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66. Central Florida School Board says don't teach evolution alone. Updated at 2:17 PM
This is almost unbelievable to me. To those who in the past have said I was overreacting to the environment in this area of Florida....apologies accepted.



Polk School Board Leans Toward Inclusion of Intelligent Design

LAKELAND | A majority of Polk County School Board members say they support teaching intelligent design in addition to evolution in public schools.

Board members Tim Harris, Margaret Lofton and Hazel Sellers said they oppose proposed science standards for Florida schools that lists evolution and biological diversity as one of the "big ideas" that students need to know for a well-grounded science education.

Board member Kay Fields said last week she wants intelligent design, which is promoted by some Christian groups, taught in science classes in addition to evolution.

"If it ever comes to the board for a vote, I will vote against the teaching of evolution as part of the science curriculum," Lofton said. "If (evolution) is taught, I would want to balance it with the fact that we may live in a universe created by a supreme being as well."

Board members Frank O'Reilly and Brenda Reddout said they were unwilling to endorse intelligent design over evolution. Board member Lori Cunningham said she hasn't made up her mind.


And the best remark of all from the County School Superintendent:

Polk school Superintendent Gail McKinzie said she thinks evolution is a theory and intelligent design a belief.

The district, McKinzie said, will be forced to accept the new standards if the state Board of Education adopts them unless board members "want to make a court case out of it."


This is simply pathetic.


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  Evolution opponents in Florida rising up against what they call "indoctrination." madfloridian  Nov-19-07 11:08 PM   #0 
   My eyes are bleeding  frogmarch   Nov-19-07 11:12 PM   #1 
   That is only a part of the hour long video. It is terribly scary.  madfloridian   Nov-19-07 11:18 PM   #5 
      They're destroying those children's brains!  frogmarch   Nov-19-07 11:49 PM   #9 
         More like 150 million  uberllama42   Nov-20-07 07:57 AM   #28 
            I don't buy that  YOY   Nov-20-07 09:55 AM   #43 
               Why not?  uberllama42   Nov-20-07 10:24 AM   #48 
                  Because they aren't. 50% is not viable.  YOY   Nov-20-07 11:10 AM   #55 
                     It's believable. Given the overall higher religious belief in the US  muriel_volestrangler   Nov-20-07 11:54 AM   #58 
                     Salon had a good article about science eduction in Turkey  Dudley_DUright   Nov-20-07 12:18 PM   #61 
                     Well, so much for being the most scientifically advanced country!  Blue Fire   Nov-20-07 09:55 PM   #78 
                     Suck it, Turkey!  IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge   Nov-26-07 08:19 AM   #91 
                     I'd like to believe that those numbers are really high  uberllama42   Nov-20-07 04:12 PM   #69 
                        I have no idea where the average Hindu stands. Never read the Vedas/Upanishads  YOY   Nov-20-07 04:35 PM   #71 
   We're not a very modern country despite our weapons technology.  mmonk   Nov-19-07 11:12 PM   #2 
   We are going backwards.  madfloridian   Nov-19-07 11:16 PM   #3 
   Florida has a Department of Evolution?  cloudbase   Nov-19-07 11:18 PM   #4 
   Ha Ha I caught that and fixed it.  madfloridian   Nov-19-07 11:19 PM   #7 
   What can you say in the face of such profound ignorance?  ladjf   Nov-19-07 11:18 PM   #6 
   Ok, just ask these creationists why they support teaching terrorist Dogma?  NutmegYankee   Nov-19-07 11:26 PM   #8 
   Buhuwaahaahaaha!  symbolman   Nov-20-07 10:33 AM   #51 
   their Ignorance is appalling  StClone   Nov-19-07 11:52 PM   #10 
   I can't get past  spag68   Nov-20-07 12:28 AM   #11 
   They'll cheerfully respond that, in effect, their god is a fucking liar.  kgfnally   Nov-20-07 12:40 AM   #13 
   yeah, I have never understood that  unpossibles   Nov-20-07 07:59 AM   #29 
   God created it 30 seconds ago when he made this world.  Tesha   Nov-20-07 08:11 AM   #32 
   It all started  The Wizard   Nov-20-07 10:04 AM   #44 
   Rubbers? Why? Are there puddles in Hell? Ohhhhhh.... "Nevermind!" (NT)  Tesha   Nov-26-07 07:16 AM   #88 
   The fossil was put there to test you!  gollygee   Nov-20-07 04:59 PM   #73 
   And the winner is #2  pscot   Nov-20-07 12:37 AM   #12 
   You've got to watch this PBS vid  RainDog   Nov-20-07 01:06 AM   #14 
   I watched that. Best documentary I have seen in years.  Lasher   Nov-20-07 03:39 AM   #18 
   You can watch the whole show online  Dudley_DUright   Nov-20-07 07:47 AM   #26 
   Thanks Dudley  Lasher   Nov-20-07 09:32 AM   #39 
   Sorta gives one hope about this country  BlueEyedSon   Nov-20-07 01:28 PM   #64 
   Great documentary, and shows both sides for what they are--no  NoFederales   Nov-20-07 09:49 AM   #41 
   One of the best docs from Nova in a while  AllieB   Nov-20-07 11:13 AM   #56 
   Thanks, will watch it.  madfloridian   Nov-20-07 11:58 AM   #60 
   school boards etc.  ptolle   Nov-20-07 12:34 PM   #62 
   and how many of the ID "expert witnesses" ducked out ...4 out of 7??  BlueEyedSon   Nov-20-07 01:28 PM   #63 
   and the textbook buying was rigged  RainDog   Nov-20-07 05:12 PM   #74 
   Fantastic!  Jade Fox   Nov-20-07 11:42 PM   #81 
   Ah...to hell with 'em. Let the dumbasses home school themselves into economic oblivion.  NoodleyAppendage   Nov-20-07 01:19 AM   #15 
   Actually, that may be the most viable and practical solution! n/t  Didereaux   Nov-20-07 04:10 AM   #20 
   There's one big snag with that approach ...  Nihil   Nov-20-07 07:44 AM   #25 
   the faith based  KingOfLostSouls   Nov-20-07 01:52 AM   #16 
   "50 million American's don't believe in evolution?"  Disturbed   Nov-20-07 03:21 AM   #17 
      no kidding  KingOfLostSouls   Nov-20-07 06:42 AM   #22 
         sadly, I had a winger tell me that the hoax  unpossibles   Nov-20-07 08:04 AM   #30 
   Welcome to the new Dark Ages  Lasher   Nov-20-07 04:00 AM   #19 
   Ignorance is the GREATEST KILLER of ALL TIME......  opihimoimoi   Nov-20-07 05:18 AM   #21 
   Not to depress you more....but look at this picture.  madfloridian   Nov-20-07 07:45 PM   #76 
      Pat Robinson's ploy 15 years ago...invade/load/join School Boards, City Councils, etc  opihimoimoi   Nov-20-07 10:32 PM   #80 
   Partly our own fault for not calling them on it every time  China_cat   Nov-20-07 06:46 AM   #23 
   What the hell do these people think a "scientific fact" is?  D23MIURG23   Nov-20-07 07:23 AM   #24 
   These people have no clue what a scientific theory is.  Alter Ego   Nov-20-07 07:54 AM   #27 
   They should teach Intelligent Design is school  progressoid   Nov-20-07 08:05 AM   #31 
   Two words for these nuts: private schools  JerseygirlCT   Nov-20-07 08:13 AM   #33 
   Then we won't have to  The Wizard   Nov-20-07 10:11 AM   #46 
   The concept of "zero" is a Satanic lie! Christian math NOW!  NorthernSpy   Nov-20-07 08:41 AM   #34 
   We need to smash all the computers now  uberllama42   Nov-20-07 04:18 PM   #70 
   Don't forget - I think the concept of zero came from the Arabs, too! EOM  libbygurl   Nov-20-07 09:28 PM   #77 
   Is there even anything called scientific fact?  Toots   Nov-20-07 08:47 AM   #35 
   Hair-splitting by flat-earthers  Zodiak Ironfist   Nov-20-07 08:51 AM   #36 
   Ugh, Christofascist moranism and Postmodernist lunacy joined hand in hand.  Odin2005   Nov-20-07 09:03 AM   #37 
   Has the paper published any letters that respond to these examples?  Jim__   Nov-20-07 09:08 AM   #38 
   Creationist tactic #1...  JHB   Nov-20-07 09:46 AM   #40 
   The only problem with the let them be stupid/send the kids to private schools solution  MindPilot   Nov-20-07 09:51 AM   #42 
   Speaking of dumping the idea of ignorance being worthy of respect  sleebarker   Nov-20-07 10:26 AM   #49 
   We must preserve our Crackerhood  flblu2   Nov-20-07 10:11 AM   #45 
   WRONG!  amb123   Nov-20-07 10:19 AM   #47 
   Toddlers rising up, protesting the oppressive demands of toilet training.  Jackpine Radical   Nov-20-07 10:28 AM   #50 
   good one!  nashville_brook   Nov-20-07 10:42 AM   #53 
   Take your favorite fundamentalist to see "The Golden Compass"  missb   Nov-20-07 10:40 AM   #52 
   I hate this state.  seawolf   Nov-20-07 10:56 AM   #54 
   Let me extend an invitation...  MindPilot   Nov-20-07 05:25 PM   #75 
   "be more vocal" Worry not. Everyone knows only the asses bray!  L. Coyote   Nov-20-07 11:20 AM   #57 
   She blinded ME... with science!  DefenseLawyer   Nov-20-07 11:57 AM   #59 
   I'm going to the science standards town meeting in Coral Springs on 11/27.  IMModerate   Nov-20-07 01:48 PM   #65 
   Central Florida School Board says don't teach evolution alone.  madfloridian   Nov-20-07 02:41 PM   #66 
   The Laws of Evolution iare a concrete fact...  and-justice-for-all   Nov-20-07 02:53 PM   #67 
   So carbon dating and core samples  windoe   Nov-20-07 03:12 PM   #68 
   And we're looking to religious nutjobs for what is or isn't science because?  dave123williams   Nov-20-07 04:58 PM   #72 
   Stupid really ought to be painful  Solly Mack   Nov-20-07 09:59 PM   #79 
   So evolution is indoctrination, yet religion is not?  alarimer   Nov-21-07 12:02 AM   #82 
   I aint no GOD DAMNED MONKEY!!!  Dr Fate   Nov-21-07 02:18 AM   #83 
   That's right, you are a HAIRLESS YARD APE!  slackmaster   Nov-21-07 02:35 PM   #86 
   Apparently these fools  truth2power   Nov-21-07 10:24 AM   #84 
   There is observable evolutionary change.  skul_Donteecha   Nov-21-07 02:32 PM   #85 
   Changes in gene frequencies can be observed in real time, under a microscope.  Dr Fate   Nov-21-07 09:30 PM   #87 
   EPIC FAIL for the Fla. DE  sakabatou   Nov-26-07 07:47 AM   #89 
   Blah blah blah anti-science bullshit blah blah blah  IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge   Nov-26-07 08:17 AM   #90 
 

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