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| 130. Isn't corporatocracy the same as Fascism? That is what we are headed for here..if no one can stop it |
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Edited on Mon Oct-29-07 09:07 AM by BrklynLib at work
It is so very sad to think that there are still so many non-corporate millionaires out there who believe that corprations have the best interests of the people at heart.The only reason most of them do anything charitable or socially redeemable is that they are either getting a tax break, or a rezoning permit.
The corporate bottom line and the stockholders are ALL they care about.
If only there was a way to change the law and take "personhood" away from the corporations... Now THAT would be a victory!
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| -A former right-wingers advice on how to destroy a key pillar of right-wing ideology |
MN Against Bush |
Oct-28-07 02:07 PM |
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A hearty K&R |
BushOut06 |
Oct-28-07 02:11 PM |
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K&R? |
Ricki |
Oct-28-07 08:13 PM |
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Kick & Recommend |
BushOut06 |
Oct-28-07 08:22 PM |
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Thank you! |
Ricki |
Oct-28-07 08:39 PM |
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Yeah, thank you, but also, NO SHIT! |
King Coal |
Oct-29-07 07:16 AM |
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Welcome! |
rabies1 |
Oct-29-07 09:22 AM |
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k & r |
niyad |
Oct-28-07 02:11 PM |
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We need an updated version of the term "Robber Baron." Maybe |
alfredo |
Oct-28-07 02:16 PM |
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Robber-Baron will work. Pirate will work. Pirates in Pinstripes will work. |
calimary |
Oct-28-07 02:37 PM |
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I like Robber Barons. |
alfredo |
Oct-28-07 02:52 PM |
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Because 19 chins just aren't enough. |
Jim Sagle |
Oct-28-07 03:31 PM |
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when he was born, the doctor slapped the mother. |
alfredo |
Oct-28-07 04:41 PM |
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I thought |
Johnny Noshoes |
Oct-28-07 07:47 PM |
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he also exists in high fever hallucinations |
alfredo |
Oct-29-07 02:13 PM |
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Yikes! That looks like the UFO baby on the cover of the Weekly World News |
calimary |
Oct-28-07 11:47 PM |
#85 |
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I'd almost erased the image of Jabba the CEO from my memory... |
Buns_of_Fire |
Oct-29-07 06:39 AM |
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He's so ugly even his money wouldn't get him laid. |
alfredo |
Oct-29-07 02:14 PM |
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Aaaargh! I be takin'exception to the speakin' of Pirates that way, matey! |
utopiansecretagent |
Oct-28-07 07:56 PM |
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Ramen! |
silverweb |
Oct-28-07 08:56 PM |
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Benedict Arnold Corporations |
NBachers |
Oct-28-07 08:49 PM |
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Yep, that's another good one. Anything that evokes a word picture. |
calimary |
Oct-28-07 11:50 PM |
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Lincoln said it best. |
alfredo |
Oct-29-07 02:20 PM |
#167 |
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kings and serfs will work - kingdoms serfdoms |
higher class |
Oct-29-07 09:20 AM |
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Their successes just keep rolling in when it comes to winning the |
higher class |
Oct-29-07 09:25 AM |
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Yet the Baronial Ones themselves do NOT do any of the actual WORK! |
vickitulsa |
Oct-29-07 10:31 AM |
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CORPORATE CASINO |
clarence swinney |
Oct-29-07 01:25 PM |
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Agree on all counts. |
vickitulsa |
Oct-29-07 04:40 PM |
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If a company moves off shore, let its products rot on the shelves. |
alfredo |
Oct-29-07 08:34 PM |
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Call them all "Simon Legree". |
kestrel91316 |
Oct-29-07 11:27 AM |
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Ivy League Mafia |
formercia |
Oct-28-07 03:49 PM |
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Right. This group is WORSE than the Mob. |
AllyCat |
Oct-28-07 08:46 PM |
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And at least the Mob has principles |
knight_of_the_star |
Oct-28-07 09:09 PM |
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Funny you mention that |
formercia |
Oct-29-07 05:56 AM |
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The Biggest Protection Racket in the History of the World |
NBachers |
Oct-28-07 08:53 PM |
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Corporatist is the word. That's what the bushies are. |
muntrv |
Oct-28-07 05:23 PM |
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Predatory Capitalism... |
Polemicist |
Oct-28-07 11:43 PM |
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Powerful indeed. Very good explanation of Freidman vs Keynes vs Marxist |
Yael |
Oct-29-07 10:04 AM |
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Well done, another K&R |
Warpy |
Oct-28-07 02:17 PM |
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that and .... Why put someone in charge of something they don't |
klyon |
Oct-29-07 06:09 AM |
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It's the corporations, stupid! |
tbyg52 |
Oct-28-07 02:21 PM |
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there is another key pillar of right-wing ideology |
flyingfysh |
Oct-28-07 02:25 PM |
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Yes, they still have the War on Christmas to fight! nt |
I Have A Dream |
Oct-28-07 02:29 PM |
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It's hard to get rid of |
CJCRANE |
Oct-28-07 02:36 PM |
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I was never a fundamentalist so I did not include that... |
MN Against Bush |
Oct-28-07 03:03 PM |
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What do you make of the fact that so many RWingers who would be better off |
CTyankee |
Oct-28-07 05:38 PM |
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I think the number one reason is that they don't know their interests are being betrayed |
MN Against Bush |
Oct-28-07 08:08 PM |
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But that is so tough. They can see in their own lives what is going on! |
CTyankee |
Oct-28-07 08:35 PM |
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I really don't know if they can see... |
MN Against Bush |
Oct-28-07 09:26 PM |
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That's because the media is a corporation too. |
AllyCat |
Oct-28-07 08:48 PM |
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You hit the nail on the head right there! |
mwb970 |
Oct-29-07 07:01 AM |
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It is a proven fact that propaganda, good public relations, gossip and the like are more strongly |
IsItJustMe |
Oct-29-07 08:46 AM |
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Democrats will not promote success |
clarence swinney |
Oct-29-07 01:48 PM |
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Uneducated Populance |
clarence swinney |
Oct-29-07 01:43 PM |
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two words racism and abortion |
klyon |
Oct-29-07 06:15 AM |
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The answer to this you can find in the book Hunting with Jesus |
Truthy Nessy |
Oct-29-07 09:25 AM |
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Abortion, Gay Rights and Guns |
Yael |
Oct-29-07 10:07 AM |
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A grand deception that starts with their 'Left Behind' eschatology |
EVDebs |
Oct-28-07 04:04 PM |
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You wouldn't like preterism any better..... |
bjorkfan |
Oct-28-07 08:19 PM |
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Welcome to DU! |
calimary |
Oct-28-07 11:56 PM |
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Most liberal Christians are very Green. and the Bible speaks of 'stewardship' |
EVDebs |
Oct-29-07 06:23 PM |
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Yes, and with theological groups such as Kingdom Now, Joel's Army, and a host of other monikers |
Yael |
Oct-29-07 10:10 AM |
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Also include, greed and fear; Corporate bribery and Religious fire and brimstone. |
dickbearton |
Oct-28-07 04:52 PM |
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I think the fundies are being used by corporate repubs |
bad_robbie |
Oct-29-07 08:45 AM |
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I should have mentioned a very good reference |
flyingfysh |
Oct-29-07 01:38 PM |
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As a life long Democrat and an appreciative union member, my advice |
PollThis |
Oct-28-07 02:32 PM |
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If only! It always means good things down the ballot to the local races. |
calimary |
Oct-29-07 12:08 AM |
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It's Not Capitalism Anymore When Robber Barons Buy the Government |
AndyTiedye |
Oct-28-07 02:35 PM |
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Bravo! Excellent! K&R n/t |
antigop |
Oct-28-07 02:44 PM |
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Some of the same thinking here in Sirota's article.... |
antigop |
Oct-28-07 02:46 PM |
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Isn't it a little juvenile to wholly distrust one entity while embracing another? |
Iris |
Oct-28-07 02:51 PM |
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Yes, there is a lot of black and white thinking on the matter... |
MN Against Bush |
Oct-28-07 03:09 PM |
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I agree. I also think it is fairly obvious the ONLY way to fix things is to |
Iris |
Oct-28-07 03:13 PM |
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Why Not Do This? |
stirlingsliver |
Oct-28-07 04:57 PM |
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yeah. Chaos and anarchy. That's the way to go. |
Iris |
Oct-28-07 08:36 PM |
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Socialized Health Care scares the be-Jesus out of them. You might |
B Calm |
Oct-28-07 02:56 PM |
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There re moves afoot to privatize those other things too. |
Jackpine Radical |
Oct-28-07 06:38 PM |
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your right it is a common misconception |
fenriswolf |
Oct-28-07 03:05 PM |
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I am also traveling from right to left.. |
SparkyMac |
Oct-28-07 03:17 PM |
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Welcome to DU, SparkyMac! |
Jim Sagle |
Oct-28-07 03:33 PM |
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Welcome, Sparky Mac. |
truedelphi |
Oct-28-07 04:18 PM |
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Welcome, Sparky. |
Jackpine Radical |
Oct-28-07 06:41 PM |
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Whoa! Excellent! Welcome, SparkyMac! |
calimary |
Oct-29-07 12:12 AM |
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Nice job... |
timeforarevolution |
Oct-28-07 03:18 PM |
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Currenlty reading "The Big Con" by Johnathan Chait |
underpants |
Oct-28-07 03:21 PM |
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What everyone should also realize - with all four industries that |
higher class |
Oct-29-07 09:52 AM |
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It's like I've always said; |
WileEcoyote |
Oct-28-07 03:27 PM |
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I think "corporations," like "business," is a broad term, too. |
Sparkly |
Oct-28-07 03:27 PM |
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Big doesn't equal bad. Small doesn't equal good. |
eallen |
Oct-28-07 03:33 PM |
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I'm thinking or hoping (or maybe both) that when most people |
truedelphi |
Oct-28-07 04:26 PM |
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Well, there are people who think profit is bad, in and of itself. |
eallen |
Oct-28-07 05:08 PM |
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Nor did I say all big was bad and all small was good... |
MN Against Bush |
Oct-28-07 08:16 PM |
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The six pillars of Republican power |
krispos42 |
Oct-28-07 03:40 PM |
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Yes, you're close. |
Somawas |
Oct-29-07 10:13 AM |
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Corporations should be democratized |
GeneCosta |
Oct-28-07 03:56 PM |
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Pre-existing corporations offer unequal representation at best. |
Selatius |
Oct-28-07 04:13 PM |
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Do you expect that ever to be more than a fraction of businesses? |
eallen |
Oct-28-07 05:33 PM |
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In the current order of things, never. There's a problem with conflict of interest. |
Selatius |
Oct-28-07 05:50 PM |
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The events I describe require no conflict of interest at all. |
eallen |
Oct-28-07 06:15 PM |
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No, I was generally speaking to the issue of government regulation of the markets. |
Selatius |
Oct-29-07 11:41 AM |
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You're 100% correct |
GeneCosta |
Oct-28-07 06:49 PM |
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Welcome! |
calimary |
Oct-29-07 12:26 AM |
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But Couldn't The Government Also Be Viewed As A Big Corporation |
stirlingsliver |
Oct-28-07 04:45 PM |
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The question isn't big government or small; the question is corruption of government . . .. |
defendandprotect |
Oct-28-07 11:58 PM |
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Corporatist is the word. That's what the bushies are. |
muntrv |
Oct-28-07 05:22 PM |
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That's pretty much what turned me totally against the repub party |
lyonn |
Oct-28-07 05:26 PM |
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Bueno |
SpiralHawk |
Oct-28-07 06:16 PM |
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It's beyond the corporate entities. |
OxQQme |
Oct-28-07 07:24 PM |
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As more and more people |
femrap |
Oct-28-07 07:34 PM |
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When one single Corporation can make a NET PROFIT of OVER one hundred million a DAY |
Toots |
Oct-28-07 07:57 PM |
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This is a major issue and why capitalism, itself, must be examined .. .. |
defendandprotect |
Oct-29-07 12:03 AM |
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Excellent post! |
bushwentawol |
Oct-28-07 08:43 PM |
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I think they recognize that corporate "personhood" wasn't official established, but .... |
defendandprotect |
Oct-29-07 12:05 AM |
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I love your point about not moving the center! |
AllyCat |
Oct-28-07 08:45 PM |
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But it trickles down... |
Baby Snooks |
Oct-28-07 09:01 PM |
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Swamp Rat should make us a picture of a fat rich dude standing on an ornate |
AikidoSoul |
Oct-28-07 10:19 PM |
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Just scroll back up... |
Baby Snooks |
Oct-28-07 11:53 PM |
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Remember Enron? |
dougolat |
Oct-29-07 12:02 AM |
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Yes! And look how far they got in their destruction of California before they were stopped -- !!!! |
defendandprotect |
Oct-29-07 12:12 AM |
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Yes! And look how far they got in their destruction of California before they were stopped -- !!!! |
defendandprotect |
Oct-29-07 12:12 AM |
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Welcome to DU, to you, also! |
calimary |
Oct-29-07 02:31 AM |
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Oops, dupe. |
calimary |
Oct-29-07 02:31 AM |
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great post baby snooks - but I go a step further - there is a charade |
higher class |
Oct-29-07 10:20 AM |
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The charade |
Baby Snooks |
Oct-29-07 11:51 AM |
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As a small business owner, I've been totally screwed |
bleever |
Oct-28-07 09:22 PM |
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If it's any consolation... |
Baby Snooks |
Oct-29-07 12:53 AM |
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"Venture capitalism." Maybe we should start calling it "VULTURE capitalism." |
calimary |
Oct-29-07 02:50 AM |
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And always circling above... |
Baby Snooks |
Oct-29-07 10:48 AM |
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Eloquently put, bleever. |
calimary |
Oct-29-07 02:47 AM |
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What about socialism applied to religion?.... |
bjorkfan |
Oct-28-07 09:35 PM |
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"Many people wonder how I could make a shift ,,, |
Malidictus Maximus |
Oct-28-07 09:52 PM |
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Good Will Rogers quote there. And Welcome to DU! |
calimary |
Oct-29-07 02:53 AM |
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You've hit the nail on the head squarely here. It echoes something I heard RFK Jr say... |
ms liberty |
Oct-28-07 09:58 PM |
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Count me in with you. I made my conversion about 4 years ago. |
Roland99 |
Oct-28-07 10:04 PM |
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Small business people are a natural progressive constituency |
Spiffarino |
Oct-28-07 10:19 PM |
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One we haven't taken advantage of nearly enough! |
OnionPatch |
Oct-29-07 08:23 AM |
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The function of most big corps is to drown small competitors |
Spiffarino |
Oct-30-07 10:11 PM |
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Brilliant and convincing. K&R. |
Basileus Basileon |
Oct-28-07 11:01 PM |
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Thanks very much for your comments. Yeah, the problem with privatization is that |
codjh9 |
Oct-28-07 11:12 PM |
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they're not even pro-corporation. they're pro-corporate DONORS |
unblock |
Oct-28-07 11:52 PM |
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It's a fault in they're fundamental logic. |
NoGodsNoMasters |
Oct-29-07 12:14 AM |
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We need to move the center out of the right |
iburl |
Oct-29-07 01:03 AM |
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I disagree on a couple points |
Dewlso |
Oct-29-07 01:12 AM |
#102 |
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Cool - three more! Welcome, NoGodsNoMasters, iburl, and Dewlso! |
calimary |
Oct-29-07 02:56 AM |
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Good post. Ask your friends if the falling value of the US Dollar is Clinton's fault. |
Peake |
Oct-29-07 01:30 AM |
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So it's an inherent belief of theirs that Democracy is bad? |
Lorien |
Oct-29-07 02:02 AM |
#104 |
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Don't forget Regan tought them spin. |
Froward69 |
Oct-29-07 03:33 AM |
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Then eliminate the corporation |
TomClash |
Oct-29-07 04:42 AM |
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Strongly agree! |
Apollo11 |
Oct-29-07 05:32 AM |
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Dem's should be pro-business but make "A seperation of Corporations |
harun |
Oct-29-07 06:23 AM |
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Excellent post! |
No Surrender |
Oct-29-07 06:37 AM |
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How can anyone trust a corporation? |
meowomon |
Oct-29-07 07:29 AM |
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Reframe it - Corporatiism |
LiberalEsto |
Oct-29-07 07:41 AM |
#123 |
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Yacht Sales are UP! |
tincanguy |
Oct-29-07 07:52 AM |
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Best, most practical post this year. The key is also stockholders. |
higher class |
Oct-29-07 08:29 AM |
#126 |
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There is an excellent work published on exactly this |
Yael |
Oct-29-07 10:20 AM |
#144 |
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They say a liberal is a conservative who's never been mugged. |
Feles Mala |
Oct-29-07 08:49 AM |
#129 |
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Isn't corporatocracy the same as Fascism? That is what we are headed for here..if no one can stop it |
BrklynLib at work |
Oct-29-07 09:06 AM |
#130 |
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I could have written this as I have walked in your shoes and taken the same journey |
Yael |
Oct-29-07 09:54 AM |
#136 |
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That is fiscal conservative but ... |
chemp |
Oct-29-07 10:09 AM |
#139 |
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Thank you for saying this |
Hydra |
Oct-29-07 10:12 AM |
#141 |
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The Reagan Revolution was built on demonizing the poor & middle class and lionizing big corporations |
Oregonian |
Oct-29-07 10:26 AM |
#145 |
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karmaBanque dot com |
maxkeiser |
Oct-29-07 10:30 AM |
#146 |
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that's a scary thought |
DemReadingDU |
Oct-29-07 06:47 PM |
#171 |
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Good points. Back in the old days (pre-outsourcing), |
Vinca |
Oct-29-07 11:00 AM |
#149 |
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Where I come from "leftist" is generally used as a slur against |
kestrel91316 |
Oct-29-07 11:24 AM |
#150 |
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Bravo ! |
bearfan454 |
Oct-29-07 11:49 AM |
#153 |
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K & R |
tom_paine |
Oct-29-07 11:52 AM |
#155 |
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The Right Wing Does a Bait-and-Switch |
ribofunk |
Oct-29-07 12:11 PM |
#156 |
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trust in corporations? huh? |
ryanus |
Oct-29-07 01:23 PM |
#157 |
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Outstanding post MN Against Bush! |
Uncle Joe |
Oct-29-07 01:33 PM |
#159 |
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K+R. Thank you for such an excellent post! n/t |
Artiechoke |
Oct-29-07 01:47 PM |
#162 |
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Do you mean to say you didn't recognize that the republicon party |
FREEWILL56 |
Oct-29-07 02:18 PM |
#166 |
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Excellent!!! Thanks |
Doc Martin |
Oct-29-07 04:49 PM |
#169 |
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