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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 07:06 AM
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104. He gave her tag number to the cops
yet she had never left her car, so he lied. The security tape proves it.

The racism charge is more about what the cops did. They make felony stops of white people (several have come forward and given signed depositions to Yvette's attorney) and don't make the white people get out of their car and lay down. And they don't draw their guns. The store security description of her is important since the cops claimed they didn't know she was black until they pulled her over, yet store security clearly identified her as a "black female" when they called the police. It's all on tape.

Thanks for keeping the thread kicked! :hi:
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  -Please sign this petition and don't shop at Penney's proud2Blib  Nov-18-07 09:37 PM   #0 
  - I Refuse To Sign Or Boycott  iamjoy   Nov-18-07 09:47 PM   #1 
  - The Independence, MO police dept has a long history of racial profiling  proud2Blib   Nov-18-07 10:03 PM   #5 
  - That's twice you've mentioned Penney's "history"  Common Sense Party   Nov-19-07 02:21 AM   #22 
     - That particular store, yes  proud2Blib   Nov-19-07 06:51 AM   #23 
        - This isn't a Penneys problem.  progressoid   Nov-19-07 01:56 PM   #47 
           - And yet the power of the boycott...  Orsino   Nov-19-07 04:30 PM   #80 
           - An African American woman here sued Dillards when they falsely accused her  proud2Blib   Nov-19-07 05:02 PM   #82 
  - If that is correct,  Patchuli   Nov-19-07 02:05 AM   #21 
  - This horrific incident was well publicized  malaise   Nov-19-07 07:04 AM   #27 
     - For years? When did this happen?  Iris   Nov-19-07 12:56 PM   #37 
     - I've been boycottting them years before this incident n/t  malaise   Nov-19-07 05:08 PM   #84 
        - oh. I was confused - thinking maybe this incident had happened a long time ago and I just never  Iris   Nov-19-07 06:47 PM   #89 
     - i never heard about it...when did it happen?  QuestionAll   Nov-19-07 11:02 PM   #96 
  - I hope the woman plans on suing the police department. Their behavior  pnwmom   Nov-18-07 09:47 PM   #2 
  - She was sitting in her car waiting for her sister who was in the store.  proud2Blib   Nov-18-07 10:10 PM   #6 
     - question.......  Maine-ah   Nov-19-07 12:02 PM   #34 
        - This is one incident at one store  proud2Blib   Nov-19-07 05:05 PM   #83 
  - I never shop there anyway...  GoddessOfGuinness   Nov-18-07 09:50 PM   #3 
  - Thanks Goddess!  proud2Blib   Nov-18-07 10:23 PM   #10 
  - The police apologized. Penneys also released a statement.  TwilightZone   Nov-18-07 09:55 PM   #4 
  - Thanks for the update.  Lex   Nov-18-07 10:14 PM   #7 
  - It is an incorrect update  proud2Blib   Nov-18-07 10:22 PM   #9 
  - No the police dept did NOT apologize  proud2Blib   Nov-18-07 10:20 PM   #8 
     - at this point they cannot apologize further  hfojvt   Nov-19-07 12:00 AM   #17 
        - She waited three months before she filed the lawsuit  proud2Blib   Nov-19-07 06:52 AM   #24 
  - Unless something like this has happened to you you have no idea how traumatic it is.  kickysnana   Nov-18-07 11:13 PM   #11 
  - the police are always wrong  dwickham   Nov-18-07 11:31 PM   #12 
  - In this case, they were indeed in the wrong.  proud2Blib   Nov-19-07 06:59 AM   #26 
  - As the saying goes, there are three sides to every story:  Feron   Nov-19-07 12:11 AM   #18 
     - Word of mouth (or online petitions) can be the best or worse  dmr   Nov-19-07 01:09 AM   #20 
     - The story has been covered by CNN, ABC and MSNBC  proud2Blib   Nov-19-07 06:58 AM   #25 
  - Front Page for this...Great Post.  givemebackmycountry   Nov-18-07 11:33 PM   #13 
  - Thanks!  proud2Blib   Nov-19-07 07:20 AM   #28 
  - Cops seem to be extra rough with pregnant black gals  951-Riverside   Nov-18-07 11:41 PM   #14 
  - What the hell is the matter with people.  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-07 11:55 PM   #15 
  - I don't know  proud2Blib   Nov-19-07 11:31 AM   #31 
     - We are involved in the most retrograde moment in this nation  sfexpat2000   Nov-19-07 12:58 PM   #39 
  - Penneys? I never step foot in that store regardless n/t  48percenter   Nov-18-07 11:56 PM   #16 
  - it's a deal  shanti   Nov-19-07 12:12 AM   #19 
  - This thread is totally fucking stupid.  CT_Progressive   Nov-19-07 07:35 AM   #29 
  - So Penneys is not responsible for the actions of its employees?  proud2Blib   Nov-19-07 11:30 AM   #30 
  - No, companies are not responsible for the actions of its employees.  CT_Progressive   Nov-19-07 11:53 AM   #32 
     - The employee lied  proud2Blib   Nov-19-07 11:58 AM   #33 
        - That still has nothing to do with JC Penny's  CT_Progressive   Nov-19-07 12:36 PM   #35 
        - Did you even read the OP?  proud2Blib   Nov-19-07 12:54 PM   #36 
        - You'd only lose your job because you committed a crime.  CT_Progressive   Nov-19-07 12:56 PM   #38 
           - So, are you defending racial profiling, lying to police officers  sfexpat2000   Nov-19-07 01:24 PM   #42 
              - No, No, and Yes.  CT_Progressive   Nov-19-07 01:43 PM   #45 
                 - Their employee is acting as an agent of the company.  sfexpat2000   Nov-19-07 01:46 PM   #46 
                 - "Their employee is acting as an agent of the company." You don't know that.  progressoid   Nov-19-07 02:05 PM   #49 
                    - The two categories aren't mutually exclusive. n/t  sfexpat2000   Nov-19-07 02:08 PM   #51 
                       - Nor is it proof of a company wide policy of racial profiling.  progressoid   Nov-19-07 02:11 PM   #52 
                          - The claim doesn't have to be company wide. This individual  sfexpat2000   Nov-19-07 02:15 PM   #54 
                             - But the boycott petitioners (all 209 of them) IS company-wide.  progressoid   Nov-19-07 02:23 PM   #56 
                                - Yes, because "the stupid one" can only be held to account  sfexpat2000   Nov-19-07 02:25 PM   #57 
                                   - You don't know that.  CT_Progressive   Nov-19-07 02:31 PM   #60 
                                   - Which brings us back to proof.  progressoid   Nov-19-07 02:39 PM   #67 
                                      - Stop making sense, you're interfering with the Jihad against Corporate Evil.  CT_Progressive   Nov-19-07 02:41 PM   #68 
                                      - Psst: don't tell anyone. I'm the President of J C Penney  progressoid   Nov-19-07 03:23 PM   #77 
                                      - As far as I know, if he was clocked in, he is their agent.  sfexpat2000   Nov-19-07 02:45 PM   #71 
                                      - Do you not understand that anyone under the employ of a company  sfexpat2000   Nov-19-07 02:54 PM   #73 
                                         - I'm not trying to let a company off the hook.  progressoid   Nov-19-07 03:24 PM   #78 
                 - There is a lot of legal precedent  proud2Blib   Nov-19-07 02:04 PM   #48 
                    - Civilly, you can sue anyone for anything, so that means nothing to me.  CT_Progressive   Nov-19-07 02:13 PM   #53 
                    - You don't know that.  sfexpat2000   Nov-19-07 02:16 PM   #55 
                    - Yet the OP wants to boycott the entire chain of stores over this.  CT_Progressive   Nov-19-07 02:30 PM   #58 
                       - The OP rightfully identified policy as the source of this violation  sfexpat2000   Nov-19-07 02:34 PM   #62 
                          - The OP does NOT indicate that Penny's Policy is responsible for this incident.  CT_Progressive   Nov-19-07 02:35 PM   #64 
                             - Sure it does:  sfexpat2000   Nov-19-07 02:37 PM   #65 
                                - That does not reveal Penny's POLICY.  CT_Progressive   Nov-19-07 02:38 PM   #66 
                                   - I don't think I can help you.  sfexpat2000   Nov-19-07 02:42 PM   #69 
                                      - Sorry, not buying your bullshit.  CT_Progressive   Nov-19-07 02:44 PM   #70 
                                      - On the contrary, it's up to you to prove that this employee  sfexpat2000   Nov-19-07 02:46 PM   #72 
                                      - What??  progressoid   Nov-19-07 03:07 PM   #75 
                                      - There you go making sense again !  CT_Progressive   Nov-19-07 04:19 PM   #79 
                                      - I gather that if your food was spit on,  proud2Blib   Nov-19-07 05:16 PM   #85 
                                      - You just contradicted yourself.  CT_Progressive   Nov-19-07 07:23 PM   #90 
                                      - I will type very slowly so maybe you will get it this time.  proud2Blib   Nov-19-07 07:34 PM   #91 
                                      - Pennys did hold their employee accountable.  CT_Progressive   Nov-19-07 10:22 PM   #94 
                                      - They reprimanded this employee??  proud2Blib   Nov-20-07 06:45 AM   #101 
                                      - Of course they reprimanded the employee.  CT_Progressive   Nov-20-07 08:37 AM   #111 
                    - But WINNING a lawsuit sets a legal precedent.  proud2Blib   Nov-19-07 05:37 PM   #88 
                    - It's called Respondeat Superior.  Perragrande   Nov-19-07 10:18 PM   #93 
                       - Thank you for pirching in with an expert opinion  proud2Blib   Nov-20-07 06:56 AM   #103 
        - I had a similar experience.  KansDem   Nov-19-07 01:15 PM   #41 
           - My husband was rammed by a car that ran a red light  proud2Blib   Nov-19-07 05:27 PM   #86 
        - "store security tape"?  drbtg1   Nov-19-07 02:33 PM   #61 
           - Good catch.  CT_Progressive   Nov-19-07 02:34 PM   #63 
           - And they obviously didn't doctor it to make themselves look innocent.  proud2Blib   Nov-19-07 04:51 PM   #81 
  - Good. Thank you for letting us know both the depth of your social  sfexpat2000   Nov-19-07 01:26 PM   #43 
  - There's a lot of truth in that.  Toucano   Nov-19-07 03:11 PM   #76 
  - 100% in agreement.  QuestionAll   Nov-19-07 11:04 PM   #97 
     - Me, too. :)  mvccd1000   Nov-20-07 12:10 AM   #100 
        - He gave her tag number to the cops  proud2Blib   Nov-20-07 07:06 AM   #104 
           - I understand that.. What I meant was...  mvccd1000   Nov-20-07 08:15 AM   #107 
              - Could be  proud2Blib   Nov-20-07 08:22 AM   #108 
                 - No, to you, that silence indicates guilt without the need for a trial.  CT_Progressive   Nov-20-07 08:39 AM   #112 
                    - Hello???  proud2Blib   Nov-20-07 12:03 PM   #115 
  - My son and two friends were hassled by security at Penneys  SoCalDem   Nov-19-07 12:59 PM   #40 
  - Most Americans are in deep denial about how often these things happen.  sfexpat2000   Nov-19-07 01:31 PM   #44 
  - There was a Black lady here accused of shoplifting at Dillard's  proud2Blib   Nov-19-07 02:06 PM   #50 
  - I am agape at how far people will go to defend violations  sfexpat2000   Nov-19-07 02:31 PM   #59 
  - It's not a matter of defending violations of civil rights.  progressoid   Nov-19-07 02:59 PM   #74 
     - And I am going to argue with you about that  proud2Blib   Nov-19-07 05:32 PM   #87 
     - Thank you for regaling us with your powers of persuasion.  sfexpat2000   Nov-19-07 07:53 PM   #92 
  - Bump! I signed  Liberal_in_LA   Nov-19-07 10:58 PM   #95 
  - If I boycotted every store because of one dumbfuck employee, I'd never buy anything.  Blue-Jay   Nov-19-07 11:05 PM   #98 
  - You took the words right out of my mouth.  Midlodemocrat   Nov-20-07 06:52 AM   #102 
     - Thanks for kicking the thread!  proud2Blib   Nov-20-07 08:29 AM   #109 
  - another embarassing moment in America's hypocritical life  Reno.Muse   Nov-19-07 11:37 PM   #99 
  - Signed, K&R  Neecy   Nov-20-07 07:18 AM   #105 
     - and I'll just add one thing...  Neecy   Nov-20-07 07:33 AM   #106 
        - Thanks Neecy; since you are from the area your support means a lot  proud2Blib   Nov-20-07 08:31 AM   #110 
           - oh, I'm with you all the way  Neecy   Nov-20-07 08:40 AM   #113 
              - A girl my son has been friends with since high school  proud2Blib   Nov-20-07 12:01 PM   #114 
                 - what a horrible story  Neecy   Nov-20-07 02:32 PM   #116 

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