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121. Remember the day in May when the Mexicans vowed to walk out, as a means to show
how valuable they are to us?

Guess what didn't happen; for any number of reasons and more if the immigrant was *gasp* an illegal alien...

Human nature. People want what's comfortable and familiar. But some also think the American dream is about working 20 hours a day being a maid and running cleaning stores despite coming here from Nairobi with a degree in IT... (a small biz advocate spun the above into making it sound great... at 20 hours a day, it's not a dream but a nightmare.)

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  -Why Are Americans So Docile? Jcrowley  Feb-15-07 11:34 AM   #0 
  - Strikes!?! Good God, don't they know that most of us are one missed paycheck away from foreclosure  kenny blankenship   Feb-15-07 11:41 AM   #1 
  - So true. And yet...they can't fire us ALL! nt  ThruTheLookingGlass   Feb-15-07 11:44 AM   #4 
  - They could lock us out take our homes hire us again for less and we'd be...  JVS   Feb-15-07 12:08 PM   #21 
  - That depends entirely upon how many Mexicans they can  NCevilDUer   Feb-15-07 12:42 PM   #31 
  - Which is why we need to have solidarity  otherlander   Feb-15-07 03:25 PM   #58 
     - I think that has something to do with the schizoid attitudes about  NCevilDUer   Feb-15-07 03:42 PM   #65 
     - Remember the day in May when the Mexicans vowed to walk out, as a means to show  HypnoToad   Feb-16-07 08:14 AM   #121 
  - Offshoring... people are clinging to what they have now, because  HypnoToad   Feb-16-07 08:10 AM   #119 
  - Well said!  demnan   Feb-15-07 11:46 AM   #5 
  - Part of it is the increased militarization of our police and our governing bodies.  shance   Feb-15-07 11:41 AM   #2 
  - Truly significant. n/t  greyhound1966   Feb-15-07 05:24 PM   #76 
  - We're pacified by our toys  LiberalEsto   Feb-15-07 11:43 AM   #3 
  - Hear, hear! That is the biggest problem as I see it. I say this...  Poll_Blind   Feb-15-07 12:24 PM   #26 
  - Don't forget the meds we need!  StClone   Feb-15-07 09:56 PM   #102 
  - Along with other reasons offered - we have no tradition of a general strike  bryant69   Feb-15-07 11:46 AM   #6 
  - There WAS a strong tradition of stikes,  NCevilDUer   Feb-15-07 12:52 PM   #37 
     - Because labor unions had more or less won after 1941  theboss   Feb-15-07 03:59 PM   #69 
        - Gosh, that war got here just in time,  rman   Feb-16-07 08:08 AM   #118 
  - Really good points  treestar   Feb-15-07 11:50 AM   #7 
  - Agree for the most part  NoMoreMyths   Feb-15-07 11:51 AM   #8 
  - On the contrary, access to resources is guaranteed by mutually  NCevilDUer   Feb-15-07 12:58 PM   #39 
  - Having abandoned colonialism, we started neo-colonialism,  rman   Feb-16-07 07:58 AM   #116 
  - There's another reason, too  Neecy   Feb-15-07 02:17 PM   #47 
     - When I got my current job  tavalon   Feb-16-07 06:50 AM   #110 
  - USA!USA!USA!  EstimatedProphet   Feb-15-07 11:52 AM   #9 
  - "You mess with the bull you get the horns!"  CrispyQGirl   Feb-15-07 03:25 PM   #57 
     - How fitting. It's almost right out of 'Animal Farm'  EstimatedProphet   Feb-15-07 08:39 PM   #98 
  - Posters #1, and #3 have very valid points.  William Bloode   Feb-15-07 11:52 AM   #10 
  - I think you're on to something with that trifecta  AliceWonderland   Feb-15-07 01:53 PM   #45 
  - They all support one another.  William Bloode   Feb-15-07 02:46 PM   #53 
  - Yet, we continue to cooperate with that division.  bobbolink   Feb-15-07 07:30 PM   #90 
  - If Europeans are so brave, why haven't the Brits called a general strike? They have casualties too  Nikki Stone1   Feb-15-07 11:54 AM   #11 
  - "It is the growing sense of helplessness against the globalized powers."  CrispyQGirl   Feb-15-07 03:36 PM   #61 
  - fluoridated water.  QuestionAll   Feb-15-07 11:54 AM   #12 
  - AMEN! First used in Nazi prison camps even! n/t  soulcore   Feb-15-07 01:26 PM   #44 
  - Really? Source? nt  raccoon   Feb-16-07 07:54 AM   #114 
  - BULL  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-15-07 03:39 PM   #62 
     - me thinks thou dost protest too much...  QuestionAll   Feb-15-07 10:02 PM   #103 
  - I think part of the answer to your question is fundamentalist  raccoon   Feb-15-07 11:55 AM   #13 
  - So, why don't the Brits or Australians do it?  theboss   Feb-15-07 12:21 PM   #23 
     - Reckon a general strike is just not an anglo thing?  raccoon   Feb-16-07 07:50 AM   #113 
        - there were exactly 2 general strikes in the USA  DBoon   Feb-16-07 11:43 AM   #137 
  - Part of having a "coordinated effort" might have to do with size of the US  Lex   Feb-15-07 11:55 AM   #14 
  - We, for the most part, are tired from working and all we want is a hot meal and some tv  itsmesgd   Feb-15-07 11:57 AM   #15 
  - Then "we" get what we deserve.  bobbolink   Feb-15-07 07:32 PM   #91 
  - Chomksy knows:  lectrobyte   Feb-15-07 11:57 AM   #16 
  - But the article in the OP holds the Germans, French, Italians & Spaniards out  Lex   Feb-15-07 12:01 PM   #18 
  - Jeez...could Chomsky be talking out of his ass?  theboss   Feb-15-07 12:44 PM   #33 
     - Could you? He states quite clearly that he doesn't know about the phenomenon  greyhound1966   Feb-15-07 05:34 PM   #77 
        - No, they are spending an inordinate amount of time on something entertaining  theboss   Feb-16-07 08:38 AM   #124 
           - What does it say about a person, and by extension their society, that  greyhound1966   Feb-16-07 10:43 AM   #133 
              - I agree and disagree  theboss   Feb-16-07 12:11 PM   #138 
                 - Very true. That reminds me of the popular song(?) in 97 called Sunscreen.  greyhound1966   Feb-16-07 08:00 PM   #150 
  - This interview is worth bookmarking  Nikki Stone1   Feb-15-07 12:03 PM   #19 
  - Chomsky needs to travel to South America  theboss   Feb-15-07 12:23 PM   #25 
  - Strangely enough I've even heard Neil Boortz say almost the same thing.  Jonathan50   Feb-15-07 07:52 PM   #92 
  - "it reminds me in some ways of things that you find in non-literate or non-technological cultures.."  omega minimo   Feb-15-07 08:42 PM   #99 
  - That's great! Where's it from? nt  raccoon   Feb-16-07 07:56 AM   #115 
  - Found it on the web. Seems to be just a side topic from an  lectrobyte   Feb-16-07 08:44 AM   #126 
  - Do you have a link to this Chomsky interview?  Ladyhawk   Feb-16-07 11:27 AM   #135 
     - It turns out that is from the book "Understand Power" p .100 or so...  lectrobyte   Feb-16-07 02:12 PM   #143 
        - Thanks. :)  Ladyhawk   Feb-16-07 05:12 PM   #145 
  - What was it Chomsky said  Jim Warren   Feb-15-07 11:59 AM   #17 
  - Bingo! The twin motivators of the sheeple, fear and greed.  greyhound1966   Feb-15-07 05:02 PM   #73 
     - Yes indeedy  Jim Warren   Feb-16-07 09:17 AM   #129 
  - General strikes wouldn't be all that effective here.  Xithras   Feb-15-07 12:07 PM   #20 
  - I believe you are wrong on this, the only tool we have to use against  greyhound1966   Feb-15-07 05:15 PM   #75 
  - All western democracies are docile: Which is a great thing  theboss   Feb-15-07 12:20 PM   #22 
  - One thing to point out  knight_of_the_star   Feb-15-07 06:02 PM   #83 
  - The American Revolution was a war for independence, not a  raccoon   Feb-16-07 08:00 AM   #117 
  - I think he's missed a pillar. I normally don't have the time BUT this...  Poll_Blind   Feb-15-07 12:22 PM   #24 
  - great post! it deserves to be posted as its own thread. it's important for people to see this. eom  NotGivingUp   Feb-15-07 02:00 PM   #46 
  - I agree.  DemEtienne   Feb-15-07 02:38 PM   #51 
  - I appreciate that, I really do, but I think it would cause more...  Poll_Blind   Feb-15-07 02:39 PM   #52 
     - Too bad  tavalon   Feb-16-07 06:59 AM   #111 
  - I don't think your last sentence is as true as you might think  Jonathan50   Feb-15-07 03:20 PM   #55 
  - I know what you mean. I, myself, was thinking of the spat between...  Poll_Blind   Feb-15-07 03:29 PM   #60 
  - I read the whole thing  sleebarker   Feb-15-07 05:43 PM   #78 
  - I know what you mean. I didn't put as much effort into alternatives...  Poll_Blind   Feb-15-07 08:59 PM   #100 
  - I bookmarked your post to come back to and I'm glad I did. Good read. "Bodies in  gratefultobelib   Feb-15-07 06:03 PM   #84 
     - Thank you. I've been using the Internet long enough, and participating...  Poll_Blind   Feb-15-07 09:03 PM   #101 
        - Interesting side thread  Jim Warren   Feb-16-07 09:12 AM   #128 
           - The same thing that keeps 300 zebra watching 1 of their kin being...  Poll_Blind   Feb-16-07 09:58 AM   #131 
  - fast food induced malaise  AtomicKitten   Feb-15-07 12:26 PM   #27 
  - We are docile because...  ljm2002   Feb-15-07 12:32 PM   #28 
  - Corporate control of the media....n/t  Virginia Dare   Feb-15-07 12:34 PM   #29 
  - Yes. When we do organize and march, it's hardly covered.  intheflow   Feb-15-07 08:09 PM   #95 
  - Information overload, concern of losing a way of life, and fear  Az   Feb-15-07 12:40 PM   #30 
  - Which is why there were all those general strikes in the '50s....  theboss   Feb-15-07 12:43 PM   #32 
  - Good point with information overload  NoMoreMyths   Feb-15-07 12:56 PM   #38 
  - k&r (n/t)  area51   Feb-15-07 12:45 PM   #34 
  - K&R for the obvious truths of the piece.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Feb-15-07 12:48 PM   #35 
  - Which are?  theboss   Feb-15-07 12:59 PM   #40 
     - Well, the article is there for the reading.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Feb-15-07 01:17 PM   #43 
  - Great article  malaise   Feb-15-07 12:49 PM   #36 
  - Very few Americans live in true communities and have a chance to interact  mnhtnbb   Feb-15-07 01:01 PM   #41 
  - I don't know but the Germans come to mind...  DemEtienne   Feb-15-07 01:07 PM   #42 
  - Does anyone actually know about the conditions in Germany in the 20s and 30s?  theboss   Feb-15-07 03:24 PM   #56 
     - I admit  DemEtienne   Feb-15-07 03:39 PM   #63 
     - Sure...we are in the exact same place  theboss   Feb-15-07 03:55 PM   #67 
        - we are very much in the state  DemEtienne   Feb-15-07 04:01 PM   #70 
           - Tell me what this storm is  theboss   Feb-16-07 08:29 AM   #123 
              - lol,dude  DemEtienne   Feb-16-07 09:34 AM   #130 
                 - I think we have had 6 years of bad government and bad policy  theboss   Feb-16-07 12:25 PM   #139 
                    - I see,so  DemEtienne   Feb-16-07 12:45 PM   #140 
     - Great post. I can see how hyperinflation would be very demoralizing  raccoon   Feb-16-07 08:10 AM   #120 
  - Cable television and the breakdown of public education. n/t  northofdenali   Feb-15-07 02:29 PM   #48 
  - Because they fight from behind their keyboards....NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!  GreenTea   Feb-15-07 02:34 PM   #49 
  - Propaganda and omplete and full  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-15-07 02:36 PM   #50 
  - It's really difficult to organize a march when your fucking city is built for cars instead of people  Selatius   Feb-15-07 02:52 PM   #54 
  - This is a highly complicated, important topic.  Disturbed   Feb-15-07 04:10 PM   #71 
  - 1972 (Nixon vs. McGovern) was the 1st big dropoff in voter turnout  skipos   Feb-15-07 03:27 PM   #59 
  - It dropped five percent and that was exaggerated by the 18 year olds.  theboss   Feb-15-07 03:57 PM   #68 
     - True, however if you look at voter turnout over the history of our nation  greyhound1966   Feb-15-07 05:44 PM   #80 
     - I didn't know that.  skipos   Feb-15-07 08:33 PM   #97 
  - Americans have too much to lose  Raine   Feb-15-07 03:41 PM   #64 
  - Europeans have no room to talk. They follow like sheep just as we do...  Beelzebud   Feb-15-07 03:42 PM   #66 
  - The media  OnionPatch   Feb-15-07 04:51 PM   #72 
  - Bread and Circuses, my friend, Bread and Circuses  Danmel   Feb-15-07 05:09 PM   #74 
  - Is this life of knowledge so burdensome to you?  tavalon   Feb-16-07 07:24 AM   #112 
     - No, it's not burdensome  Danmel   Feb-16-07 05:37 PM   #147 
  - I think many Americans thought they were focing change in government  sadiesworld   Feb-15-07 05:43 PM   #79 
  - What do you think will happen if, after two years of Democratic control  greyhound1966   Feb-15-07 05:45 PM   #81 
     - Depends on who puts on the brakes  knight_of_the_star   Feb-15-07 06:04 PM   #86 
  - I disagree with the overall premise and would add a couple points but  Flabbergasted   Feb-15-07 05:55 PM   #82 
  - Another reason is the sad state of education in the US.  LonelyLRLiberal   Feb-15-07 06:03 PM   #85 
  - I don't think we're "economically comfortable"  djohnson   Feb-15-07 06:10 PM   #87 
  - Because most would not want to "miss their shows"..  SoCalDem   Feb-15-07 06:26 PM   #88 
  - It's not the big-screen TV per se.  Raksha   Feb-15-07 07:14 PM   #89 
  - that's fairly hilarious? usa citizens in a general strike?  pitohui   Feb-15-07 07:55 PM   #93 
  - Read this on Smirky yesterday. Excellent. K&R!  porkrind   Feb-15-07 08:07 PM   #94 
  - Because they are hypocrites who no longer stand up for the Democracy that they pretend to believe in  omega minimo   Feb-15-07 08:19 PM   #96 
  - ALSO, we have less leisure to spend even keeping track of what's being done  snot   Feb-16-07 12:34 AM   #104 
  - There must be something in the water!  Kip Humphrey   Feb-16-07 12:44 AM   #105 
  - Flouride, you mean?  Myrmidon   Feb-16-07 02:03 AM   #106 
     - edit - deleted duplicate  Myrmidon   Feb-16-07 02:07 AM   #107 
  - We've been living in a fantasy land of denial since Nov. 22, 1963  Myrmidon   Feb-16-07 02:08 AM   #108 
  - because we are afraid of being alone and exposed  NuttyFluffers   Feb-16-07 05:11 AM   #109 
  - Thanks for posting this. Great article.  raccoon   Feb-16-07 08:20 AM   #122 
  - See the first 10 min of "Idiocracy"....  Bigmack   Feb-16-07 08:42 AM   #125 
  - ttt n/t  Blue_Tires   Feb-16-07 09:00 AM   #127 
  - Several problems with this idea.  genie_weenie   Feb-16-07 10:02 AM   #132 
  - All you need to know about Economics...  AnneD   Feb-16-07 01:26 PM   #141 
     - government, bite me  genie_weenie   Feb-16-07 02:44 PM   #144 
  - Great insights. Very important read. Thanks for posting.  Mr_Jefferson_24   Feb-16-07 11:00 AM   #134 
  - because Americans are rugged individualists  DBoon   Feb-16-07 11:39 AM   #136 
  - We HAD our revolution already! that's the message encoded into our founding documents  JCMach1   Feb-16-07 01:51 PM   #142 
  - Another factor that helps keep people ignorant and complacent: Religion  Oregonian   Feb-16-07 05:20 PM   #146 
  - kick. (n/t)  area51   Feb-16-07 07:00 PM   #148 
  - The Stupidity that is American Idol. To much TEEVEE.  sarcasmo   Feb-16-07 07:01 PM   #149 

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