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Thu Feb-15-07 11:40 AM
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| 57. i have limited time, and long self mastubatory lectures do interest me or spur activism |
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and like it or not, outrage works to motivate people. there is an activists forum and a research forum- two perfectly good places for you to post, it would seem. why aren't they good enough?
why/ how do you want tone and content so heavily policed?
elitist you ask? yes, and unrealistic.
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| -Can we please have a forum with a moritorium on outrage? |
arendt |
Feb-14-07 09:23 PM |
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This is too long to respond to without serious consideration. |
Bonobo |
Feb-14-07 09:32 PM |
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That's a perfectly acceptable response... |
arendt |
Feb-14-07 09:35 PM |
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Everything you list would be made so much easier by public financing of federal campaigns. |
Heaven and Earth |
Feb-14-07 09:33 PM |
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Right. I forgot to put Campaign Finance Reform on the list! |
arendt |
Feb-14-07 09:38 PM |
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Well, the presidential campaign finance system was meant to be public financing |
Heaven and Earth |
Feb-14-07 09:42 PM |
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OK, you mean fix the presidential *campaign finance* system. n/t |
arendt |
Feb-14-07 09:51 PM |
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Oh, if you want to talk about fixing the presidential system in general... |
Heaven and Earth |
Feb-14-07 09:59 PM |
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My list is about defending against immediate threats... |
arendt |
Feb-14-07 10:12 PM |
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I know, its not exactly a likely proposal. |
Heaven and Earth |
Feb-14-07 10:20 PM |
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In K&R I add: What really needs fixing... |
JackRiddler |
Feb-15-07 02:37 PM |
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The "Clear and Present Danger" criterion |
arendt |
Feb-15-07 10:09 PM |
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General Discussion - Politics already exists |
kineta |
Feb-15-07 11:24 PM |
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Yeah that's true |
JackRiddler |
Feb-15-07 11:34 PM |
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What about women's and minority rights? |
Horse with no Name |
Feb-14-07 09:43 PM |
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I'm for those rights. Can you state specific issues we can add to the list? |
arendt |
Feb-14-07 09:48 PM |
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It encompasses several things |
Horse with no Name |
Feb-14-07 09:53 PM |
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My list is about specific things with a short time limit... |
arendt |
Feb-14-07 09:58 PM |
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I have to tell you |
Horse with no Name |
Feb-14-07 10:10 PM |
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Take your time... |
arendt |
Feb-14-07 10:26 PM |
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You certainly have a point |
thethinker |
Feb-14-07 09:44 PM |
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Money out of politics = campaign finance reform. It will be added. n/t |
arendt |
Feb-14-07 09:50 PM |
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You are dead on! We need to be aware of what is distracting us. On the other hand if we |
kikiek |
Feb-14-07 09:56 PM |
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To see what is distracting, look at the list of what we are being distracted from... |
arendt |
Feb-14-07 10:01 PM |
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I agree. Geez gotta tell ya you sound like my mother. She rants about this subject! |
kikiek |
Feb-14-07 10:08 PM |
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Good enough. Is the topic list OK with you? n/t |
arendt |
Feb-14-07 10:14 PM |
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Yes it is well covered. You are right, and we need to get impeachment done now. We cannot go to war |
kikiek |
Feb-15-07 07:44 AM |
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I agree with almost everything you say |
Canuckistanian |
Feb-14-07 10:00 PM |
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But their rules are "heads I win, tails you lose". I won't play that game... |
arendt |
Feb-14-07 10:09 PM |
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I appreciate your intentions and will work with you |
Canuckistanian |
Feb-15-07 09:23 PM |
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Yes! What you said. |
Cerridwen |
Feb-14-07 10:15 PM |
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Thanks for the 2 great examples of contradictory thinking here... |
arendt |
Feb-14-07 10:21 PM |
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"another really old book" which I've actually read. :D |
Cerridwen |
Feb-14-07 10:42 PM |
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C U Later. Thanks. n/t |
arendt |
Feb-14-07 10:45 PM |
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Hope this doesn't sound snarky because it isn't meant to be |
BlackVelvet04 |
Feb-14-07 10:18 PM |
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One of my points was that GD-P is full of "vote for candidate X" threads... |
arendt |
Feb-14-07 10:23 PM |
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Sorry.... |
BlackVelvet04 |
Feb-14-07 10:25 PM |
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Not a problem. Now you get it. n/t |
arendt |
Feb-14-07 10:37 PM |
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Yeah |
sleebarker |
Feb-14-07 10:40 PM |
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Hmm, I had hoped the title would have lured people tired of outrage... |
arendt |
Feb-14-07 10:49 PM |
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Well said |
sgcase |
Feb-14-07 11:02 PM |
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Wrong actually, IMHO |
Marrah_G |
Feb-15-07 10:48 AM |
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I thought the 'Lounge' was for fluff not GD |
jannyk |
Feb-14-07 11:30 PM |
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Yes. Others have said people/mods should go to the Lounge... |
arendt |
Feb-15-07 07:18 AM |
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Several points are well taken |
Patsy Stone |
Feb-14-07 10:26 PM |
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I recognize that I can't change DU; but what about a "serious" forum? |
arendt |
Feb-14-07 10:34 PM |
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For a while |
Patsy Stone |
Feb-14-07 10:59 PM |
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I vaguely remember a discussion about such a forum... |
arendt |
Feb-14-07 11:06 PM |
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K & R for common sense! |
tom_paine |
Feb-15-07 05:59 AM |
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I would be interested in such a forum... though |
salin |
Feb-15-07 06:20 AM |
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How about "Progressive Theory"? |
arendt |
Feb-15-07 07:14 AM |
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How about 'Policy Discussion'? ('and Implementation'?) |
muriel_volestrangler |
Feb-15-07 01:16 PM |
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I really like this suggestion "Policy Discussion" |
salin |
Feb-15-07 06:05 PM |
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You make a good case, but see my post 80 above... |
arendt |
Feb-15-07 10:11 PM |
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I had a nice long post mostly done last night and then my computer froze. |
Jonathan50 |
Feb-15-07 07:10 AM |
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Thanks for finally joining DU, old timer... |
arendt |
Feb-15-07 07:36 AM |
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You might want to check out _Journals of the The Plague Years_ also by Spinrad |
Jonathan50 |
Feb-15-07 08:13 AM |
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Have not had a chance to read this all yet - but a kick for what I have read so far |
The Straight Story |
Feb-15-07 07:23 AM |
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GOT TO GO TO WORK, BACK TONITE. PLEASE KEEP KICKED. THX. n/t |
arendt |
Feb-15-07 07:48 AM |
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Morning kick |
Cerridwen |
Feb-15-07 09:23 AM |
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Another morning kick. |
CrispyQGirl |
Feb-15-07 10:43 AM |
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Thanks and a quick |
Cerridwen |
Feb-15-07 10:54 AM |
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Cerridwen -- thanks for reminding me of this. One of the most important considerations |
AikidoSoul |
Feb-15-07 06:48 PM |
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excellent post |
flying rabbit |
Feb-15-07 10:38 AM |
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Excellent post |
Jcrowley |
Feb-15-07 10:53 AM |
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Killing Your TV is a good start. Teaching kids and ourselves how to think is also essential |
AikidoSoul |
Feb-15-07 07:18 PM |
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That would be nice, but not everyone would be able to shift gears |
atommom |
Feb-15-07 10:59 AM |
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i have limited time, and long self mastubatory lectures do interest me or spur activism |
bettyellen |
Feb-15-07 11:40 AM |
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But that's not what DU is ALL ABOUT! |
donco6 |
Feb-15-07 09:30 PM |
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Outrage is exactly what a gunslinger wants from an honest citizen... |
arendt |
Feb-15-07 10:21 PM |
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Well, tell you what. |
donco6 |
Feb-15-07 10:26 PM |
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What do you do for an encore? Go to the opera and piss on the stage? |
arendt |
Feb-15-07 10:26 PM |
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Hey! Mine was just as big a turd as hers! |
donco6 |
Feb-15-07 10:27 PM |
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Name removed |
Feb-15-07 10:30 PM |
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Here's the deal. |
donco6 |
Feb-15-07 10:44 PM |
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I do not speak for the op'r here, but wasn't it clear that the |
lonestarnot |
Feb-15-07 11:04 PM |
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Not really. |
donco6 |
Feb-15-07 11:07 PM |
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Oh. I see. |
lonestarnot |
Feb-16-07 08:00 AM |
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flat, dull, lifeless yes, this is why the OP doesn't want to use the existing forums |
bettyellen |
Feb-16-07 11:03 AM |
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don't go being all girly and emotional! quick! look at this bright shiny object and you'll be |
bettyellen |
Feb-16-07 04:02 PM |
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I'm all for a Snake Pit forum for the fights and distractions |
Nikki Stone1 |
Feb-15-07 11:44 AM |
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But ANNA'S DEAD!... |
LeftHander |
Feb-15-07 11:48 AM |
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Maybe we need an Unimportant Celebrity of the Day forum? |
Nikki Stone1 |
Feb-15-07 11:50 AM |
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Excellent, content-driven post, |
BluePatriot |
Feb-15-07 12:02 PM |
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Have you read anything by Michael Schudson? |
Strawman |
Feb-15-07 12:05 PM |
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I have JSTOR access, but the article doesn't seem to be in there. |
arendt |
Feb-15-07 10:32 PM |
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Anna Nicole died for our sins |
AngryAmish |
Feb-15-07 02:39 PM |
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Well said. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Feb-15-07 03:29 PM |
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If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention. |
cui bono |
Feb-15-07 05:06 PM |
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I watched you take a beating last week and was appalled |
GoneOffShore |
Feb-15-07 05:33 PM |
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Thanks for the sympathy. It was really only 2 or 3 people who... |
arendt |
Feb-15-07 10:37 PM |
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I would admit that it's not a "Clear & Present Danger" |
GoneOffShore |
Feb-15-07 10:51 PM |
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Just a kick to keep this going |
GoneOffShore |
Feb-15-07 05:52 PM |
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You might consider adding to you list -- getting rid of the revolving door between |
AikidoSoul |
Feb-15-07 06:19 PM |
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Agreed. Harness energy of DU to target specific... |
puebloknot |
Feb-15-07 06:23 PM |
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Continuing thoughts from post 64: Arendt, aren't you asking for two different things? |
JackRiddler |
Feb-15-07 07:57 PM |
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the last question is easily answered: |
salin |
Feb-15-07 08:00 PM |
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A little of both... |
arendt |
Feb-15-07 10:44 PM |
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I partially agree and partially disagree with you |
Time for change |
Feb-15-07 09:34 PM |
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Let me try an analogy. Outrage is like alcohol... |
arendt |
Feb-15-07 10:57 PM |
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Worthy of consideration |
WilliamPitt |
Feb-15-07 10:29 PM |
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Thanks. I learned my lesson from the previous thread. Be positive. n/t |
arendt |
Feb-15-07 11:00 PM |
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What's the chance of getting this pinned to the top of the board? |
GoneOffShore |
Feb-15-07 11:03 PM |
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ttt n/t |
Blue_Tires |
Feb-15-07 10:31 PM |
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Hey my education thread dropped like a rock. And it's too late to |
lonestarnot |
Feb-15-07 10:57 PM |
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Great post-however I feel the environment has been mostly ignored |
nam78_two |
Feb-15-07 11:00 PM |
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You minimize the environmental /poverty content of my list... |
arendt |
Feb-15-07 11:13 PM |
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Ok then! |
nam78_two |
Feb-15-07 11:29 PM |
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Food for thought. I will have to reconsider the trolls I got in my two threads... |
arendt |
Feb-15-07 11:44 PM |
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Great post -- thank you very, very much |
LostinVA |
Feb-16-07 07:57 AM |
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Expand on this and give it an OP. |
siligut |
Feb-16-07 11:03 AM |
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you derided gay concerns over homophobia here by dismissing the snickers threads as bright shiny |
bettyellen |
Feb-16-07 01:39 PM |
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Exactly, bettyellen. |
donco6 |
Feb-16-07 06:01 PM |
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it was a really nice try to distract people from her motives. but not bright or shiny enough |
bettyellen |
Feb-16-07 06:38 PM |
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Kick |
Jonathan50 |
Feb-16-07 10:26 PM |
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