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Fri Feb-16-07 12:58 PM
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| 36. The door DOES appear to have been kicked in! |
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http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/palmbeach/sfl-ps... 3rd paragraph from the bottom "Pictures of the door released by the Sheriff's Office show it was dented in several areas, that the doorframe gave way, splintering the door trim and dislodging the strike plate." Sounds like kicked in to me.
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| -Teen shot under 'home as castle' law |
Herman Munster |
Feb-14-07 06:42 PM |
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Just what should the man have done |
dsc |
Feb-14-07 06:44 PM |
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You are correct about that |
Jacobin |
Feb-14-07 06:45 PM |
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I would agree from what was presented in the article |
rinsd |
Feb-14-07 06:50 PM |
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A few years ago in delray, some jerk did that. |
Edweird |
Feb-14-07 06:58 PM |
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Agreed. People should have the right to protect themselves |
Katherine Brengle |
Feb-16-07 01:38 PM |
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Maybe all his friends will also learn an object lesson here, and |
kestrel91316 |
Feb-16-07 02:52 PM |
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Absolutely. |
Katherine Brengle |
Feb-16-07 03:14 PM |
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A 6' 215 lber breaking into one's house sounds like a reasonable fear of imminent peril |
LeftyMom |
Feb-14-07 06:45 PM |
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He didn't just "break in" he kicked the door in. I'da shot him, too. |
Edweird |
Feb-14-07 06:47 PM |
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Ricardo needs a bigger gun. |
karlrschneider |
Feb-14-07 06:49 PM |
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teehee |
rinsd |
Feb-14-07 06:52 PM |
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Hell, I would have shot him under those conditions. Breaking... |
Poll_Blind |
Feb-14-07 06:50 PM |
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Sounds perfectly justified to me. |
dicksteele |
Feb-14-07 07:08 PM |
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That's a textbook case of self-defense... |
benEzra |
Feb-15-07 06:46 PM |
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That kid just learned a lesson most of us never need to be taught: |
piedmont |
Feb-15-07 07:04 PM |
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If this kid broke into my house |
distantearlywarning |
Feb-15-07 07:51 PM |
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Broke into my house like this, he'd be dead. |
Zynx |
Feb-16-07 03:02 PM |
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Violent criminal gets shot invading home? good shoot. |
aikoaiko |
Feb-15-07 08:08 PM |
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Here in Colorado, they want to expand this to . . . |
donco6 |
Feb-15-07 09:03 PM |
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You mean like in California? |
slackmaster |
Feb-16-07 02:28 PM |
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Here in LA I always heard you better be damned sure the guy is armed, |
kestrel91316 |
Feb-16-07 02:54 PM |
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Hence the popularity of inexpensive switchblades and handguns |
slackmaster |
Feb-16-07 02:57 PM |
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you know that is not true, and yet you keep saying it |
iverglas |
Feb-16-07 03:07 PM |
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'Roid Rage n/t |
gbrooks |
Feb-15-07 09:20 PM |
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That's the same here in Mississippi. If you're attacking my home or family, the law here says... |
Selatius |
Feb-15-07 09:25 PM |
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Same with California if entry was forceful and unauthorized |
slackmaster |
Feb-16-07 02:40 PM |
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yes, it's days like this when I am happy to love DU |
iverglas |
Feb-15-07 09:26 PM |
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Every minor dispute? |
scrinmaster |
Feb-16-07 11:32 AM |
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facts are fun |
iverglas |
Feb-16-07 12:37 PM |
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We are all prone to reacting immediately. |
redqueen |
Feb-16-07 12:45 PM |
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You’re welcome to use your verbal skills |
Mugu |
Feb-16-07 12:32 PM |
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What exactly would YOU have done? |
Edweird |
Feb-16-07 12:34 PM |
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Hmm. Maybe find out the facts before opening my mouth. |
iverglas |
Feb-16-07 12:39 PM |
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I'm pretty confident about the facts! |
Edweird |
Feb-16-07 12:45 PM |
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Because anyone who believes in self defense and gun rights is a right wing nutjob. |
mainegreen |
Feb-16-07 12:36 PM |
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okey dokey |
iverglas |
Feb-16-07 12:40 PM |
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If the door was kicked in, the law applies. |
piedmont |
Feb-16-07 01:24 PM |
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Bingo, I'd say |
iverglas |
Feb-16-07 01:36 PM |
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... |
piedmont |
Feb-16-07 01:48 PM |
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So, do you actually believe the shooter was WRONG and the |
kestrel91316 |
Feb-16-07 03:02 PM |
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I don't actually believe ANYTHING |
iverglas |
Feb-16-07 03:12 PM |
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self deleted |
MilesColtrane |
Feb-16-07 03:28 PM |
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I wonder if that covers 9 year olds |
gorbal |
Feb-15-07 09:39 PM |
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Yeah, but you weren't a 215 lb wrestler, kicking peoples |
scrinmaster |
Feb-16-07 11:28 AM |
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There doesn't appear to have been any kicking in of doors. n/t |
redqueen |
Feb-16-07 12:46 PM |
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True |
gorbal |
Feb-16-07 01:19 PM |
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the rules would have applied to you, for sure |
iverglas |
Feb-16-07 01:45 PM |
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The door doesn't appear to have been kicked in... |
redqueen |
Feb-16-07 12:48 PM |
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How do you figure that? |
Edweird |
Feb-16-07 12:50 PM |
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Hmmmmm... interesting... |
redqueen |
Feb-16-07 12:57 PM |
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Even your article supports kicked in door |
Edweird |
Feb-16-07 01:05 PM |
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Read the next paragraph after that... |
redqueen |
Feb-16-07 01:07 PM |
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It's reasonable to believe that if police photos were taken, they were taken shortly.. |
MilesColtrane |
Feb-16-07 03:45 PM |
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Perhaps... |
redqueen |
Feb-16-07 04:04 PM |
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the Sun Sentinal gets my vote |
iverglas |
Feb-16-07 12:58 PM |
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It's weird... the article reporting there was no damage |
redqueen |
Feb-16-07 01:09 PM |
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the article claiming no damage is pretty vague about where that claim |
fishwax |
Feb-16-07 02:06 PM |
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Yup... there's just too much information missing... |
redqueen |
Feb-16-07 02:22 PM |
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what on earth is so difficult about this |
iverglas |
Feb-16-07 02:31 PM |
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Again, the earlier report has no agent, nor the circumstances of inspection |
fishwax |
Feb-16-07 02:58 PM |
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We're going to have to trust police and prosecutors to be better observers of fact |
slackmaster |
Feb-16-07 02:38 PM |
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I see the reporter as having a vested interest in making it as "controversial" as possible. |
Edweird |
Feb-16-07 02:54 PM |
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Why would you be disgusted with the shooting when you |
aikoaiko |
Feb-16-07 01:14 PM |
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Because violence is disgusting? |
redqueen |
Feb-16-07 01:17 PM |
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I don't find people defending themselves to be disgusting acts. |
aikoaiko |
Feb-16-07 01:23 PM |
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No, it is necessary... |
redqueen |
Feb-16-07 01:45 PM |
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I would be greatly distressed about taking another’s life, |
Mugu |
Feb-16-07 02:42 PM |
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So this "kid" thinks he has the right to defend his girlfriend |
Cerridwen |
Feb-16-07 12:52 PM |
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The door DOES appear to have been kicked in! |
Edweird |
Feb-16-07 12:58 PM |
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I think we heard you the first time |
iverglas |
Feb-16-07 01:05 PM |
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Where is this conflicting news report? |
Edweird |
Feb-16-07 01:06 PM |
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You already have it... read the whole thing. n/t |
redqueen |
Feb-16-07 01:08 PM |
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I did. It shows the kid kicked the door in. That's why he is in JAIL. |
Edweird |
Feb-16-07 01:14 PM |
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It doesn't show that, it says it. |
redqueen |
Feb-16-07 01:16 PM |
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According to who? The reporter? The homeowner let the reporter in to look? |
Edweird |
Feb-16-07 01:18 PM |
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for pity's sake |
iverglas |
Feb-16-07 01:29 PM |
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Exactly. The door was kicked IN not OUT. The damage will be on the inside. |
Edweird |
Feb-16-07 01:47 PM |
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lord bleeding jezus |
iverglas |
Feb-16-07 02:02 PM |
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Thanks for the reference... |
redqueen |
Feb-16-07 02:25 PM |
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just disgusted old biddies, us |
iverglas |
Feb-16-07 02:36 PM |
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Exactly... |
redqueen |
Feb-16-07 02:40 PM |
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I agree, the incident in Boca was wrong. |
Edweird |
Feb-16-07 02:36 PM |
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"admitting"?? |
iverglas |
Feb-16-07 02:50 PM |
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Where do you get that the police report "quotes the homeowner" |
Edweird |
Feb-16-07 02:59 PM |
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where are you getting that I SAID |
iverglas |
Feb-16-07 03:23 PM |
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sorry, bad post. too much caffeine. |
Edweird |
Feb-16-07 03:24 PM |
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Ah, do I see? ........ |
Edweird |
Feb-16-07 03:23 PM |
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Well, you know something? |
iverglas |
Feb-16-07 03:44 PM |
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Truce. |
Edweird |
Feb-16-07 03:56 PM |
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Interesting point about being invested... |
redqueen |
Feb-16-07 04:39 PM |
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hey, you and I have been at this for 2 hours.... I call a truce |
Edweird |
Feb-16-07 03:30 PM |
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not in Florida you won't! |
iverglas |
Feb-16-07 03:47 PM |
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I'm sorry about your father. |
Edweird |
Feb-16-07 03:54 PM |
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Heh... |
redqueen |
Feb-16-07 01:44 PM |
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hey, I'm no fan of the police. Just being able to defend myself. |
Edweird |
Feb-16-07 01:50 PM |
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... and I completely understand that. |
redqueen |
Feb-16-07 02:08 PM |
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Well, a compromised front door is something you'd want to repair-- FAST |
piedmont |
Feb-16-07 03:46 PM |
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True... |
redqueen |
Feb-16-07 04:12 PM |
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Yeah, so far it's all a bunch of speculation. |
piedmont |
Feb-16-07 04:24 PM |
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This is a clear self-defense shooting. |
meldroc |
Feb-16-07 01:11 PM |
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why anybody would choose to live in florida is beyond me... |
QuestionAll |
Feb-16-07 01:26 PM |
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Warm weather.Girls in bikinis most of the year. No state income tax. |
Edweird |
Feb-16-07 01:37 PM |
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"warm" weather...? |
QuestionAll |
Feb-16-07 01:49 PM |
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I moved here nearly 20 years ago. |
Edweird |
Feb-16-07 01:52 PM |
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for truly gorgeous weather and women in bikinis- but with more progressive attitudes- |
QuestionAll |
Feb-16-07 01:57 PM |
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well, I drove here with a buddy of mine. Kinda settled here by accident. |
Edweird |
Feb-16-07 02:19 PM |
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Why anyone would forcefully break into someone's home is beyond me |
slackmaster |
Feb-16-07 02:30 PM |
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yup. |
QuestionAll |
Feb-16-07 02:50 PM |
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Okay |
Little Wing |
Feb-16-07 01:29 PM |
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They're using this case to justify the new law, but it'd be permissible under the OLD law. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Feb-16-07 01:43 PM |
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Did you see this? |
redqueen |
Feb-16-07 01:46 PM |
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You're right, what's the "castle law" needed for if it's self defense? |
treestar |
Feb-16-07 01:49 PM |
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The "new" laws, like most laws, are being passed for mostly political reasons |
slackmaster |
Feb-16-07 02:31 PM |
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well hey |
iverglas |
Feb-16-07 02:52 PM |
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From the information provided, that would have been a "good shoot" in California |
slackmaster |
Feb-16-07 02:25 PM |
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I'm more concerned about a young man who thinks that's appropriate... |
Hobarticus |
Feb-16-07 03:07 PM |
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Good point about anger management |
slackmaster |
Feb-16-07 04:01 PM |
#113 |
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