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Fri Nov-09-07 02:00 PM
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| 17. And the thing cures cancer too! |
| -A 600 horsepower Hummer that gets 60 miles per gallon of biodiesel! |
mhatrw |
Nov-09-07 01:00 PM |
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A real American gear head |
The Traveler |
Nov-09-07 01:05 PM |
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Ah, so he used a turbine engine instead of a internal combustion engine to generate electric power. |
Selatius |
Nov-09-07 01:06 PM |
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Read the whole article before you get in obnoxious know-it-all debunking mode. |
mhatrw |
Nov-09-07 01:09 PM |
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Yeah, I'm reading the article now. I still recommend against a turbine engine though. |
Selatius |
Nov-09-07 01:12 PM |
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That's ONE project. Every other has NOTHING to do with turbine engines. |
mhatrw |
Nov-09-07 01:15 PM |
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Yeah, but one question bugs me. Creating hydrogen fuel takes tremendous energy. |
Selatius |
Nov-09-07 01:37 PM |
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Again, you act as if the hydrogen additive is the whole shebang. |
mhatrw |
Nov-09-07 01:59 PM |
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I don't think we're in disagreement here. |
Selatius |
Nov-09-07 02:15 PM |
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I agree completely. But people act like fuel cells are what is holding us back. |
mhatrw |
Nov-09-07 02:37 PM |
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I want to see him convert a true classic, like a 1970 Dodge Challenger R/T. |
Selatius |
Nov-09-07 03:00 PM |
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he did this with an impala |
gort |
Nov-09-07 11:53 PM |
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Half a trillion dollars to build a hydrogen infrastructure. |
wtmusic |
Nov-10-07 12:01 AM |
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Suppose you just increased the efficiency of hydrogen production? |
mhatrw |
Nov-10-07 02:49 AM |
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Problem is |
wtmusic |
Nov-10-07 06:23 PM |
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One is the same reason they were a bad idea for Tanks |
Paulie |
Nov-09-07 02:25 PM |
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Considering that 500,000 lb thrust jet engines... |
TheMadMonk |
Nov-09-07 01:56 PM |
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Someone built a 500,000 lbt jet engine? |
karlrschneider |
Nov-09-07 02:01 PM |
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lose a zerp, or whatever. The point remains valid. |
TheMadMonk |
Nov-09-07 02:16 PM |
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Captain Al Haynes of United 232 might have a comment on that. |
karlrschneider |
Nov-09-07 02:29 PM |
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He lost his hydraulics. I don't see any mention of shrapnel... |
TheMadMonk |
Nov-09-07 07:40 PM |
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Well, I do know something about it. The #2 engine shelled out and cut the hydraulic lines. |
karlrschneider |
Nov-09-07 07:46 PM |
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And people get killed by flying wheels too. |
TheMadMonk |
Nov-09-07 09:51 PM |
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Lead-acid batteries don't contain concentrated H2SO4 |
karlrschneider |
Nov-09-07 10:42 PM |
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I said football. Not the codpieced linedancers who occupy the gaps between the ads. |
TheMadMonk |
Nov-09-07 10:49 PM |
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Mea culpa...I forgot you're down under. (What is it, exactly, you guys are 'under'? |
karlrschneider |
Nov-09-07 10:52 PM |
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The 'ol Saturn rocket developed 1,300,000 lbs thrust!.... |
BrotherBuzz |
Nov-09-07 02:36 PM |
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I know but they aren't jet engines... |
karlrschneider |
Nov-09-07 03:42 PM |
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Is this for a consumer car?? If so, it's just wrong |
RufusTFirefly |
Nov-09-07 01:07 PM |
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Read the whole article before commenting. Is that really too much to ask? |
mhatrw |
Nov-09-07 01:11 PM |
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cool article - thanks |
Locrian |
Nov-09-07 01:29 PM |
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So your argument is |
NeedleCast |
Nov-09-07 02:06 PM |
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why does anyone need ANY particular car?? |
QuestionAll |
Nov-09-07 10:38 PM |
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Kos discussion here... |
SidDithers |
Nov-09-07 01:29 PM |
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Typical debunking bs. He also tripled the horsepower at the same time |
mhatrw |
Nov-09-07 01:33 PM |
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By adding hydrogen into the fuel... |
SidDithers |
Nov-09-07 01:53 PM |
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Read the article. |
mhatrw |
Nov-09-07 02:01 PM |
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how many gallons of hydrogen did he use? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Nov-09-07 02:05 PM |
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Again, he doubled power while doubling gas mileage without any hydrogen. |
mhatrw |
Nov-09-07 02:14 PM |
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Did he use hydrogen or didn't he? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Nov-09-07 02:20 PM |
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It also takes energy to make electricity. Does that make electric cars bad, too? |
mhatrw |
Nov-09-07 02:32 PM |
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If you're getting electricity from gas powered power plants, yes. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Nov-09-07 02:34 PM |
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Nov-09-07 02:39 PM |
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Nov-09-07 02:41 PM |
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Nov-09-07 02:46 PM |
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Sure, that works for me. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Nov-09-07 02:47 PM |
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You don't have to use a hummer, now do you? |
mhatrw |
Nov-09-07 02:52 PM |
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No, nor diesel. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Nov-09-07 02:55 PM |
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What can you use instead that's better that you can buy today? n/t |
mhatrw |
Nov-09-07 03:09 PM |
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Straight biodiesel. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Nov-09-07 03:13 PM |
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Then use it until you can get some efficiently produced hydrogen to |
mhatrw |
Nov-09-07 03:29 PM |
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Or you could take a small CO2 hit. And use methane/nat gas for... |
TheMadMonk |
Nov-09-07 07:45 PM |
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Which is exactly what I said... |
SidDithers |
Nov-09-07 03:42 PM |
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Kos is an idiot on this issue... |
snooper2 |
Nov-09-07 01:50 PM |
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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. |
Sentinel Chicken |
Nov-09-07 01:42 PM |
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The proof is that it works and people are now driving the cars he's made. |
mhatrw |
Nov-09-07 02:03 PM |
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Here's the part that proves the whole story is bullshit: |
karlrschneider |
Nov-09-07 02:06 PM |
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How does that prove the whole story is bullshit? |
mhatrw |
Nov-09-07 02:11 PM |
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If you're going to replace an SI engine with a diesel, all of that interface stuff |
karlrschneider |
Nov-09-07 02:13 PM |
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Why don't you try it for yourself and get back to us? |
mhatrw |
Nov-09-07 02:16 PM |
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Because if you want to get the bloody electric window winders to work... |
TheMadMonk |
Nov-09-07 07:55 PM |
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Nov-09-07 08:48 PM |
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Remind me not to get on any road you're driving on since you belive... |
TheMadMonk |
Nov-09-07 10:01 PM |
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Nov-09-07 10:24 PM |
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We are talking of a specific vehicle here. |
TheMadMonk |
Nov-09-07 10:58 PM |
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Nov-09-07 11:06 PM |
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And the thing cures cancer too! |
karlrschneider |
Nov-09-07 02:00 PM |
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Exactly. Repeat after me: Detroit makes the most efficient cars possible. |
mhatrw |
Nov-09-07 02:08 PM |
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Nov-09-07 02:14 PM |
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What's funny is how the debunkers love to debunk anything that could |
mhatrw |
Nov-09-07 02:17 PM |
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How do you know his engines are more efficient? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Nov-09-07 02:27 PM |
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You're right. The millionaires paying him tens of thousands to |
mhatrw |
Nov-09-07 02:41 PM |
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Yeah, Neil Young, American Genius. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Nov-09-07 02:44 PM |
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Except an American message board "voice of reason." |
mhatrw |
Nov-09-07 02:47 PM |
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Except Neil Young is Canadian |
WilyWondr |
Nov-09-07 03:07 PM |
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He's a Canadian |
gort |
Nov-10-07 12:08 AM |
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God, this sounds like those snake-oil colon-cleanser people on late-night TV |
NickB79 |
Nov-09-07 02:11 PM |
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This guy is the grandson of the guy who invented the 200 MPG carburetor |
karlrschneider |
Nov-09-07 02:15 PM |
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Yep. Big corporations are always perfectly efficient! |
mhatrw |
Nov-09-07 02:19 PM |
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This isn't about R&D |
NickB79 |
Nov-10-07 01:40 PM |
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Because the vehicle manufactuers are not alone in the game. |
TheMadMonk |
Nov-09-07 07:19 PM |
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Yep, there's that conspiracy theory |
NickB79 |
Nov-10-07 01:34 PM |
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You missed the tyre manufacturers. |
TheMadMonk |
Nov-10-07 11:03 PM |
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And it will still be a safety threat to every smaller vehicle on |
Zookeeper |
Nov-09-07 02:37 PM |
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Did you read the article? |
mhatrw |
Nov-09-07 02:44 PM |
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Isn't amazing how many times you have to say that? nt |
Javaman |
Nov-09-07 02:45 PM |
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Actually, I didn't. My bad. n/t |
Zookeeper |
Nov-09-07 04:11 PM |
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Biodiesel Impala vs Lamborghini |
WilyWondr |
Nov-09-07 03:04 PM |
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60MPG would be interesting if it works |
One_Life_To_Give |
Nov-09-07 03:17 PM |
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The reason there are no commercial transistors is because the VACUUM TUBE COMPANIES |
karlrschneider |
Nov-09-07 07:22 PM |
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Discussions about mpg |
taught_me_patience |
Nov-09-07 03:44 PM |
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I'll swap you a Size 3 Perpetual Motion Machine for it! |
karlrschneider |
Nov-09-07 03:48 PM |
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Have you read one actual word that others have written? |
TheMadMonk |
Nov-09-07 08:58 PM |
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Nov-09-07 10:25 PM |
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Why? That's when I get my best ideas. |
TheMadMonk |
Nov-09-07 11:07 PM |
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la la la la la la |
BushDespiser12 |
Nov-10-07 02:57 AM |
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So much snake oil, yet so few squeaky snakes. Never understood that at'all. |
lectrobyte |
Nov-09-07 10:56 PM |
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