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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 01:25 PM
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57. my aunt's still trying to get a loan to rebuild on one of her properties in NOLA
She's the one who was missing for days after the storm hit, because she wouldn't leave while my uncle was still in the hospital.

Right now, she's living in one of our family's properties, but she really wants to go back to New Orleans. At first she didn't, but now she does. I imagine a lot people feel the same way.

And mind you, she didn't live in the 9th Ward. And she has property and savings. Think how hard it is for the poor, black 9th-Warders to put their lives back together under these circumstances.


And moving those "poor black people" out, and rebuilding NOLA without them, will give white southerners another opportunity to blame all their problems on black people. "Look how safe and beautiful it is since Katrina".

Yeah, early on, that was the dream. But the irony is that with FEWER blacks around, New Orleans' murder rate promptly skyrocketed, and everyone is now terrified of the place. Disneyfication looks to be a long way off.
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  -The real difference between NOLA and San Diego Elspeth  Oct-25-07 11:36 AM   #0 
  - You're damn right. The Feds never intended to allow the poor  acmavm   Oct-25-07 11:38 AM   #1 
  - Yes. It's the difference between a real rescue effort and a Federal crime  Elspeth   Oct-25-07 11:40 AM   #5 
  - Potrero and Ramona are full of non rich and brown people  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-25-07 01:01 PM   #46 
     - What in the world are you talking about??? I was talking about the  acmavm   Oct-25-07 03:44 PM   #64 
        - And Nadin is talking about the working class brown people in Jamul and other areas  Elspeth   Oct-26-07 12:34 PM   #84 
  - thats the only difference ?  iamthebandfanman   Oct-25-07 11:39 AM   #2 
  - No, and I didn't claim it was. It's a basic real difference which sets off a chain of differences  Elspeth   Oct-25-07 11:44 AM   #6 
  - Excellent point about the media...and their focus.  BrklynLib at work   Oct-25-07 11:51 AM   #13 
  - That is also where they are being allowed in  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-25-07 01:03 PM   #48 
  - The media also ignored the rich from New Orleans--many Mercedes went underwater in Lakeview  rudy23   Oct-25-07 05:38 PM   #66 
     - Right.  NOLALady   Oct-26-07 08:16 AM   #81 
  - That is what the media is choosing to show you  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-25-07 01:02 PM   #47 
     - Yes, this is 100% true. LOCAL news is covering Ramona and Jamul but CNNFOXMSNBC is only showing  Elspeth   Oct-26-07 12:37 PM   #85 
  - Until the levees wrere fixed, I dunno if I'd go back to NOLA  fishnfla   Oct-25-07 11:39 AM   #3 
  - Exactly  Taverner   Oct-25-07 11:39 AM   #4 
  - Not really..  webmatters   Oct-25-07 11:44 AM   #7 
  - FEMA hasn't learned any lessons  Elspeth   Oct-25-07 11:48 AM   #9 
  - I'm sure it is  webmatters   Oct-25-07 12:57 PM   #44 
  - The lessons here were from the CEDAR fire not  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-25-07 01:04 PM   #50 
  - It got old Bobby boy elected in Lousiana didn't it.  Bitwit1234   Oct-25-07 11:46 AM   #8 
  - Exactly. n/t  sfexpat2000   Oct-25-07 11:49 AM   #10 
  - that's why blackwater is in there  lame54   Oct-25-07 11:49 AM   #11 
  - I totally agree with you. It was a premeditated relocation of a particular population.  BrklynLib at work   Oct-25-07 11:50 AM   #12 
  - I don't see how that kind of plan would make any sense to anyone  slackmaster   Oct-25-07 11:53 AM   #16 
     - "Refugees" implies people who were DRIVEN out. "Evacuees" implies people who left on their own.  Idealist Hippie   Oct-25-07 12:08 PM   #25 
     - The difference between a refugee and an evacuee is simpler than that  slackmaster   Oct-25-07 12:14 PM   #27 
     - Refugee is NOT being used in San Diego for those who houses have burned/are uninhabitable  Elspeth   Oct-26-07 06:01 AM   #74 
     - it's not as if no one was warning them...  BrklynLib at work   Oct-25-07 12:59 PM   #45 
     - Hurricane Protection Budget Cuts Exact a Big Price - Here was the plan  BrklynLib at work   Oct-25-07 12:53 PM   #41 
     - Plans were offered includimg those by the International Red Cross  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-25-07 01:06 PM   #51 
  - You're overlooking some obvious differences in the situation  slackmaster   Oct-25-07 11:51 AM   #14 
  - there is another very significant difference- the people in NOLA who tried  Bluerthanblue   Oct-25-07 12:40 PM   #35 
  - I have covered these differences extensively in other threads. No one bothered to read them  Elspeth   Oct-26-07 06:02 AM   #75 
  - I agree that there was a deliberate effort to move poor blacks  DemBones DemBones   Oct-25-07 11:52 AM   #15 
  - WHY would someone want to do that?  slackmaster   Oct-25-07 11:54 AM   #17 
     - Gentrification. nt  DemBones DemBones   Oct-25-07 11:59 AM   #18 
     - Let me know when that starts happening  slackmaster   Oct-25-07 12:00 PM   #19 
        - has the govt given the NOLA homeowners  Bluerthanblue   Oct-25-07 12:44 PM   #37 
        - The poor were separated into different small groups which were sent to different states  Elspeth   Oct-26-07 04:21 AM   #70 
     - Democratic Governors...elected by Dem-voting Black NOLA voters.  WilliamPitt   Oct-25-07 12:03 PM   #22 
        - Sure, but all those displaced poor Dem-voting black people had to go somewhere  slackmaster   Oct-25-07 12:05 PM   #23 
           - A voting bloc in one city = power  WilliamPitt   Oct-25-07 12:13 PM   #26 
           - Texas does have one of the strictest residency requirements for voter registration  slackmaster   Oct-25-07 12:16 PM   #29 
              - TX, MS, AL, GA, MA, NY, OK, etc.  WilliamPitt   Oct-25-07 12:22 PM   #30 
                 - The displaced NOLA folks eventually have to shit or get off the pot  slackmaster   Oct-25-07 12:36 PM   #34 
                    - Oh Jesus...  WilliamPitt   Oct-25-07 12:42 PM   #36 
                    - word eom  Bluerthanblue   Oct-25-07 01:12 PM   #55 
                    - .  NorthernSpy   Oct-25-07 01:06 PM   #52 
           - *sigh*  sandnsea   Oct-25-07 12:46 PM   #38 
           - my aunt's still trying to get a loan to rebuild on one of her properties in NOLA  NorthernSpy   Oct-25-07 01:25 PM   #57 
              - I think they'll wait  sandnsea   Oct-25-07 01:36 PM   #60 
           - the perps gained something you are  Bluerthanblue   Oct-25-07 12:54 PM   #42 
  - I couldn't agree more! It was their "Clean up NOLA" plan. I think they plan  in_cog_ni_to   Oct-25-07 12:01 PM   #20 
  - One group expects government to work for them  sandnsea   Oct-25-07 12:03 PM   #21 
  - No. Many of them had no way to leave. If you have no car and no $$$$$$, what are you suppose to do?  in_cog_ni_to   Oct-25-07 12:07 PM   #24 
  - After that  sandnsea   Oct-25-07 12:30 PM   #32 
  - You're kidding, right? The last time I heard this was from Republicans. nt  DemBones DemBones   Oct-25-07 12:23 PM   #31 
  - Really? Republicans say government is supposed to work for people?  sandnsea   Oct-25-07 12:31 PM   #33 
  - are you serious? do you really believe this?  Bluerthanblue   Oct-25-07 12:56 PM   #43 
     - You don't see the correlation?  sandnsea   Oct-25-07 01:04 PM   #49 
        - you are saying that it is a self fulfilling prophesy?  Bluerthanblue   Oct-25-07 01:10 PM   #53 
           - I don't think you're confused at all  sandnsea   Oct-25-07 01:39 PM   #61 
              - in MY 'culture'-  Bluerthanblue   Oct-25-07 07:45 PM   #69 
  - Louisiana is one of those 'Purple States'  LynneSin   Oct-25-07 12:15 PM   #28 
  - I don't know.  NOLALady   Oct-26-07 07:55 AM   #80 
  - And Americans actually care about people in California as opposed to Louisiana  RGBolen   Oct-25-07 12:47 PM   #39 
  - I care about both- and  Bluerthanblue   Oct-25-07 01:15 PM   #56 
  - WRONG, the people care, even some folks in the Federal  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-25-07 03:46 PM   #65 
  - Katrina affected a much larger geographical area too.  tabasco   Oct-25-07 12:50 PM   #40 
  - The geographical area was huge here, but the difference is  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-25-07 01:10 PM   #54 
     - Nadin, we really need to keep people updated on the royal screwing the insurance industry will give  Elspeth   Oct-26-07 12:39 PM   #86 
  - There was one road out of New Orleans that was passable after Katrina.  GumboYaYa   Oct-25-07 01:29 PM   #58 
  - I'll never forget that blockade as long as I live.  sfexpat2000   Oct-25-07 01:32 PM   #59 
  - Thanks for the greeting.  GumboYaYa   Oct-25-07 02:33 PM   #63 
  - The citizens were also blocked at gunpoint  NOLALady   Oct-26-07 07:51 AM   #79 
  - There must be millions of Americans who know full well the  ladjf   Oct-25-07 01:51 PM   #62 
  - THIS IS THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX  YEBBA   Oct-25-07 06:34 PM   #67 
  - Nail meet head  Anita Garcia   Oct-25-07 07:32 PM   #68 
  - Flood Vs. Fire...  KharmaTrain   Oct-26-07 05:31 AM   #71 
  - No need for tin foil hat  Elspeth   Oct-26-07 05:56 AM   #72 
     - Re-post: Fire Vs Flood  Elspeth   Oct-26-07 05:57 AM   #73 
     - You are absolutely correct.  NOLALady   Oct-26-07 07:45 AM   #78 
        - Thank you. Had the hurricane happened as it did and the levees not broken  Elspeth   Oct-26-07 12:32 PM   #82 
     - Different Disasters  KharmaTrain   Oct-26-07 06:19 AM   #77 
  - Some valid points but  malaise   Oct-26-07 06:14 AM   #76 
  - See my repost above on Fire Vs Floods  Elspeth   Oct-26-07 12:33 PM   #83 
  - The REAL reason behind the REAL difference is simple: poverty  bobbolink   Oct-26-07 12:42 PM   #87 
 

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