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roxnev Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 03:54 PM
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138. How stupid can they get
Religion is the trouble in Iraq. Who is stupid enough to believe, that God wants some one who was forced, to to say their is a God.
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  -6,000 complaints from soldiers who claim to have been persecuted by Christian evangelicals; seemslikeadream  Nov-20-07 08:28 PM   #0 
  - Praise the lord and pass the ammo!  EOO   Nov-20-07 08:31 PM   #1 
  - C-SPAN2 showed a speech by Michael Weinstein. Here's a link...  IMModerate   Nov-21-07 11:11 AM   #89 
  - he's doing the right thing. good for him and I am a Christian. I hate  roguevalley   Nov-21-07 02:41 PM   #119 
  - s'port the troops, yay  burythehatchet   Nov-20-07 08:34 PM   #2 
  - Weinstein ?  madrchsod   Nov-20-07 08:35 PM   #3 
  - Right. Michael Weinstein was persecuted for being Jewish  MindPilot   Nov-21-07 10:35 AM   #78 
     - Good for him  OzarkDem   Nov-21-07 11:28 AM   #94 
        - I've had the pleasure of meeting him in person  MindPilot   Nov-21-07 04:14 PM   #139 
  - onward christian soldiers, marching AS TO war....against their own friends nt  msongs   Nov-20-07 08:36 PM   #4 
  - Holy SHIT! (so to speak) We are more lucky than we know to have Weinstein waging this war  scarletwoman   Nov-20-07 08:36 PM   #5 
  - I know! Incredble!  zidzi   Nov-21-07 09:42 AM   #64 
  - Most of those from Christians--that's how bad it is.  knitter4democracy   Nov-20-07 08:37 PM   #6 
  - There's only so many non-Christians to go around  Lilith Velkor   Nov-21-07 05:21 AM   #43 
  - You and I know how bad it can be.  yardwork   Nov-21-07 09:37 AM   #60 
     - They are, from what I hear from my cousin.  knitter4democracy   Nov-21-07 01:32 PM   #111 
  - Christianist fascism in the Air Force  seemslikeadream   Nov-20-07 08:38 PM   #7 
  - If someone had made  zidzi   Nov-21-07 09:46 AM   #66 
  - Someone hasn't figured out what Christ taught  lovuian   Nov-21-07 10:51 AM   #84 
  - Wow. Rec'd.  babylonsister   Nov-20-07 08:39 PM   #8 
  - This war is Christian Fascists VS Islam  Tom Sullivan   Nov-20-07 08:47 PM   #12 
     - Hey, I'm a skeptic, but not that much of one.  babylonsister   Nov-20-07 09:24 PM   #19 
        - The camps are being sold to us as for immigrations but..  Tom Sullivan   Nov-20-07 10:27 PM   #26 
        - Irony  parkerll   Nov-21-07 09:26 AM   #57 
        - Gay people.  yardwork   Nov-21-07 09:40 AM   #62 
        - NEVER underestimate a Dominionist (aka Christofascist). NEVER.  kestrel91316   Nov-21-07 08:20 PM   #165 
  - Hagee:Strike Iran 'for Israel' on Moyers  seemslikeadream   Nov-20-07 08:41 PM   #9 
  - Many wars have been  citizen_jane   Nov-20-07 08:43 PM   #10 
  - Chris Hedges: "AMERICAN FASCISTS" The Christian Right vs USA  seemslikeadream   Nov-20-07 08:44 PM   #11 
  - Gee,I'm sick of those nuts!  jeff30997   Nov-20-07 08:47 PM   #13 
  - I love this guy! n/t  Prophet 451   Nov-20-07 08:48 PM   #14 
  - K&R.  bleever   Nov-20-07 08:51 PM   #15 
  - Some people seem to think that Hitler banned Christmas,  seemslikeadream   Nov-20-07 09:01 PM   #16 
  - Wow - thanks for this! Never heard of this man, and now I'm a fan! There are  gateley   Nov-20-07 09:08 PM   #17 
  - Blackwater: Bush's Christian Soldiers  seemslikeadream   Nov-20-07 09:09 PM   #18 
  - "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator:  seemslikeadream   Nov-20-07 09:30 PM   #20 
  - I think the three gold devices on the blue stripe  okasha   Nov-20-07 09:47 PM   #24 
  - The Trinity...  druidity33   Nov-21-07 06:35 AM   #44 
  - "... victory may be indistinguishable from Armageddon. God help the human race."  LaStrega   Nov-20-07 11:42 PM   #29 
  - When I read that I wondered  truth2power   Nov-21-07 09:00 AM   #52 
  - bush and hitler..two little  zidzi   Nov-21-07 09:53 AM   #69 
  - Americans are being persecuted by Christian evangelicals  Lint Head   Nov-20-07 09:32 PM   #21 
  - If those idiots are going to 'heaven'...  freebrew   Nov-21-07 08:44 AM   #47 
  - as a Christian who is disgusted by the thought of INVADING other countries  themartyred   Nov-21-07 08:33 PM   #168 
  - You can always say right  zidzi   Nov-21-07 09:55 AM   #70 
  - Army of God  tanglefoot   Nov-20-07 09:32 PM   #22 
  - All good christians attend church  seemslikeadream   Nov-20-07 09:37 PM   #23 
     - Please don't say all  LittleClarkie   Nov-21-07 12:05 AM   #31 
     - Thanks for posting this....I daresay mainstream christians would be the most angry at it  earthlover   Nov-21-07 05:56 PM   #151 
     - seemslikeadream  Diclotican   Nov-21-07 02:24 PM   #117 
  - The Thumpers core is at the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs n/t  Didereaux   Nov-20-07 09:59 PM   #25 
  - That explains why the Air Force officers can rape their cadets  Tom Sullivan   Nov-20-07 10:29 PM   #27 
  - Hey Tom Sullivan  seemslikeadream   Nov-20-07 10:40 PM   #28 
  - That is where Focus on the Family and Dobson have their headquarters.  kestrel91316   Nov-21-07 08:26 PM   #166 
  - 95 percent of the complaints come from mainstream Christians  LittleClarkie   Nov-20-07 11:56 PM   #30 
  - If Jesus walked on this planet today, he wouldn't hang out with these jerks  Reno.Muse   Nov-21-07 12:13 AM   #32 
  - You know he would hang out with them.  balantz   Nov-21-07 12:32 AM   #35 
     - I was going to say he'd hang out with them in the same way he hung with tax collectors  LittleClarkie   Nov-21-07 01:45 AM   #38 
        - Yeah, that might put them in the column of  balantz   Nov-21-07 09:46 AM   #65 
  - Freaky  balantz   Nov-21-07 12:13 AM   #33 
  - And our corporatewhoremedia  zidzi   Nov-21-07 10:05 AM   #72 
  - Jesus wept  Lydia Leftcoast   Nov-21-07 12:15 AM   #34 
  - Me too. When I told one I'm happy at my church and when I become unhappy I'll check them out ...  LittleClarkie   Nov-21-07 12:39 AM   #36 
  - Maybe tell them  balantz   Nov-21-07 01:01 AM   #37 
  - Sick  FuzzyDicePHL   Nov-21-07 05:17 AM   #41 
     - hahaha  jasonc   Nov-21-07 10:25 AM   #76 
     - OMG.......BEST. SMARTASS. RETORT. EVER.  kestrel91316   Nov-21-07 08:28 PM   #167 
  - K&R n/t  mogster   Nov-21-07 04:41 AM   #39 
  - Goddamned Fundies!  DeSwiss   Nov-21-07 04:58 AM   #40 
  - Excellent article.  cali   Nov-21-07 05:17 AM   #42 
  - RECOMMEND!  RainDog   Nov-21-07 08:23 AM   #45 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-21-07 08:35 AM   #46 
  - Fundies trigger the rapture?  Turbineguy   Nov-21-07 08:47 AM   #48 
  - Awesome  SharkSquid   Nov-21-07 08:50 AM   #49 
  - Wow.  LWolf   Nov-21-07 08:51 AM   #50 
  - I hope that he gets support from secular organizations...  SidDithers   Nov-21-07 08:53 AM   #51 
  - Does he have some organization backing him? Somewhere to donate to support his cause?  The Stranger   Nov-21-07 09:03 AM   #53 
  - the umbrella organization is secular.org  MindPilot   Nov-21-07 10:39 AM   #79 
     - Thanks. He also appears to have some sort of foundation mentioned int he article.  The Stranger   Nov-21-07 11:15 AM   #90 
  - It's not just the military, They're everywhere.  mojowork_n   Nov-21-07 09:18 AM   #54 
  - Christians and those that really read the bible and are led by the Holy Spirit....  L0oniX   Nov-21-07 09:21 AM   #55 
  - Sorry, but they're all Christians...nt  SidDithers   Nov-21-07 10:43 AM   #80 
     - not necessarily  kineneb   Nov-21-07 11:07 AM   #86 
     - So your bible says that Paul called other believers christians?  L0oniX   Nov-21-07 11:10 AM   #88 
        - I don't follow the teachings of Paul  kineneb   Nov-21-07 11:31 AM   #95 
        - I don't have a bible...  SidDithers   Nov-21-07 11:49 AM   #99 
           - Hitler was a christian  seemslikeadream   Nov-21-07 12:15 PM   #101 
           - Stalin was a christian  seemslikeadream   Nov-21-07 12:18 PM   #102 
           - Chiang Kai-shek was a christian  seemslikeadream   Nov-21-07 12:23 PM   #103 
           - Hey! We agree on something...  SidDithers   Nov-21-07 12:41 PM   #106 
              - Please let's keep that our little secret, OK Sid?  seemslikeadream   Nov-21-07 01:06 PM   #108 
           - Just as there are fucked up Muslims, Jews, etc  LittleClarkie   Nov-21-07 06:19 PM   #154 
  - We. Are. SO. Fucked.  kedrys   Nov-21-07 09:25 AM   #56 
  - These extremist religious groups use brain washing  windoe   Nov-21-07 09:57 AM   #71 
  - Yes!  kineneb   Nov-21-07 11:15 AM   #91 
  - I'm actually grateful it's only that low  Downtown Hound   Nov-21-07 02:23 PM   #116 
  - No, we aren't interested in shoving you  sailor65   Nov-21-07 03:23 PM   #130 
  - What the military schools are doing  AikidoSoul   Nov-21-07 09:33 AM   #58 
  - It helps when everybody in power has the same whacked beliefs you do.  Downtown Hound   Nov-21-07 02:59 PM   #125 
  - "many of these soldiers - hardcore end-timers and Dominionists"  yardwork   Nov-21-07 09:36 AM   #59 
  - Zounds! I've seen this  zidzi   Nov-21-07 09:38 AM   #61 
  - Supply-side Jesus. Money in one hand and a bomb in the other!  Joanne98   Nov-21-07 09:41 AM   #63 
  - When I first saw this photo  balantz   Nov-21-07 09:48 AM   #67 
  - Why are they all looking at their crotches?  balantz   Nov-21-07 09:51 AM   #68 
     - They're preying!  Joanne98   Nov-21-07 10:06 AM   #73 
  - Joanne98!! WTF??  seemslikeadream   Nov-21-07 04:58 PM   #145 
  - These are not Christians  eagler   Nov-21-07 10:16 AM   #74 
  - Yes they are...nt  SidDithers   Nov-21-07 10:46 AM   #82 
  - Christians should SPEAK out against this crap  seemslikeadream   Nov-21-07 11:22 AM   #93 
  - 2000 years of history says you are wrong.  IMModerate   Nov-21-07 10:57 AM   #85 
  - Imagine the army of Christians when we have marshal law in this country.  Mountainman   Nov-21-07 10:24 AM   #75 
  - Greatest quote ever!  sasquatch   Nov-21-07 10:33 AM   #77 
  - fundies are a disease in the faith. recommend  xchrom   Nov-21-07 10:46 AM   #81 
  - Yet we are still expected to "respect" religion.  MindPilot   Nov-21-07 10:47 AM   #83 
  - You're expected to respect people  spoony   Nov-21-07 11:10 AM   #87 
     - I respect your absolute right to hold whatever belief you want.  MindPilot   Nov-21-07 11:17 AM   #92 
  - I suppose it's too much to ask  Golden Raisin   Nov-21-07 11:38 AM   #96 
  - For all we know, the Vichy "Dems" are all just a bunch of "Ivans"  kestrel91316   Nov-21-07 08:35 PM   #169 
  - I'm glad someone is drawing attention to this  Hydra   Nov-21-07 11:46 AM   #97 
  - I absolutely love this guy!  Gman   Nov-21-07 11:47 AM   #98 
  - An expose of the religious bigotry of the Christian Right  IsaiahTruman   Nov-21-07 12:07 PM   #100 
  - then all the non-believers should go AWOL  Neo   Nov-21-07 12:27 PM   #104 
  - How to handle fundies  azureblue   Nov-21-07 12:36 PM   #105 
  - That might get them off of your back, but the truth will evade them.  balantz   Nov-21-07 12:44 PM   #107 
  - Listen to "Mikey" (his preferred handle) Weinstein with Ian Masters at  cadaverdog   Nov-21-07 01:15 PM   #109 
  - Thank you so much cadaverdog  seemslikeadream   Nov-21-07 01:17 PM   #110 
  - I knew I had Masters on my favorites!  seemslikeadream   Nov-21-07 06:33 PM   #156 
  - seemslikeadream  Diclotican   Nov-21-07 01:57 PM   #112 
  - The "rapture" is a Self-Fulfilling Prophecy  fascisthunter   Nov-21-07 02:04 PM   #114 
  - fascisthunter  Diclotican   Nov-21-07 02:45 PM   #122 
  - I know Diclotican, couldn't agree with you more  seemslikeadream   Nov-21-07 02:12 PM   #115 
     - seemslikeadream  Diclotican   Nov-21-07 02:35 PM   #118 
        - Thank you for caring  seemslikeadream   Nov-21-07 02:42 PM   #120 
           - seemslikeadream  Diclotican   Nov-21-07 02:49 PM   #123 
              - It is frustrating for an American like me,  balantz   Nov-21-07 03:16 PM   #128 
              - balantz  Diclotican   Nov-21-07 05:11 PM   #146 
              - balantz  Diclotican   Nov-21-07 05:11 PM   #147 
                 - Diclotican  balantz   Nov-21-07 05:58 PM   #152 
                    - balantz  Diclotican   Nov-21-07 06:17 PM   #153 
                       - Thanks Diclotican  balantz   Nov-21-07 07:02 PM   #157 
                          - balantz  Diclotican   Nov-21-07 09:14 PM   #171 
                             - Well thankfully I always knew it was a sham.  balantz   Nov-21-07 09:26 PM   #172 
                                - balantz  Diclotican   Nov-21-07 09:41 PM   #174 
                                   - Yes, something has been rotting for a very long time.  balantz   Nov-21-07 10:02 PM   #175 
              - Have you ever heard this song?  seemslikeadream   Nov-21-07 03:26 PM   #132 
                 - seemslikeadream  Diclotican   Nov-21-07 05:12 PM   #148 
  - Isn't It Illegal to Co-opt the Military Politically and Religiously?  fascisthunter   Nov-21-07 02:02 PM   #113 
  - Onward Christian Soldier  T.Ruth2power   Nov-21-07 02:42 PM   #121 
  - Keep your eyes on this man...  hayu_lol   Nov-21-07 03:01 PM   #126 
  - Lt. General Boykin quotes  balantz   Nov-21-07 03:30 PM   #135 
  - Kinda scary shit there....  balantz   Nov-21-07 03:24 PM   #131 
  - White men came in the name of god  seemslikeadream   Nov-21-07 03:29 PM   #133 
  - Kick & Nominated  pberq   Nov-21-07 02:59 PM   #124 
  - It's not the Army I knew...  Miss Chybil   Nov-21-07 03:08 PM   #127 
  - Without people like Weinstein we are doomed.  ooglymoogly   Nov-21-07 03:20 PM   #129 
  - Nothing stranger than watching  sailor65   Nov-21-07 03:29 PM   #134 
  - I did.  balantz   Nov-21-07 04:35 PM   #143 
  - Excellent post and excellent followups by the OP  AikidoSoul   Nov-21-07 03:49 PM   #136 
  - Nominated yet again...  AikidoSoul   Nov-21-07 03:52 PM   #137 
  - How stupid can they get  roxnev   Nov-21-07 03:54 PM   #138 
  - Excellent post, SLaD  me b zola   Nov-21-07 04:28 PM   #140 
  - Wow.  bushwentawol   Nov-21-07 04:30 PM   #141 
  - Gott Mit Uns  provis99   Nov-21-07 04:35 PM   #142 
  - BELT BUCKLES?  seemslikeadream   Nov-21-07 04:54 PM   #144 
     - good lord. is that photo for real?  provis99   Nov-21-07 05:24 PM   #149 
     - YES it is  seemslikeadream   Nov-21-07 05:26 PM   #150 
     - I always thought Ahnuld had the heart of a true Nazi. The apple really  kestrel91316   Nov-21-07 08:42 PM   #170 
        - Is this belt buckle a family heirloom?  balantz   Nov-21-07 09:27 PM   #173 
  - Time for this chestnut again.....  pepperbear   Nov-21-07 06:22 PM   #155 
  - People need to know about this  balantz   Nov-21-07 07:20 PM   #158 
  - Hagee:Strike Iran 'for Israel' on Moyers  seemslikeadream   Nov-21-07 07:23 PM   #160 
  - Christian Soldiers: Life in Iraq  seemslikeadream   Nov-21-07 07:26 PM   #161 
  - Blackwater Invades Illinois  seemslikeadream   Nov-21-07 07:33 PM   #162 
  - fighting religious fanatics over there, so they can fight them over here  upi402   Nov-21-07 07:22 PM   #159 
  - Lets not forget the orders from the Pentagon that every soldier had to pray for dimwit  kelligesq   Nov-21-07 08:16 PM   #163 
  - OMG. Good for him (and us). This man is a TRUE American hero.  kestrel91316   Nov-21-07 08:16 PM   #164 
  - Wow!  Bryn   Nov-21-07 11:06 PM   #176 
  - Michael Wynne:  seemslikeadream   Nov-23-07 11:06 AM   #177 
 

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