| 211. Yes, yes and yes. Thanks for saying what needed to be said. |
| -On being an ideologicaly pure leftist in the Democratic party. |
MadHound |
Nov-11-07 10:59 AM |
#0 |
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!! |
Faux pas |
Nov-11-07 11:06 AM |
#1 |
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You've really struck a chord for me. I've been utterly baffled at the |
BleedingHeartPatriot |
Nov-11-07 11:07 AM |
#2 |
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Thank you, |
MadHound |
Nov-11-07 11:14 AM |
#6 |
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Contributions by small and medium business are probably the biggest problem |
FarCenter |
Nov-11-07 11:49 AM |
#27 |
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Numerically you're correct |
MadHound |
Nov-11-07 11:51 AM |
#29 |
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And, oh boy, the benefits these corporations reap! |
flblu2 |
Nov-11-07 02:51 PM |
#121 |
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Local businesses may influence local politics - we see it all the |
NCevilDUer |
Nov-11-07 01:13 PM |
#76 |
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Yes, excellent post within an excellet thread. Thanks to all. |
higher class |
Nov-11-07 12:15 PM |
#49 |
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I think Walter Karp in "Liberty Under Siege" concurs |
deutsey |
Nov-11-07 12:24 PM |
#54 |
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"Liberty Under Siege" |
pnorman |
Nov-11-07 04:16 PM |
#157 |
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Hello, Sweetie...they're |
zidzi |
Nov-11-07 12:07 PM |
#42 |
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The Philosophy Of Liberty |
Voice for Peace |
Nov-11-07 12:10 PM |
#47 |
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spineless bastards, that's what they are |
Skittles |
Nov-11-07 09:01 PM |
#193 |
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k&r |
leftchick |
Nov-11-07 11:08 AM |
#3 |
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Bravo! |
stimbox |
Nov-11-07 11:11 AM |
#4 |
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It is not unlike the value of one's friends, imo |
Spazito |
Nov-11-07 11:11 AM |
#5 |
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Rock on Hound Dog! |
burythehatchet |
Nov-11-07 11:14 AM |
#7 |
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hear hear! recommended! |
mike_c |
Nov-11-07 11:16 AM |
#8 |
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Hear, hear! To BOTH your posts! |
scarletwoman |
Nov-11-07 11:38 AM |
#20 |
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Thank you, I appreciate that. |
MadHound |
Nov-11-07 11:46 AM |
#24 |
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"sooner or later I think that one would have to get political again in order to implement it." True, |
scarletwoman |
Nov-11-07 11:57 AM |
#36 |
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I've been hearing people on the left say "build social movements and pay no attention to politicians |
eridani |
Nov-12-07 02:31 AM |
#217 |
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I don't know -- do you see any big social movements happening besides the fundies? |
scarletwoman |
Nov-13-07 07:25 PM |
#256 |
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What we have is a whole bunch of small social movements-- |
eridani |
Nov-13-07 11:41 PM |
#258 |
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"...building a social movement outside of partisan politics." |
mike_c |
Nov-11-07 11:55 AM |
#32 |
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"The corporate-political axis, the military-industrial complex and their pet politicos, have..." |
scarletwoman |
Nov-11-07 12:09 PM |
#46 |
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what if, instead of paying HOA fees, communities paid themselves dividends. |
nashville_brook |
Nov-11-07 12:54 PM |
#64 |
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Hey, anything can happen when people decide to stop giving away their power! |
scarletwoman |
Nov-11-07 01:20 PM |
#85 |
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eggsactly. |
nashville_brook |
Nov-11-07 01:23 PM |
#87 |
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when "doing your thang" creates change -- the personal is political. |
nashville_brook |
Nov-11-07 12:50 PM |
#62 |
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I agree with everything you've said -- "a transformation of our idea and practice of marriage... |
scarletwoman |
Nov-11-07 01:02 PM |
#71 |
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your post has sparked a big discussion here in RT about creating community value... |
nashville_brook |
Nov-11-07 01:11 PM |
#74 |
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"forming communities of production" -- That's EXACTLY the key thing. |
scarletwoman |
Nov-11-07 01:44 PM |
#93 |
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i live in an extreme suburb of orlando -- built on swamp and SPRINGS |
nashville_brook |
Nov-11-07 02:30 PM |
#109 |
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Fascinating about EPCOT. Heh. |
scarletwoman |
Nov-11-07 02:46 PM |
#118 |
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"Decentralized, community-based energy generation from local resources " |
Johnny Noshoes |
Nov-11-07 06:42 PM |
#182 |
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It seems like such an obvious idea. And think of the job-creation aspect of setting up a whole new |
scarletwoman |
Nov-11-07 08:16 PM |
#189 |
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there should be incentives -- if you put energy back into the grid, you should be paid |
nashville_brook |
Nov-11-07 10:57 PM |
#200 |
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ironically |
leftchick |
Nov-11-07 01:46 PM |
#94 |
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"...we need a real socialist movement again in this country." We need a viable Left, for sure. |
scarletwoman |
Nov-11-07 01:56 PM |
#96 |
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no it will not |
leftchick |
Nov-11-07 02:13 PM |
#104 |
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I don't want a revolution, just an evolution. We fight evil through energetic progress in the good. |
scarletwoman |
Nov-11-07 02:25 PM |
#107 |
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werd. |
nashville_brook |
Nov-11-07 02:31 PM |
#110 |
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I think..... |
ProudLiberal7 |
Nov-11-07 02:47 PM |
#119 |
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Yes, both, but you won't have success in the 2nd if you don't build up the 1st, FIRST. (nt) |
scarletwoman |
Nov-11-07 03:02 PM |
#131 |
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I agree....much like what Al Gore has done with global warming. |
loudsue |
Nov-11-07 02:56 PM |
#127 |
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Thank you, and you're correct |
MadHound |
Nov-11-07 11:42 AM |
#22 |
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Enthusiastic K&R |
MN Against Bush |
Nov-11-07 11:18 AM |
#9 |
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Ideological "purity" of any kind |
pscot |
Nov-11-07 11:22 AM |
#10 |
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There is no such thing. Pretending there is and labeling another in such a fashion ... |
TahitiNut |
Nov-11-07 11:58 AM |
#38 |
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Precisely! |
zidzi |
Nov-11-07 01:21 PM |
#86 |
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The neutral term might be "intellectual coherence" |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-11-07 02:43 PM |
#117 |
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Also known as "integrity". And of course, "coherence" implies psychological integration. |
scarletwoman |
Nov-11-07 02:51 PM |
#122 |
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Maybe I am guilty of hyperbole. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-11-07 03:15 PM |
#137 |
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No! Not at all! I just love to play with words, is all. |
scarletwoman |
Nov-11-07 03:39 PM |
#147 |
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Funny you might call it that, considering what the Fecal Fuhrer's minions said. |
TahitiNut |
Nov-11-07 11:20 PM |
#202 |
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Ick! That's 'way too close! |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-11-07 11:38 PM |
#204 |
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I'd say it's an affirmation of what you said. |
TahitiNut |
Nov-11-07 11:59 PM |
#210 |
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Fascinating insight TN. I'm glad you were able to recall it. |
Usrename |
Nov-12-07 04:37 AM |
#225 |
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Yes, this really is happening. Too many people are afraid to look it in the face. (nt) |
scarletwoman |
Nov-13-07 07:27 PM |
#257 |
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K&R |
Kurovski |
Nov-11-07 11:25 AM |
#11 |
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K and R |
MuseRider |
Nov-11-07 11:25 AM |
#12 |
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Hey Muse! |
MadHound |
Nov-11-07 11:39 AM |
#21 |
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Rock Chalk Jayhawk Kaaaaay Uuuuuuu |
MuseRider |
Nov-11-07 01:00 PM |
#70 |
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K&R |
intheflow |
Nov-11-07 11:26 AM |
#13 |
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K&R! |
bonito |
Nov-11-07 11:27 AM |
#14 |
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Well said! |
Hun Joro |
Nov-11-07 11:28 AM |
#15 |
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Kick & Nominated - great post! |
pberq |
Nov-11-07 11:29 AM |
#16 |
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I would suggest that we are all "purists" of one sort or another. |
LWolf |
Nov-11-07 11:31 AM |
#17 |
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So it comes down to, at this point in time, which is more important. |
MadHound |
Nov-11-07 11:35 AM |
#19 |
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The issues always come first. |
LWolf |
Nov-11-07 12:59 PM |
#69 |
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great way to look at it LWolf. |
bbgrunt |
Nov-11-07 07:20 PM |
#186 |
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Well, it's the way that makes the most sense to me, anyway. |
LWolf |
Nov-11-07 08:15 PM |
#188 |
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K&R |
bvar22 |
Nov-11-07 11:33 AM |
#18 |
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Catch the bones? |
creeksneakers2 |
Nov-11-07 11:44 AM |
#23 |
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Frankly, I think that if the party committed to true single payer UHC, |
MadHound |
Nov-11-07 11:49 AM |
#28 |
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Single payer is popular until |
creeksneakers2 |
Nov-11-07 12:09 PM |
#44 |
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Yes, because we all know that people love to pay hundreds of dollars in months in premiums... |
MN Against Bush |
Nov-11-07 12:13 PM |
#48 |
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Lots of people have their employers pay all or most of their |
creeksneakers2 |
Nov-11-07 12:33 PM |
#56 |
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Well people know the current system doesn't work... |
MN Against Bush |
Nov-11-07 12:58 PM |
#68 |
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I'm not posting to endorse or oppose single payer |
creeksneakers2 |
Nov-11-07 01:16 PM |
#79 |
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healthcare is not a "far left" issue |
noiretblu |
Nov-11-07 02:24 PM |
#106 |
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exactly right. far left canada and germany for example... |
tomp |
Nov-11-07 10:02 PM |
#195 |
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No they don't. Do you actually work? |
Warren Stupidity |
Nov-11-07 01:20 PM |
#83 |
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159 million Americans receive health insurance through |
creeksneakers2 |
Nov-11-07 01:53 PM |
#95 |
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And the vast majority of those people pay premiums |
Warren Stupidity |
Nov-11-07 02:11 PM |
#102 |
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There you go again, Warren, injecting facts and figures into the discussion. |
Raster |
Nov-12-07 06:52 AM |
#230 |
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And that insurance might well be worthless |
eridani |
Nov-12-07 02:41 AM |
#219 |
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bull |
lame54 |
Nov-11-07 10:44 PM |
#198 |
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Odd that, as everyone I know HATES their health insurance |
Warren Stupidity |
Nov-11-07 01:13 PM |
#77 |
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Universal single payer does not require anyone to give up their coverage. It covers everyone period. |
Vincardog |
Nov-11-07 01:39 PM |
#92 |
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I'd give up my existing coverage in a heartbeat |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Nov-12-07 04:02 AM |
#222 |
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No it won't; not at all |
eridani |
Nov-12-07 02:37 AM |
#218 |
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The Funny Thing Is |
Me. |
Nov-11-07 11:46 AM |
#25 |
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Yep, you're right |
MadHound |
Nov-11-07 11:53 AM |
#31 |
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Yes, the LW backlash is a bitch. |
intheflow |
Nov-11-07 12:48 PM |
#61 |
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Politicians don't drive the backlash, the people do... |
Virginia Dare |
Nov-11-07 05:34 PM |
#170 |
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Very true. |
intheflow |
Nov-11-07 06:49 PM |
#184 |
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Rep. Kucinich and Sen Edwards seem to have a much greater understanding of the |
BleedingHeartPatriot |
Nov-12-07 07:34 AM |
#233 |
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K&R |
Hatchling |
Nov-11-07 11:48 AM |
#26 |
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Right-O. Aren't you describing the "Democratic Wing" of this party... |
MrMickeysMom |
Nov-11-07 11:52 AM |
#30 |
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Great Post |
fascisthunter |
Nov-11-07 11:55 AM |
#33 |
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nobody is calling "those on the left" ideological purists. |
cali |
Nov-11-07 11:55 AM |
#34 |
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*Sigh* |
MadHound |
Nov-11-07 12:02 PM |
#40 |
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Sorry, we disagree. |
cali |
Nov-11-07 12:35 PM |
#58 |
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Semantic attacks.. |
Virginia Dare |
Nov-11-07 05:41 PM |
#171 |
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Well said. |
MADem |
Nov-12-07 03:56 AM |
#221 |
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Why do you get to define who is left and who isn't? |
EstimatedProphet |
Nov-12-07 09:58 AM |
#239 |
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Describe "Left" cali |
MrMickeysMom |
Nov-11-07 12:15 PM |
#50 |
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I've already given a list of the |
cali |
Nov-11-07 12:39 PM |
#59 |
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Ah, so you're a liberal and progressive with undefinable components therein- |
MrMickeysMom |
Nov-11-07 01:18 PM |
#80 |
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sorry, your post is a bit confusing to me. |
cali |
Nov-11-07 01:33 PM |
#91 |
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Now, I think you are confused... |
MrMickeysMom |
Nov-11-07 02:18 PM |
#105 |
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Do you consider condescension a liberal value? I don't . |
cali |
Nov-11-07 02:33 PM |
#112 |
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Oh brother, what can I say? |
MrMickeysMom |
Nov-11-07 04:01 PM |
#154 |
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I and lame have received many condescending lectures |
lame54 |
Nov-11-07 11:09 PM |
#201 |
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wow. you must have your head in the sand, if not somewhere else... |
bettyellen |
Nov-11-07 12:18 PM |
#52 |
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no. I'm not trying to derail anything. |
cali |
Nov-11-07 12:40 PM |
#60 |
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you seem to be the only one not noticing this RW meme's increasing use by "centrists" here |
bettyellen |
Nov-11-07 01:15 PM |
#78 |
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I don;t adhere to the "everyone else thinks so" and thus it's "true" |
cali |
Nov-11-07 06:44 PM |
#183 |
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speaking strictly for my own personal experience... |
mike_c |
Nov-11-07 12:23 PM |
#53 |
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Thanks for the thoughtful comments. I appreciate them. |
cali |
Nov-11-07 12:56 PM |
#66 |
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Actually, that would be the majority of Democratic Congressmenbers and Senators |
Ken Burch |
Nov-11-07 07:30 PM |
#187 |
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Great post nt |
Yuugal |
Nov-11-07 11:56 AM |
#35 |
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Bravo !!! |
WillyT |
Nov-11-07 11:57 AM |
#37 |
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lmao. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Nov-11-07 12:01 PM |
#39 |
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I totally and completely agree. I also have been an active Dem |
Nay |
Nov-11-07 12:03 PM |
#41 |
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I don't believe is defining ourselves by ideology |
cyclezealot |
Nov-11-07 12:07 PM |
#43 |
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If only one side is compromising, it's not an f'ing compromise |
Gonnabuymeagun |
Nov-11-07 12:09 PM |
#45 |
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Would that I could recommend this post. |
leftist_not_liberal |
Nov-11-07 06:19 PM |
#177 |
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Thank you. I could NOT have said it better myself because I'm mad as hell about what's going on. |
TheGoldenRule |
Nov-11-07 12:17 PM |
#51 |
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Thank you. That fact that someone even needs to lay out what you say |
deutsey |
Nov-11-07 12:31 PM |
#55 |
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knr. |
tekisui |
Nov-11-07 12:33 PM |
#57 |
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What we are seeing, as you said, is people waking up |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-11-07 12:53 PM |
#63 |
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"...that is why some of us are going... fuck party... give me class interest." Hell yeah! |
scarletwoman |
Nov-11-07 02:54 PM |
#125 |
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Great post! |
Usrename |
Nov-11-07 12:56 PM |
#65 |
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Thank you for saying it so eloquently. |
undeterred |
Nov-11-07 12:56 PM |
#67 |
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And we can't call them |
zidzi |
Nov-11-07 01:03 PM |
#72 |
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Adding a rec for ya |
Yael |
Nov-11-07 01:04 PM |
#73 |
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Good points on FDR compromising with those to his left to forge a successful agenda. |
pinto |
Nov-11-07 01:11 PM |
#75 |
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Remember that this all began with Bill Clinton.... |
AntiFascist |
Nov-11-07 01:18 PM |
#81 |
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Verrrrrrr-rrry |
zidzi |
Nov-11-07 01:28 PM |
#90 |
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What a cheeky thread--from the folks who threaten to quit the party on a daily basis. |
Perry Logan |
Nov-11-07 01:19 PM |
#82 |
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You decry progressives for what you call "vicious" attacks, yet then engage in name calling yourself |
MN Against Bush |
Nov-11-07 01:59 PM |
#98 |
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Here, let me turn the other cheek: |
scarletwoman |
Nov-11-07 02:00 PM |
#99 |
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Yet more centrist mischaracterization of progressives... |
AntiFascist |
Nov-11-07 02:05 PM |
#100 |
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Correction: it's more right-wing mischaracterization of centrists |
jgraz |
Nov-11-07 04:18 PM |
#158 |
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I see it more as hawks versus doves... |
AntiFascist |
Nov-11-07 05:15 PM |
#167 |
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Better get used to us speaking out in public... |
PassingFair |
Nov-11-07 02:12 PM |
#103 |
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Well, first of all, if you're getting your impression about anything from the internet, |
MadHound |
Nov-11-07 02:28 PM |
#108 |
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Spot the RIGHT WING MEMES |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-11-07 02:33 PM |
#111 |
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here's another . . . . it's useless to "compromise" with others more left in my own party, |
stranger81 |
Nov-11-07 03:20 PM |
#139 |
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Beat me to it. That's the key to the conservative viewpoint here on DU |
jgraz |
Nov-11-07 04:33 PM |
#161 |
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Yeah, let's just allow our party to take the country's needs for granted. |
HughBeaumont |
Nov-12-07 09:59 AM |
#240 |
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I'm a socialist willing to compromise with leftist progressives |
GeneCosta |
Nov-11-07 01:20 PM |
#84 |
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Welcome to DU |
jgraz |
Nov-11-07 04:35 PM |
#162 |
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Good to see another genuine leftist speaking up |
leftist_not_liberal |
Nov-11-07 06:20 PM |
#178 |
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I have to admit that |
cuke |
Nov-11-07 01:23 PM |
#88 |
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LOL! I knew that I intrigued you, and that you couldn't bear to keep me on ignore. |
MadHound |
Nov-11-07 02:50 PM |
#120 |
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Thanks for the response |
cuke |
Nov-11-07 02:57 PM |
#128 |
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Good move. You need to take Common Sense in small doses until your system adjusts to it |
jgraz |
Nov-11-07 04:37 PM |
#163 |
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deleted |
cuke |
Nov-11-07 02:54 PM |
#124 |
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You speak for me and a lot of other folks on the left. |
Steve_DeShazer |
Nov-11-07 01:26 PM |
#89 |
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Kick (nm) |
lynyrd_skynyrd |
Nov-11-07 01:56 PM |
#97 |
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Ideological Purity? |
bluriley |
Nov-11-07 02:10 PM |
#101 |
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This is an outstanding post, but, I won't even except bones anymore. |
rainy |
Nov-11-07 02:35 PM |
#113 |
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K and R. n/t |
rainy |
Nov-11-07 02:36 PM |
#114 |
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I think "ideologue" is a fair criticism of many here. Take impeachment. |
BullGooseLoony |
Nov-11-07 02:36 PM |
#115 |
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wow! you couldn't be more wrong. |
tomp |
Nov-11-07 11:53 PM |
#208 |
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LOL...patently stupid, eh? |
BullGooseLoony |
Nov-12-07 12:34 AM |
#214 |
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Uh, oh...you're in trouble now!!! |
MADem |
Nov-12-07 04:06 AM |
#223 |
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this post just as stupid as your last. |
tomp |
Nov-12-07 06:03 PM |
#253 |
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What You're Totally... |
datavg |
Nov-11-07 02:41 PM |
#116 |
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we are all missing the point. "Truth has a well known liberal bias" says |
rainy |
Nov-11-07 02:53 PM |
#123 |
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Actually the country has begun a leftward lurch |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-11-07 03:00 PM |
#129 |
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I agree and I think it's because of how easy it is to get information these days. |
rainy |
Nov-11-07 03:09 PM |
#134 |
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but greens are getting elected |
noiretblu |
Nov-11-07 03:09 PM |
#133 |
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Steven Colbert? |
datavg |
Nov-11-07 03:19 PM |
#138 |
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Colbert's not a news professional? |
Tinman |
Nov-11-07 03:37 PM |
#145 |
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The Mere Fact... |
datavg |
Nov-11-07 03:47 PM |
#150 |
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No one ever said Colbert was a real journalist. |
Tinman |
Nov-11-07 03:53 PM |
#152 |
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So, let me get this straight: you're hoping someone calls a hit on Kucinich? |
scarletwoman |
Nov-11-07 03:44 PM |
#149 |
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I'm Hoping... |
datavg |
Nov-11-07 03:52 PM |
#151 |
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Ah, the Wall Street Democrats. That is pretty much what this thread is about, you see. |
scarletwoman |
Nov-11-07 04:06 PM |
#156 |
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Yep... |
datavg |
Nov-11-07 05:20 PM |
#168 |
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It won't be the fault of leftists if the Dems lose the House. WE're the ones who keep urging them |
scarletwoman |
Nov-11-07 05:59 PM |
#174 |
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There is a third alternative |
MadHound |
Nov-11-07 07:07 PM |
#185 |
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You play a lousy game |
kenfrequed |
Nov-12-07 11:57 AM |
#249 |
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To expand. |
kenfrequed |
Nov-12-07 12:56 PM |
#250 |
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who the fuck is steven colbert????? |
tomp |
Nov-11-07 11:58 PM |
#209 |
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So, why did the city of Cleveland give him an award for saving public power? n/t |
eridani |
Nov-12-07 02:58 AM |
#220 |
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Uhm |
kenfrequed |
Nov-12-07 11:31 AM |
#248 |
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I just don't see the country being more conservative |
Tinman |
Nov-11-07 03:30 PM |
#143 |
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Fair Argument. It Seems... |
datavg |
Nov-11-07 03:36 PM |
#144 |
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Most of the Santa Monica city council wear the badges of libralism |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-12-07 11:06 AM |
#247 |
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ideological integrity, anyone? |
noiretblu |
Nov-11-07 02:55 PM |
#126 |
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Oh, beautiful! Excellently said! Brava! |
scarletwoman |
Nov-11-07 03:11 PM |
#135 |
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hey there!!! great to see you |
noiretblu |
Nov-11-07 03:15 PM |
#136 |
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Well, it's really a treat to see you, and I totally understand about necessary "limits". |
scarletwoman |
Nov-11-07 03:54 PM |
#153 |
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Is it any surprise that I wholeheartedly agree with you? |
TahitiNut |
Nov-11-07 11:33 PM |
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please these corporate PAID posters are just whores |
natrat |
Nov-11-07 03:02 PM |
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I get the feeling that |
femrap |
Nov-11-07 03:08 PM |
#132 |
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You blame the Democratic party, okay then. |
zalinda |
Nov-11-07 03:23 PM |
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what would you call people who vote for |
noiretblu |
Nov-11-07 03:41 PM |
#148 |
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No, I wouldn't call them ideologues |
zalinda |
Nov-11-07 04:58 PM |
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i don't understand your characterization...is kucinich "the perfect candidate"? |
noiretblu |
Nov-11-07 06:14 PM |
#176 |
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my thoughts exactly |
lame54 |
Nov-11-07 11:43 PM |
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Fantastic post, and crystallizes much of divide on this board. |
stranger81 |
Nov-11-07 03:25 PM |
#141 |
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Just about to leave this community... |
Stuckinthebush |
Nov-11-07 03:27 PM |
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Of course there's still leftists on this board -- did you see this 1068-vote DU poll? |
scarletwoman |
Nov-11-07 04:22 PM |
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That is uplifting..you are correct about that |
Stuckinthebush |
Nov-11-07 06:24 PM |
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I believe they are more vocal and I think there's a reason for that... |
calipendence |
Nov-12-07 10:49 AM |
#245 |
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Oh please, don't leave |
MadHound |
Nov-11-07 04:26 PM |
#160 |
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I'm sticking around... |
Stuckinthebush |
Nov-11-07 06:26 PM |
#180 |
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It's actually good to see you, |
MadHound |
Nov-11-07 09:58 PM |
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I just lurk mostly now |
Stuckinthebush |
Nov-11-07 10:53 PM |
#199 |
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Phil Ochs |
T.Ruth2power |
Nov-11-07 03:39 PM |
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Excellent post. |
watrwefitinfor |
Nov-12-07 06:41 AM |
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K&R!!!!!!!! |
pnorman |
Nov-11-07 04:03 PM |
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"it may not only cost the Dems the election next fall, it might cost the party its very existence" |
omega minimo |
Nov-11-07 04:39 PM |
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Thank you for so eloquently putting into words my own frustrations |
Lorien |
Nov-11-07 04:54 PM |
#165 |
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Well, folks can say I cut my hair around a bowl and call me Judge Bradshaw for all I care, |
nealmhughes |
Nov-11-07 05:22 PM |
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Wonderful post! It's very much the same dynamic as "battered wife syndrome", imho. |
scarletwoman |
Nov-11-07 05:49 PM |
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yeah, but moderate dems are coporatists at heart |
idgiehkt |
Nov-11-07 10:14 PM |
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Everyone I know who was in on the Kucinich campaign in Minnesota in 2004 |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Nov-11-07 05:59 PM |
#173 |
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The same people who say leftists should compromise |
leftist_not_liberal |
Nov-11-07 06:07 PM |
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YOU need to wake up |
iamthebandfanman |
Nov-12-07 10:01 AM |
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I don't know about ideological purity... |
magellan |
Nov-11-07 06:32 PM |
#181 |
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If you block walk as much as you write... |
johncoby2 |
Nov-11-07 08:37 PM |
#190 |
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Vichy Democrats = Surrender Monkeys |
dpbrown |
Nov-11-07 08:52 PM |
#191 |
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100 Recs! |
greyhound1966 |
Nov-11-07 08:56 PM |
#192 |
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well said |
idgiehkt |
Nov-11-07 10:10 PM |
#196 |
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AMEN |
drmeow |
Nov-11-07 11:39 PM |
#205 |
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DLC strategy is to ignore the base |
OzarkDem |
Nov-11-07 11:42 PM |
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Yes, yes and yes. Thanks for saying what needed to be said. |
kelligesq |
Nov-12-07 12:04 AM |
#211 |
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Let me tell you what my old man said about 1932. |
Perragrande |
Nov-12-07 12:23 AM |
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Democratic Luther? |
drmeow |
Nov-12-07 12:28 AM |
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Thank you. What a breath of fresh air. I've seen that "purist" label bandied about like that here |
Seabiscuit |
Nov-12-07 01:26 AM |
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k+r |
Progs Rock |
Nov-12-07 01:34 AM |
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Cheers to you |
sss1977 |
Nov-12-07 04:22 AM |
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have you noticed the dems moving to the Left as of late? |
Enrique |
Nov-12-07 05:30 AM |
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No actually I've seen them continue to move towards the right, |
MadHound |
Nov-12-07 08:48 AM |
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I think they're moving away from free trade |
Enrique |
Nov-12-07 10:41 AM |
#243 |
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After Watching The Party Abdicate Responsibility For The Vote |
lostnotforgotten |
Nov-12-07 05:50 AM |
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Excellent! |
Le Taz Hot |
Nov-12-07 06:38 AM |
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Great Post. The Dermocratioc party has shifted to the right too often |
Armstead |
Nov-12-07 06:57 AM |
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the "ideological left" that we occupy these days . . . |
OneBlueSky |
Nov-12-07 07:29 AM |
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You would think that wtih so much at stake . . . |
HughBeaumont |
Nov-12-07 08:01 AM |
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IF I WERE ANY MORE ON THE LEFT....I'D BE ON THE RIGHT |
happygoluckytoyou |
Nov-12-07 08:50 AM |
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You're not wrong but.. |
Finite |
Nov-12-07 09:17 AM |
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It's not a contest between left and right. |
amb123 |
Nov-12-07 09:20 AM |
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I totally agree. The left/right, red/blue, demo/repub are distractions from the real issue that u |
rhett o rick |
Nov-12-07 10:49 AM |
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Here is why I desire left. (I'm not sure where to post this) |
Gregorian |
Nov-12-07 10:35 AM |
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Great post. But pleez help me out. What issues do leftists support that centralist don't. |
rhett o rick |
Nov-12-07 10:57 AM |
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You are aware of the fact that change is incremental, right? |
EstimatedProphet |
Nov-12-07 04:49 PM |
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I would say the republicans failed because they pushed MINORITY |
angstlessk |
Nov-12-07 05:09 PM |
#252 |
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Nope |
EstimatedProphet |
Nov-12-07 08:52 PM |
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Moderates show spine when they stand up to far left and represent the center |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-13-07 10:12 AM |
#255 |