John Q. Citizen
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Sat Nov-10-07 04:28 PM
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| 43. Go read the newspaper consortium report. Gore won Florida, |
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Nader is just a guy who has done a lot of good for the country (saved millions of Americans lives)
and then he ran for president and made some observations about how close the Repos and Dems have become. We see the same stuff happening today.
You make all kinds of assumptions you assume that somebody who voted for Nader would have suddenly become a Gore supporter if Nader didn't follow the american dream and run for president.
The socialist workers party got thousands of votes in Florida in 2000 Why aren't you all pissed at them?
The Repos outright flat out stole Florida. It's their fault, not Nader's.
If you would prefer a system where people aren't allowed to run for president unless pre-approved by the Dems, work for that.
I could care less what your view of Nader's politics are. Some people like them, some don't.
It's just the scapegoating that bothers me. It's so right wing as to be abhorrent.
Buchanan ran that year in Florida too. Are you saying it's fine that he ran, but horrible that Nader did?
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| -If some DUers spent half the time attacking Rethugs that they spend attacking Dems... |
NNN0LHI |
Nov-10-07 01:07 PM |
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Agreed.... |
MadMaddie |
Nov-10-07 01:08 PM |
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Ummmm...I am sure that is the case for some DUers.... |
physioex |
Nov-10-07 01:09 PM |
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Given that 40-50% of the folks that post here |
DURHAM D |
Nov-10-07 01:09 PM |
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Are they lurking freepers, trying to split Democrats, or |
johan helge |
Nov-10-07 01:36 PM |
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Yes. |
DURHAM D |
Nov-10-07 06:38 PM |
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Nov-10-07 01:10 PM |
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The building's on fire. You going to torch the other half or try and save it? |
LeftCoast |
Nov-10-07 01:14 PM |
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And thanks for playing Really Bad Analogies |
jgraz |
Nov-10-07 01:19 PM |
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You wouldn't. You also wouldn't set fire to the half that wasn't burning. |
LeftCoast |
Nov-10-07 01:20 PM |
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Riiight...the *criticism* is the problem |
jgraz |
Nov-10-07 01:25 PM |
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When you take a flame thrower to the entire party |
LeftCoast |
Nov-10-07 01:27 PM |
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Could that man be any strawier? |
jgraz |
Nov-10-07 01:30 PM |
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With a stretch you could say that is criticism |
creeksneakers2 |
Nov-10-07 04:17 PM |
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That's because I didn't feel like writing my PoliSci thesis today |
jgraz |
Nov-10-07 05:34 PM |
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And I'll call your obscene gesture any name I want. n/t |
creeksneakers2 |
Nov-10-07 06:11 PM |
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Yes, you can |
jgraz |
Nov-10-07 10:37 PM |
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I didn't imply that |
creeksneakers2 |
Nov-10-07 11:46 PM |
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Ain't that the truth. I like something about ALL the candidates. nt |
MookieWilson |
Nov-10-07 01:10 PM |
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Hear! Hear! |
LeftCoast |
Nov-10-07 01:13 PM |
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Pretty simplistic. It kind of reduces the whole debate about our future to the status of a football |
John Q. Citizen |
Nov-10-07 01:13 PM |
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Well, the Nader voters in Florida in 2000 definitely |
johan helge |
Nov-10-07 01:41 PM |
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That is a phony analysis. For a whole lot of reasons. One main one was that |
John Q. Citizen |
Nov-10-07 02:47 PM |
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If not for Nader, the USSC and Republican dirty tricks |
johan helge |
Nov-10-07 03:16 PM |
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Do you have any evidence to back up what you claim? Or do you just |
John Q. Citizen |
Nov-10-07 03:32 PM |
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Bush won Florida with a margin of |
johan helge |
Nov-10-07 04:01 PM |
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Go read the newspaper consortium report. Gore won Florida, |
John Q. Citizen |
Nov-10-07 04:28 PM |
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This isn't difficult |
johan helge |
Nov-11-07 02:08 AM |
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Gore won by over 100,000 votes WITH Nader in - Jeb and the RNC were prepared |
blm |
Nov-10-07 05:46 PM |
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If the election was a complete fake - |
johan helge |
Nov-11-07 02:42 AM |
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Nader's candidacy was USED to explain away the closeness when Gore actually won |
blm |
Nov-11-07 12:08 PM |
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Gore lost because of many things - |
johan helge |
Nov-12-07 10:31 AM |
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Nader got 90,000 votes in Florida - Gore beat Bush by over 100,000 votes |
blm |
Nov-12-07 12:16 PM |
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If the election was a complete fake - |
johan helge |
Nov-12-07 01:12 PM |
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Yes - which is why I said it gave political cover for WHY and the Dem PARTY |
blm |
Nov-12-07 01:16 PM |
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I think the Dems |
johan helge |
Nov-12-07 02:55 PM |
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My point is what they did mattered little in the ACTUAL OUTCOME while election THEFT |
blm |
Nov-12-07 03:05 PM |
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Noone knows for sure |
johan helge |
Nov-12-07 03:49 PM |
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What evidence do you have that 50,000 legitimate black voters |
creeksneakers2 |
Nov-10-07 04:20 PM |
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With pleasure. I'm surprised that you missed this. Where have you been? |
John Q. Citizen |
Nov-10-07 04:50 PM |
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You need to read Armed Madhouse |
proud2Blib |
Nov-10-07 05:45 PM |
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I don't go by Greg Palast , unless he cites evidence |
creeksneakers2 |
Nov-10-07 06:35 PM |
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Methinks you overestimate the power of DU. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Nov-10-07 01:15 PM |
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Yes, lack of criticism often leads to greatly improved representation |
jgraz |
Nov-10-07 01:16 PM |
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Criticism can be ok - |
johan helge |
Nov-10-07 02:04 PM |
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You're throwing out accusations rather than dealing with substance |
jgraz |
Nov-10-07 05:45 PM |
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I don't understand what you mean (nt) |
johan helge |
Nov-11-07 02:10 AM |
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Some of us can walk and chew gum at the same time. (n/t). |
Chovexani |
Nov-10-07 01:16 PM |
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JOIN THE GOP: That's Your Party |
fightthegoodfightnow |
Nov-10-07 01:20 PM |
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. |
jgraz |
Nov-10-07 01:27 PM |
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that's too harsh. I think all he's trying to say is "united we stand, divided we fall". sheesh. |
ourbluenation |
Nov-10-07 01:43 PM |
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Right............got it.............. |
fightthegoodfightnow |
Nov-10-07 02:23 PM |
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We're going to win, in any case. And that's like saying go fight |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-10-07 01:43 PM |
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Excuse me. Ummm, I don't think we're being asked |
Skidmore |
Nov-10-07 01:47 PM |
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They won't earn their paychecks |
L. Coyote |
Nov-10-07 01:52 PM |
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If you were a conservative operator wanting to disrupt this site .. |
Mark E. Smith |
Nov-10-07 01:54 PM |
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Thank you, thank you, thank you! |
annarbor |
Nov-12-07 01:28 PM |
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the repukes suck. they are traitors to this country and this planet. |
leftofthedial |
Nov-10-07 01:55 PM |
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Nevah happen... |
TreasonousBastard |
Nov-10-07 02:00 PM |
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I think I might be in love with you... |
ourbluenation |
Nov-10-07 02:12 PM |
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Amen. |
Mark E. Smith |
Nov-10-07 02:49 PM |
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Give Me a Break |
fightthegoodfightnow |
Nov-10-07 02:26 PM |
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An exaggeration so blatant it becomes a distortion. n/t |
creeksneakers2 |
Nov-10-07 04:24 PM |
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Right...... Good For You |
fightthegoodfightnow |
Nov-11-07 12:48 PM |
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And so many of them DO make the Greatest. |
Laurab |
Nov-10-07 05:20 PM |
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You're assuming that there are enough DUers to influence an election. |
Blue-Jay |
Nov-10-07 02:28 PM |
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And it would gain us nothing if we only end up with half a Party which supports our principles. |
KaptBunnyPants |
Nov-10-07 03:13 PM |
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But it's "primary season" |
Baby Snooks |
Nov-10-07 03:24 PM |
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It's wabbit season |
deutsey |
Nov-10-07 05:39 PM |
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Good Lord. |
Echos Myron |
Nov-10-07 06:14 PM |
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We won't have child molesting, bathroom cruising, diaper wearing Republicans running this country |
NNN0LHI |
Nov-10-07 07:20 PM |
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Wow |
BoneDaddy |
Nov-10-07 10:50 PM |
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We already know that Repukes are bad. |
Naturyl |
Nov-10-07 10:40 PM |
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One way to fix that... |
bluestateguy |
Nov-10-07 11:50 PM |
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K&R! Nothing wrong with criticizing fellow Democrats on policy issues, but the bashing gets out of |
Pushed To The Left |
Nov-11-07 12:21 PM |
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Not gonna happen |
EstimatedProphet |
Nov-12-07 12:44 PM |
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