gollygee
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Sat Nov-17-07 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #60 |
| 61. When "personhood" exists |
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is a religious issue. Not necessarily dependent upon a belief in god, but still it's an issue of spirituality. There will never be any kind of consensus upon this. There is something 100% sure though. My uterus belongs to me.
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| -Colorado: one step closer to outlawing abortion (and contraception?) |
MH1 |
Nov-17-07 08:07 AM |
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THE EFFECT WOULD BE OUTLAW IT. |
rodeodance |
Nov-17-07 08:16 AM |
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I tried to get a social security number for my grand fetus |
pwb |
Nov-17-07 08:27 AM |
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Take an exemption for him as well. Maybe you can set up a |
Ilsa |
Nov-17-07 10:13 AM |
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Men vote too and not all men want kids |
katmondoo |
Nov-17-07 08:28 AM |
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From the moment of conception |
SharkSquid |
Nov-17-07 08:29 AM |
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Is the "morning after pill" considered contraception? |
Toots |
Nov-17-07 08:35 AM |
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I would say that the MAP is a form of abortion |
SharkSquid |
Nov-17-07 08:53 AM |
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Framing it as "abortion choice" |
MH1 |
Nov-17-07 09:23 AM |
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What the MAP does |
gollygee |
Nov-17-07 02:47 PM |
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As I said, If a fertilized egg does not implant |
SharkSquid |
Nov-17-07 02:56 PM |
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Read my post again |
gollygee |
Nov-17-07 02:58 PM |
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I was referring to this part. |
SharkSquid |
Nov-17-07 03:02 PM |
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Yes, but no such pill exists |
gollygee |
Nov-17-07 03:03 PM |
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ok...understand that |
SharkSquid |
Nov-17-07 03:04 PM |
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And IUDs |
quantessd |
Nov-17-07 10:19 AM |
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Ok that is abortion then |
SharkSquid |
Nov-17-07 10:36 AM |
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The IUD doesn't destroy anything, it just prevents the fertilized egg from attaching in the uterus. |
quantessd |
Nov-17-07 10:54 AM |
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No that would be a miscarriage |
SharkSquid |
Nov-17-07 11:09 AM |
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Miscarriages are also called spontaneous abortions. |
quantessd |
Nov-17-07 02:28 PM |
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I understand that bet we all know what we are talking about |
SharkSquid |
Nov-17-07 02:51 PM |
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These definitions are only important for people who think a fertilized egg is sacred. |
quantessd |
Nov-17-07 03:07 PM |
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Also important to how you frame the argument against this bill |
SharkSquid |
Nov-17-07 03:10 PM |
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Good point. |
quantessd |
Nov-17-07 03:54 PM |
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IUDs primarily prevent fertilization. |
tofunut |
Nov-17-07 10:57 AM |
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Fertilized egg is different then an unfertilized one |
SharkSquid |
Nov-17-07 11:09 AM |
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And IUDs prevent fertilization. nt |
tofunut |
Nov-17-07 11:19 AM |
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But also could prevent implantation |
SharkSquid |
Nov-17-07 11:21 AM |
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Yup. It prevents pregnancy. |
tofunut |
Nov-17-07 11:31 AM |
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In your opinion no |
SharkSquid |
Nov-17-07 11:37 AM |
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You are confusing facts with opinions. |
tofunut |
Nov-17-07 11:43 AM |
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The IUD doesn't "destroy" anything. |
quantessd |
Nov-17-07 02:35 PM |
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Sounds like a bunch of rationalizing BS to me |
SharkSquid |
Nov-17-07 02:38 PM |
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No. |
tofunut |
Nov-17-07 02:45 PM |
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If you see it that way, then I'm sure there are others who agree. |
quantessd |
Nov-17-07 02:47 PM |
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Huh? |
MH1 |
Nov-17-07 08:50 AM |
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Is that excerpt from the law? |
SharkSquid |
Nov-17-07 08:57 AM |
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The definition of "zygote" is from my high school biology class. |
MH1 |
Nov-17-07 09:08 AM |
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Ok so the latter |
SharkSquid |
Nov-17-07 09:18 AM |
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So, to be clear, do you support the ballot initiative described in the OP? |
MH1 |
Nov-17-07 09:21 AM |
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To be clear I do NOT support this initiative |
SharkSquid |
Nov-17-07 09:43 AM |
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Ah, okay. |
MH1 |
Nov-17-07 10:17 AM |
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I really disagree. |
tofunut |
Nov-17-07 10:32 AM |
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Is there a line for you at all? |
SharkSquid |
Nov-17-07 11:11 AM |
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Can you rephrase? I simply don't know what you're saying. |
tofunut |
Nov-17-07 11:35 AM |
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Exactly |
SharkSquid |
Nov-17-07 11:38 AM |
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What bearing does that have on attempts to make abortion illegal? |
tofunut |
Nov-17-07 11:49 AM |
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Whats the difference between a late term abortion |
SharkSquid |
Nov-17-07 02:54 PM |
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I wonder if these same conservatives consider illegal immigrants people too? |
originalpckelly |
Nov-17-07 08:39 AM |
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What the hell are you talking about |
SharkSquid |
Nov-17-07 08:58 AM |
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I think the poster is drawing attention to perceived hypocrisy, or |
MH1 |
Nov-17-07 09:18 AM |
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Misplaced priorities are the hallmark of republicans. |
quantessd |
Nov-17-07 10:39 AM |
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Well, I agree it's a bit of a tangent |
MH1 |
Nov-17-07 10:43 AM |
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The silly word games people play |
slackmaster |
Nov-17-07 08:59 AM |
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And I was just |
ellie |
Nov-17-07 10:39 AM |
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does that include the right to sue? |
mark414 |
Nov-17-07 11:10 AM |
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How are they going to give a fetus the right to liberty? |
gollygee |
Nov-17-07 11:40 AM |
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? |
SharkSquid |
Nov-17-07 02:39 PM |
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We don't need a law giving that right as it already exists |
gollygee |
Nov-17-07 02:41 PM |
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And there is the question |
SharkSquid |
Nov-17-07 02:52 PM |
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Since it's impossible to define it |
gollygee |
Nov-17-07 03:11 PM |
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Nothing should be impossible |
SharkSquid |
Nov-17-07 03:13 PM |
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When "personhood" exists |
gollygee |
Nov-17-07 03:15 PM |
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You uterus aside...we agree on that |
SharkSquid |
Nov-17-07 03:21 PM |
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Not even a fetus---a fertilized egg! |
quantessd |
Nov-17-07 04:19 PM |
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If you agree that life begins at conception |
SharkSquid |
Nov-18-07 07:04 AM |
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to answer your question, which no one else seems very |
paulk |
Nov-17-07 03:21 PM |
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