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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 04:28 PM
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43. Go read the newspaper consortium report. Gore won Florida,
Nader is just a guy who has done a lot of good for the country (saved millions of Americans lives)

and then he ran for president and made some observations about how close the Repos and Dems have become. We see the same stuff happening today.

You make all kinds of assumptions you assume that somebody who voted for Nader would have suddenly become a Gore supporter if Nader didn't follow the american dream and run for president.

The socialist workers party got thousands of votes in Florida in 2000 Why aren't you all pissed at them?

The Repos outright flat out stole Florida. It's their fault, not Nader's.

If you would prefer a system where people aren't allowed to run for president unless pre-approved by the Dems, work for that.

I could care less what your view of Nader's politics are. Some people like them, some don't.

It's just the scapegoating that bothers me. It's so right wing as to be abhorrent.

Buchanan ran that year in Florida too. Are you saying it's fine that he ran, but horrible that Nader did?
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     - And thanks for playing Really Bad Analogies  jgraz   Nov-10-07 01:19 PM   #12 
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           - Riiight...the *criticism* is the problem  jgraz   Nov-10-07 01:25 PM   #15 
              - When you take a flame thrower to the entire party  LeftCoast   Nov-10-07 01:27 PM   #17 
              - Could that man be any strawier?  jgraz   Nov-10-07 01:30 PM   #18 
              - With a stretch you could say that is criticism  creeksneakers2   Nov-10-07 04:17 PM   #40 
                 - That's because I didn't feel like writing my PoliSci thesis today  jgraz   Nov-10-07 05:34 PM   #46 
                    - And I'll call your obscene gesture any name I want. n/t  creeksneakers2   Nov-10-07 06:11 PM   #51 
                       - Yes, you can  jgraz   Nov-10-07 10:37 PM   #56 
                          - I didn't imply that  creeksneakers2   Nov-10-07 11:46 PM   #59 
  - Ain't that the truth. I like something about ALL the candidates. nt  MookieWilson   Nov-10-07 01:10 PM   #5 
  - Hear! Hear!  LeftCoast   Nov-10-07 01:13 PM   #6 
  - Pretty simplistic. It kind of reduces the whole debate about our future to the status of a football  John Q. Citizen   Nov-10-07 01:13 PM   #7 
  - Well, the Nader voters in Florida in 2000 definitely  johan helge   Nov-10-07 01:41 PM   #20 
     - That is a phony analysis. For a whole lot of reasons. One main one was that  John Q. Citizen   Nov-10-07 02:47 PM   #33 
        - If not for Nader, the USSC and Republican dirty tricks  johan helge   Nov-10-07 03:16 PM   #36 
        - Do you have any evidence to back up what you claim? Or do you just  John Q. Citizen   Nov-10-07 03:32 PM   #38 
        - Bush won Florida with a margin of  johan helge   Nov-10-07 04:01 PM   #39 
           - Go read the newspaper consortium report. Gore won Florida,  John Q. Citizen   Nov-10-07 04:28 PM   #43 
              - This isn't difficult  johan helge   Nov-11-07 02:08 AM   #61 
        - Gore won by over 100,000 votes WITH Nader in - Jeb and the RNC were prepared  blm   Nov-10-07 05:46 PM   #50 
           - If the election was a complete fake -  johan helge   Nov-11-07 02:42 AM   #63 
              - Nader's candidacy was USED to explain away the closeness when Gore actually won  blm   Nov-11-07 12:08 PM   #64 
                 - Gore lost because of many things -  johan helge   Nov-12-07 10:31 AM   #67 
                    - Nader got 90,000 votes in Florida - Gore beat Bush by over 100,000 votes  blm   Nov-12-07 12:16 PM   #68 
                       - If the election was a complete fake -  johan helge   Nov-12-07 01:12 PM   #70 
                          - Yes - which is why I said it gave political cover for WHY and the Dem PARTY  blm   Nov-12-07 01:16 PM   #71 
                             - I think the Dems  johan helge   Nov-12-07 02:55 PM   #73 
                                - My point is what they did mattered little in the ACTUAL OUTCOME while election THEFT  blm   Nov-12-07 03:05 PM   #74 
                                   - Noone knows for sure  johan helge   Nov-12-07 03:49 PM   #75 
        - What evidence do you have that 50,000 legitimate black voters  creeksneakers2   Nov-10-07 04:20 PM   #41 
           - With pleasure. I'm surprised that you missed this. Where have you been?  John Q. Citizen   Nov-10-07 04:50 PM   #44 
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  - Criticism can be ok -  johan helge   Nov-10-07 02:04 PM   #28 
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