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Fri Feb-16-07 03:27 PM
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| 45. It has nothing to do with that |
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This is about stealing Iraq's and Iran's oil even if they kill hundreds of thousands of their citizens.
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| -Why wouldn't Mutually Assured Destruction be enough to protect nuclear Israel from nuclear Iran? |
yurbud |
Feb-16-07 02:45 PM |
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Well, yeah. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-16-07 02:46 PM |
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may I say again the FSM looks like the inside of a scrotum (plus eyes) |
yurbud |
Feb-16-07 02:51 PM |
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It would |
treestar |
Feb-16-07 02:47 PM |
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it's a little more effective to resolve conflict, which is tough when problem is greed on one side |
yurbud |
Feb-16-07 02:52 PM |
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mutually assured destruction doesn't work all that well... |
QuestionAll |
Feb-16-07 02:54 PM |
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Seems to be working with Pakistan and India. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-16-07 02:57 PM |
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Pakistan isn't run by the clergy |
Hippo_Tron |
Feb-16-07 03:01 PM |
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How many countries did that nasty old Ayatollah Khomeni attack??? |
jpak |
Feb-16-07 03:05 PM |
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I think the point is... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-16-07 03:07 PM |
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It has nothing to do with the people, it's their leaders |
Hippo_Tron |
Feb-16-07 07:52 PM |
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Iraq? |
genie_weenie |
Feb-16-07 03:07 PM |
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Oh lord... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-16-07 03:10 PM |
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Iraq invaded Iran - not the other way around |
jpak |
Feb-16-07 03:10 PM |
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Weren't there border clashes and the Grand Ayatollah's |
genie_weenie |
Feb-16-07 03:20 PM |
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Iraq invaded Iran in September 1980 - not the other way around |
jpak |
Feb-16-07 03:29 PM |
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Oh stop with the facts. |
Warren Stupidity |
Feb-16-07 03:33 PM |
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"Dead, dead, dead!" You should see the video of the radarman about the USS Vinc- |
leveymg |
Feb-16-07 03:31 PM |
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Right. It's run by its clergy and its generals and its intelligence service. |
leveymg |
Feb-16-07 03:07 PM |
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I'm aware of how Iran's government works |
Hippo_Tron |
Feb-16-07 07:46 PM |
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Only two major stand-offs in nine years...Super! |
theboss |
Feb-16-07 03:48 PM |
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Works pretty well between Hindu India and Muslim Pakistan |
jpak |
Feb-16-07 02:58 PM |
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Israel has how many people |
genie_weenie |
Feb-16-07 03:02 PM |
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Post-Shah Iran has no history of attacking its neighbors |
jpak |
Feb-16-07 03:08 PM |
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they also have no history of having nukes. |
QuestionAll |
Feb-16-07 03:11 PM |
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And if they had them, they'd use them???? |
jpak |
Feb-16-07 03:15 PM |
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They have chemical and possible biological warheads. They weren't the first to used them during the |
leveymg |
Feb-16-07 03:40 PM |
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Excellent point |
jpak |
Feb-16-07 03:57 PM |
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I don't see the relevancy of your comparison. |
twilight_sailing |
Feb-16-07 03:19 PM |
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Would Pakistan use a nuke knowing that |
genie_weenie |
Feb-16-07 03:24 PM |
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Hypothetical questions |
twilight_sailing |
Feb-16-07 03:26 PM |
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Israel has a survivable nuclear force. |
Warren Stupidity |
Feb-16-07 03:45 PM |
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it's not the number of people that matter but the number of nukes. |
yurbud |
Feb-16-07 05:45 PM |
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Well, no one works their whole life for the good of their nation |
Hobarticus |
Feb-16-07 03:04 PM |
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many experts would seem to disagree... |
QuestionAll |
Feb-16-07 03:06 PM |
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Guess I'm the odd man out, then. |
Hobarticus |
Feb-16-07 03:11 PM |
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Many experts in AEI, PNAC and "other" think tanks and lobby groups |
jpak |
Feb-16-07 03:17 PM |
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or more cynically, no one who worked so hard to get money and power would commit suicide and if they |
yurbud |
Feb-16-07 05:51 PM |
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But it does work well... |
LanternWaste |
Feb-16-07 03:07 PM |
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don't be fooled... |
QuestionAll |
Feb-16-07 03:10 PM |
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Jimmy Carter included? |
DiktatrW |
Feb-16-07 04:29 PM |
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Is that just a statment, or an opinion based on substance? |
LanternWaste |
Feb-16-07 05:54 PM |
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there was a scene from spartacus that it all reminds me of- |
QuestionAll |
Feb-16-07 06:36 PM |
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I didn't know the Jews referred to the Deity as 'allah'. nt. |
Warren Stupidity |
Feb-16-07 03:19 PM |
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is there any historical record of whole countries committing suicide? |
yurbud |
Feb-16-07 05:44 PM |
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See the 2004 Democratic Party Platform for your answer. |
Poll_Blind |
Feb-16-07 02:55 PM |
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the question is would they actually be a threat if they had them or just less bully-able |
yurbud |
Feb-16-07 05:46 PM |
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Less bullyable is my opinion. Some others believe that Ahmadinejad is... |
Poll_Blind |
Feb-16-07 05:57 PM |
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death cult is right up there with al qaeda as something that will turn out to be pure bullshit |
yurbud |
Feb-16-07 09:20 PM |
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are you saying that's reasonable or just the way it is? |
yurbud |
Feb-16-07 05:48 PM |
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Why would Iran nuke Israel in the first place? |
denverbill |
Feb-16-07 02:59 PM |
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Russia has more nukes than we do? |
Emit |
Feb-16-07 02:59 PM |
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Rational = Self-Preservation |
ProfessorGAC |
Feb-16-07 03:13 PM |
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Yes, I agree totally. But, it's to Bush & Co.'s advantage to paint the |
Emit |
Feb-16-07 03:18 PM |
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"Pajamas Media"? Are you series? |
Warren Stupidity |
Feb-16-07 03:23 PM |
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Sometimes |
Emit |
Feb-16-07 03:28 PM |
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Well sure. |
Warren Stupidity |
Feb-16-07 03:32 PM |
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I thought my inference and subsequent comments would suffice. |
Emit |
Feb-16-07 03:46 PM |
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Read about the "Arrow Option", Israelis think their ABM system makes them invulnerable |
leveymg |
Feb-16-07 04:06 PM |
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If there's a suitcase nuke set off, it would have come from Russia |
Hobarticus |
Feb-16-07 03:00 PM |
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More Likely, From Here |
ProfessorGAC |
Feb-16-07 03:12 PM |
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Doesn't have to be a complete nuke... |
Hobarticus |
Feb-16-07 03:28 PM |
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if a suitcase nuke goes off here, the Bushies will blame whoever they please |
yurbud |
Feb-16-07 05:47 PM |
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I do not think |
Amused Musings |
Feb-16-07 03:00 PM |
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Then,Iran would have to be treated like Pakistan -- with a respectful distance |
leveymg |
Feb-16-07 03:01 PM |
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What Khomeini said... |
alofarabia |
Feb-16-07 03:07 PM |
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The association of an entire religion with one particular place is almost unique to Judaism |
leveymg |
Feb-16-07 03:16 PM |
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Khomeini is dead |
yurbud |
Feb-16-07 09:30 PM |
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Nuclear Monopoly vs. MAD... |
Junkdrawer |
Feb-16-07 03:09 PM |
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tenuous? Israel has a conventional advantage over all its neighbors, at least in weapons |
yurbud |
Feb-16-07 05:49 PM |
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Hezbolah in Lebanon...Israel bombed at will from the air, but on the ground... |
Junkdrawer |
Feb-16-07 07:24 PM |
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which is kind of a positive thing. Regardless of tech advantage, it's tough to occupy now |
yurbud |
Feb-16-07 09:19 PM |
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MAD was PR campaign during the "Cold War" marketing campaign |
leftofthedial |
Feb-16-07 03:18 PM |
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It is. nt. |
Warren Stupidity |
Feb-16-07 03:18 PM |
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It has nothing to do with that |
malaise |
Feb-16-07 03:27 PM |
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That too... |
Junkdrawer |
Feb-16-07 03:30 PM |
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Oil wars are ultimate example of "socialize risk & privatize profits" |
yurbud |
Feb-16-07 05:52 PM |
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Bingo n/t |
malaise |
Feb-16-07 06:01 PM |
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Countries use nukes only when they're desperate |
mainer |
Feb-16-07 03:51 PM |
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Actually so far only when they can get away with it. |
Warren Stupidity |
Feb-16-07 06:16 PM |
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Because Pakistan has the bomb..now Iran may have it some day. |
applegrove |
Feb-16-07 05:54 PM |
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because the bigots who want to nuke them tell us they dont care about life |
meow mix |
Feb-16-07 05:58 PM |
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you'd thing 'Guaranteed Self Destruction' would be enough |
sweetheart |
Feb-16-07 06:16 PM |
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There's too many that see it as an incentive, not a deterrent. |
rug |
Feb-16-07 06:42 PM |
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Cuz them Ay-rabs is crazy! Nook a Murcan, get 77 virgins! |
robertpaulsen |
Feb-16-07 07:29 PM |
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I think everybody should have 100 |
yurbud |
Feb-16-07 09:31 PM |
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We shall find out. Its obviously going to happen. |
Jacobin |
Feb-16-07 07:44 PM |
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M.A.D. has an implied understanding that all parties will think rationally |
SoCalDem |
Feb-16-07 09:30 PM |
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