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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 04:37 PM
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163. Good move. You need to take Common Sense in small doses until your system adjusts to it
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  -On being an ideologicaly pure leftist in the Democratic party. MadHound  Nov-11-07 10:59 AM   #0 
  - !!  Faux pas   Nov-11-07 11:06 AM   #1 
  - You've really struck a chord for me. I've been utterly baffled at the  BleedingHeartPatriot   Nov-11-07 11:07 AM   #2 
  - Thank you,  MadHound   Nov-11-07 11:14 AM   #6 
  - Contributions by small and medium business are probably the biggest problem  FarCenter   Nov-11-07 11:49 AM   #27 
  - Numerically you're correct  MadHound   Nov-11-07 11:51 AM   #29 
  - And, oh boy, the benefits these corporations reap!  flblu2   Nov-11-07 02:51 PM   #121 
  - Local businesses may influence local politics - we see it all the  NCevilDUer   Nov-11-07 01:13 PM   #76 
  - Yes, excellent post within an excellet thread. Thanks to all.  higher class   Nov-11-07 12:15 PM   #49 
  - I think Walter Karp in "Liberty Under Siege" concurs  deutsey   Nov-11-07 12:24 PM   #54 
     - "Liberty Under Siege"  pnorman   Nov-11-07 04:16 PM   #157 
  - Hello, Sweetie...they're  zidzi   Nov-11-07 12:07 PM   #42 
  - The Philosophy Of Liberty  Voice for Peace   Nov-11-07 12:10 PM   #47 
  - spineless bastards, that's what they are  Skittles   Nov-11-07 09:01 PM   #193 
  - k&r  leftchick   Nov-11-07 11:08 AM   #3 
  - Bravo!  stimbox   Nov-11-07 11:11 AM   #4 
  - It is not unlike the value of one's friends, imo  Spazito   Nov-11-07 11:11 AM   #5 
  - Rock on Hound Dog!  burythehatchet   Nov-11-07 11:14 AM   #7 
  - hear hear! recommended!  mike_c   Nov-11-07 11:16 AM   #8 
  - Hear, hear! To BOTH your posts!  scarletwoman   Nov-11-07 11:38 AM   #20 
  - Thank you, I appreciate that.  MadHound   Nov-11-07 11:46 AM   #24 
  - "sooner or later I think that one would have to get political again in order to implement it." True,  scarletwoman   Nov-11-07 11:57 AM   #36 
  - I've been hearing people on the left say "build social movements and pay no attention to politicians  eridani   Nov-12-07 02:31 AM   #217 
     - I don't know -- do you see any big social movements happening besides the fundies?  scarletwoman   Nov-13-07 07:25 PM   #256 
        - What we have is a whole bunch of small social movements--  eridani   Nov-13-07 11:41 PM   #258 
  - "...building a social movement outside of partisan politics."  mike_c   Nov-11-07 11:55 AM   #32 
  - "The corporate-political axis, the military-industrial complex and their pet politicos, have..."  scarletwoman   Nov-11-07 12:09 PM   #46 
     - what if, instead of paying HOA fees, communities paid themselves dividends.  nashville_brook   Nov-11-07 12:54 PM   #64 
        - Hey, anything can happen when people decide to stop giving away their power!  scarletwoman   Nov-11-07 01:20 PM   #85 
           - eggsactly.  nashville_brook   Nov-11-07 01:23 PM   #87 
  - when "doing your thang" creates change -- the personal is political.  nashville_brook   Nov-11-07 12:50 PM   #62 
  - I agree with everything you've said -- "a transformation of our idea and practice of marriage...  scarletwoman   Nov-11-07 01:02 PM   #71 
     - your post has sparked a big discussion here in RT about creating community value...  nashville_brook   Nov-11-07 01:11 PM   #74 
     - "forming communities of production" -- That's EXACTLY the key thing.  scarletwoman   Nov-11-07 01:44 PM   #93 
        - i live in an extreme suburb of orlando -- built on swamp and SPRINGS  nashville_brook   Nov-11-07 02:30 PM   #109 
           - Fascinating about EPCOT. Heh.  scarletwoman   Nov-11-07 02:46 PM   #118 
     - "Decentralized, community-based energy generation from local resources "  Johnny Noshoes   Nov-11-07 06:42 PM   #182 
        - It seems like such an obvious idea. And think of the job-creation aspect of setting up a whole new  scarletwoman   Nov-11-07 08:16 PM   #189 
        - there should be incentives -- if you put energy back into the grid, you should be paid  nashville_brook   Nov-11-07 10:57 PM   #200 
  - ironically  leftchick   Nov-11-07 01:46 PM   #94 
  - "...we need a real socialist movement again in this country." We need a viable Left, for sure.  scarletwoman   Nov-11-07 01:56 PM   #96 
     - no it will not  leftchick   Nov-11-07 02:13 PM   #104 
        - I don't want a revolution, just an evolution. We fight evil through energetic progress in the good.  scarletwoman   Nov-11-07 02:25 PM   #107 
           - werd.  nashville_brook   Nov-11-07 02:31 PM   #110 
  - I think.....  ProudLiberal7   Nov-11-07 02:47 PM   #119 
  - Yes, both, but you won't have success in the 2nd if you don't build up the 1st, FIRST. (nt)  scarletwoman   Nov-11-07 03:02 PM   #131 
  - I agree....much like what Al Gore has done with global warming.  loudsue   Nov-11-07 02:56 PM   #127 
  - Thank you, and you're correct  MadHound   Nov-11-07 11:42 AM   #22 
  - Enthusiastic K&R  MN Against Bush   Nov-11-07 11:18 AM   #9 
  - Ideological "purity" of any kind  pscot   Nov-11-07 11:22 AM   #10 
  - There is no such thing. Pretending there is and labeling another in such a fashion ...  TahitiNut   Nov-11-07 11:58 AM   #38 
     - Precisely!  zidzi   Nov-11-07 01:21 PM   #86 
     - The neutral term might be "intellectual coherence"  sfexpat2000   Nov-11-07 02:43 PM   #117 
        - Also known as "integrity". And of course, "coherence" implies psychological integration.  scarletwoman   Nov-11-07 02:51 PM   #122 
        - Maybe I am guilty of hyperbole.  sfexpat2000   Nov-11-07 03:15 PM   #137 
           - No! Not at all! I just love to play with words, is all.  scarletwoman   Nov-11-07 03:39 PM   #147 
        - Funny you might call it that, considering what the Fecal Fuhrer's minions said.  TahitiNut   Nov-11-07 11:20 PM   #202 
           - Ick! That's 'way too close!  sfexpat2000   Nov-11-07 11:38 PM   #204 
              - I'd say it's an affirmation of what you said.  TahitiNut   Nov-11-07 11:59 PM   #210 
                 - Fascinating insight TN. I'm glad you were able to recall it.  Usrename   Nov-12-07 04:37 AM   #225 
                    - Yes, this really is happening. Too many people are afraid to look it in the face. (nt)  scarletwoman   Nov-13-07 07:27 PM   #257 
  - K&R  Kurovski   Nov-11-07 11:25 AM   #11 
  - K and R  MuseRider   Nov-11-07 11:25 AM   #12 
  - Hey Muse!  MadHound   Nov-11-07 11:39 AM   #21 
     - Rock Chalk Jayhawk Kaaaaay Uuuuuuu  MuseRider   Nov-11-07 01:00 PM   #70 
  - K&R  intheflow   Nov-11-07 11:26 AM   #13 
  - K&R!  bonito   Nov-11-07 11:27 AM   #14 
  - Well said!  Hun Joro   Nov-11-07 11:28 AM   #15 
  - Kick & Nominated - great post!  pberq   Nov-11-07 11:29 AM   #16 
  - I would suggest that we are all "purists" of one sort or another.  LWolf   Nov-11-07 11:31 AM   #17 
  - So it comes down to, at this point in time, which is more important.  MadHound   Nov-11-07 11:35 AM   #19 
  - The issues always come first.  LWolf   Nov-11-07 12:59 PM   #69 
  - great way to look at it LWolf.  bbgrunt   Nov-11-07 07:20 PM   #186 
     - Well, it's the way that makes the most sense to me, anyway.  LWolf   Nov-11-07 08:15 PM   #188 
  - K&R  bvar22   Nov-11-07 11:33 AM   #18 
  - Catch the bones?  creeksneakers2   Nov-11-07 11:44 AM   #23 
  - Frankly, I think that if the party committed to true single payer UHC,  MadHound   Nov-11-07 11:49 AM   #28 
     - Single payer is popular until  creeksneakers2   Nov-11-07 12:09 PM   #44 
     - Yes, because we all know that people love to pay hundreds of dollars in months in premiums...  MN Against Bush   Nov-11-07 12:13 PM   #48 
     - Lots of people have their employers pay all or most of their  creeksneakers2   Nov-11-07 12:33 PM   #56 
        - Well people know the current system doesn't work...  MN Against Bush   Nov-11-07 12:58 PM   #68 
        - I'm not posting to endorse or oppose single payer  creeksneakers2   Nov-11-07 01:16 PM   #79 
           - healthcare is not a "far left" issue  noiretblu   Nov-11-07 02:24 PM   #106 
              - exactly right. far left canada and germany for example...  tomp   Nov-11-07 10:02 PM   #195 
        - No they don't. Do you actually work?  Warren Stupidity   Nov-11-07 01:20 PM   #83 
        - 159 million Americans receive health insurance through  creeksneakers2   Nov-11-07 01:53 PM   #95 
           - And the vast majority of those people pay premiums  Warren Stupidity   Nov-11-07 02:11 PM   #102 
           - There you go again, Warren, injecting facts and figures into the discussion.  Raster   Nov-12-07 06:52 AM   #230 
           - And that insurance might well be worthless  eridani   Nov-12-07 02:41 AM   #219 
        - bull  lame54   Nov-11-07 10:44 PM   #198 
     - Odd that, as everyone I know HATES their health insurance  Warren Stupidity   Nov-11-07 01:13 PM   #77 
     - Universal single payer does not require anyone to give up their coverage. It covers everyone period.  Vincardog   Nov-11-07 01:39 PM   #92 
     - I'd give up my existing coverage in a heartbeat  Lydia Leftcoast   Nov-12-07 04:02 AM   #222 
     - No it won't; not at all  eridani   Nov-12-07 02:37 AM   #218 
  - The Funny Thing Is  Me.   Nov-11-07 11:46 AM   #25 
  - Yep, you're right  MadHound   Nov-11-07 11:53 AM   #31 
  - Yes, the LW backlash is a bitch.  intheflow   Nov-11-07 12:48 PM   #61 
     - Politicians don't drive the backlash, the people do...  Virginia Dare   Nov-11-07 05:34 PM   #170 
        - Very true.  intheflow   Nov-11-07 06:49 PM   #184 
           - Rep. Kucinich and Sen Edwards seem to have a much greater understanding of the  BleedingHeartPatriot   Nov-12-07 07:34 AM   #233 
  - K&R  Hatchling   Nov-11-07 11:48 AM   #26 
  - Right-O. Aren't you describing the "Democratic Wing" of this party...  MrMickeysMom   Nov-11-07 11:52 AM   #30 
  - Great Post  fascisthunter   Nov-11-07 11:55 AM   #33 
  - nobody is calling "those on the left" ideological purists.  cali   Nov-11-07 11:55 AM   #34 
  - *Sigh*  MadHound   Nov-11-07 12:02 PM   #40 
  - Sorry, we disagree.  cali   Nov-11-07 12:35 PM   #58 
  - Semantic attacks..  Virginia Dare   Nov-11-07 05:41 PM   #171 
  - Well said.  MADem   Nov-12-07 03:56 AM   #221 
  - Why do you get to define who is left and who isn't?  EstimatedProphet   Nov-12-07 09:58 AM   #239 
  - Describe "Left" cali  MrMickeysMom   Nov-11-07 12:15 PM   #50 
  - I've already given a list of the  cali   Nov-11-07 12:39 PM   #59 
     - Ah, so you're a liberal and progressive with undefinable components therein-  MrMickeysMom   Nov-11-07 01:18 PM   #80 
        - sorry, your post is a bit confusing to me.  cali   Nov-11-07 01:33 PM   #91 
           - Now, I think you are confused...  MrMickeysMom   Nov-11-07 02:18 PM   #105 
              - Do you consider condescension a liberal value? I don't .  cali   Nov-11-07 02:33 PM   #112 
                 - Oh brother, what can I say?  MrMickeysMom   Nov-11-07 04:01 PM   #154 
                 - I and lame have received many condescending lectures  lame54   Nov-11-07 11:09 PM   #201 
  - wow. you must have your head in the sand, if not somewhere else...  bettyellen   Nov-11-07 12:18 PM   #52 
  - no. I'm not trying to derail anything.  cali   Nov-11-07 12:40 PM   #60 
     - you seem to be the only one not noticing this RW meme's increasing use by "centrists" here  bettyellen   Nov-11-07 01:15 PM   #78 
        - I don;t adhere to the "everyone else thinks so" and thus it's "true"  cali   Nov-11-07 06:44 PM   #183 
  - speaking strictly for my own personal experience...  mike_c   Nov-11-07 12:23 PM   #53 
  - Thanks for the thoughtful comments. I appreciate them.  cali   Nov-11-07 12:56 PM   #66 
  - Actually, that would be the majority of Democratic Congressmenbers and Senators  Ken Burch   Nov-11-07 07:30 PM   #187 
  - Great post nt  Yuugal   Nov-11-07 11:56 AM   #35 
  - Bravo !!!  WillyT   Nov-11-07 11:57 AM   #37 
  - lmao. nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-11-07 12:01 PM   #39 
  - I totally and completely agree. I also have been an active Dem  Nay   Nov-11-07 12:03 PM   #41 
  - I don't believe is defining ourselves by ideology  cyclezealot   Nov-11-07 12:07 PM   #43 
  - If only one side is compromising, it's not an f'ing compromise  Gonnabuymeagun   Nov-11-07 12:09 PM   #45 
  - Would that I could recommend this post.  leftist_not_liberal   Nov-11-07 06:19 PM   #177 
  - Thank you. I could NOT have said it better myself because I'm mad as hell about what's going on.  TheGoldenRule   Nov-11-07 12:17 PM   #51 
  - Thank you. That fact that someone even needs to lay out what you say  deutsey   Nov-11-07 12:31 PM   #55 
  - knr.  tekisui   Nov-11-07 12:33 PM   #57 
  - What we are seeing, as you said, is people waking up  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-11-07 12:53 PM   #63 
  - "...that is why some of us are going... fuck party... give me class interest." Hell yeah!  scarletwoman   Nov-11-07 02:54 PM   #125 
  - Great post!  Usrename   Nov-11-07 12:56 PM   #65 
  - Thank you for saying it so eloquently.  undeterred   Nov-11-07 12:56 PM   #67 
  - And we can't call them  zidzi   Nov-11-07 01:03 PM   #72 
  - Adding a rec for ya  Yael   Nov-11-07 01:04 PM   #73 
  - Good points on FDR compromising with those to his left to forge a successful agenda.  pinto   Nov-11-07 01:11 PM   #75 
  - Remember that this all began with Bill Clinton....  AntiFascist   Nov-11-07 01:18 PM   #81 
  - Verrrrrrr-rrry  zidzi   Nov-11-07 01:28 PM   #90 
  - What a cheeky thread--from the folks who threaten to quit the party on a daily basis.  Perry Logan   Nov-11-07 01:19 PM   #82 
  - You decry progressives for what you call "vicious" attacks, yet then engage in name calling yourself  MN Against Bush   Nov-11-07 01:59 PM   #98 
  - Here, let me turn the other cheek:  scarletwoman   Nov-11-07 02:00 PM   #99 
  - Yet more centrist mischaracterization of progressives...  AntiFascist   Nov-11-07 02:05 PM   #100 
  - Correction: it's more right-wing mischaracterization of centrists  jgraz   Nov-11-07 04:18 PM   #158 
     - I see it more as hawks versus doves...  AntiFascist   Nov-11-07 05:15 PM   #167 
  - Better get used to us speaking out in public...  PassingFair   Nov-11-07 02:12 PM   #103 
  - Well, first of all, if you're getting your impression about anything from the internet,  MadHound   Nov-11-07 02:28 PM   #108 
  - Spot the RIGHT WING MEMES  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-11-07 02:33 PM   #111 
  - here's another . . . . it's useless to "compromise" with others more left in my own party,  stranger81   Nov-11-07 03:20 PM   #139 
     - Beat me to it. That's the key to the conservative viewpoint here on DU  jgraz   Nov-11-07 04:33 PM   #161 
  - Yeah, let's just allow our party to take the country's needs for granted.  HughBeaumont   Nov-12-07 09:59 AM   #240 
  - I'm a socialist willing to compromise with leftist progressives  GeneCosta   Nov-11-07 01:20 PM   #84 
  - Welcome to DU  jgraz   Nov-11-07 04:35 PM   #162 
  - Good to see another genuine leftist speaking up  leftist_not_liberal   Nov-11-07 06:20 PM   #178 
  - I have to admit that  cuke   Nov-11-07 01:23 PM   #88 
  - LOL! I knew that I intrigued you, and that you couldn't bear to keep me on ignore.  MadHound   Nov-11-07 02:50 PM   #120 
  - Thanks for the response  cuke   Nov-11-07 02:57 PM   #128 
     - Good move. You need to take Common Sense in small doses until your system adjusts to it  jgraz   Nov-11-07 04:37 PM   #163 
  - deleted  cuke   Nov-11-07 02:54 PM   #124 
  - You speak for me and a lot of other folks on the left.  Steve_DeShazer   Nov-11-07 01:26 PM   #89 
  - Kick (nm)  lynyrd_skynyrd   Nov-11-07 01:56 PM   #97 
  - Ideological Purity?  bluriley   Nov-11-07 02:10 PM   #101 
  - This is an outstanding post, but, I won't even except bones anymore.  rainy   Nov-11-07 02:35 PM   #113 
  - K and R. n/t  rainy   Nov-11-07 02:36 PM   #114 
  - I think "ideologue" is a fair criticism of many here. Take impeachment.  BullGooseLoony   Nov-11-07 02:36 PM   #115 
  - wow! you couldn't be more wrong.  tomp   Nov-11-07 11:53 PM   #208 
     - LOL...patently stupid, eh?  BullGooseLoony   Nov-12-07 12:34 AM   #214 
        - Uh, oh...you're in trouble now!!!  MADem   Nov-12-07 04:06 AM   #223 
        - this post just as stupid as your last.  tomp   Nov-12-07 06:03 PM   #253 
  - What You're Totally...  datavg   Nov-11-07 02:41 PM   #116 
  - we are all missing the point. "Truth has a well known liberal bias" says  rainy   Nov-11-07 02:53 PM   #123 
  - Actually the country has begun a leftward lurch  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-11-07 03:00 PM   #129 
  - I agree and I think it's because of how easy it is to get information these days.  rainy   Nov-11-07 03:09 PM   #134 
  - but greens are getting elected  noiretblu   Nov-11-07 03:09 PM   #133 
  - Steven Colbert?  datavg   Nov-11-07 03:19 PM   #138 
     - Colbert's not a news professional?  Tinman   Nov-11-07 03:37 PM   #145 
     - The Mere Fact...  datavg   Nov-11-07 03:47 PM   #150 
        - No one ever said Colbert was a real journalist.  Tinman   Nov-11-07 03:53 PM   #152 
     - So, let me get this straight: you're hoping someone calls a hit on Kucinich?  scarletwoman   Nov-11-07 03:44 PM   #149 
     - I'm Hoping...  datavg   Nov-11-07 03:52 PM   #151 
        - Ah, the Wall Street Democrats. That is pretty much what this thread is about, you see.  scarletwoman   Nov-11-07 04:06 PM   #156 
           - Yep...  datavg   Nov-11-07 05:20 PM   #168 
              - It won't be the fault of leftists if the Dems lose the House. WE're the ones who keep urging them  scarletwoman   Nov-11-07 05:59 PM   #174 
              - There is a third alternative  MadHound   Nov-11-07 07:07 PM   #185 
              - You play a lousy game  kenfrequed   Nov-12-07 11:57 AM   #249 
                 - To expand.  kenfrequed   Nov-12-07 12:56 PM   #250 
     - who the fuck is steven colbert?????  tomp   Nov-11-07 11:58 PM   #209 
     - So, why did the city of Cleveland give him an award for saving public power? n/t  eridani   Nov-12-07 02:58 AM   #220 
     - Uhm  kenfrequed   Nov-12-07 11:31 AM   #248 
  - I just don't see the country being more conservative  Tinman   Nov-11-07 03:30 PM   #143 
  - Fair Argument. It Seems...  datavg   Nov-11-07 03:36 PM   #144 
  - Most of the Santa Monica city council wear the badges of libralism  sfexpat2000   Nov-12-07 11:06 AM   #247 
  - ideological integrity, anyone?  noiretblu   Nov-11-07 02:55 PM   #126 
  - Oh, beautiful! Excellently said! Brava!  scarletwoman   Nov-11-07 03:11 PM   #135 
  - hey there!!! great to see you  noiretblu   Nov-11-07 03:15 PM   #136 
     - Well, it's really a treat to see you, and I totally understand about necessary "limits".  scarletwoman   Nov-11-07 03:54 PM   #153 
  - Is it any surprise that I wholeheartedly agree with you?  TahitiNut   Nov-11-07 11:33 PM   #203 
  - please these corporate PAID posters are just whores  natrat   Nov-11-07 03:02 PM   #130 
  - I get the feeling that  femrap   Nov-11-07 03:08 PM   #132 
  - You blame the Democratic party, okay then.  zalinda   Nov-11-07 03:23 PM   #140 
  - what would you call people who vote for  noiretblu   Nov-11-07 03:41 PM   #148 
     - No, I wouldn't call them ideologues  zalinda   Nov-11-07 04:58 PM   #166 
     - i don't understand your characterization...is kucinich "the perfect candidate"?  noiretblu   Nov-11-07 06:14 PM   #176 
     - my thoughts exactly  lame54   Nov-11-07 11:43 PM   #207 
  - Fantastic post, and crystallizes much of divide on this board.  stranger81   Nov-11-07 03:25 PM   #141 
  - Just about to leave this community...  Stuckinthebush   Nov-11-07 03:27 PM   #142 
  - Of course there's still leftists on this board -- did you see this 1068-vote DU poll?  scarletwoman   Nov-11-07 04:22 PM   #159 
  - That is uplifting..you are correct about that  Stuckinthebush   Nov-11-07 06:24 PM   #179 
     - I believe they are more vocal and I think there's a reason for that...  calipendence   Nov-12-07 10:49 AM   #245 
  - Oh please, don't leave  MadHound   Nov-11-07 04:26 PM   #160 
     - I'm sticking around...  Stuckinthebush   Nov-11-07 06:26 PM   #180 
        - It's actually good to see you,  MadHound   Nov-11-07 09:58 PM   #194 
           - I just lurk mostly now  Stuckinthebush   Nov-11-07 10:53 PM   #199 
  - Phil Ochs  T.Ruth2power   Nov-11-07 03:39 PM   #146 
  - Excellent post.  watrwefitinfor   Nov-12-07 06:41 AM   #229 
  - K&R!!!!!!!!  pnorman   Nov-11-07 04:03 PM   #155 
  - "it may not only cost the Dems the election next fall, it might cost the party its very existence"  omega minimo   Nov-11-07 04:39 PM   #164 
  - Thank you for so eloquently putting into words my own frustrations  Lorien   Nov-11-07 04:54 PM   #165 
  - Well, folks can say I cut my hair around a bowl and call me Judge Bradshaw for all I care,  nealmhughes   Nov-11-07 05:22 PM   #169 
  - Wonderful post! It's very much the same dynamic as "battered wife syndrome", imho.  scarletwoman   Nov-11-07 05:49 PM   #172 
  - yeah, but moderate dems are coporatists at heart  idgiehkt   Nov-11-07 10:14 PM   #197 
  - Everyone I know who was in on the Kucinich campaign in Minnesota in 2004  Lydia Leftcoast   Nov-11-07 05:59 PM   #173 
  - The same people who say leftists should compromise  leftist_not_liberal   Nov-11-07 06:07 PM   #175 
  - YOU need to wake up  iamthebandfanman   Nov-12-07 10:01 AM   #241 
  - I don't know about ideological purity...  magellan   Nov-11-07 06:32 PM   #181 
  - If you block walk as much as you write...  johncoby2   Nov-11-07 08:37 PM   #190 
  - Vichy Democrats = Surrender Monkeys  dpbrown   Nov-11-07 08:52 PM   #191 
  - 100 Recs!  greyhound1966   Nov-11-07 08:56 PM   #192 
  - well said  idgiehkt   Nov-11-07 10:10 PM   #196 
  - AMEN  drmeow   Nov-11-07 11:39 PM   #205 
  - DLC strategy is to ignore the base  OzarkDem   Nov-11-07 11:42 PM   #206 
  - Yes, yes and yes. Thanks for saying what needed to be said.  kelligesq   Nov-12-07 12:04 AM   #211 
  - Let me tell you what my old man said about 1932.  Perragrande   Nov-12-07 12:23 AM   #212 
  - Democratic Luther?  drmeow   Nov-12-07 12:28 AM   #213 
  - Thank you. What a breath of fresh air. I've seen that "purist" label bandied about like that here  Seabiscuit   Nov-12-07 01:26 AM   #215 
  - k+r  Progs Rock   Nov-12-07 01:34 AM   #216 
  - Cheers to you  sss1977   Nov-12-07 04:22 AM   #224 
  - have you noticed the dems moving to the Left as of late?  Enrique   Nov-12-07 05:30 AM   #226 
  - No actually I've seen them continue to move towards the right,  MadHound   Nov-12-07 08:48 AM   #235 
     - I think they're moving away from free trade  Enrique   Nov-12-07 10:41 AM   #243 
  - After Watching The Party Abdicate Responsibility For The Vote  lostnotforgotten   Nov-12-07 05:50 AM   #227 
  - Excellent!  Le Taz Hot   Nov-12-07 06:38 AM   #228 
  - Great Post. The Dermocratioc party has shifted to the right too often  Armstead   Nov-12-07 06:57 AM   #231 
  - the "ideological left" that we occupy these days . . .  OneBlueSky   Nov-12-07 07:29 AM   #232 
  - You would think that wtih so much at stake . . .  HughBeaumont   Nov-12-07 08:01 AM   #234 
  - IF I WERE ANY MORE ON THE LEFT....I'D BE ON THE RIGHT  happygoluckytoyou   Nov-12-07 08:50 AM   #236 
  - You're not wrong but..  Finite   Nov-12-07 09:17 AM   #237 
  - It's not a contest between left and right.  amb123   Nov-12-07 09:20 AM   #238 
  - I totally agree. The left/right, red/blue, demo/repub are distractions from the real issue that u  rhett o rick   Nov-12-07 10:49 AM   #244 
  - Here is why I desire left. (I'm not sure where to post this)  Gregorian   Nov-12-07 10:35 AM   #242 
  - Great post. But pleez help me out. What issues do leftists support that centralist don't.  rhett o rick   Nov-12-07 10:57 AM   #246 
  - You are aware of the fact that change is incremental, right?  EstimatedProphet   Nov-12-07 04:49 PM   #251 
  - I would say the republicans failed because they pushed MINORITY  angstlessk   Nov-12-07 05:09 PM   #252 
     - Nope  EstimatedProphet   Nov-12-07 08:52 PM   #254 
  - Moderates show spine when they stand up to far left and represent the center  Freddie Stubbs   Nov-13-07 10:12 AM   #255 
 

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