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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 11:08 AM
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24. I did, too. But it was just a little over the top in the frank way
it confirmed my worst fears about the Clinton campaign. When was the last time Clinton conceded anything? They don't do concession, do they?

Last week, I ran across a story that said the military in Venezuela would revolt if the referendum to amend the constitution passed on 12/2. The sourcing looked good. It was a retired high ranking officer who seemed credible enough and who told stories about a breakdown in discipline and anti-Chavez leaflets being distributed surreptitiously at the biggest base. There were also an analyst, a Venezuela expert. The third source was a Chavez "critic". Okay.

When you track down these three guys, they are all right wingnuts. The retired officer was part of the 2002 coup and now lives in Miami. If you search for the writings of the "analyst", they only come up on some pretty extreme rw sites. The Chavez "critic" has called for armed insurrection and starred in a Fox News hit piece.

These people are not objective "observers." But, there's no way to know unless you push beyond their credentials a bit. Who has time to do that?

We can't just read the news any more. We have to decode it.
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  -Clinton stands behind centrist stances Tierra_y_Libertad  Nov-23-07 09:47 AM   #0 
  - she's correct.  maddiejoan   Nov-23-07 09:54 AM   #1 
  - Yeah, she's a regular FDR.  tom_paine   Nov-23-07 09:58 AM   #4 
     - You mean FDR would support these "Free Trade" agreements  FreakinDJ   Nov-23-07 10:03 AM   #8 
     - FDR didn't campaign with the New Deal --  maddiejoan   Nov-23-07 10:11 AM   #9 
  - So fearful. So frightened of The Bushie Mighty Wurlitzer.  tom_paine   Nov-23-07 09:54 AM   #2 
  - What does centrist  Orwellian_Ghost   Nov-23-07 09:57 AM   #3 
  - afraid of the republicans? Have you forgotten the 90's?  Evergreen Emerald   Nov-23-07 09:59 AM   #5 
  - Ripped apart by the republicans?  niceypoo   Nov-23-07 10:01 AM   #6 
  - You mean "Business as Usual"  FreakinDJ   Nov-23-07 10:02 AM   #7 
  - There's something wrong with this story.  sfexpat2000   Nov-23-07 10:13 AM   #10 
  - That is definitely possible. So much info, so little brain space in my head.  tom_paine   Nov-23-07 10:28 AM   #14 
     - "True lies"  sfexpat2000   Nov-23-07 10:32 AM   #16 
        - Well, we know it is a Bushie Tactic. It's what they did to Dan Rather.  tom_paine   Nov-23-07 10:36 AM   #17 
           - This seems to be exactly what they did to Rather  sfexpat2000   Nov-23-07 10:51 AM   #20 
  - Fuck her..............  BlueJac   Nov-23-07 10:15 AM   #11 
  - T_y_L, you just noticed this?  tom_paine   Nov-23-07 10:16 AM   #12 
  - This is how I believe Clinton thinks but the writing doesn't sound like  sfexpat2000   Nov-23-07 10:21 AM   #13 
     - I agree, see Post #14.  tom_paine   Nov-23-07 10:29 AM   #15 
        - I busted the NYT, LAT, WaHo and Miami Herald last week.  sfexpat2000   Nov-23-07 10:40 AM   #18 
           - The more I think about it, the more you are correct. Off to Google who owns UPI these days...  tom_paine   Nov-23-07 10:57 AM   #21 
              - I did, too. But it was just a little over the top in the frank way  sfexpat2000   Nov-23-07 11:08 AM   #24 
                 - Behind the Televised Curtain of Lies of Imperial Amerika.  tom_paine   Nov-23-07 11:15 AM   #25 
  - calling these positions left or center is purest, dishonest spin  JackRiddler   Nov-23-07 10:42 AM   #19 
  - If you believe the right has valid talking points,  mmonk   Nov-23-07 10:59 AM   #22 
  - Fuck. Her.  QuestionAll   Nov-23-07 11:05 AM   #23 
  - I'll vote for her in your place.  emilyg   Nov-23-07 12:59 PM   #26 
  - and i'll vote for someone else in your place.  QuestionAll   Nov-23-07 01:12 PM   #31 
  - classy.  Skip Intro   Nov-23-07 01:02 PM   #28 
  - Pleez don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel. nm  rhett o rick   Nov-23-07 01:09 PM   #29 
  - We can only hope that she's as compulsive a liar as Bush  MetaTrope   Nov-23-07 01:01 PM   #27 
  - You are definitely an optomist. nm  rhett o rick   Nov-23-07 01:10 PM   #30 
  - Does a centralist want to end the war immediately? Repeal the Patriot Act  rhett o rick   Nov-23-07 01:21 PM   #32 
  - AKA he stands by Korporatist stances!  calipendence   Nov-24-07 06:14 AM   #33 
  - If Hillary isn't going to go with the far left views  creeksneakers2   Nov-24-07 07:32 AM   #34 

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