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GeneCosta Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 06:49 PM
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51. You're 100% correct
Stock voting is not democratic. I don't think how much stock you own should have any bearing on how many votes you get. If you want to enter stocks just for financial reasons, then so be it.

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  -A former right-wingers advice on how to destroy a key pillar of right-wing ideology MN Against Bush  Oct-28-07 02:07 PM   #0 
  - A hearty K&R  BushOut06   Oct-28-07 02:11 PM   #1 
  - K&R?  Ricki   Oct-28-07 08:13 PM   #58 
     - Kick & Recommend  BushOut06   Oct-28-07 08:22 PM   #61 
     - Thank you!  Ricki   Oct-28-07 08:39 PM   #64 
        - Yeah, thank you, but also, NO SHIT!  King Coal   Oct-29-07 07:16 AM   #121 
     - Welcome!  rabies1   Oct-29-07 09:22 AM   #132 
  - k & r  niyad   Oct-28-07 02:11 PM   #2 
  - We need an updated version of the term "Robber Baron." Maybe  alfredo   Oct-28-07 02:16 PM   #3 
  - Robber-Baron will work. Pirate will work. Pirates in Pinstripes will work.  calimary   Oct-28-07 02:37 PM   #11 
  - I like Robber Barons.  alfredo   Oct-28-07 02:52 PM   #15 
  - Because 19 chins just aren't enough.  Jim Sagle   Oct-28-07 03:31 PM   #26 
  - when he was born, the doctor slapped the mother.  alfredo   Oct-28-07 04:41 PM   #36 
  - I thought  Johnny Noshoes   Oct-28-07 07:47 PM   #54 
     - he also exists in high fever hallucinations  alfredo   Oct-29-07 02:13 PM   #164 
  - Yikes! That looks like the UFO baby on the cover of the Weekly World News  calimary   Oct-28-07 11:47 PM   #85 
  - I'd almost erased the image of Jabba the CEO from my memory...  Buns_of_Fire   Oct-29-07 06:39 AM   #119 
     - He's so ugly even his money wouldn't get him laid.  alfredo   Oct-29-07 02:14 PM   #165 
  - Aaaargh! I be takin'exception to the speakin' of Pirates that way, matey!  utopiansecretagent   Oct-28-07 07:56 PM   #55 
  - Ramen!  silverweb   Oct-28-07 08:56 PM   #71 
  - Benedict Arnold Corporations  NBachers   Oct-28-07 08:49 PM   #69 
  - Yep, that's another good one. Anything that evokes a word picture.  calimary   Oct-28-07 11:50 PM   #86 
  - Lincoln said it best.  alfredo   Oct-29-07 02:20 PM   #167 
  - kings and serfs will work - kingdoms serfdoms  higher class   Oct-29-07 09:20 AM   #131 
  - Their successes just keep rolling in when it comes to winning the  higher class   Oct-29-07 09:25 AM   #133 
  - Yet the Baronial Ones themselves do NOT do any of the actual WORK!  vickitulsa   Oct-29-07 10:31 AM   #147 
  - CORPORATE CASINO  clarence swinney   Oct-29-07 01:25 PM   #158 
     - Agree on all counts.  vickitulsa   Oct-29-07 04:40 PM   #168 
     - If a company moves off shore, let its products rot on the shelves.  alfredo   Oct-29-07 08:34 PM   #172 
  - Call them all "Simon Legree".  kestrel91316   Oct-29-07 11:27 AM   #151 
  - Ivy League Mafia  formercia   Oct-28-07 03:49 PM   #30 
  - Right. This group is WORSE than the Mob.  AllyCat   Oct-28-07 08:46 PM   #67 
  - And at least the Mob has principles  knight_of_the_star   Oct-28-07 09:09 PM   #73 
     - Funny you mention that  formercia   Oct-29-07 05:56 AM   #114 
  - The Biggest Protection Racket in the History of the World  NBachers   Oct-28-07 08:53 PM   #70 
  - Corporatist is the word. That's what the bushies are.  muntrv   Oct-28-07 05:23 PM   #42 
  - Predatory Capitalism...  Polemicist   Oct-28-07 11:43 PM   #84 
     - Powerful indeed. Very good explanation of Freidman vs Keynes vs Marxist  Yael   Oct-29-07 10:04 AM   #137 
  - Well done, another K&R  Warpy   Oct-28-07 02:17 PM   #4 
  - that and .... Why put someone in charge of something they don't  klyon   Oct-29-07 06:09 AM   #115 
  - It's the corporations, stupid!  tbyg52   Oct-28-07 02:21 PM   #5 
  - there is another key pillar of right-wing ideology  flyingfysh   Oct-28-07 02:25 PM   #6 
  - Yes, they still have the War on Christmas to fight! nt  I Have A Dream   Oct-28-07 02:29 PM   #7 
  - It's hard to get rid of  CJCRANE   Oct-28-07 02:36 PM   #10 
  - I was never a fundamentalist so I did not include that...  MN Against Bush   Oct-28-07 03:03 PM   #17 
  - What do you make of the fact that so many RWingers who would be better off  CTyankee   Oct-28-07 05:38 PM   #45 
     - I think the number one reason is that they don't know their interests are being betrayed  MN Against Bush   Oct-28-07 08:08 PM   #57 
     - But that is so tough. They can see in their own lives what is going on!  CTyankee   Oct-28-07 08:35 PM   #62 
     - I really don't know if they can see...  MN Against Bush   Oct-28-07 09:26 PM   #75 
     - That's because the media is a corporation too.  AllyCat   Oct-28-07 08:48 PM   #68 
     - You hit the nail on the head right there!  mwb970   Oct-29-07 07:01 AM   #120 
     - It is a proven fact that propaganda, good public relations, gossip and the like are more strongly  IsItJustMe   Oct-29-07 08:46 AM   #128 
     - Democrats will not promote success  clarence swinney   Oct-29-07 01:48 PM   #163 
     - Uneducated Populance  clarence swinney   Oct-29-07 01:43 PM   #161 
     - two words racism and abortion  klyon   Oct-29-07 06:15 AM   #116 
     - The answer to this you can find in the book Hunting with Jesus  Truthy Nessy   Oct-29-07 09:25 AM   #134 
     - Abortion, Gay Rights and Guns  Yael   Oct-29-07 10:07 AM   #138 
  - A grand deception that starts with their 'Left Behind' eschatology  EVDebs   Oct-28-07 04:04 PM   #32 
  - You wouldn't like preterism any better.....  bjorkfan   Oct-28-07 08:19 PM   #60 
     - Welcome to DU!  calimary   Oct-28-07 11:56 PM   #89 
     - Most liberal Christians are very Green. and the Bible speaks of 'stewardship'  EVDebs   Oct-29-07 06:23 PM   #170 
     - Yes, and with theological groups such as Kingdom Now, Joel's Army, and a host of other monikers  Yael   Oct-29-07 10:10 AM   #140 
  - Also include, greed and fear; Corporate bribery and Religious fire and brimstone.  dickbearton   Oct-28-07 04:52 PM   #38 
  - I think the fundies are being used by corporate repubs  bad_robbie   Oct-29-07 08:45 AM   #127 
  - I should have mentioned a very good reference  flyingfysh   Oct-29-07 01:38 PM   #160 
  - As a life long Democrat and an appreciative union member, my advice  PollThis   Oct-28-07 02:32 PM   #8 
  - If only! It always means good things down the ballot to the local races.  calimary   Oct-29-07 12:08 AM   #94 
  - It's Not Capitalism Anymore When Robber Barons Buy the Government  AndyTiedye   Oct-28-07 02:35 PM   #9 
  - Bravo! Excellent! K&R n/t  antigop   Oct-28-07 02:44 PM   #12 
  - Some of the same thinking here in Sirota's article....  antigop   Oct-28-07 02:46 PM   #13 
  - Isn't it a little juvenile to wholly distrust one entity while embracing another?  Iris   Oct-28-07 02:51 PM   #14 
  - Yes, there is a lot of black and white thinking on the matter...  MN Against Bush   Oct-28-07 03:09 PM   #19 
     - I agree. I also think it is fairly obvious the ONLY way to fix things is to  Iris   Oct-28-07 03:13 PM   #20 
     - Why Not Do This?  stirlingsliver   Oct-28-07 04:57 PM   #39 
        - yeah. Chaos and anarchy. That's the way to go.  Iris   Oct-28-07 08:36 PM   #63 
  - Socialized Health Care scares the be-Jesus out of them. You might  B Calm   Oct-28-07 02:56 PM   #16 
  - There re moves afoot to privatize those other things too.  Jackpine Radical   Oct-28-07 06:38 PM   #49 
  - your right it is a common misconception  fenriswolf   Oct-28-07 03:05 PM   #18 
  - I am also traveling from right to left..  SparkyMac   Oct-28-07 03:17 PM   #21 
  - Welcome to DU, SparkyMac!  Jim Sagle   Oct-28-07 03:33 PM   #27 
  - Welcome, Sparky Mac.  truedelphi   Oct-28-07 04:18 PM   #34 
  - Welcome, Sparky.  Jackpine Radical   Oct-28-07 06:41 PM   #50 
  - Whoa! Excellent! Welcome, SparkyMac!  calimary   Oct-29-07 12:12 AM   #97 
  - Nice job...  timeforarevolution   Oct-28-07 03:18 PM   #22 
  - Currenlty reading "The Big Con" by Johnathan Chait  underpants   Oct-28-07 03:21 PM   #23 
  - What everyone should also realize - with all four industries that  higher class   Oct-29-07 09:52 AM   #135 
  - It's like I've always said;  WileEcoyote   Oct-28-07 03:27 PM   #24 
  - I think "corporations," like "business," is a broad term, too.  Sparkly   Oct-28-07 03:27 PM   #25 
  - Big doesn't equal bad. Small doesn't equal good.  eallen   Oct-28-07 03:33 PM   #28 
  - I'm thinking or hoping (or maybe both) that when most people  truedelphi   Oct-28-07 04:26 PM   #35 
  - Well, there are people who think profit is bad, in and of itself.  eallen   Oct-28-07 05:08 PM   #40 
  - Nor did I say all big was bad and all small was good...  MN Against Bush   Oct-28-07 08:16 PM   #59 
  - The six pillars of Republican power  krispos42   Oct-28-07 03:40 PM   #29 
  - Yes, you're close.  Somawas   Oct-29-07 10:13 AM   #142 
  - Corporations should be democratized  GeneCosta   Oct-28-07 03:56 PM   #31 
  - Pre-existing corporations offer unequal representation at best.  Selatius   Oct-28-07 04:13 PM   #33 
  - Do you expect that ever to be more than a fraction of businesses?  eallen   Oct-28-07 05:33 PM   #44 
  - In the current order of things, never. There's a problem with conflict of interest.  Selatius   Oct-28-07 05:50 PM   #46 
     - The events I describe require no conflict of interest at all.  eallen   Oct-28-07 06:15 PM   #47 
        - No, I was generally speaking to the issue of government regulation of the markets.  Selatius   Oct-29-07 11:41 AM   #152 
  - You're 100% correct  GeneCosta   Oct-28-07 06:49 PM   #51 
  - Welcome!  calimary   Oct-29-07 12:26 AM   #99 
  - But Couldn't The Government Also Be Viewed As A Big Corporation  stirlingsliver   Oct-28-07 04:45 PM   #37 
  - The question isn't big government or small; the question is corruption of government . . ..  defendandprotect   Oct-28-07 11:58 PM   #90 
  - Corporatist is the word. That's what the bushies are.  muntrv   Oct-28-07 05:22 PM   #41 
  - That's pretty much what turned me totally against the repub party  lyonn   Oct-28-07 05:26 PM   #43 
  - Bueno  SpiralHawk   Oct-28-07 06:16 PM   #48 
  - It's beyond the corporate entities.  OxQQme   Oct-28-07 07:24 PM   #52 
  - As more and more people  femrap   Oct-28-07 07:34 PM   #53 
  - When one single Corporation can make a NET PROFIT of OVER one hundred million a DAY  Toots   Oct-28-07 07:57 PM   #56 
  - This is a major issue and why capitalism, itself, must be examined .. ..  defendandprotect   Oct-29-07 12:03 AM   #92 
  - Excellent post!  bushwentawol   Oct-28-07 08:43 PM   #65 
  - I think they recognize that corporate "personhood" wasn't official established, but ....  defendandprotect   Oct-29-07 12:05 AM   #93 
  - I love your point about not moving the center!  AllyCat   Oct-28-07 08:45 PM   #66 
  - But it trickles down...  Baby Snooks   Oct-28-07 09:01 PM   #72 
  - Swamp Rat should make us a picture of a fat rich dude standing on an ornate  AikidoSoul   Oct-28-07 10:19 PM   #81 
  - Just scroll back up...  Baby Snooks   Oct-28-07 11:53 PM   #88 
  - Remember Enron?  dougolat   Oct-29-07 12:02 AM   #91 
  - Yes! And look how far they got in their destruction of California before they were stopped -- !!!!  defendandprotect   Oct-29-07 12:12 AM   #95 
  - Yes! And look how far they got in their destruction of California before they were stopped -- !!!!  defendandprotect   Oct-29-07 12:12 AM   #96 
  - Welcome to DU, to you, also!  calimary   Oct-29-07 02:31 AM   #105 
  - Oops, dupe.  calimary   Oct-29-07 02:31 AM   #106 
  - great post baby snooks - but I go a step further - there is a charade  higher class   Oct-29-07 10:20 AM   #143 
     - The charade  Baby Snooks   Oct-29-07 11:51 AM   #154 
  - As a small business owner, I've been totally screwed  bleever   Oct-28-07 09:22 PM   #74 
  - If it's any consolation...  Baby Snooks   Oct-29-07 12:53 AM   #100 
  - "Venture capitalism." Maybe we should start calling it "VULTURE capitalism."  calimary   Oct-29-07 02:50 AM   #108 
     - And always circling above...  Baby Snooks   Oct-29-07 10:48 AM   #148 
  - Eloquently put, bleever.  calimary   Oct-29-07 02:47 AM   #107 
  - What about socialism applied to religion?....  bjorkfan   Oct-28-07 09:35 PM   #76 
  - "Many people wonder how I could make a shift ,,,  Malidictus Maximus   Oct-28-07 09:52 PM   #77 
  - Good Will Rogers quote there. And Welcome to DU!  calimary   Oct-29-07 02:53 AM   #109 
  - You've hit the nail on the head squarely here. It echoes something I heard RFK Jr say...  ms liberty   Oct-28-07 09:58 PM   #78 
  - Count me in with you. I made my conversion about 4 years ago.  Roland99   Oct-28-07 10:04 PM   #79 
  - Small business people are a natural progressive constituency  Spiffarino   Oct-28-07 10:19 PM   #80 
  - One we haven't taken advantage of nearly enough!  OnionPatch   Oct-29-07 08:23 AM   #125 
     - The function of most big corps is to drown small competitors  Spiffarino   Oct-30-07 10:11 PM   #173 
  - Brilliant and convincing. K&R.  Basileus Basileon   Oct-28-07 11:01 PM   #82 
  - Thanks very much for your comments. Yeah, the problem with privatization is that  codjh9   Oct-28-07 11:12 PM   #83 
  - they're not even pro-corporation. they're pro-corporate DONORS  unblock   Oct-28-07 11:52 PM   #87 
  - It's a fault in they're fundamental logic.  NoGodsNoMasters   Oct-29-07 12:14 AM   #98 
  - We need to move the center out of the right  iburl   Oct-29-07 01:03 AM   #101 
  - I disagree on a couple points  Dewlso   Oct-29-07 01:12 AM   #102 
  - Cool - three more! Welcome, NoGodsNoMasters, iburl, and Dewlso!  calimary   Oct-29-07 02:56 AM   #110 
  - Good post. Ask your friends if the falling value of the US Dollar is Clinton's fault.  Peake   Oct-29-07 01:30 AM   #103 
  - So it's an inherent belief of theirs that Democracy is bad?  Lorien   Oct-29-07 02:02 AM   #104 
  - Don't forget Regan tought them spin.  Froward69   Oct-29-07 03:33 AM   #111 
  - Then eliminate the corporation  TomClash   Oct-29-07 04:42 AM   #112 
  - Strongly agree!  Apollo11   Oct-29-07 05:32 AM   #113 
  - Dem's should be pro-business but make "A seperation of Corporations  harun   Oct-29-07 06:23 AM   #117 
  - Excellent post!  No Surrender   Oct-29-07 06:37 AM   #118 
  - How can anyone trust a corporation?  meowomon   Oct-29-07 07:29 AM   #122 
  - Reframe it - Corporatiism  LiberalEsto   Oct-29-07 07:41 AM   #123 
  - Yacht Sales are UP!  tincanguy   Oct-29-07 07:52 AM   #124 
  - Best, most practical post this year. The key is also stockholders.  higher class   Oct-29-07 08:29 AM   #126 
  - There is an excellent work published on exactly this  Yael   Oct-29-07 10:20 AM   #144 
  - They say a liberal is a conservative who's never been mugged.  Feles Mala   Oct-29-07 08:49 AM   #129 
  - Isn't corporatocracy the same as Fascism? That is what we are headed for here..if no one can stop it  BrklynLib at work   Oct-29-07 09:06 AM   #130 
  - I could have written this as I have walked in your shoes and taken the same journey  Yael   Oct-29-07 09:54 AM   #136 
  - That is fiscal conservative but ...  chemp   Oct-29-07 10:09 AM   #139 
  - Thank you for saying this  Hydra   Oct-29-07 10:12 AM   #141 
  - The Reagan Revolution was built on demonizing the poor & middle class and lionizing big corporations  Oregonian   Oct-29-07 10:26 AM   #145 
  - karmaBanque dot com  maxkeiser   Oct-29-07 10:30 AM   #146 
  - that's a scary thought  DemReadingDU   Oct-29-07 06:47 PM   #171 
  - Good points. Back in the old days (pre-outsourcing),  Vinca   Oct-29-07 11:00 AM   #149 
  - Where I come from "leftist" is generally used as a slur against  kestrel91316   Oct-29-07 11:24 AM   #150 
  - Bravo !  bearfan454   Oct-29-07 11:49 AM   #153 
  - K & R  tom_paine   Oct-29-07 11:52 AM   #155 
  - The Right Wing Does a Bait-and-Switch  ribofunk   Oct-29-07 12:11 PM   #156 
  - trust in corporations? huh?  ryanus   Oct-29-07 01:23 PM   #157 
  - Outstanding post MN Against Bush!  Uncle Joe   Oct-29-07 01:33 PM   #159 
  - K+R. Thank you for such an excellent post! n/t  Artiechoke   Oct-29-07 01:47 PM   #162 
  - Do you mean to say you didn't recognize that the republicon party  FREEWILL56   Oct-29-07 02:18 PM   #166 
  - Excellent!!! Thanks  Doc Martin   Oct-29-07 04:49 PM   #169 
 

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