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Response to Reply #69
71. Not at all
Edited on Wed Nov-21-07 12:44 PM by Bleachers7
Those are limited when considering the breadth of potential gun rights issues. The platform names two very specific agenda items. There's nothing about rights, qualified ownership, registration, safety, etc. That's not a coincidence.
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  -It should be clear that gun control is a big fat loser for dems cali  Nov-21-07 09:23 AM   #0 
  - don't worry, the supreme court will put a gun under everyone's pillow.  spanone   Nov-21-07 09:25 AM   #1 
  - I agree...  Virginia Dare   Nov-21-07 09:50 AM   #7 
  - Exactly. No way did this far-RW court take this case to uphold gun control --  stranger81   Nov-21-07 12:02 PM   #54 
     - That makes as much sense as...  krispos42   Nov-21-07 02:45 PM   #118 
     - Not really: restrictions on both full-autos and CCW permits are probably constitutional (nt)  SteveM   Nov-21-07 04:41 PM   #137 
     - There are plenty of right-wing gun control proponents  dmesg   Nov-21-07 10:25 PM   #189 
     - and you make that sound like a bad thing  LibertarianAtheist   Nov-22-07 09:52 PM   #231 
     - it is a bad thing.  spanone   Nov-23-07 08:03 AM   #234 
        - care to explain your point further?  LibertarianAtheist   Nov-23-07 05:32 PM   #240 
           - One point I would make - not towards prevention of ownership  derby378   Nov-23-07 05:48 PM   #241 
     - Ironically, if SCOTUS rules against DC, then it will end up helping us  Aya Reiko   Nov-23-07 02:23 PM   #236 
  - How is rescinding a ban on guns in the home putting a gun "under everyone's pillow"?  Alexander   Nov-21-07 02:02 PM   #100 
  - The 2nd Amendment does not require you to have one.  madeline_con   Nov-21-07 11:16 PM   #200 
  - Don't know how much help it will be but my vote in the primary steers us away from it  RGBolen   Nov-21-07 09:25 AM   #2 
  - that is for sure. but majority of dems never promoted that. was NRA  seabeyond   Nov-21-07 09:26 AM   #3 
  - That's true to an extent, but  NeedleCast   Nov-21-07 09:32 AM   #4 
  - yes... i cringe when he does that knowing he will never be elected, yet  seabeyond   Nov-21-07 10:52 AM   #28 
  - It was the slipperly slope argument  krispos42   Nov-21-07 02:48 PM   #119 
  - I agree 100%.  Wiregrass Willie   Nov-21-07 09:37 AM   #5 
  - It doesn't matter whether the Dems make it an issue or not..  Virginia Dare   Nov-21-07 09:49 AM   #6 
  - Not for this Democrat  frazzled   Nov-21-07 10:10 AM   #8 
  - While I sympathize with your plight, seeing as you're from Chicago...  derby378   Nov-21-07 10:18 AM   #12 
  - Local laws will never be effective when you can get a cheap gun next door ...  frazzled   Nov-21-07 10:24 AM   #15 
  - Gun ownership is also heavily restricted nationwide in Mexico, Brazil and Russia.  BadgerLaw2010   Nov-21-07 10:28 AM   #17 
  - Bullshit. It does work..  Xenotime   Nov-21-07 12:39 PM   #66 
     - And that proves what, exactly?  EstimatedProphet   Nov-21-07 01:34 PM   #92 
     - And the US has free gun ownership, and much less violence than those restricted countries above.  BadgerLaw2010   Nov-21-07 02:15 PM   #108 
     - yes,  FORREST GRUMP   Nov-21-07 06:33 PM   #157 
     - Guns didn't murder them. People did.  madeline_con   Nov-21-07 11:19 PM   #201 
  - Maybe it would be easier if you would stop BEING on the wrong side of the issue.  karlrschneider   Nov-21-07 10:33 AM   #19 
  - Nothing will ever convince me I am wrong on this issue  frazzled   Nov-21-07 10:54 AM   #29 
     - perfect example of the subject at hand  Tejas   Nov-21-07 11:34 AM   #42 
     - Nothing will convince you including facts  bamalib   Nov-21-07 11:42 AM   #47 
     - Really?  EstimatedProphet   Nov-21-07 01:37 PM   #95 
     - Fine, you might also consider that very many Democrats embrace their 2nd Amendment rights  karlrschneider   Nov-21-07 03:38 PM   #131 
     - "convincing argument"? You said "Nothing will ever convince me I am wrong."  SteveM   Nov-21-07 04:58 PM   #139 
     - You spoke the same words I feel.  mvccd1000   Nov-21-07 10:53 PM   #197 
     - So, regulating firearm ownership will hinder  madeline_con   Nov-21-07 11:24 PM   #202 
     - Outlaw all motor vehicles. It will be worth it if it saves just one  2rth2pwr   Nov-24-07 03:40 PM   #246 
  - Through the mail?  WGS   Nov-21-07 11:46 AM   #48 
  - The mail is full of guns.  Tejas   Nov-21-07 11:52 AM   #49 
  - Yes, but the poster made it sound like someone could just go online  Ghost in the Machine   Nov-21-07 07:47 PM   #169 
  - Licensed collectors can get curio and relic firearms through the mail too  slackmaster   Nov-21-07 01:16 PM   #80 
     - gotta love those Nagants!  Tejas   Nov-21-07 01:25 PM   #87 
        - And Mausers, Lee-Enfields, Swiss K-31s, M1 Garands...  slackmaster   Nov-21-07 01:27 PM   #89 
           - uncle! uncle!!!  Tejas   Nov-21-07 02:01 PM   #99 
  - Mail-order guns for the general public ended in 1968 with the Gun Control Act  slackmaster   Nov-21-07 01:15 PM   #79 
  - actually...  Tejas   Nov-21-07 01:23 PM   #85 
     - True, but the FFL has responsibility over the gun while in posession  EstimatedProphet   Nov-21-07 01:40 PM   #97 
  - I call bullshit.  beevul   Nov-21-07 10:22 PM   #188 
  - You mean the neighboring jurisdictions with LOWER CRIME RATES?  dmesg   Nov-21-07 10:32 PM   #192 
  - Chicago has the toughest gun laws in the nation after DC. Lot of good it does.  BadgerLaw2010   Nov-21-07 10:25 AM   #16 
  - Look, I'm not saying that communities shouldn't  cali   Nov-21-07 10:19 AM   #13 
  - It really supports your argument  michreject   Nov-21-07 11:29 AM   #38 
  - Keep an open mind, somebody has to.  Tejas   Nov-21-07 11:39 AM   #43 
  - Judging from D.C.'s crime data, crims there are already "armed to the teeth."  SteveM   Nov-21-07 04:54 PM   #138 
  - Chicago already bans all handguns.  Nabeshin   Nov-21-07 06:53 PM   #161 
     - Ending the Drug War isn't the answer either  Aya Reiko   Nov-23-07 02:31 PM   #237 
  - Is there any major fire-arm legislation planned  LanternWaste   Nov-21-07 10:12 AM   #9 
  - yes, the motherlode  Tejas   Nov-21-07 11:12 AM   #34 
  - Ha Ha this Congress is worthless  wuushew   Nov-21-07 11:17 AM   #35 
  - Never underestimate a fool.  Tejas   Nov-21-07 12:00 PM   #52 
  - HR1022 would cost me personally thousands of dollars  slackmaster   Nov-21-07 01:19 PM   #82 
  - Also HR1167 (by Cong. McCarthy, D-NY): the "No fly, no buy" bill...  SteveM   Nov-21-07 05:12 PM   #142 
  - In your dreams, Cali! Americans everywhere know their only hope  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Nov-21-07 10:15 AM   #10 
  - what the fuck are you taliking about?  cali   Nov-21-07 10:21 AM   #14 
  - How can you be progressive and hunt? They don't go together.  Xenotime   Nov-21-07 12:42 PM   #70 
  - Why not?  slackmaster   Nov-21-07 01:20 PM   #83 
  - How can you be an environmentalist and not be concerned about animal overpopulation?  EstimatedProphet   Nov-21-07 01:42 PM   #98 
  - I don't know where you live, but yes where I live  cali   Nov-21-07 02:02 PM   #101 
  - I think the issue is handguns, not rifles and shotguns.  CTyankee   Nov-21-07 02:39 PM   #115 
     - Umm...H.R.1022 would ban the most popular rifles in America.  benEzra   Nov-21-07 02:56 PM   #123 
        - Really? Where are your armored tanks? Firepower to match that of the United States Army?  CTyankee   Nov-21-07 03:29 PM   #126 
           - Thoughts...  benEzra   Nov-21-07 04:10 PM   #134 
           - I am glad your life was saved. It is not to your detriment, tho, to point to  CTyankee   Nov-21-07 04:59 PM   #140 
           - They're in the same place Iraqi insurgents keep them, right?  SteveM   Nov-21-07 05:20 PM   #144 
           - Yes, and I am so glad you brought this into the argument!  CTyankee   Nov-21-07 06:04 PM   #151 
              - so........we all get a free AK?  Tejas   Nov-21-07 06:10 PM   #152 
                 - I hope I can help and am sorry I am so dense.  CTyankee   Nov-21-07 06:18 PM   #154 
                 - yeah, pretty much.  Tejas   Nov-21-07 07:00 PM   #163 
                 - No, my bad. I should not have written "losing insurgency." Ugh.  CTyankee   Nov-21-07 07:31 PM   #166 
                 - How would the US military deal with hit and run insurgents?  Nabeshin   Nov-21-07 07:42 PM   #168 
                 - Are we talking about a rational government here?  CTyankee   Nov-21-07 08:09 PM   #172 
                 - I'm still confused  dmesg   Nov-21-07 10:40 PM   #194 
                    - But I was talking about our own government vs. our own population.  CTyankee   Nov-22-07 07:20 AM   #210 
                 - Actually, I want a Thompson  EstimatedProphet   Nov-22-07 01:26 PM   #223 
                    - you don't want much do you  Tejas   Nov-22-07 04:26 PM   #229 
                       - And a reloader. Yeah. A Thompson and a reloader.  EstimatedProphet   Nov-22-07 05:10 PM   #230 
           - own private militias will prevail in such a conflict?  FORREST GRUMP   Nov-21-07 06:51 PM   #160 
           - Well, let's look at them case by case.  CTyankee   Nov-21-07 07:48 PM   #170 
              - Yes, of course it would,'t work here.  FORREST GRUMP   Nov-21-07 08:42 PM   #174 
           - Private militias  dmesg   Nov-21-07 10:36 PM   #193 
           - Yes, worked fine in getting us out of Vietnam and will eventually in Iraq.  CTyankee   Nov-22-07 07:26 AM   #211 
              - The foreignness, inexplicably, seems to matter a lot to you...  dmesg   Nov-22-07 11:36 AM   #219 
           - Have you seen what a group of guys with improvised  madeline_con   Nov-21-07 11:28 PM   #203 
           - You make the RPG's in your garage, along with the IED's  dmesg   Nov-21-07 11:42 PM   #205 
              - Then, we'll have everything we need for the revolution. n/t  madeline_con   Nov-21-07 11:48 PM   #206 
                 - where would the UN stand on this? n/t  Tejas   Nov-22-07 04:24 PM   #228 
           - You don't need Armored tanks to overthrow a Government.  MiltonF   Nov-22-07 10:21 AM   #218 
  - Good luck ever winning an election without the Midwest states.  BadgerLaw2010   Nov-21-07 02:17 PM   #110 
  - Wow. Thanks for letting me know I'm not progressive, Xenotime!  dmesg   Nov-21-07 09:00 PM   #175 
  - how do you figure?  fishwax   Nov-21-07 10:57 PM   #198 
  - what makes you think that progressives don't eat meat?  QuestionAll   Nov-22-07 07:36 AM   #212 
  - cali, I ran the post through the Babelfish translator.  DuStrange   Nov-21-07 02:27 PM   #112 
  - Here too! I just got a deer and hope for another this weekend.  SteveM   Nov-21-07 05:16 PM   #143 
  - That's unfair.  barb162   Nov-21-07 10:27 PM   #190 
  - Yes, they should.  mainegreen   Nov-21-07 10:17 AM   #11 
  - You understand that this could be a case of one sided politics?  wuushew   Nov-21-07 10:28 AM   #18 
  - DC didn't regulate handguns, they banned them. nt  mvccd1000   Nov-21-07 10:34 AM   #20 
  - So did Virginia Tech.  karlrschneider   Nov-21-07 10:36 AM   #21 
  - Good luck with that statehood thing ..  JustABozoOnThisBus   Nov-21-07 10:39 AM   #22 
  - I wish there were a "Democracy for DC" topic board...  dmesg   Nov-21-07 10:45 PM   #195 
  - One job of the SCOTUS...  beevul   Nov-21-07 02:11 PM   #105 
     - And both plaintiff and defendent petioned the court to hear the case.  D__S   Nov-21-07 03:50 PM   #133 
  - can we win without the anti-gun nuts?  mdmc   Nov-21-07 10:39 AM   #23 
  - It would be very hard without Ohio  wuushew   Nov-21-07 10:41 AM   #25 
  - It's because there is no reasoned debate on the issue.  mmonk   Nov-21-07 10:40 AM   #24 
  - As much of a gun-control advocate as I am, I've got to agree - it's a loser of a political issue.  marmar   Nov-21-07 10:43 AM   #26 
  - Not for me!  Beausoir   Nov-21-07 10:47 AM   #27 
  - Why do you say this? Have the Dem's been obsessing about gun control lately? Or...  devilgrrl   Nov-21-07 10:54 AM   #30 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-21-07 11:06 AM   #32 
  - Oooh ouch! Don't hurt me like that!  devilgrrl   Nov-21-07 11:42 AM   #45 
  - If Dems were not "obsessing," then why this massive response?  SteveM   Nov-21-07 05:36 PM   #148 
     - Why the massive response? Because it's flamebait...  devilgrrl   Nov-22-07 02:44 PM   #224 
  - It's clear that the reslugs  zidzi   Nov-21-07 10:55 AM   #31 
  - Brady analogies hurt us too.  Tejas   Nov-21-07 11:25 AM   #36 
  - Oh really? Well, I say Biden  zidzi   Nov-21-07 11:32 AM   #40 
     - Not sure I understand...  Tejas   Nov-21-07 11:42 AM   #46 
        - Then we're on  zidzi   Nov-21-07 12:02 PM   #53 
  - WOW....  virginia mountainman   Nov-21-07 05:23 PM   #145 
  - power......  loyalsister   Nov-21-07 08:26 PM   #173 
  - And "assault weapons" are neither  dmesg   Nov-21-07 09:08 PM   #177 
  - Assault weapons  Thothmes   Nov-23-07 07:59 AM   #233 
     - No no no no no no no no no no no!  dmesg   Nov-23-07 02:08 PM   #235 
  - You still don't get it...  virginia mountainman   Nov-21-07 10:17 PM   #187 
  - Sorry  loyalsister   Nov-23-07 06:19 PM   #242 
     - So do swimming pools, but you don't want to ban them...  virginia mountainman   Nov-23-07 10:10 PM   #244 
        - Gun porno...  loyalsister   Nov-24-07 03:27 PM   #245 
           - I see...  virginia mountainman   Nov-24-07 11:19 PM   #249 
  - I think you've been spun...  benEzra   Nov-22-07 01:02 PM   #221 
     - yeah yeah yeah  loyalsister   Nov-23-07 06:43 PM   #243 
  - I wrote..."killers on the  zidzi   Nov-21-07 11:12 PM   #199 
  - Hunting is by no means a guaranteed right. Gun ownership is.  dmesg   Nov-21-07 09:07 PM   #176 
  - If it were up to me, I'd ban handguns. But I know it isn't up to me, so  Basileus Basileon   Nov-21-07 11:11 AM   #33 
  - I'd rather ban criminals.  Tejas   Nov-21-07 11:29 AM   #39 
     - If we outlaw crimes, only criminals will commit them!  Basileus Basileon   Nov-21-07 11:32 AM   #41 
  - great thread for the GUNS forum  Tejas   Nov-21-07 11:28 AM   #37 
  - The hard-core gun nuts still now and forever will believe the Dems are gun grabbers  Lone_Star_Dem   Nov-21-07 11:41 AM   #44 
  - Perhaps  WGS   Nov-21-07 12:39 PM   #67 
     - You're jumping to conclusions  Lone_Star_Dem   Nov-21-07 01:37 PM   #94 
        - clarification?  Tejas   Nov-21-07 02:05 PM   #102 
        - As I said  Lone_Star_Dem   Nov-21-07 02:25 PM   #111 
           - shoot!  Tejas   Nov-21-07 02:40 PM   #116 
           - I'm really about responsible gun ownership  Lone_Star_Dem   Nov-21-07 03:31 PM   #127 
           - I know so well. My neice, age 24 and recently married, was killed by a handgun wielded by her  CTyankee   Nov-21-07 02:48 PM   #120 
              - That's heartbreaking.  Lone_Star_Dem   Nov-21-07 03:36 PM   #130 
                 - Unfortunately, there was nothing to stop him, so she died. n/t  CTyankee   Nov-21-07 03:47 PM   #132 
        - There you go again, using that term.  WGS   Nov-21-07 02:16 PM   #109 
           - LOL!  Lone_Star_Dem   Nov-21-07 02:27 PM   #113 
  - All wedge issues should be avoided  OzarkDem   Nov-21-07 11:54 AM   #50 
  - That's right, stick to repug talking points. Nothing controversial.  stranger81   Nov-21-07 12:00 PM   #51 
  - Confucius say: cut off nose make glasses fall down.  Tejas   Nov-21-07 12:15 PM   #55 
  - This isn't 1994.  stranger81   Nov-21-07 12:24 PM   #59 
     - Is Gun Control really part of the Democratic Agenda?  Bleachers7   Nov-21-07 12:30 PM   #62 
        - ...and a B-52 will fit in my closet.  Tejas   Nov-21-07 12:40 PM   #69 
        - Not at all  Bleachers7   Nov-21-07 12:44 PM   #71 
           - Your "narrow limits" vs the election results of '94  Tejas   Nov-21-07 12:59 PM   #75 
           - I'm not sure where the confusion is.  Bleachers7   Nov-21-07 01:07 PM   #77 
              - if so, then my bad  Tejas   Nov-21-07 01:32 PM   #91 
           - "Assault weapons" is as narrow as banning "all abortions after the 12th week"--i.e., it's NOT.  benEzra   Nov-21-07 02:43 PM   #117 
        - While it may be a limited provision, these restrictions are important.  stranger81   Nov-21-07 12:45 PM   #72 
        - We should not back off.  Bleachers7   Nov-21-07 12:53 PM   #73 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-21-07 02:09 PM   #103 
        - Stepping on a mine the second time won't make the result any different...  SteveM   Nov-21-07 05:52 PM   #150 
        - Outlawing firearms that have been in civilian hands for 100 years...  derby378   Nov-22-07 09:47 AM   #216 
        - At what point did gun control become part of the Democratic core platform?  EstimatedProphet   Nov-23-07 03:04 PM   #239 
        - Banning the most popular civilian target/defensive rifles in America...  benEzra   Nov-21-07 03:03 PM   #125 
        - Thank you for pointing that out, Beachers  FORREST GRUMP   Nov-21-07 07:20 PM   #164 
        - The "assault weapons ban" is precisely the problem  dmesg   Nov-21-07 09:12 PM   #178 
           - agreed  abmand   Nov-21-07 10:03 PM   #185 
  - I disagree.  Bleachers7   Nov-21-07 12:18 PM   #57 
  - I don't doubt that, but I also have no doubt the vast majority of DUers,  stranger81   Nov-21-07 12:23 PM   #58 
     - This is where the philosphical discussions get complicated  Bleachers7   Nov-21-07 12:26 PM   #60 
     - so why do you think gun control is a "bad habit" the party needs to abandon?  stranger81   Nov-21-07 12:31 PM   #63 
        - Gun rights is overplayed by members of the party  Bleachers7   Nov-21-07 12:37 PM   #65 
        - On all those issues, I hope my party takes the correct stance,  dmesg   Nov-21-07 10:16 PM   #186 
     - Some of us DU'ers actually do hunt rabbits with assault rifles  NickB79   Nov-21-07 01:03 PM   #76 
     - take your pick...  Tejas   Nov-21-07 01:40 PM   #96 
     - An AK is more of a small-deer caliber (similar to .30-30 Winchester)  benEzra   Nov-21-07 02:37 PM   #114 
     - Sigh...  dmesg   Nov-21-07 09:16 PM   #179 
        - "Actual" AK-47s aren't illegal - just tightly regulated  derby378   Nov-21-07 09:38 PM   #182 
           - By that definition cocaine isn't "illegal" either...  dmesg   Nov-21-07 10:28 PM   #191 
              - I see your point...  derby378   Nov-22-07 09:34 AM   #214 
  - I'd remind you that the Senate was recaptured in '06 by PRO-GUN DEMS...  benEzra   Nov-21-07 03:00 PM   #124 
     - and Congress got their share of......  Tejas   Nov-21-07 03:32 PM   #128 
        - McCarthy was already there, and wasn't running in a gun-owning district...  benEzra   Nov-21-07 04:20 PM   #135 
           - my bad, had a flashback  Tejas   Nov-21-07 04:34 PM   #136 
  - I agree in general.  Bleachers7   Nov-21-07 12:17 PM   #56 
  - It's certainly clear we should not try to appease the NRA crowd  NewJeffCT   Nov-21-07 12:29 PM   #61 
  - Meanwhile...  beevul   Nov-22-07 12:23 AM   #207 
  - No one is talking about gun control except you.  Cleita   Nov-21-07 12:34 PM   #64 
  - We've seen this on DU as well  Bleachers7   Nov-21-07 12:40 PM   #68 
  - Here's one poll that ran in General Discussion...  benEzra   Nov-21-07 02:51 PM   #122 
     - I answered "yes" to that poll & I am for greater gun legislation.  U4ikLefty   Nov-21-07 07:50 PM   #171 
  - Cleita...  Tejas   Nov-21-07 01:16 PM   #81 
  - I don't think Biden is after anyone, but trying to court a  Cleita   Nov-21-07 01:35 PM   #93 
  - lol- right no one but little old me and  cali   Nov-21-07 02:11 PM   #106 
  - First step: Refuse to support gun bans  aikoaiko   Nov-21-07 12:56 PM   #74 
  - Nu-uh! Most Americans want MORE gun control.  Perry Logan   Nov-21-07 01:09 PM   #78 
  - Exactly  fascisthunter   Nov-21-07 01:26 PM   #88 
  - you have the floor  Tejas   Nov-21-07 02:10 PM   #104 
  - ONE ISSUE DID NOT DECIDE 1994'S ELECTION  fascisthunter   Nov-21-07 05:11 PM   #141 
  - Even Bill Clinton said that is why we lost in 94  virginia mountainman   Nov-21-07 05:27 PM   #147 
  - Clinton Said Lots of things  fascisthunter   Nov-21-07 09:42 PM   #184 
  - That "conservative BS"-er Bill Clinton said the AWB sank one Al Gore. PUre enough?  SteveM   Nov-21-07 06:13 PM   #153 
  - "At least some regulation..." Like what? Even Texas' CCW law is a regulation.  SteveM   Nov-21-07 06:50 PM   #159 
  - "Overwhelmingly?"  derby378   Nov-21-07 09:40 PM   #183 
  - Oh, stop making sense with facts  Lorien   Nov-22-07 01:00 AM   #209 
  - Gee, that's funny  MadHound   Nov-21-07 01:21 PM   #84 
  - The devil is in the details, MadHound  slackmaster   Nov-21-07 01:24 PM   #86 
  - Banning the most popular target and defensive rifles in America...  benEzra   Nov-21-07 02:49 PM   #121 
  - The opposite was true here in '94.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Nov-21-07 01:29 PM   #90 
  - know how bernie sanders became Representative Sanders?  cali   Nov-21-07 02:13 PM   #107 
     - Vermont's gun laws:________________________. Quiz follows (nt)  SteveM   Nov-21-07 06:18 PM   #155 
  - I actually agree with you ...  PassingFair   Nov-21-07 03:32 PM   #129 
  - gathering a consensus on the matter will be a monumental task in this country  hiphopnation23   Nov-21-07 05:26 PM   #146 
  - you're probably already on a watch-list  Tejas   Nov-21-07 05:49 PM   #149 
  - In principle, you will be resisted vigorously.  SteveM   Nov-21-07 06:24 PM   #156 
  - Who's "we"?  benEzra   Nov-21-07 06:49 PM   #158 
  - we support that?  dmesg   Nov-21-07 09:21 PM   #180 
  - Who is "we"?  beevul   Nov-22-07 12:27 AM   #208 
  - Nor is it a priority issue. Good one Cali. nt  Flabbergasted   Nov-21-07 06:59 PM   #162 
  - agreed  upi402   Nov-21-07 07:24 PM   #165 
  - there should be more gun control over crazy assed guys like Bush.  Whisp   Nov-21-07 07:36 PM   #167 
  - It depends where one lives, and one's experiences.  salin   Nov-21-07 09:34 PM   #181 
  - No one wants to see criminals with guns...  benEzra   Nov-22-07 01:11 PM   #222 
  - It's a sad truth, cali, but it is the truth and I agree with you.  David Zephyr   Nov-21-07 10:47 PM   #196 
  - The right to own guns and the 2nd amendment is a very LIBERAL idea..  B Calm   Nov-21-07 11:38 PM   #204 
  - Yeah, Right. "A Very LIBERAL Idea"....  Paladin   Nov-22-07 08:50 AM   #213 
  - Not that shit again...  beevul   Nov-22-07 10:13 AM   #217 
  - Well said.  Alexander   Nov-22-07 11:56 AM   #220 
  - Excuse me! But personal freedoms is not a conservative idea!  B Calm   Nov-22-07 04:21 PM   #227 
  - Yes!  EstimatedProphet   Nov-22-07 02:50 PM   #225 
  - This time...  sendero   Nov-22-07 09:38 AM   #215 
  - I agree. The theocratic nuts control the GOP. We should define ourselves as the party of freedom.  impeachdubya   Nov-22-07 03:17 PM   #226 
  - THATS RIGHT!  virginia mountainman   Nov-23-07 06:33 AM   #232 
  - Can't believe the lynch mob isn't here yet. n/t  Tejas   Nov-24-07 10:12 PM   #248 
  - Absolutely. Well said. (n/t)  benEzra   Nov-23-07 02:46 PM   #238 
  - Nobody here watched "Bowling for Columbine," did they?  tomreedtoon   Nov-24-07 03:47 PM   #247 
 

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