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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 05:52 PM
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25. You haven't been reading actual reports, have you?
What would you have poor people do?

Throw themselves off a cliff, so you won't have to think about them?
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  -Remember cutting gas demand by raising prices provides little supply to the poor/working poor... Blackhatjack  Oct-26-07 03:55 PM   #0 
  - Rationing is only fair if you're able-bodied and have options like walking or biking places  taterguy   Oct-26-07 04:03 PM   #1 
  - So why couldn't people with BONA FIDE health problems get  kestrel91316   Oct-26-07 04:12 PM   #2 
     - So are you saying only folks with handicapped plates should drive now?  taterguy   Oct-26-07 04:18 PM   #3 
        - No, YOU are saying that. I am saying that those with physical  kestrel91316   Oct-26-07 04:22 PM   #4 
           - I wasn't putting words in your mouth, I was asking for CLARIFICATIOn  taterguy   Oct-26-07 04:53 PM   #5 
              - I'm not the one to hash out the details of gas rationing. I'm a VETERINARIAN, lol.  kestrel91316   Oct-26-07 05:21 PM   #6 
              - In WW II production of personal cars virtually ceased and there were no Interstates  taterguy   Oct-28-07 10:59 AM   #29 
              - There already is "...a limit to how much gasoline people can buy." How much $ You Got???  Blackhatjack   Oct-26-07 05:42 PM   #7 
                 - The philosophical question is what constitutes a critical need?  taterguy   Oct-27-07 05:39 AM   #8 
                    - As the OP points out, if you have plenty of $ you can continue to do all these things unaffected...  Blackhatjack   Oct-27-07 08:38 AM   #10 
                       - I just don't understand how a rationing plan could be currently implemented  taterguy   Oct-27-07 10:27 AM   #12 
                       - You could start in a very simple manner like we did in 1973...  Blackhatjack   Oct-27-07 12:13 PM   #16 
                          - Such a system promotes a black market for gasoline  wuushew   Oct-27-07 12:48 PM   #18 
                             - What is to stop people from switching license plates today? It's against the law...  Blackhatjack   Oct-27-07 12:56 PM   #19 
                             - They could do like they do in Texas  Horse with no Name   Oct-29-07 07:58 PM   #48 
                       - I took your advice and pondered things while soaking up natural beauty  taterguy   Oct-27-07 05:44 PM   #23 
  - During a pike in gasoline prices last year ...  flashl   Oct-27-07 08:15 AM   #9 
  - So true... and we had a city council raise the price of bus transit fare rather than raise taxes ...  Blackhatjack   Oct-27-07 08:45 AM   #11 
  - Robert Hirsch agrees  loindelrio   Oct-27-07 11:45 AM   #13 
  - This scenario will play out if 'price' is allow to be the only filter on allocation...  Blackhatjack   Oct-27-07 12:05 PM   #15 
  - Wasn't rationing in 1973 considered a failure?  wuushew   Oct-27-07 11:55 AM   #14 
  - I remember 1973, and it was not a failure.  Blackhatjack   Oct-27-07 12:16 PM   #17 
  - There is no reason to ration a product that has ample supply  RGBolen   Oct-27-07 01:40 PM   #20 
  - kick  wuushew   Oct-27-07 03:54 PM   #21 
  - cheap gas creates bad behaviour  TimBean   Oct-27-07 04:50 PM   #22 
  - You haven't been reading actual reports, have you?  bobbolink   Oct-27-07 05:52 PM   #25 
  - you haven't learned from history  TimBean   Oct-27-07 07:19 PM   #28 
     - I suppose you will be laughing with glee at poor people dying in order to satisfy you.  bobbolink   Oct-28-07 04:03 PM   #30 
        - One day oil production will peak  TimBean   Oct-29-07 07:52 PM   #45 
  - Wrong  Marrah_G   Oct-30-07 01:48 PM   #50 
     - Exactly  TimBean   Oct-30-07 06:23 PM   #63 
  - FINALLY! A "rational" approach! Higher prices do NOTHING to limit useage.  bobbolink   Oct-27-07 05:51 PM   #24 
  - Why not match a federal gas tax with a tax credit for income tax?  wuushew   Oct-27-07 06:01 PM   #26 
  - Has it occured to you that the poorest of the poor don't even PAY income tax?  bobbolink   Oct-28-07 04:04 PM   #31 
     - Um, what about the word CREDIT don't you understand?  wuushew   Oct-29-07 06:22 PM   #42 
        - People on disability and elderly poor DO NOT PAY INCOME TAXES  bobbolink   Oct-30-07 01:34 PM   #49 
           - Yes but they could still apply for a credit  wuushew   Oct-30-07 02:00 PM   #53 
              - I guess you didn't read the rest of what I wrote.  bobbolink   Oct-30-07 02:20 PM   #54 
                 - How can the homeless legally operate automobiles without a valid address?  wuushew   Oct-30-07 04:13 PM   #57 
                    - Riiiight... take homeless peoples' cars away from them, arrest them for being on the street.  bobbolink   Oct-30-07 05:16 PM   #60 
                       - You have offered zero solutions  wuushew   Oct-30-07 05:28 PM   #61 
                          - Oh, for gawd's sake!  bobbolink   Oct-30-07 06:04 PM   #62 
  - yep. if it suddenly costs $200 a month to commute, and it used to cost  SoCalDem   Oct-28-07 04:24 PM   #34 
  - We don't lose our jobs as much as we just cut out other things  Marrah_G   Oct-30-07 01:53 PM   #51 
  - I'd prefer an initial cap and trade system followed later by a carbon tax.  seasat   Oct-27-07 06:44 PM   #27 
  - I still say they should modify the pumps  SoCalDem   Oct-28-07 04:17 PM   #32 
  - Drive a Honda ... Pay $7.50  Echos Myron   Oct-28-07 04:22 PM   #33 
  - OUR Honda was built in the US.. are they bringing Japanese people here  SoCalDem   Oct-28-07 04:27 PM   #35 
  - You're waaaay behind the times.  bobbolink   Oct-28-07 04:30 PM   #37 
  - And, be poor and drive an old beater because it's all you can get,  bobbolink   Oct-28-07 04:29 PM   #36 
  - At least the poor old beater does not come with a car payment  SoCalDem   Oct-28-07 04:31 PM   #38 
     - No, but all poor people can afford now is often an old BIG car.  bobbolink   Oct-28-07 04:36 PM   #39 
  - Let's base it on what you make, not on what you drive...  FredMertz   Oct-30-07 02:29 PM   #55 
  - Kick because I think this is an interesting thread  taterguy   Oct-29-07 05:00 PM   #40 
  - well  GTRMAN   Oct-29-07 05:26 PM   #41 
  - Why don't posters understand that transportation is required for most jobs ....  Blackhatjack   Oct-29-07 06:48 PM   #43 
  - Amen, brother!  FredMertz   Oct-30-07 02:33 PM   #56 
  - delete  Xap   Oct-29-07 07:15 PM   #44 
  - You are correct.  Horse with no Name   Oct-29-07 07:54 PM   #46 
  - And watch the lines grow and black market flourish.  tritsofme   Oct-29-07 07:57 PM   #47 
  - Cut the WASTE and we got pleny gas for the farmers, the FFighters/cops/ EMTs, etc  opihimoimoi   Oct-30-07 01:59 PM   #52 
     - What's your definition of waste?  taterguy   Oct-30-07 04:49 PM   #58 
        - well for a start....  wuushew   Oct-30-07 04:54 PM   #59 
           - Thats a start...when the hard times come...all nonessential crap will be minimized  opihimoimoi   Oct-30-07 07:02 PM   #64 
           - Personally I'm more concerned about work-related waste  taterguy   Nov-01-07 04:26 PM   #65 
 

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