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Reply #24: I disagree. It's not difficult to separate economic libertarianism from social libertarianism. [View All]

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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 03:41 PM
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24. I disagree. It's not difficult to separate economic libertarianism from social libertarianism.
It's very simple, but it requires the ability to separate small-l libertarianism the philosophy from the big-L Libertarian Party. And the recognition that NEITHER party is speaking effectively to people who want civil liberties restored, want the government out of citizens' bodies, bedrooms, and bloodstreams, want an end to the drug war, want prison space reserved for violent criminals and not pot smoking cancer grannies, don't think government should be in the business of censoring films or pictures of consenting adults having sex, think gays should have full equal rights, including marriage rights, etc.

And as for the economic libs being "worse"... Well, look at it this way- right now the GOP has embodied the absolute WORST of the WORST of the economic libertarian philosophy- frankly, business regulation and oversight has been stripped down as much as physically feasable. If you think there are folks out there who are MORE anti-regulation and oversight than the Bushies, give them their number, and the Bushies will hire them. But what the GOP has done is combined this with spending like a drunken sailor on shit like Iraq.

That's why I say we can reach ALL the libertarian types- even the economic ones- because they have to know that no matter who is in charge, SOME money is going to be spent by gov't. So should it be on a SPHC system, or on idiotic wars based on lies? Research into clean renewable fuels? Or the Military Industrial Complex?

I think the place for our party to start is to articulate a strong, across the board personal freedom agenda- equal rights for GLBT citizens (incl. marriage), unapologetic support for reproductive freedom, an end to the worst idiocies of the drug war, the right of terminally ill people to a pain-free, dignified exit of their own choosing, getting gov't out of the censorship/morals business where consenting adults are concerned, etc.

Then combine that with support for a SPHC system, a liveable minimum wage, investments in our infrastructure, etc. Explain to the econo-libs why these things make sense from a fiscal standpoint, and in the process we would bring on board disaffected greens as well.

The only people who it would piss off are the DLC conventional wisdom folks, who want the party to be nothing except GOP-lite.
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