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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 01:45 AM
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90. Yep me too
If neither party will preserve our republic, then we need to start healing the disease by first acknowledging it exists in both.
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  -I'm all for party loyalty. But if I have to choose between my party & my Constitution ... HamdenRice  Nov-11-07 08:28 AM   #0 
  - You're right. In that contest, the Constitution wins.  LWolf   Nov-11-07 08:31 AM   #1 
  - Hands down.  mod mom   Nov-11-07 08:35 AM   #4 
  - bingo.  roguevalley   Nov-11-07 11:34 AM   #28 
  - Rep. Barbara Jordan, "My faith in the Consitution is whole :..."  SharonAnn   Nov-12-07 08:47 AM   #105 
     - It looks like some members of Congress  LWolf   Nov-12-07 09:34 AM   #107 
  - What is the "choice" that you're talking about? Can you be more specific?  brentspeak   Nov-11-07 08:31 AM   #2 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Nov-11-07 08:50 AM   #10 
  - I'm loyal to issues...not a party. n/t  NotGivingUp   Nov-11-07 08:32 AM   #3 
  - Do you have any principles that you are loyal to that guide your loyalty to issues?  HereSince1628   Nov-11-07 08:38 AM   #5 
     - Respect.....respect for people, for the planet and for our laws.  Toots   Nov-11-07 10:17 AM   #20 
     - Yes, that's a good one.  HereSince1628   Nov-11-07 11:08 AM   #26 
     - it's gotten so retarded-clean water,no wars for profit,just tax laws  natrat   Nov-11-07 05:57 PM   #68 
  - Excellent post that cuts to the heart of the matter  MadHound   Nov-11-07 08:41 AM   #6 
  - Agreed, But how do we stop those who are bound and determined...  liberal N proud   Nov-11-07 08:45 AM   #7 
  - Parties only get it when they get punished at the polls  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-11-07 02:40 PM   #38 
  - Are you willing to go through another 4 - 8 years of what we have had  liberal N proud   Nov-11-07 03:29 PM   #50 
  - I just stated the truth of it  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-12-07 01:47 AM   #91 
  - You got it. It is all that is left.  greyhound1966   Nov-11-07 10:16 PM   #84 
  - The anology is accurate  Unveiled19   Nov-11-07 09:45 PM   #80 
  - Dennis Kucinich carries a copy of the U.S. Constitution in his pocket  whistle   Nov-11-07 08:48 AM   #8 
  - I was talking about this  zidzi   Nov-11-07 03:00 PM   #43 
  - Ooo! Zidzi!  Le Taz Hot   Nov-12-07 06:13 AM   #98 
  - That's right, Le Taz, it would  zidzi   Nov-12-07 08:16 PM   #119 
  - It's great for use when debating "constitutional scholars", who've never read it.  Dr.Phool   Nov-12-07 07:08 AM   #101 
     - Ironic.. since it's Senator Robert  zidzi   Nov-12-07 08:26 PM   #120 
  - I agree with you on your points on the right to vote.  FREEWILL56   Nov-11-07 11:04 PM   #87 
  - excellent post.  Lerkfish   Nov-11-07 08:48 AM   #9 
  - I completely agree  proud2Blib   Nov-11-07 08:50 AM   #11 
  - K&R!  bonito   Nov-11-07 08:53 AM   #12 
  - Restoration of the Constitution and democracy is a good campaign issue  OzarkDem   Nov-11-07 09:22 AM   #13 
  - Sorry but there are only a handful that are pushing for reestablishment of  rhett o rick   Nov-11-07 10:05 AM   #14 
     - I think Kucinich is.  Lerkfish   Nov-11-07 10:07 AM   #15 
     - My greatest apologies yes DK is and so in fact is Ron Paul, not that I support him. nm  rhett o rick   Nov-11-07 10:12 AM   #17 
     - All of the dem candidates have spoken about this  cuke   Nov-11-07 01:30 PM   #31 
        - Not very impressively. Did any of the front runners say they would reestablish habeas corpus  rhett o rick   Nov-11-07 03:41 PM   #53 
           - More moving the goal posts  cuke   Nov-11-07 05:50 PM   #65 
              - You are absolutely right. I did a terrible job of stating my position and I thank you for taking me  rhett o rick   Nov-12-07 09:38 AM   #108 
                 - Thank you  cuke   Nov-12-07 12:28 PM   #114 
                    - And thank you for the friendly discussion. nm  rhett o rick   Nov-12-07 12:41 PM   #115 
     - On the dem side  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-11-07 02:42 PM   #40 
        - Yes I agree. I mistakenly only was refering to the front runners. nm  rhett o rick   Nov-11-07 03:39 PM   #52 
           - Among the front runners the one who has gotten the closest  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-11-07 04:52 PM   #57 
              - Obama has spoken about it. Clinton has spoken about it  cuke   Nov-11-07 05:52 PM   #66 
     - How is that possible?  warren pease   Nov-11-07 01:34 PM   #32 
        - I hope you'll post this as an OP -- so well stated! nt  HamdenRice   Nov-11-07 01:39 PM   #35 
        - I agree completely. You do such a good job of stating it. My post was purely reactionary. nm  rhett o rick   Nov-11-07 03:38 PM   #51 
        - It is just a joke to the BFEE. But Darth Cheney has Evolved  sce56   Nov-11-07 04:01 PM   #54 
           - I hadn't seen that cartoon. Thanx for the link.  Usrename   Nov-11-07 08:20 PM   #71 
  - Well said.  H2O Man   Nov-11-07 10:08 AM   #16 
  - There is a political realignment taking place  HamdenRice   Nov-11-07 10:21 AM   #21 
  - Also giving the Telcos immunity.  lateo   Nov-11-07 10:14 AM   #18 
  - I can agree with almost all of that.  cali   Nov-11-07 10:14 AM   #19 
  - Does that also equal empowering Repubs?  Truth Hurts A Lot   Nov-11-07 10:22 AM   #22 
  - that's also what the DLC supporters always say  Lerkfish   Nov-11-07 10:44 AM   #23 
  - Loud cheering on the side  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-11-07 02:45 PM   #41 
  - All this talk of wasted effort  Gonnabuymeagun   Nov-11-07 11:06 AM   #25 
  - I agree. n/t  Poll_Blind   Nov-11-07 11:03 AM   #24 
  - That's my stand as well.  libnnc   Nov-11-07 11:14 AM   #27 
  - I do not believe that any of our Presidential candidates want to do this  guruoo   Nov-11-07 12:41 PM   #29 
  - Bravo!  TheGoldenRule   Nov-11-07 01:18 PM   #30 
  - How do we restore the Constitution without a party?  cuke   Nov-11-07 01:34 PM   #33 
  - How does a party that ignores criminal conduct restore any laws?  Usrename   Nov-11-07 09:02 PM   #73 
     - Since you obviously didn't read my post  cuke   Nov-12-07 04:27 AM   #95 
        - I did read your post, and I agree with it.  Usrename   Nov-12-07 01:24 PM   #116 
  - "except Hillary" -- this has gotten ridiculous.  Sparkly   Nov-11-07 01:35 PM   #34 
  - I'll chose a rewrite  Mrspeeker   Nov-11-07 02:37 PM   #36 
  - I've considered commisioning a T-Shirt  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-11-07 02:38 PM   #37 
  - Bravo to the OP . n/t  kelligesq   Nov-11-07 02:40 PM   #39 
  - Well, the Dem. Party leaders are, for the most part, responding to their constituents.  indie_ana_500   Nov-11-07 02:56 PM   #42 
  - No. They're not.  omega minimo   Nov-11-07 03:02 PM   #44 
  - I would strongly disagree with most of your post. we are NOT being represented  Lerkfish   Nov-11-07 03:03 PM   #45 
  - Is that the "royal 'we?'"  Sparkly   Nov-11-07 05:21 PM   #63 
     - its the people what voted them in on an anti-war wave  Lerkfish   Nov-11-07 06:47 PM   #70 
  - THey are?  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-11-07 03:04 PM   #46 
  - I wouldn't be surprised if your argument is unchanged from when a majority opposed it  cuke   Nov-11-07 05:54 PM   #67 
  - Pelosi's district voted 60% in favor of impeachment. How is she responding to their wishes?  jgraz   Nov-11-07 04:04 PM   #56 
  - Do you have any evidence whatsoever to establish that claim, or is this just another  greyhound1966   Nov-11-07 10:34 PM   #86 
  - I'm with you - watch this  lame54   Nov-11-07 03:10 PM   #47 
  - hallelujah . . . . couldn't have said it better. [n/t]  stranger81   Nov-11-07 03:12 PM   #48 
  - The Constitution gets my vote  MissDeeds   Nov-11-07 03:13 PM   #49 
  - K&R -- excellent post  jgraz   Nov-11-07 04:02 PM   #55 
  - NYT Quote "Americans are a people in clinical depression,they know their Consititution has been  kelligesq   Nov-11-07 04:56 PM   #58 
  - Can you give me a link for this? I would really appreciate it! nt  HamdenRice   Nov-11-07 08:29 PM   #72 
  - Sound like Frank Rich -  Usrename   Nov-11-07 09:31 PM   #77 
     - Yes, so there are readers of the NYT here :D - watching C Span  kelligesq   Nov-11-07 09:56 PM   #81 
        - There are some real smart folks here.  Usrename   Nov-11-07 10:26 PM   #85 
  - Op-Ed piece Nov 11 07, url below  kelligesq   Nov-11-07 09:28 PM   #76 
  - Nobody fucking listens to me  Tab   Nov-11-07 05:12 PM   #59 
  - It's our job to kick every one of those Vichy Dems out of office asap.  Seabiscuit   Nov-12-07 01:35 AM   #89 
  - Work Hard to Change the Party, from "the Ground-Up"  fascisthunter   Nov-11-07 05:14 PM   #60 
  - I try to be loyal to humanity  personman   Nov-11-07 05:19 PM   #61 
  - What portions of the Constitution do that ? You said  kelligesq   Nov-11-07 05:49 PM   #64 
  - The 14th Amendment, in the form of property rights.  personman   Nov-11-07 06:36 PM   #69 
     - You oppose the 14th Amendment giving the right for any citizen to own property?  kelligesq   Nov-11-07 09:15 PM   #75 
        - It's the parenthetical part of your post that has the most importance.  Usrename   Nov-11-07 09:37 PM   #78 
        - 14th and 5th, sorry.  personman   Nov-12-07 09:12 AM   #106 
  - Perhaps I've missed this  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-12-07 01:49 AM   #92 
  - Amen  L0oniX   Nov-11-07 05:20 PM   #62 
  - Excellent post. I think that would be a great bumper sticker: Pro Constitution.  helderheid   Nov-11-07 09:04 PM   #74 
  - I know a LOT of right-wingers you could sell that one too, as well. n/t  boloboffin   Nov-12-07 01:50 AM   #93 
     - so do I!  helderheid   Nov-12-07 02:02 PM   #118 
  - Thank you  D23MIURG23   Nov-11-07 09:39 PM   #79 
  - Luckily, that choice isn't in question here.  boloboffin   Nov-11-07 10:03 PM   #82 
  - Excellent OP Post. It's obvious the DLC  kelligesq   Nov-11-07 10:06 PM   #83 
  - Good Point ... BUT  Mark D.   Nov-12-07 12:49 AM   #88 
  - Yep me too  upi402   Nov-12-07 01:45 AM   #90 
  - k+r  Progs Rock   Nov-12-07 03:05 AM   #94 
  - that's why i'm running against bean  tofubo   Nov-12-07 06:00 AM   #96 
  - Welcome to the fold.  Le Taz Hot   Nov-12-07 06:06 AM   #97 
  - Is this another one of those threads...  regnaD kciN   Nov-12-07 06:23 AM   #99 
  - The Democrats are our only shot. If we don't support them, both country & Constitution are screwed.  Perry Logan   Nov-12-07 06:26 AM   #100 
  - You might want to remember this as well...  Oldenuff   Nov-12-07 07:50 AM   #102 
  - Indeed  burythehatchet   Nov-12-07 08:01 AM   #103 
  - send this to the Congress!  Tesla   Nov-12-07 08:12 AM   #104 
  - I'll vote for the most liberal party that I feel can win.  CT_Progressive   Nov-12-07 09:40 AM   #109 
  - The Constitution TRANSCENDS Politics and Political Parties.  The Stranger   Nov-12-07 09:42 AM   #110 
  - Me too.  mmonk   Nov-12-07 09:44 AM   #111 
  - Lest We Forget  Genki   Nov-12-07 09:51 AM   #112 
  - After the 2006 Election and Pelosi Claimed "Impeachment is off the Table"  fascisthunter   Nov-12-07 09:56 AM   #113 
  - But why didn't the founders see it that way?  jpgray   Nov-12-07 01:26 PM   #117 
     - I don't think anyone wants to impeach Bush for signing any act of Congress.  Usrename   Nov-13-07 12:18 AM   #121 
 

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