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96. One great example is Joan of Arc
at the time the trial was set up and the witness tortured and raped and had false witnesses

and the people cheered when they burned the witch

but they fear of her even went so far to throw her ashes all over

but then after 25 years the French King and the Church
published the transcripts and said she was innocent

Conspiracies have been around a long time

Who knows in thirty years the conspiracy theorists may be right and vindicated and the ones who called them crazy were the fools who like the Inquisition burned Saint Joan of Arc and cheered

Time will tell
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  -The final word on the people who trash conspiracy theorists. BuyingThyme  Oct-29-07 12:37 PM   #0 
  - IBTL!  dicksteele   Oct-29-07 12:41 PM   #1 
  - Very good placement.  BuyingThyme   Oct-29-07 01:35 PM   # 
     - oh come on, why ruin a good flame fest!  Javaman   Oct-29-07 02:41 PM   #80 
  - This is obviously a conspiracy to start a long and heated thread. n/t  renie408   Oct-29-07 12:42 PM   #2 
  - Actually, I believe the opposite  Lirwin2   Oct-29-07 12:45 PM   #3 
  - NO! the oligarch media used and still uses the "Bush caused 9/11!" conspiracy nuts  conspirator   Oct-29-07 12:52 PM   #6 
  - True, there are conspiracy nuts in the right  Lirwin2   Oct-29-07 01:05 PM   #16 
     - "Saddam moved the WMDs" = "Bushco took down the towers"  mondo joe   Oct-29-07 01:14 PM   #28 
     - Yup, and today they are both seen as wackos  Lirwin2   Oct-29-07 01:15 PM   #29 
     - Exactly  LeftishBrit   Oct-29-07 01:23 PM   # 
        - But the interesting part is that Bushes control the information both ways.  BuyingThyme   Oct-29-07 01:34 PM   #47 
     - So then, we who doubted Kelly's "suicide" were "nuts".  Artiechoke   Oct-29-07 01:58 PM   #61 
        - Eternal vigilance.  BuyingThyme   Oct-29-07 02:00 PM   #63 
        - I don't and didn't think that those who doubt Kelly's suicide are nuts  LeftishBrit   Oct-29-07 02:53 PM   #92 
           - Then how the do you explain the Iraq War?  BuyingThyme   Oct-29-07 02:59 PM   #95 
  - But you've proven my point.  BuyingThyme   Oct-29-07 12:54 PM   #8 
     - How so?  Lirwin2   Oct-29-07 01:02 PM   #13 
        - The reason people supported the war is because  BuyingThyme   Oct-29-07 01:08 PM   #20 
           - No, it's because they didn't bother to apply scrutiny to the claims and  mondo joe   Oct-29-07 01:10 PM   #24 
           - "Conspiracy theory" has a pretty specific definition  Lirwin2   Oct-29-07 01:12 PM   #26 
           - No, I think you're way off on that one.  BuyingThyme   Oct-29-07 01:15 PM   #30 
              - No, I don't think  Lirwin2   Oct-29-07 01:22 PM   #36 
                 - Well, a cover-up doesn't have bee be a part of a conspiracy theory,  BuyingThyme   Oct-29-07 01:27 PM   #41 
                 - There is some speculation that the neocons tried  CJCRANE   Oct-29-07 02:49 PM   #89 
           - "There are no WMD" was a conspiracy theory which has been proven.  utopiansecretagent   Oct-29-07 01:36 PM   #51 
              - You have a very broad definition of "conspiracy theory"  Lirwin2   Oct-29-07 01:40 PM   #54 
  - Indeed.  yibbehobba   Oct-29-07 12:45 PM   #4 
  - that is funny n/t  renie408   Oct-29-07 12:53 PM   #7 
  - Dear god  cgrindley   Oct-29-07 12:50 PM   #5 
  - The final word on people who do not require preponderance of evidence for claims:  Basileus Basileon   Oct-29-07 12:55 PM   #9 
  - And oddly...I agree with you 100% on this one.  renie408   Oct-29-07 12:57 PM   #10 
  - You've just smacked the faces of everybody who believes  BuyingThyme   Oct-29-07 12:59 PM   #11 
  - Do you disagree? nt  Basileus Basileon   Oct-29-07 01:00 PM   #12 
     - Do I agree that the only way to get to the truth  BuyingThyme   Oct-29-07 01:03 PM   #14 
        - No, I mean do you disagree with my claim that  Basileus Basileon   Oct-29-07 01:05 PM   #15 
           - No, not at all. I think authoritarianism is 100% responsible for the Iraq War  BuyingThyme   Oct-29-07 01:11 PM   #25 
              - I said nothing about authoritarianism.  Basileus Basileon   Oct-29-07 02:18 PM   #71 
                 - I said I think authoritarianism is 100% responsible for the Iraq War...  BuyingThyme   Oct-29-07 02:42 PM   #83 
  - This post needs to be K&R.  mondo joe   Oct-29-07 01:06 PM   #17 
  - Bush's claim that Saddam was behind 911 was a conspiracy theory.  mondo joe   Oct-29-07 01:07 PM   #18 
  - And both claims deserved to be trashed. nt  Basileus Basileon   Oct-29-07 01:08 PM   #19 
  - True. Americans are too quick to jump on any explanation that makes them feel  mondo joe   Oct-29-07 01:10 PM   #22 
  - No, those were not conspiracy theories.  BuyingThyme   Oct-29-07 01:17 PM   #31 
     - Sure they were. And they continue to this day. Like "Saddam moved the WMDs".  mondo joe   Oct-29-07 01:19 PM   #33 
        - Those are not, and have never been, working theories.  BuyingThyme   Oct-29-07 01:22 PM   #35 
           - No, they were CONSPIRACY theories. So was Clinton killing Vince Foster.  mondo joe   Oct-29-07 01:23 PM   #37 
           - What you're saying is silly.  BuyingThyme   Oct-29-07 01:31 PM   #45 
              - When certifiable people call me silly, I know I'm on the right track.  mondo joe   Oct-29-07 01:34 PM   #48 
                 - self-delete n/t  Artiechoke   Oct-29-07 01:42 PM   #55 
                 - Tell it to the OP  cali   Oct-29-07 02:07 PM   #65 
                 - Well, if you didn't feel so silly,  BuyingThyme   Oct-29-07 01:42 PM   #56 
                 - no kidding.  cali   Oct-29-07 01:42 PM   #57 
                    - Everybody say hi to my stalker, Cali.  BuyingThyme   Oct-29-07 01:45 PM   #58 
                       - calling someone a stalker  cali   Oct-29-07 02:09 PM   #66 
                          - Yes, but since you stalk me in other threads, you're only smearing yourself.  BuyingThyme   Oct-29-07 02:36 PM   #75 
                             - You're just delusional  cali   Oct-29-07 02:41 PM   #81 
                                - Oh, no. Now that I caught him doing it again, he's calling me spongie!  BuyingThyme   Oct-29-07 02:44 PM   #85 
                                   - Really?  Rex   Oct-29-07 02:45 PM   #86 
           - What distinction do you make between the two?  Lirwin2   Oct-29-07 01:23 PM   #38 
              - One is trying to find truth, and the other is trying to spread lies.  BuyingThyme   Oct-29-07 01:33 PM   #46 
                 - But how do you know what they are saying is a "lie"?  Lirwin2   Oct-29-07 01:35 PM   #49 
                    - Downing street, fake photos, blue fingers.  BuyingThyme   Oct-29-07 01:36 PM   #50 
                       - I'm referring to the "vince foster" conspiracy theory  Lirwin2   Oct-29-07 01:37 PM   #52 
  - That's the final word?...  SidDithers   Oct-29-07 01:09 PM   #21 
  - So, if it wasn't he authoritarians, who was it?  BuyingThyme   Oct-29-07 01:18 PM   #32 
     - The neocons gave you the Iraq war...  SidDithers   Oct-29-07 01:26 PM   #40 
        - Well, you could have just said that I had it absolutely right.  BuyingThyme   Oct-29-07 01:38 PM   #53 
  - It's not paranoia if they're really out to get you!!  Beelzebud   Oct-29-07 01:10 PM   #23 
  - Its really the people who are willing to believe  NeedleCast   Oct-29-07 01:13 PM   #27 
  - There's stupid and then there's  cali   Oct-29-07 01:21 PM   #34 
  - Yes, then there's "Posted by cali."  BuyingThyme   Oct-29-07 01:29 PM   #44 
  - ROFL  alcibiades_mystery   Oct-29-07 02:12 PM   #69 
     - You used to be able to make some decent points.  BuyingThyme   Oct-29-07 02:50 PM   #90 
        - That hurts so much after your well-considered, detailed,  alcibiades_mystery   Oct-29-07 02:58 PM   #94 
  - I thought Bush, Pearle, Wolfowitz, Exxon, and BP...  LanternWaste   Oct-29-07 01:26 PM   #39 
  - I thought the same though the devil (Cheney) probably played the greatest role  LeftishBrit   Oct-29-07 01:27 PM   #42 
  - I'll assume you have greater insight into Blair's policies than I do  LanternWaste   Oct-29-07 02:03 PM   #64 
     - Re Blair...  LeftishBrit   Oct-29-07 02:21 PM   #72 
  - Participants excepted.  BuyingThyme   Oct-29-07 01:28 PM   #43 
     - I'm afraid I don't understand your reply...  LanternWaste   Oct-29-07 02:00 PM   #62 
  - If that's your final word, will you finally shut up?  Perry Logan   Oct-29-07 01:51 PM   #59 
  - Are you lost, little girl?  BuyingThyme   Oct-29-07 01:55 PM   #60 
     - Yes; everyone who is not with us is against us!  LeftishBrit   Oct-29-07 02:26 PM   #73 
        - No, anyone who questions debate is against us.  BuyingThyme   Oct-29-07 02:38 PM   #78 
  - That's dumb  alcibiades_mystery   Oct-29-07 02:10 PM   #67 
  - I knew I shouldn't have clicked on this link.  bryant69   Oct-29-07 02:11 PM   #68 
  - And soon the Iran war - 'Iran cannot be allowed to build a nuclear weapon.'  Rex   Oct-29-07 02:14 PM   #70 
  - What utter nonsense  cali   Oct-29-07 02:34 PM   #74 
  - Well then you obviously have a closed mind.  Rex   Oct-29-07 02:36 PM   #76 
     - bwahaha  cali   Oct-29-07 02:40 PM   #79 
        - Funny  Rex   Oct-29-07 02:41 PM   #82 
  - Well, here's one person who hates CTs,..  LeftishBrit   Oct-29-07 02:46 PM   #88 
     - Comparing apples to oranges is usually a waste of time.  Rex   Oct-29-07 02:52 PM   #91 
  - Well, you're the ones that gave us the holocaust.  Bornaginhooligan   Oct-29-07 02:37 PM   #77 
  - Wiffle ball bat meet dead horse. nt  Javaman   Oct-29-07 02:43 PM   #84 
  - Wiffle ball bat meet Tonkin.  BuyingThyme   Oct-29-07 02:46 PM   #87 
  - As far as many of us are concerned, our entire civilization  truedelphi   Oct-29-07 02:55 PM   #93 
  - One great example is Joan of Arc  lovuian   Oct-29-07 02:59 PM   #96 
  - Locking.  Skinner   Oct-29-07 03:00 PM   #97 

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