01 AM |
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A couple of people have challenged them. |
Dr.Phool |
Nov-26-07 11:43 AM |
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wow -- two people TRIED to do something and you can't distance yourself quick and far enough. |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 11:48 AM |
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You obviously don't know me. |
Dr.Phool |
Nov-26-07 11:57 AM |
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as someone who has been involved at such high levels in the past, you would know |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 12:12 PM |
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Hi Doc Phool..i was a delegate in 2004..good thing i ran last time!! |
flyarm |
Nov-26-07 10:46 AM |
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this is why EVERYONE needs to care about this! it makes the whole election a SHAM. |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:48 AM |
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we have been caring about this ..many of us floridians have been writing and exposing it .. |
flyarm |
Nov-26-07 10:50 AM |
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well, ride that Zeitgeist for all it's worth mista' -- this news isn't going away |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:53 AM |
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Yep, they don't have to listen to us. |
magellan |
Nov-26-07 11:13 AM |
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it was said on KO that "the left has no where to go" |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 11:16 AM |
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I heard that too, it's infuriating |
magellan |
Nov-26-07 11:30 AM |
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Exactly |
magellan |
Nov-26-07 10:48 AM |
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talk about party "purity" -- how about election "purity" -- an election where EVERY state counts! |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:50 AM |
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look dem fla state legislators knew exactly what was going to happen..they were warned about doing |
flyarm |
Nov-26-07 10:56 AM |
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i agree with your DLC assessment -- what i'm saying is this is a cancer on the whole of democracy |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 10:58 AM |
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absolutely!!!...eom |
flyarm |
Nov-26-07 11:01 AM |
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Florida agreed to follow the schedule and later reneged. |
Alexander |
Nov-26-07 11:36 AM |
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i didn't vote for the primary change and neither did any rank and file FL DEM. |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 11:44 AM |
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This is a bullshit response. |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 01:21 PM |
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Too bad they aren't so anal about obeying the US Constitution n/t |
magellan |
Nov-26-07 01:31 PM |
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Who? |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 01:33 PM |
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The National Party |
magellan |
Nov-26-07 01:39 PM |
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*FL voters* didn't renege on anything |
magellan |
Nov-26-07 11:48 AM |
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actually i don't know any dems in fla who agreed to this but the rank and file dlc dems! |
flyarm |
Nov-26-07 12:59 PM |
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Good for Guam.....Florida did it on purpose to be big shots...screwed up. |
madfloridian |
Nov-26-07 11:38 AM |
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that's all fine and good. good for you for being a prolific writer -- unfortunately, |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 11:43 AM |
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You don't want truth....you want to sound off...sound and fury. |
madfloridian |
Nov-26-07 11:47 AM |
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you have nothing. you have no positive input. you just want to be mad. |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 11:49 AM |
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There is nothing positive about what Florida did. |
madfloridian |
Nov-26-07 11:54 AM |
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if "me first" is a serious disease, what do you call the disenfranchisement of whole states? |
nashville_brook |
Nov-26-07 11:57 AM |
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Actually, you are describing yourself |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 01:18 PM |
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Democrazy? |
Dr.Phool |
Nov-26-07 11:47 AM |
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thank you Madfloridian... |
flyarm |
Nov-26-07 01:02 PM |
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